00:05let's get it rolling on a wednesday uh had other things i want to talk about that i find
00:10certainly exponentially more interesting than this topic but whatever we got to do it kirby
00:15joseph's windows open i just don't know anyone who's optimistic i don't know anyone who believes
00:21this guy's coming back playing 60 snaps a week of all pro football why would they open the window
00:26because it's bleep or get off the pot they gotta know all right so go ahead start the window
00:35yeah i think they have to know especially because you're right there we'll figure out if we need to
00:40make that trade or not if we need to go out and find another safety this will give you 13
00:45days to
00:46kind of figure out yep this is gonna work or yeah this he's a lot further along than what we
00:52actually
00:53thought but if he does work he'll be that the the pseudo trade the pickup that you're getting him
01:00and branch coming you actually believe that i do if if no he's available i don't think he's gonna
01:05ever play no okay so right off the rip that's my point and why i don't love this is like
01:10i also don't
01:12get it what you talked about what he did on social media buddy right now you're you're like uh lewis
01:18hamilton and and michael schumacher you're neck and neck here at the finish line for bad social
01:22media with brendan iuke why is he doing these things do you can you pull that up yeah i'll pull
01:27it up for you it's just the whole you know you're angry because people are doubting you give me one
01:33second yeah no it's not doubting you it's doubting your biology it's doubting your your cartilage and
01:38your knee this is my issue with it nobody doesn't want you back right everyone wants you back
01:48but yeah i i just i don't i don't you know i don't understand anything i mean i lit shabath
01:53up
01:53earlier too like like you're seeing articles now like jonathan taylor's wife is all aggrieved on
01:59social media worried about the family you know what he just got 44 mil fully guaranteed you live in a
02:05different five million dollar house mrs taylor ain't nobody trying to hear it sorry i just it's one of
02:12those days where i feel like i live in a simulation kirby's mad at people who actually
02:18desperately want him to be yes he's been upset about people all the time it started off with the
02:23whole don't ever doubt me i'm gonna bet you i won't be on the ir followed by like an hour
02:28later
02:29the lions put him on ir to start the season it's like well kirby you lost that bet then it's
02:34all of
02:34you know people just don't want me back it's like kirby nobody nobody everybody wants you to come
02:38back but we just kind of see what it is but the latest thing that popped up is uh yeah
02:44read this
02:44and you'll have to edit it for language don't ever doubt me again in your mother life this my last
02:52tweet though for a while lol i love god i love my family and i love my fans and i
02:59love this game
03:02cb fw 2026 forever zoop energy otw followed by battery emojis and storm clouds and lightning bolts
03:12i that you lost maybe we need shabafi i need a little orphan anti-decoder
03:18i just i don't know about yeah the picture is a wolf pointing at you so cool look i i
03:25i i it would be an
03:26unbelievable great i that looks like a husky is that yeah yeah okay yeah husky yeah look do whatever
03:33you want i just i i'll believe it when i see it it's just what it is man it's it's
03:40going to be a
03:40pain tolerance thing and you can hear the way dan campbell speaks about the injury they won't come
03:44out and say it it's it's cartilage it's it's it's degenerative that's what it has to be it's not
03:51a ligament it's not it it's not an acl an mcl a pcl it's it's it's it's not a patellar
03:58it's not
03:58it's yeah and the fact i'm sorry the would campbell if i heard it correctly it's like yeah even he
04:05doesn't believe we're going to see him back anytime soon we just need to see some progress to paraphrase
04:09right talks about strengthening the leg and the shock absorbers and i i mean we we know what this is
04:14medical experts have weighed in on this so i have nothing to compare it to this isn't concussion
04:21recovery i've heard that on other shows it is not it's not a brain injury i think maybe you you
04:26if it
04:27is what we think it is you you had the best analogy i mean the best example in pre-show
04:31of miles jack a
04:32guy who went out there and got it done and all of a sudden he just had uh bad knees
04:39and his his
04:40entire career just fell off it stopped and never came back i don't know i'd love to know level i'd
