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In this edition of The Democratic Newsroom, editors Raj Chengappa, Rajdeep Sardesai, Gaurav Sawant, Moushumi Singh, and Preeti Choudhry discuss the complete washout of the monsoon parliamentary session.
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00:00Hello and welcome to yet another edition of the Democratic Newsroom.
00:04We are back with a band of editors and what's up for discussion?
00:07Well, we've had a washout of a monsoon session once again.
00:11Absolutely no work done. Every minute spent two and a half lakhs of the taxpayers' money down the drain.
00:19So who helped Parliament to ransom? Was it the Treasury benches? Was it the opposition?
00:23Let's open the floor out. We have with us Raj Chengappa.
00:27We have Rajdeep Sardisai, Gaurav Savant and we'll begin with Moshmi
00:31because she's the one who's covered every day of the Parliament of the monsoon session.
00:36So Moshmi, give us the inside dope. What really happened?
00:39It was really hectic this time round, Preeti.
00:41Without any work?
00:43When there's no work in the Parliament, there's lots of work for journalists.
00:46You know, covering all the dharnas and, you know, protests versus protests.
00:50But I'll tell you that when the Parliament session started,
00:54the first week went, 20th July is the lati charge happened.
01:00The first week went for demanding the resignation of the Education Minister.
01:04The second week, and that happened by Saturday.
01:07Second week went demanding an answer from Amit Shah.
01:11That was the template to a set when Rahul Gandhi wrote a letter to Amit Shah on Sunday.
01:16Second week gone on that.
01:17Then the opposition built more momentum because they thought that pellet guns and all those reports had doled out.
01:24Third week also went, you know, now demanding answer from Amit Shah and his resignation.
01:31And the fourth week was targeted at the Prime Minister.
01:34That asking for an apology from the Prime Minister plus an answer from Amit Shah.
01:39So basically, on both sides, as soon as the counters, and this time the attack came from the opposition,
01:46unlike the previous sessions.
01:47Did the opposition keep changing goalposts?
01:49Because first they began, Moshmin, right in the beginning to say that we want discussion on Neet and Paper League.
01:54The minute the government said, okay, they said, no, we want now resignation of Dharmendra Pradhan.
01:58The minute the resignation came and then the opposition says, no,
02:01we want the Home Minister to give a statement in the House on the use of excessive force.
02:05Home Minister agreed, then they said, no, we want now a discussion on Chandajori.
02:09So did the opposition also shift goalposts?
02:12Well, on Dharmendra Pradhan, they didn't.
02:14Because they were running a campaign, Dharmendra Pradhan, Istifa, though, even before the session started.
02:19And they changed goalposts with Amit Shah.
02:22Because first they asked for a statement from Amit Shah and then they went on to ask for his resignation.
02:27And then all of a sudden they cropped up this thing about the Prime Minister should apologize.
02:32To the extent that in the press conference,
02:35Kharki Ji was saying Prime Minister should apologize for Ram Mandir.
02:39And Rahul Gandhi was saying that Prime Minister should apologize for the Lati charge.
02:43So there was a mixed bag, but the opposition found its momentum for a change.
02:48And the attacks came from the opposition that they thought really put the government on the back foot.
02:54Otherwise, why would you?
02:54What would explain Priti that Amit Shah came from day one to the last day?
03:00He sang the national anthem on the first day and sang the national song on the last day of the
03:06Lok Sabha.
03:06That was the only two times he came to the Lok Sabha.
03:09Otherwise, he was right there in his office.
03:11So he would come to the parliament, but he won't come to the house.
03:1320 meters away.
03:14Okay.
03:15So he will come to the parliament, but will not come to the house.
03:18Right?
03:18To his office, 20 steps you take.
03:20So he will come to the sunset, but not come to the southern.
03:23Okay.
03:23I want to bring in Rajdeep Sathya Sai.
03:25I must say, both our colleagues are looking lovely.
03:28We're sitting this side of the divide.
03:29Moshmi, beautiful in her pink salwar kameez.
03:31And Rajdeep, sir, is already celebrating his, what, Independence Day outfit, Rajdeep?
03:36Independence Day week.
03:37This is Independence Day week.
03:38So I wanted to be extra colorful.
03:40Add some color to the democratic newsroom.
