00:00They're all pro football focus era team for the NFL.
00:05They've been doing each of the 32 teams recently, pro football focus has.
00:10And for those who don't know, pro football focus, the website that grades every player,
00:15every snap of every game, and they give them a numerical grade for people that love numbers.
00:20It's a fantastic website.
00:21They've got some good stuff on there.
00:24So it goes back to 2006.
00:26So this is essentially sort of the all pro team in the eyes of PFF since 2006.
00:35The Texans show up twice on this team.
00:38One is an obvious one.
00:40J.J. Watt is one of the defensive linemen on this team.
00:43It's about time.
00:44We'll talk about J.J. in a little bit.
00:46J.J. was fun on social media the last few days.
00:49So J.J. made this team on the defensive line.
00:52He was first team along with Aaron Donald.
00:53It sounds like they're treating him like an interior defensive lineman for purposes of this.
00:58Who, J.J.?
00:58J.J., yep.
01:01So the other one that shows up, if I said wide receiver, shows up on the PFF since 2006, all
01:11NFL team.
01:12I would say that would be Andre Johnson.
01:14You would say Andre Johnson, wouldn't you?
01:15I'd say DeAndre.
01:16You would say DeAndre.
01:17I would say DeAndre.
01:18Why would you say DeAndre over Andre?
01:19I think because of more people look towards newer.
01:22Like, I've always lived in the world of new is always better.
01:25This is purely based on scores, though.
01:27Yeah.
01:28Okay.
01:28This is purely based on data.
01:30Oh, then, okay.
01:31Then, yeah.
01:31It should be Andre, then.
01:32Then, it's not.
01:34It's actually...
01:34It's DeAndre.
01:35It's DeAndre.
01:36Now, Andre loses the benefit, I guess, of the first three years of his career.
01:40I think he made a Pro Bowl in, like, 2004 when he was a teammate of yours.
01:43So since 2006.
01:45Yeah, but Andre really didn't take off until his third year, right?
01:48Yeah.
01:49Until, yeah.
01:49And he really took off, like, in 2008.
01:51He was the best receiver in football in 08 and 09.
01:54Like, for three straight years, too, he was unstoppable.
01:56He was amazing.
01:57But DeAndre's probably had a more consistently productive year by year.
02:00Yeah, and DeAndre makes first team.
02:02Yeah.
02:03So they have first team and second team.
02:04Now, they have three receivers on the first team.
02:07Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, DeAndre Hopkins.
02:12The three second team receivers, Devontae Adams, Calvin Johnson, and Tyreek Hill.
02:18Now, my question is this.
02:20You look at those six names.
02:23Julio Jones.
02:24Julio Jones.
02:25Well, Calvin Johnson's in the Hall of Fame.
02:27Julio Jones feels like a lock.
02:29Julio Jones, 16th all-time receiving yards.
02:31Feels like a lock.
02:32DeAndre's at 18th.
02:33Okay.
02:34Antonio Brown should be a lock.
02:37Yeah.
02:37Should be a lock.
02:38On-field player is a Hall of Famer.
02:40Yeah.
02:41Which is what's supposed to take anything off-field into account.
02:44But they did that with Terrell Owens.
02:48They held him out a couple of years because he was a bad teammate.
02:51Tyreek Hill, similar to Antonio Brown.
02:54Tyreek Hill's a Hall of Famer.
02:55Look at his resume.
02:56He's a Hall of Famer.
02:58And Devontae Adams, I think, is on that track as well.
03:01Put it this way.
03:02Of these six guys who are first or second team, I feel like DeAndre's the one who,
03:06to me, far and away, has the least amount of buzz like that.
03:09Yeah, I think that, especially when, a lot of times when you're atypical, it's not rewarded.
03:15And DeAndre's atypical compared to those other guys in that his speed wasn't, like,
03:21the blistering, menacing.
03:22Right, right.
03:23He still affected coverages.
03:25People didn't want him running after the catch.
03:27But I don't think that people look at him in that same category.
03:30But he is.
03:32Like, he's 18th.
03:33He's 18th in all-time receiving yards.
03:35The guys who aren't in the Hall of Fame above him, who are eligible, are Steve Smith Sr.,
03:44Reggie Wayne.
03:44Who's been a finalist.
03:45Who've both been finalists a couple times.
03:47And both probably eventually will find their way in.
03:49Or at least be in that conversation until the end.
03:51Unless there's a log jam at wide receiver.
03:53But continue.
03:54Reggie Wayne, and then Anquan Boldin is the one that, like, a lot of times people would
03:59compare DeAndre to Anquan Boldin somewhat and say, all right, it doesn't look like the
04:03way guys typically do it, but he's just so physical at the catch point, and he just churns
04:08out production.
04:10And I think DeAndre was better than Anquan Boldin, but I think people are going to throw
04:14him into that same category.
04:15I do, too.
04:16So he's 18th, huh?
04:17Yeah.
04:18See, my whole thing with the Hall of Fame is this, and this is why I think DeAndre is
04:22a candidate and what he's getting credit for.
04:23If you're one of the best at your position, if you're first-team All-Pro, for a period
04:28of, like, over a five-year period, if you're first-team All-Pro and or second-team All-Pro,
04:34for most of that period of time, from 2015 through 2019, the only year DeAndre Hopkins wasn't
04:41in that conversation or an actual first-team All-Pro was the year that Brock Osweiler was
04:45the quarterback.