04:46love to know people's faith quotient here i mean what's your confidence level you're gonna see kirby
04:50a in a game but b play 40 snaps a game i won't even ask him to be the starting
04:57safety okay do you believe
04:59he could be a rotational player for you and play at a high level coming back is one thing you're
05:05just a
05:05jersey but coming back as a guy who was an all pro what three two three years ago i i
05:12don't know a
05:13single person who believes that i don't so if that makes me bad that's fine but i don't factor kirby
05:20joseph into my plans i don't factor kirby joseph into what i think of this team and it's it's a
05:25shame
05:25but it's football it's no different than you know david's team or your team or my team you have guys
05:31sustain injuries and you know even if they come back they're not coming back the same that's just
05:37the sport it's it's it sucks but it's what it is yeah i mean this is one of those injuries
05:42it's like
05:42a back injury or something like that where yeah you can come back or you you know what i'd rather
05:47you
05:47just sit this year out and really take some time in the offseason and hit the ground running game one
05:53of next season but he wants back they're going to test it window is opened i do think that this
05:59is
06:00we're we're going to know something here because now we can actually put him through drills put him
06:05through test my biggest fear i just hope this isn't well if he's okay well we we don't need to
06:12make a trade yes you do you you absolutely do because even if he comes back i don't see him
06:19lasting
06:19that much longer like he'll be back injured again that's just my belief i'm not wishing
06:24anything bad upon him no it's just how i what i believe 248-539-9797 david paulie talk to me
06:32i mean
06:32if i if you did a a one through five it's a one you did a one to ten confidence
06:38level i put it at a two
06:39like i just i've heard enough from medical experts the timeline has been murky you hear the way dan
06:47campbell's talking i think they're in hope phase i think it's all hope i don't think there's any
06:52expectation and that's where i'm at i'm hoping and hope is not a strategy go ahead paul well no i
06:58think
06:58you're right and i just think that they activated him off the pup list they're going to put him
07:03through his paces and i think ultimately probably just put him back on the pup list i don't know if
07:09he'll actually get into a game i think that might be asking too much because like he's been gone for
07:14over a year and a half like this the idea that they open his window he's immediately practicing
07:19too is kind of like weird yeah but they've been working him up physically i i and again paul here's
07:24what you have to go back to there was the one strange day last year where he got back on
07:29the
07:29practice field and it was oh he completed a rep and then limped off in pain and then he completed
07:34a
07:34rep and it looked good and limped off in pain you're dealing in something here paulie i think you
07:40know what it is i mean it just sounds bone on bone incredible pain and eventually you're just
07:47not going to be able to do this so they've tried to build his strength right i know he disappeared
07:52from training camp on a personal matter but then behind the scenes you heard dan campbell talk about
07:57it build the strength in the leg to cushion the knee the shock absorbers paulie they got to put him
08:03out there but i'm with you is that you're going to put him into practice and i'll be surprised if
08:09he
08:09plays shocked if he played at a high level through no fault of his own and he's doing everything he
08:14can to try to get back because let's face it he's never going to collect a paycheck again this is
08:19it
08:19right here well yeah and also it's like anyone that has this kind of injury where it's bone on bone
08:25degenerative knee issues like todd girley came out of college and everyone that drafted anyone that
08:31would have drafted him sort of knew he's got about a five or six year window and then it's over
08:35and it
08:40gone yeah exactly it's like and he wasn't even in it was like 27 and he's done we talked about
08:45miles jack he's 30 i feel like he's been out of the league for 10 years yeah so i i
08:50just that's the
08:51long and short of it lions fan you tell us they've opened the practice window for kirby joseph 21 days
08:58they're going to give this a run how do you see it going give me your optimism or pessimism
09:03and if someone could decode some of kobe's kobe some of kirby's uh social media things and pictures
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