00:00I saw someone say it was like an anthem for male loneliness.
00:04Performing it is like the best part and I don't have to like think about the male loneliness
00:08part of it because now I just get to perform it in front of people and shake my little
00:14ass.
00:14Big fat ass, I mean.
00:22We got into the studio and we always start really kind of early, like 11am.
00:26Taylor would come in in the morning with his coffee and he would like sit at the piano
00:31right away and he started playing the chords or a version of those chords and I was like
00:36I end my day and we started jamming in the room.
00:40We had so many versions at the last minute we just switched something around in the chorus
00:45and then we were like this feels like the turbocharged version.
00:48This is like Hi-Hope 3000 and so I was like maybe we should call it that.
01:06Hey, when I'm in album mode my life is also very repetitive.
01:10There's not much of a social aspect when like every week Monday through Friday you are going
01:16to the studio from 11am to 9pm and then you're like dead and you don't.
01:21It is lonely.
01:22Brand new shirt, yes it's a little expensive, oh whatever works to put some joy in the engine.
01:30You know, I say anything to put some joy in the engine but I don't know how much that
01:35really helps.
01:36But sometimes you get like the perfect shirt and you're like put some joy in the engine.
01:39It's like retail therapy and I go out on the town trying to change my night and doing it
01:48over and over and over and over again, all hell.
01:53An ideal night for me would be like dinner with friends, paying as the food comes so you
02:00have to sit so long, maybe like one drink now and yeah, go home.
02:11I need some high hopes, lord knows I could use them.
02:15I know I'mma lose them when the wheels fall off.
02:18Hey, now, lend some independence, stuck inside the fences like a goddamn dog.
02:24I think the worst part about dating, every first date you're having to start from like ground
02:29zero.
02:30What do you do for work?
02:31Where are you from?
02:33Oh, what took you to LA?
02:34It's really annoying.
02:36At a certain point I'm just like, you just hit, it's just rock bottom.
02:40That's the point where I start Googling adoption places for dogs and stuff and I'm like, I need
02:45something.
02:45Long nights, heavy feelings, they say I'm unappealing when I shoot my shot.
02:51Come here honey, show me how to do it.
02:54Does love come around or does one come around to it?
02:58Oh yeah.
02:58Yeah.
02:59I think I was eager in kind of a pathetic way to find love and I think when you are
03:08that
03:08eager, you're kind of missing the plot a little bit and I think good things will find you.
03:15I don't think anything good comes from being desperate because then you're going to be blinded
03:18a little bit.
03:20I get undressed in the arms of a stranger, then second guess that all have sober behavior.
03:27Feeling like you have a girlfriend or something or a partner for like one night is kind of
03:33romantic.
03:33romantic.
03:34But also if you're waking up in the morning and you're second guessing, I mean that hurts
03:38a little bit.
03:39But I think you just have to go into those things knowing that maybe this person's a
03:43band-aid and not your love for life.
03:46I don't know.
03:47Do I really, do I really believe that someone could change my life?
03:51I'm doing it over and over and over and over again.
03:57Where does it end?
03:58Where does it end?
03:58When I was making the album, it was just like a lot of back and forth of like, do I
04:03know
04:04best?
04:05Is there like something within me that I need to fix myself and then go put myself out there?
04:14Or will putting myself out there fix whatever?
04:18It's like, you know, who knows?
04:20That one I don't have an answer for.
04:23Woo, talking about hi, hi.
04:26Hopes, hopes.
04:28Lord knows I could use them.
04:29I know I'mma lose them when the wheels fall off.
04:32Hey, hey.
04:33Now, now.
04:34Lend some independence.
04:36Stuck inside the fences like a goddamn dog.
04:39Okay now.
04:39The bridge is really fun.
04:41I've never made anything like that.
04:42This was like musical and like fun and loose, but still like pop feeling, but also like touches
04:51of country.
04:51It was like this perfect cocktail of everything I love.
04:56I think that challenge of yes, on paper, these songs can be pretty depressing, but sonically
05:06like distracting people from that is like the goal.
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