00:01split with the Royals talk more about it at 635 this should solidify things I wonder if there
00:06were people holding out hope after Friday night with Tarek Scooble John we also have some pup
00:11news uh-huh Lions gonna have their vets report tomorrow training camp will be underway and there
00:17are a couple names that they put on the pup list now quickly this doesn't mean they're gonna miss
00:22any games necessarily no it just means they're gonna be held out of practice at the start of
00:26training camp if you practice even once you can't go on the pup list if you don't if you start
00:34on the
00:35pup list then once you are medically cleared you can return so the two name two of the names that
00:41we're talking about we've been talking about all season long Kirby Joseph Brian Branch Tyler
00:45Conklin's the only other name yeah no surprise Brian Branch is on this and I think he may actually
00:50stay on it for those first four weeks I think that's how I expect this to go yeah he would
00:58start the year on the pup he's coming back from an Achilles injury there's a surgery and a rehab
01:03associated with it the Kirby Joseph thing is hard to figure out yeah because there wasn't a surgery
01:09on his knee it's been nine to ten months yeah since he played football games it's just all different
01:16forms of treatment what's the issue there is he ever gonna be okay again and the way the coaching
01:22staff has spoken about it I'll give him credit very honestly very bluntly they don't know so this is a
01:29big red flag especially when he's going out on social media the day before and saying you know how
01:36much you want to bet I won't be on the pup and then literally the next day the team places
01:40him on the
01:41pup I don't know what's going on with that knee and he's such an important piece of this team
01:45if you go back in 2024 they were top 10 in takeaways you know where they were last year
01:5419th yeah it's a big deal for a team that's defense comes and goes they need to get takeaways
01:58and he's a big part of that as a ball hawk John I have no idea what to expect from
02:02Kirby Joseph and
02:02it sounds like neither does he and neither does the team here's what I expect because uh when you start
02:09training camp on the pup you count against the 90 man roster if you start the season
02:15on the pup you don't count against the 53 man roster so that's probably where I see Brian Branch
02:21I think this is a hey we want to remove any chance of Kirby Joseph being on the field we
02:27don't want
02:28it we're not just going to go to their training camp and say yeah you're sitting out today they want
02:33to remove all those questions you know hey did Kirby Joseph practice today no he can't he's on the pup
02:39all right so if he's not every single day is tomorrow today is tomorrow today no we'll tell
02:44you when we remove him from the pup I think it's this for Kirby Joseph it's probably just a hey
02:49we're
02:49going to keep you out for the first two weeks once we play that first preseason game then we'll
02:54reevaluate and see if we want to put you into practice so that you can get you know some reps
03:01before we get into the season not in game but at practice so let me just say this I get
03:05the strategy
03:06of it that's not my question my question is is this knee so effed that even after 10 months of
03:14rehabbing it he can't practice tomorrow that they have to still baby this knee I'm concerned about the
03:21knee not how they're handling it I think they're handling it the right way
03:26I have the same questions I don't know yeah all right I'm no doctor I'm not in those meetings
03:32between Kirby Joseph the doctor the training staff Dan Campbell whoever else is is going to have these
03:38conversations um but I do see this as a somewhat of a media media relations move where we're the if
03:50if they're going to just hold him out whether he's on the roster or he's on the pup he counts
03:56against the roster so they don't want to answer those questions every day so for two weeks if he's
04:01not going to practice if this is the pre-planned route that they're taking this is the prescribed
04:07we're going to get you ready for the season then you're not practicing the first two weeks three
04:12weeks whatever that number is I guess my question is I don't think the knee's holding up no I agree
04:17if
04:17if he's not stable enough to start practice I have major doubts as to through a 17 game season
04:24especially with an early bye week is he going to be available in weeks 12 13 15 and maybe he's
04:34only
04:34available every other week I don't know how about three of the last four weeks on the road in the
04:38division or when the whole thing's going to get defined the postseason yeah and and some of those
04:44games on the road in the division are going to be outside it's it's going to be at Chicago it's
04:49going to be at Green Bay like the weather does play a factor in an injury like this how long
04:54does
04:55it take you to get warmed up can you stay warmed up if you're on the sidelines in the cold
04:58weather
04:59well as Kirby said yesterday we should have bet on him not not being on it no well anyway let's
05:04get to
05:05Heather with the news
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