03:44Look, you know, Moshmi has explained what's happened.
03:47But I think you've got to look at the larger context.
03:49Because this is not just in this session.
03:52It's been happening for a while now.
03:53I think this country at the moment, when it comes to parliament, is stuck.
03:56I'm sorry to use these adjectives.
03:58Between an arrogant government and an obstructionist opposition.
04:02Between a government that refuses to listen and an opposition that really doesn't want to engage.
04:07And as a result, what you've got is a parliamentary system that's broken down.
04:11Because there is lack of respect.
04:13And there is a complete absence of trust.
04:16So the two sides won't trust each other.
04:18They don't even have basic respect for each other.
04:21Look at the fact that a few days ago, you had something that I haven't seen in parliament precincts.
04:26The marshals had to be brought out to separate placard and slogan shouting opposition and government MPs.
04:34I mean, there was a time when the opposition would shout many years ago.
04:37The government treasury benches would.
04:38Now both sides shout at each other.
04:40And at each other.
04:41And it was unprecedented.
04:42Imagine marshals being brought in to separate the two of them.
04:45It's unprecedented.
04:46And it's a low.
04:47So therefore, while we are in Independence Day week, let me just say this.
04:50And I think this should be a bit of a reality check for all MPs.
04:54You know, can I go back to Jawala Nehru since it's Independence Day week?
04:58The fact is, we often forget, whatever, you know, there are lots of criticism of Jawala Nehru now.
05:05It's open season.
05:06One thing that that man was, he would spend a lot of time inside the southern, inside parliament, regularly, ask
05:13any old timer, would sit through question hour.
05:16And the opposition would also give him the due respect.
05:21That's missing.
05:22Imagine there was a time when Jawala Nehru actively encouraged a young Atal Bihari Vajpayee, then in the opposition, to
05:30get up and speak.
05:31Because he wanted to hear him.
05:34Now, you don't have that.
05:36So therefore, you know, who is holding whom to ransom?
05:38Beyond that, there is a systemic problem.
05:40And we should be very worried as a country.
05:42If our MPs are going to be seen to be fighting, virtually coming, what do you say?
05:48Come to the room.
05:50I'm sure you were there at the moment.
05:52And I was shocked to see that.
05:54And I wish that we could go back to the days when there was a central hall, where people could
05:58sit in a room, talk to each other, have a conversation.
06:01Even that's gone.
06:02There's no central hall.
06:03I think we have completely damaged the institution of parliament systematically over a period of time.
06:11When the UPA was in power, you will recall the BJP then in the opposition would prevent an entire session.
06:17Entire sessions have been blocked.
06:18And Arun Jaitli, among others, said, disruption and obstruction is part of democracy.
06:23Now, that's been taken to a new level by this opposition.
06:26And the government, for its part, is, dare I say, working on a Gujarat model where I don't care about
06:31what the opposition has to say.
06:32I'm not listening to them.
06:33So one side won't engage, one side won't engage.
06:36And it's a very, very sad situation.
06:37So, you know, this is the only, that's why in this very dark moment, I thought I should wear a
06:43colorful shirt.
06:43Very colorful, Rajdeep.
06:45But, okay, you're talking about shouting and all of that.
06:47But even in the Democratic newsroom, we are going to save somebody who's always very measured for the last and
06:52that's Raj Chingappa.
06:53I want to bring in Gaurav Samanth right after Rajdeep Sardisai.
06:56Gaurav, who do you think is holding parliament to ransom?
06:59You know, I'm equally sad, Makar Dwar should actually be renamed National School of Drama, the kind of Nautanki we
07:06saw at Makar Dwar.
07:08You know, we've elected lawmakers to make laws not to do Nautanki.
07:12And unfortunately, with a very heavy heart, I say, that's all that we've been seeing.
07:16Yes, disruption is a part in democracy.
07:20You know, Rajdeep quoted Jawaharlal Nehru.
07:24I want to quote Manmohan Singh.
07:25No, I quoted Arun Jaitli on disruption.
07:27Yes.
07:28And, you know, you said when debates are happening, let me quote…
07:30No, I quoted Jawaharlal Nehru in the context of Jawaharlal Nehru and Vajpayee.
