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00:0037-year-old quarterback russell wilson is finalizing a deal to join cbs sports as an
00:06analyst on nfl today effectively ending his nfl playing career now he framed it as i'm putting
00:13a pause on my career but come on i mean you're 37 your play has dropped off over the last
00:20few
00:20years you've become an nfl vagabond with your your stops in pittsburgh and denver so i mean
00:28we all know that this is even if he's not saying it's a retirement he's basically retiring from
00:33the nfl i don't know philip rivers came back last year i could see a team being desperate
00:37leaving the door open but coming back to play but he's certainly unlikely to but i could see him
00:43coming back in certain scenarios so the discussion now becomes is he a hofer is he a hall of famer
00:51and you look at his numbers and the fact that he finished his career with nearly 47 000 passing
00:57yards 353 touchdowns 114 picks he had a career record of 121 80 and one went nine and eight in
01:07the playoffs he won a super bowl nearly won a second he was the nfl passer rating leader in 2015
01:14he had 10 pro bowl selections that jumps out at me and i know people think that pro bowls are
01:21a joke
01:22but i was comping him to eli manning now eli manning hasn't gotten in and a lot of people
01:27thought that he'd get in and he may ultimately get into the hall of fame yeah and he's won two
01:33super
01:33bowls versus russell wilson appearing into well russ's numbers are way better than eli correct yeah
01:39so my gut says that's because russell wilson is a hall of famer he's the most wins by a quarterback
01:45in
01:45his first nine seasons 98 it's too many accolades first quarterback in nfl history to start his career
01:51with nine straight winning seasons here's what i'd say put him in when he's about 64 you know what i
01:58mean like he's not a first ballot he's not a no-brainer make him wait make him wait make him
02:04wait then you can put him in so he's got to wait like two and a half decades yeah make
02:10him wait
02:11is he not a first ballot is he better than now this guy also not in and i just mentioned
02:16him
02:16is he better than philip rivers here's the old philip rivers philip rivers made the pro bowl eight
02:21times so russell's got more philip rivers has like no postseason success yeah yeah i don't know what his
02:29ultimate playoff record was but correct me i'm wrong did he go to did he even make it to an
02:34afc
02:34championship game maybe once he may have made it to one i'd have to look that up i don't know
02:41i don't know and i feel like a lot of people think philip rivers is a hall of famer i
02:45feel like
02:45same thing make them wait not a first ballot make them wait wait wait wait wait i feel like
02:51rivers might he might be more of a might be a compiler i don't know if he's a hall of
02:57famer he's
02:58he's a first ballot hall really good i don't know if he's quite a hall of famer if if he
03:05is he's gonna
03:06be waiting a long time to get in he's gonna get bypassed a bunch of the three guys i mentioned
03:13philip rivers eli manning russell wilson to me russell wilson would be at the top of getting
03:20into the hall of fame yeah maybe i kind of like i feel like russell wilson at times it at
03:27times you
03:27would say here are the top five quarterbacks in the nfl in a given year russell wilson was one of
03:33those guys i don't feel like eli ever really was no eli was like a middling quarterback who won two
03:40superbowls somehow he had some really good seasons but you never would say at the beginning of the
03:44year eli manning is the top quarterback this way and i don't know that you said that russell wilson
03:48was the top quarterback league because you had aaron rogers no but he had all these other quarterbacks
03:52but he usually was in the discussion you would way rather play eli i'd love to play in eli i
03:57knew he was
04:00to play in eli manning he didn't want to play ross that i would say is true in his prime
04:07i would say that is true i'd put him in you'd make him wait till he's 64 yeah just make
04:14him wait
04:15are you gonna make matt stafford wait
04:19yeah i don't know i don't know no because i don't know i think i think matt stafford is gonna
04:26have just
04:26absurd numbers and and this is maybe not fair to russell wilson but the recency him playing well
04:34towards the end of his career winning a super bowl towards the end of his career and who knows what
04:37happens this year um will make it an easier vote but look i said i'd vote russell wilson in i
04:44wouldn't
04:44even make him wait i would i think he's deserving it wouldn't be first ballot i don't think he has
04:49to
04:49wait till he's 68 years old i mean matthew stafford's numbers are absurd i i would put matthew
04:54stafford in pretty quickly why however he's only made three pro bowls ross crushes him in a lot of
05:00stats except for passing yards he doesn't crush him in passing yards i don't think he crushes him in
05:03touchdowns rush crushes him in qb rating rushing yards rushing but not touchdowns uh less way less
05:10interceptions more more playoff wins it's it's uh he's got a bet it's slightly better than two to
05:16one touchdown to interception ratio and i think russ is closer to three to one and after both of their
05:21primes russ was a better qb i mean i guess safford won an mvp recently but in 2018 you guys
05:27don't
05:27like compilers russ was the opposite of a compiler russ for about five years he was unbelievable uh i
05:33didn't want to play russ at times you think he should be in first ballot no no no no uh
05:37when he's
05:39you know second or third time okay that's fine i can wait three or four years i mean i might
05:43put him
05:43in first ballot depending on who else is up uh first ballot's rarefied air oh yeah that's for
05:48that's the aaron rod also the nfl is like a hall of pretty good i mean yeah they put in
05:54like 10 guys
05:54a year so many guys that doesn't offend me that much i don't think eli's all of famer if eli
06:01goes
06:01in it's kind of a joke um but people want to put him in there because of the superbowls but
06:06will he draft matt ryan he doesn't bet he doesn't pass the sniff test i think he's the worst of
06:14the
