00:00If Andy Burnham wins, that's a bad night for reform,
00:03because normally they would have won that by-election.
00:05Well, there we are.
00:05And it's a different story.
00:06That's it. What do you think?
00:07Because once Burnham beats you in Makerfield,
00:09he shows he could beat you to number 10.
00:11Exactly.
00:11No, I think that is a complete nonsense.
00:13The big danger in Makerfield, and we all know it,
00:15is the antics of restore.
00:18Now, no, it's the antics of...
00:205%.
00:21It's the antics, yes.
00:22But that's all that's separating.
00:24No, it's not.
00:24Yes, it is.
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