07:34So, let me quote to you what Dr. Manmohan Singh and P. Chidambaram said when Arun Jaitli and Sushma Swaraj
07:41were holding parliament to ransom.
07:43Perhaps maybe Rahul Gandhi would like to listen to some of his, you know, own party leaders where 7th of
07:49September 2012, Manmohan Singh says,
07:52disruption of parliament is a grave violation of parliamentary norms.
07:55In 2012, he said, every day that passes without a parliament meeting, this was Chidambaram who says, it's a black
08:02spot for democracy.
08:03So, black spot for democracy when they are in power, but, you know, legitimate protest when they are out of
08:10power, it is just, you know, they're just changing, they're doing exactly the same thing.
08:13And while they're fighting for cameras and while they're fighting in parliament, in somebody's shadi or some party, everyone's also
08:19meeting and greeting each other.
08:21It's all drama that is actually happening, very unfortunately.
08:25And Rajdeep says the government is arrogant and the opposition is obstructionist.
08:31Well, the government in parliament and Kiran Rijiju has repeatedly said that we are, let's debate, let's listen to you,
08:39the home minister will respond.
08:40Whatever point you want to raise, raise it in parliament, the home minister will respond.
08:45Should it happen the way, you know, Rahul Gandhi wants or should it happen, let him raise all his questions.
08:51Let Amit Shah say whatever he wants to say and then let the people of this country decide who's right,
08:55who's wrong.
08:56But then that is unfortunately not happening.
08:59All right. Raj Chingappa, you've seen many seasons of parliament, many sessions.
09:05How do you rate with what is happening right now?
09:07Because now it's, I think, session by session, we are seeing a complete fall in terms of the trust deficit
09:13is at its lowest right now between the treasury benches and the opposition.
09:17Now, whatever's happening, happened or happening is modifying.
09:21There's no doubt about that.
09:22But I wouldn't go back in history or try to compare things.
09:25I think we witnessed on July 20th and this whole period that was there an agitation that should have shaken
09:31all of us, including parliament and all parliamentarians,
09:35because you were seeing an uprising that was most unusual and then produced results of a kind that we hadn't
09:41expected.
09:42And then when you see what happens in parliament, which is the highest in the supreme legislative body in this
09:50country,
09:50where the most important issues have to be discussed, barring the public examination bill, which was very, very interesting to
09:57listen to.
09:58I think there was something like 47 speakers.
10:00I was disappointed that the prime minister didn't speak or the whole minister didn't speak.
10:04If I'm right, correct me if I'm, I didn't hear them.
10:06They both didn't speak.
10:07They both didn't speak.
10:07On an important bill where the prime minister, the previous evenings or whatever, had tweeted on these bills and talked
10:14about the fact that he was bringing very strong legislation,
10:17he should have been out there defending what he wanted to say.
10:20And there was this major episode that happened.
10:23And then look at what happens after that.
10:26Nine bills are passed all in a minute each.
10:3037 minutes, nine bills.
10:31Can you imagine?
10:33And these bills are not, you know, in any way less important than the others.
10:38The mines and minerals bills, which is going to change the entire center-state relations when it comes to taxation.
10:44I mean, I can, each of those bills had significant weather.
10:47Six minutes it was passed.
10:48Yeah.
10:48And here the point is that you are expecting proper debate.
10:53Okay.
10:54Even on the subject that finally what, when the government came and the whole minister said that he would like
10:59to come and speak,
11:00the opposition should have let him because there was, again, what are we debating in each of these things?
11:06The parliament is meant to bring sensible debate.
11:09There will be differences.
11:10After all, we voted all differently in various things.
11:12And all those points of view need to be taken for every legislation that happens.
11:16And then you feel that, yes, this is a well-rounded bill.
11:19I think the deterioration that you are talking about, Rajdeep, and you also in many senses, yes, historically it has
11:25happened.
11:25But at this inflection point, this parliament is setting a terrible example to all those youngsters.
11:34And it delegitimizes the establishment as well as the opposition in their eyes.
11:40And their demand for change will now go beyond just the examinations and other things, the entire business of running
11:46how we do legislation, how we run this country.
11:49But it could have been resolved in week two.
11:52She gave a, you know, Moshpi gave a detailed chronology of how it happened.
11:57Yes, the opposition chained the goalposts.