04:47The only person that could shut down DeAndre Hopkins was Brock Osweiler as his quarterback.
04:52Like, it was the one year where DeAndre only had, like, 800 yards.
04:56954 that season.
04:57Okay, so he's almost 1,000, even with Brockster as his quarterback.
05:00Yeah, I know.
05:00He was a quarterback skeleton, Keith.
05:01Yeah.
05:02That was the only...
05:02Brock was the only guy that didn't figure out a way to just throw the ball in the general
05:07direction of DeAndre Hopkins.
05:08Right.
05:09And...
05:10Go ahead.
05:10If he would have had any other quarterback find him that year and go for 1,000 yards,
05:14eight straight 1,000-yard years.
05:16Yeah.
05:16Yeah.
05:17Henry Allard is the only other guy.
05:19Ellard.
05:20Yeah.
05:20You know what?
05:21That's what I thought.
05:21And then I looked up, just to be sure, on pronunciation.
05:24And I thought...
05:24I know.
05:25Yeah.
05:25Okay, well, I know.
05:26I did know.
05:27You're shrugging at whoever you were looking it up with.
05:29Stupid Gemini.
05:32They can't do pronunciation now either.
05:35I haven't pronounced Ellard's name since maybe like 1998 or so.
05:39Yeah.
05:39Yeah.
05:40And he's in the top 18.
05:41Yeah.
05:41Top 16.
05:42Yeah.
05:42Yeah.
05:43Yeah.
05:43Do you consider that maybe because of what we've witnessed with Devontae Adams
05:46being last year's leader in touchdown receptions
05:49and kind of the fall off of DeAndre Hopkins,
05:51that's why he's not thought about in such a prominent way?
05:54I don't know.
05:54I mean, Devontae Adams had some big years,
05:57played in a lot of big games in Green Bay.
06:01Pert DeAndre Hopkins, a lot of his damage was done with a Texans team.
06:06His teams, by and large, they were good teams,
06:08but they were not contending teams that DeAndre was on.
06:13I guess the old barometer you always use is,
06:16okay, was there a period of time where people looked at him
06:18as the best receiver in the NFL?
06:20Yeah.
06:20And I don't think he was ever up at that spot.
06:23He was first team All-Pro three out of like five years.
06:26I mean, that's pretty good.
06:27I don't know.
06:29Is it enough to where he's a slam dunk for the Hall of Fame?
06:32Probably not.
06:32But I think he gets under-discussed in conversations like this.
06:38All the time, DeAndre Hopkins.
06:40There's an interesting cut I saw from Jalen Ramsey over the weekend.
06:43We'll play it right here.
06:44He was on the Million Dollars Worth of Game podcast
06:47and said the only wide receiver to ever put up 100 yards on him in a game
06:53was DeAndre Hopkins at the end of 2018, and here's what it led him to do.
06:58Put him twice for two yards.
07:01Right.
07:01No, personally, DeHop put over 100 on me that game because I was matched up on him
07:08at least 80% of the time, and he had probably 120 to 140 that game last game of the
07:16season
07:16that year, and he went to work.
07:18I remember I was hot right out of the game.
07:19I texted my trainer and my pops in a group message.
07:22I said, as soon as I get home, we got to get after it.
07:27DeHop killed me today.
07:29As soon as I get home, we got to get after it.
07:31Put your sweats, your whole training?
07:33No, no, not everything.
07:35Just certain stuff that he was killing me on during the game.
07:37I'm like, yo, I got to get better at that specifically.
07:41Like this.
07:42I need to find out a new technique to stop that.
07:44Right.
07:45Or I need to do this differently.
07:47Like, I can't keep losing like that.
07:49He beat me on this route three times this game.
07:51I can't lose like that no more.
07:53That's the, you know, if John McClain is still in charge, the guy that was in charge of kind
07:58of presenting the case for the guys from Houston, that clip needs to be in there because I know
08:02they weigh that real heavily.
08:04They want to hear about the guys they competed against and what it was like.
08:07I remember that was in a period when Jalen Ransby was talking smack about anybody and
08:12everybody, including his own team, like his own quarterbacks.
08:16He would, uh, that, that, but he would never talk smack about DeAndre Hopkins.
08:20That was the one that he, he had the eminent, like the most respect for DeAndre Hopkins.
08:2412 catches for 147 yards in the game that he's talking about right there.
08:28Yeah, like you said, it was consistent.
08:29It wasn't just a Dinkin' and Duncan type of affair.
08:31No, no, yeah.
08:3212 catches for $1.47.
08:34Yeah, I'm curious how people feel.
08:36DeAndre Hopkins, we're getting some texts on this.
08:39During his prime years, I've never seen anything with hands like Hopkins.
08:43Ball be thrown to, to Barnes and somehow, I don't know what that means, but I'm guessing
08:47it means someone's throwing it way far away.
08:50Yeah.
08:50And somehow he's getting, he's getting not just two hands, not just one hand, but two
08:54hands.
08:54He is the broad side of a barn.
08:55He is the broad side of a barn.
09:10There's where he tips it up to himself and then comes down with a one hand in the back
09:13of the end zone.
09:14Yeah.
09:14That's where you realize you don't question this dude when it comes to his hands.
09:17The other, one of the best catches he ever made was negated because he himself, illegally,
09:22but the one against the Giants up in New York.
09:25Yeah.
09:252014.
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