06:14four i mean made a superbowl but he's got big numbers big career numbers i'm gonna i'm gonna
06:20put him right on the hall of very good along with philip rivers they could go in together actually
06:25if you want they can go wilson's accomplishments trounce all those guys yeah other than eli's two
06:34superbowl wins two superbowl mvps his accomplishments and i know it's become a joke but making the pro
06:43bowl at some point used to mean something it used to be like yes it's become a joke recently but
06:49like matt ryan's four-time pro bowl russell wilson 10 i'm i'm putting him in i'm saying he's he's going
06:57in not on the first ballot though got to make it wait a little bit not until he's not until
07:03he's
07:03drawing social security checks like eb that's in his 60s getting in by the way does anybody think
07:10he's going to be good on the cbs sports pregame show yes you think he'll be good i think he'll
07:16be
07:16smooth will you actually tune in to watch it no i don't care about those shows i don't think we
07:20have
07:20an idea because most people thought robert griffin third was going to suck yeah and he was praised
07:26robert's a good talker i think russ will be good russ is he's a photogenic guy i think he's a
07:31good
07:31talker if he wants to be i think he'd be good i don't know i guess depends on how critical
07:38he wants
07:38to be who's on that show now is it james obviously james brown is boomer still there i guess i
07:44don't
07:44watch i haven't seen it forever i think they've done a lot of changes i don't even know bill cower
07:49still on it i don't think cower's still there he might be gone i don't i just don't know what
07:54about jj
07:54what i think you might be right on jj what i thought jj moved into the booth again i don't
08:00know i don't i don't consume this product james brown cower burleson russ okay so cower is still
08:07there yeah i think they booted out a couple people recently i think russ will be good no matt ryan
08:13left matt ryan's we're going we're going to the falcons again right yeah yeah i don't even just mean
08:19last year like a couple years ago because matt ryan was kind of an addition it's been a while
08:26i think i think russ will be good i think he was really good on the manny cast when he
08:31went on a
08:31few years ago russ has just got a if he's talking ball he'll be great he's got a little charisma
08:37to
08:37him yeah no he's great i mean that's it's he's a politician but he just can't be fake don't be
08:42fake
08:42right don't don't be like well he's a rod he's a rod don't be a try but a rod's really
08:47great when
08:47he's talking baseball that's what i'm saying when a rod is just like trying to sell you something
08:52and be a goofball he's terrible doing a shark tank bit yeah or whatever just when he's lying you can
08:57tell he's lying about something or just not being honest just if he's talking ball i think russ will
09:01be great yeah i think my a rod is a good comparison kind of like phony photogenic guys
09:10um that you know manipulative manipulative that's a hard word to say manipulative
09:17manipulative you gotta think about it yeah manipulative i i think yeah i think he'll be
09:20good if he wants to be i think he's a hoffer you could put him in i just don't put
09:26him in right
09:27away i think he's a hoffer put him in when he's 45 he's 37 right well that means he only
09:33has to wait
09:34like two three years you're fine right because it's a five-year window are you putting stafford in
09:39i think i'd put stafford in stafford into stafford in wilson in ryan no philip rivers
09:45philip rivers eventually that's gonna be tough but philip rivers in he probably gets in eventually
09:50philip rivers like in the afc was always always behind peyton manning and tom brady
09:57and so at best he was number three oh by the way big ben he was fourth i don't do
10:03what the fourth guy
10:04in the conference being a hall of famer that's why i said great era he's first ballot hall of
10:09really good i don't sleep on my man joe might be bit don't sleep on joe flacco yeah i mean
10:15i'm
10:15probably can name some other guys along the way too people goof on joe flacco okay but that guy
10:21is still playing in the nfl no i think it's awesome and he's over 40 years old and he's actually
10:28still pretty effective when he gets he's got almost 50 000 passing yards that's crazy i don't know if
10:33he's a hall a hofer but he's he's got a 500 record he's a hall really gooder i know that
10:40yeah
10:41and he's gonna play until he's 45 years old yeah no it's great i love the older i root for
10:46the old
10:46guys root for him i was speaking of old guys there must be something going on with malik neighbor's
10:53knee because the giants did you see the the all the the old beat up guys that they added yesterday
10:59odell beckham braxton barrios and juju smith schuster barrios i think they they envision
11:07was just a returner that's fine but there there's something going on with malik neighbor's recovery
11:13and his knee and him being ready for week one because you don't go out and sign all those guys
11:18if everything's great in your in your wide out room well he had a cleanup surgery after the initial
11:23surgery which is never a good sign and they lost wandale robinson who's jackson dark to throw the ball to
11:29i mean it's cam scataboo and his grills he's gonna throw it to isaiah likely to throw the ball a
11:35lot
11:35to isaiah likely a tight end he's gonna see a bunch of balls that was valdez tip tip me up
11:41i'll give
11:42valdez a lot of credit he knows he knows him his ravens because he tipped me off at isaiah likely
11:48when
11:48nobody knew who that dude was coming out of coastal carolina valdez was a tip of the spear
11:54i give him credit all right coming up later on the show we will talk to grant paulson of course
11:59one of our colleagues here at 106.7 the fan we'll talk to him at eight we'll talk about the
12:03success
12:04of the washington nationals even though they dropped one last night to the marlins and at 8 45
12:10we'll talk to daryl writer host on 92.3 the fan in cleveland get the fallout for the miles garrett
12:16deal
12:17away from cleveland to the rams we'll talk to him at 8 45 right here on the junks
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