11:59But what stopped the home minister from doing what he came to do on the second last day, in the
12:05second week itself?
12:06You could have then put the opposition on the mat.
12:09What is happening?
12:09And that's my problem.
12:10The fact is, when the government has to face inconvenient questions or there is a calling attention motion on important
12:17issues, the government doesn't want those to be discussed.
12:20The opposition, for its part, when it finds itself on the back foot, will immediately obstruct parliament.
12:25No, but Rajdeep, so let me give you the counterpoint.
12:28This is exactly what used to happen in the Gujarat Assembly.
12:30No, let me give you a counterpoint.
12:32Assembly, 2002-2014, you have now only taken it national.
12:35That's what's happened.
12:36No, so after, after, no, hold on.
12:39After Dharmendra Pradhan resigned, opposition had its way.
12:43Dharmendra Pradhan has resigned.
12:44What stopped them from then listening and having a decent debate?
12:47What stopped the opposition?
12:48There was a debate on me.
12:50There was a debate on me.
12:52The home minister was to make a statement on pellet guns.
12:55Once he'd made the statement, he could have immediately punctured the opposition.
12:58Why didn't he do that?
12:59Why did he choose not even to enter the house?
13:01And why did Rahul Gandhi, for his part, as is being suggested, also then decide to change the goalpost?
13:08Look, there are no angels here.
13:10The truth of the matter is, Tali Dohaad Se Bajti Hai.
13:12I agree entirely.
13:14But the treasury benches have a greater responsibility, like it or not.
13:18I want to bring in Moshmi back into the conversation.
13:20Because what's interesting is what Raj Chengappa said, Moshmi.
13:23Because now you have an entire generation that is protesting on the streets.
13:27And with what's happening in parliament, one thing is clear,
13:30that the voices from ground are not resonating in parliament.
13:33And this will further alienate this generation,
13:36because there is a massive generational disconnect.
13:39Now look at what has happened in the last one week.
13:41Every bill which the government wanted to put forth and table in this session,
13:46and thought was an achievement today.
13:48You've had Jairam Ramesh from the Congress quote each one of those bills as an achievement of the opposition,
13:54that they could not be tabled.
13:55This is how low the trust deficit is.
13:58He really pointed out, if you look at those bills, that they went to the JPC,
14:02and the JPC has postponed the tabling of the report.
14:05And he says that that is a robust united opposition.
14:09If you talk about the One Nation, One Election bill,
14:12or you talk about the Dismissal Bill that he talks about as far as corruption is concerned.
14:17These bills are in the JPC, Preeti.
14:20They never saw the light of the day.
14:22They were not listed in the entire scheme of things.
14:25So, he's pointing out to those, excluding the FCRA and the delimitation.
14:31Now, coming to the FCRA also, you know, the goalpost changed within the government during the session.
14:39You got the FCRA listed, but the Home Minister met stakeholders when the session was on last week.
14:47You could have done that homework beforehand.
14:49And then the government changed the goalpost, putting it to the JPC.
14:54Otherwise, the FCRA could be passed.
14:56The government was in two minds because there was a serious problem with the FCRA bill.
15:00Within the NDA.
15:01Within the NDA.
15:02There was a shifting of goalposts from the government side as well.
15:05Where were the FCRA is concerned?
15:06No, no, just a quick data point.
15:10Between 2004 and 2014, coalition government, 65% of the bills went to a select committee for scrutiny.
15:17That's come down to less than 10%.
15:19It's good.
15:20Bills should go to a scrutiny.
15:22They should be scrutinized.
15:23They shouldn't be passed like this.
15:24So, if the FCRA has flaws, let there be a JPC.
15:27Nothing wrong with that.
15:28I want to take final comments from all of you.
15:30And Rajdeep, let's bring you in.
15:31And then I'll bring in Gaurav.
15:32And then Raj Singhappa right in the end.
15:34And Moshmi, you can also have a say.
15:35Final comments.
15:35Can I have a final word?
15:36Go that side.
15:37You want to go that side?
15:38Okay, fine.
15:38Rajdeep, always wants the last word.
15:40No, no.
15:40You have the final word.
15:41I have no problem.
15:42I have no problem, Rajdeep, having the final word.
15:44As long as it's facts.
15:46And it takes the bigger picture.
15:48I have given you hard data.
15:49You know, 19%.
15:5019% is Lok Sabha's productivity.
15:5339% is Rajya Sabha's productivity.
15:5611 of 12 bills that they are passing without debate.
15:58It just goes on to show our lawmakers have failed the nation.
16:01Fair point.
16:029.19% is fail marks.
16:05That's the question I want to get at.
16:06Because what's happening right now on ground?
16:08We've seen that one protest has spiraled multiple protests across this country.
16:13One is still raging on in the state of Jharkhand.
16:16And yet, the opposition is just so silent on it.
16:19Where is that massive support for Jharkhand?
16:22We don't see that.
16:23From the opposition side.
16:24From the opposition side.
16:25So, there are multiple protests that are taking place across the country.
16:28Even you have Gen Alpha now in smaller schools taking up the cudgels and speaking up against
16:33what they feel is unfair treatment.
16:35And especially, a lack of a robust education system.
16:39Do you see now, Gaurav, with what's happening in parliament and what's happening on ground,
16:42there's a massive disconnect.
16:44This will further alienate the same, the youth and the generation that we've been speaking of in the last two
16:49weeks.
16:50I don't see this.
16:51I don't think it'll alienate those people.
16:53But I'm always very happy with students airing their views, with the youth airing their views,
16:59as long as it remains non-violent.
17:01The moment it becomes violent, the moment those angles come in,
17:06that is where questions start to be asked.
17:09And there is no justification whatsoever for violence in a student's protest or any protest for that matter.
17:16So, let's keep that very, look at Jharkhand, Jharkhand, students are protesting so peacefully.
17:22I know it hurts people because Delhi protests, the biggest disaster with Delhi protests was the stone pelting, was vandalism.
17:28Okay, you know, we are not talking about the protests, Gaurav, but if you are talking about the protests,
17:31if you are going to give credit to the students, you need to give credit to the Jharkhand police as
17:36well.
17:36The Jharkhand police did not use the kind of force that the Delhi police is.
17:39They were a bloody charge, they switched off lines, they did, they did, there is no comparison, no comparison.
17:47No, I am not, I am not.
17:48All I am trying to tell you is, all I am trying to tell you is, let there be no
17:53violence, there will be no counter violence.
17:55Okay, let's get back to the topic and I want to bring in Raj Ingapai in all of this.
17:58Raj, with what you see on ground, because ultimately, do you see that resonate in parliament?
18:03Because ideally, that should have.
18:04You know, I had said this earlier, but I would just make an additional point.
18:08Apart from what we saw in terms of parliamentary behavior in this session and also in the past,
18:14what we are also seeing, and this is going to be, again, delegitimizing the establishment or the parliament
18:20or whichever big democratic institution that we have, is the kind of defections and buying and selling of MPs,
18:28I am sorry to say, or splitting of parties and everything else.
18:31Take a look at this particular period that we are seeing.
18:35I think the NDA came with 293 in this 2024 general elections and the BJP was 240.
18:43That number has moved to 316, if I am not mistaken.
18:46Now they are trying desperately to get to 366.
18:48But if you see the way these parties have split and broken off, the TMC 20 MPs have gone the
18:55other side.
18:56Like the Shiv Sena UBT, I think six went that side.
18:59If you see, about seven ARP members went towards the BJP or, you know, moved out of this.
19:05If you see what's happening, there again, all moral or any sort of, you know, democratic norms are being violated.
19:14If you have one on a certain ticket and a certain party, you should resign if you don't particularly agree
19:21with what's happening.
19:21You don't see that.
19:22So what we are seeing on one hand is a deterioration of parliamentary lawmaking and debate.
19:27On the other side, deterioration, a total deterioration in terms of the way we are electing, our elected members are
19:33behaving.
19:33And this is not a great example for the young who are asking for change and they find there is
19:39a lack of morality in this place.
19:40Total disconnect.
19:42Okay, I want to, Bashmi, I want to get you in.
19:43What can we expect now?
19:45Are we expecting a special session to be called?
19:47There's a lot of buzz about that, that maybe the delimitation bill will be brought in a special session.
19:51I heard that the allies were briefed that there could probably be a special session.
19:57But my hunch is that...
19:59Your gut.
20:00Yeah, my gut feeling is that that's far away right now because they simply don't have the numbers.
20:05They're short of at least two-digit numbers.
20:07And, you know, this is a very big turning point in Modi 3.0, I think.
20:13At least what I saw in the parliament.
20:15I've not seen the government ministers in such a severe distress and disarray, you know, reading between the lines within
20:23the parliament in terms of what they're doing, what is the guideline.
20:28And that's because Amit Shah would spearhead and shepherd every bill.
20:33He would be there on the floor of the house.
20:35They were quite rudderless.
20:36To the extent of Rahul Gandhi getting a free hand, making all those attacks.
20:40So this is a big turning point in Modi 3.0.
20:43That's what you look at.
20:43Okay, right now.
20:44Rajdeep bhai, quickly.
20:45Okay, I've got a quick quote.
20:46A parliament can survive noisy debate, sharp disagreement, even political confrontation.
20:51What it cannot survive is the debt of dialogue.
20:54When MPs stop listening, that's why I wanted to listen to my...
20:57This is Rajdeep state.
20:58You can't do this.
21:00No, no, no.
21:00I'm just because I...
21:02Look, I'm trying to do.
21:03No, no.
21:04Very good, very good.
21:05When MPs stop listening, governments stop answering and the chair loses neutrality,
21:10parliament ceases to be the nation's forum for argument, becomes merely a theatre of confrontation.
21:15But I want to end with the person, I think, who we don't, you know, as I said even earlier,
21:21and Raj just now mentioned about MPs defecting, we have an absurd situation where you have MPs
21:26who formed a party which is not even recognized but has been registered and the speaker is sitting
21:31on whether they should be, that party, NCPI, should be allowed or not.
21:35Three months, you know, several months have gone.
21:37We don't even know what their status is and the speaker should have acted.
21:40But I want to end with the person who, to a large extent, I think, whatever else he got
21:44wrong and, you know, my friend Mr. Sawant will only see whatever he's got wrong.
21:49Jawaharlal Nehru got one thing right because I think he had committed himself to parliamentary
21:53democracy.
21:54In his 1957 speech, The Relevance of Parliamentary Democracy, he said India had adopted a parliamentary
22:00government after a long argument and that itself indicated the value we, the people, attached
22:05to it.
22:06And importantly, he went on to say, I want people in the country, in the legislatures,
22:11sharp enough to criticize the government.
22:14I think it is dangerous for a government or for any party to become complacent on that
22:20issue.
22:20Government needs scrutiny.
22:22Opposition needs to function.
22:24Otherwise, and Nehru also adds, central oil should not become a bazaar.
22:29The dignity of parliament above all else.
22:33And do we see that happen today?
22:34Do we see that happen today?
22:36Either the government or the opposition.
22:40I'm amazed that Raj, you read it all out.
22:42This is our paper.
22:43We have to hear.
22:44No, I'm not going to do this.
22:46You don't be the topic in advance.
22:48I was a good student.
22:49So you can't start reading out from your phone.
22:52You know, so Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru.
22:56No, hold on, hold on.
22:57Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru.
22:58He should be sent to the power.
22:59He would be a good parliamentarian because he'll shout out and distort all the facts according
23:04to him.
23:06So I said Nehru, Nehru, Nehru had Atal Bihari Vajpayee, Modi has Rahul Gandhi.
23:13Just look at the difference in the quality of debate that's happening on the ground.
23:17So, you know, that, that, that is the thing that you have to say.
23:21It takes two to tango.
23:23It takes two to tango.
23:25Of course, and they must, but it's a noisy, it's a noisy democracy, but there should be
23:32a debate.
23:32Okay, all right.
23:33Call the PM, call the HM in.
23:36Okay, all that, not much, me, shoo.
23:38Okay, all that, no.
23:39Now, you know, you're, you're being worse than the speaker of the, at the chamber.
23:43No, no, no.
23:44Very conveniently, we ignore cash for votes and all that that's happened in parliament, even
23:48in the past.
23:49It's not as if all the deterioration happened post-2014.
23:52Actually, I second the motion.
23:54I'm for sure the other side.
23:56I second the motion.
23:57Okay, camera's on me.
23:58Okay, that, that's, that's a hard cut.
23:59Thank you all for joining us.
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