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00:00It's hot.
00:01Yeah.
00:01It's hot in my mouth.
00:03Well...
00:11Hey, what's going on, everybody?
00:12For First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans, and you're watching Hot Ones.
00:15It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings, and today we're joined by David
00:18Duchovny.
00:19He's a two-time Golden Globe Award winner who spent nine seasons chasing aliens as Fox
00:23Mulder in The X-Files and another seven playing a self-destructing novelist on Californication.
00:27He also has a shelf of published novels, a collection of poetry, as well as his fourth
00:31studio album as a musician on the way.
00:33It's called Prince of Pieces, set to release on August 13th.
00:36David Duchovny, welcome to the show.
00:39Thanks for having me.
00:39What's going through your head as you prepare to take on the Hot Ones gauntlet?
00:42Are you someone who enjoys a spicy meal?
00:44I...
00:45No, I'm not at all.
00:46I'm completely unprepared and ill-prepared to be doing this.
00:50I'm the last person on earth who should be doing this.
00:52I don't know.
00:53I don't know.
00:54We'll see how my body holds up.
00:57We will see.
00:58Are you ready to get started?
00:59I'm ready.
01:20What is this called?
01:22That's what Shishito said.
01:23That's funny.
01:24I'm laughing already.
01:27Anywhere I bite it.
01:28Anywhere.
01:28Okay.
01:37Can I ask you a question?
01:38Of course.
01:39How did you come up with this idea?
01:40Because I was doing a podcast for a couple of years and it is, you get stuck in these kind
01:46of grooves of like call and response and you do want to like smack somebody and get something
01:52new.
01:52And I found that, like, I would always want to ask really smart questions and that smart
01:59questions are the worst questions to ask.
02:01They have an answer.
02:03You know what I mean?
02:03Yeah.
02:04Right.
02:04Dumb questions are the best.
02:05Those are the...
02:06Well, I've got plenty of dumb questions for you today.
02:08You're ready.
02:10So, the title of your new album.
02:12Yeah.
02:12Prince of Pieces is one letter away from Prince of Peace, which is a pretty loaded pun even
02:17for an English major.
02:19What's the backstory behind the wordplay and title there?
02:21Well, I vote.
02:22I'm a fan of wordplay on Jesus.
02:26There is a pizzeria called Prince of Pizza.
02:32Nothing.
02:33Shout out.
02:33Nothing.
02:34Nothing.
02:35Prince of Pieces just came to me as in a dream, maybe driving, something.
02:39I was like, yeah, because we compartmentalize, like I'm a compartmentalized 21st century man.
02:44I've got walled off places in my soul.
02:47I've got walled off places in my being, so we're all kind of Prince and Princesses of
02:52Pieces here in our modern day life.
02:54So, I was like, okay, let's start with that and let's write a rock song about it.
03:03Feeling rather confident.
03:05I think it's false confidence.
03:07Many such cases after the first wing on this show.
03:09Shit.
03:11This next one is called Hot Bergeen.
03:13What?
03:14Hot Bergeen.
03:15That's, they got to go back to school on that one.
03:20So, at Princeton, your senior thesis was on Samuel Beckett's early novels.
03:24And then decades later, you have a podcast called Feel Better.
03:28Yeah.
03:29What was it about Beckett that followed you from a 21-year-old's thesis to a 60-something's
03:33podcast?
03:35People think of Beckett or his 20th century philosophy or existentialism being pessimistic,
03:40but in actuality, it's kind of optimistic through the lens of failure.
03:47I've never learned anything from winning.
03:49I've only learned from failing.
03:51I've only learned from difficult situations.
03:53Can you, in plain English, and succinctly as possible-
03:56That wasn't English.
03:58That's true.
03:59It wasn't English.
04:00In English and succinctly as possible, how would you distill the argument that you were
04:04making in your thesis, which was titled, The Schizophrenic Critique of Pure Reason
04:08and Beckett's Early Novels?
04:09Yeah, that was dumb.
04:13So, I was young, right?
04:15I was basically looking at, like, to distill it, it's like, the only sane response to an
04:22insane world is insanity.
04:24That would be the cliché.
04:25So, I was looking at these French, crazy French philosophers who were rebelling against
04:31Freudism, Freudian, like, neuroses, and saying, somebody like Schraber or somebody like these
04:37people that we think of as crazy are actually a conduit to the truth of what's really happening.
04:44Because all our neurosis is just, like, one shade of grey.
04:49They may be in pain, but they're living the entire Technicolor universe, you know?
04:54So, it's a little cavalier with respect to mental illness, you know?
04:59Because that is painful for people, very painful.
05:01But it was, like, trying to open a window into more color.
05:07Well, you know...
05:08I don't know.
05:09It wasn't a very good thesis.
05:13Well, you know, it's a thesis that I think we carry here, where the answer to insanity is
05:16simply more insanity.
05:18And if you're ready, we can continue that train with wing number three.
05:21I see what you did there.
05:22I was good.
05:22What's this one called?
05:23It's called pickled garlic sriracha.
05:26Not as funny as that's what Shishito said.
05:29At least it's honest.
05:34Already, I'm thinking something's happening.
05:41Oh, I feel that one a little more.
05:43You grew up in the Ukrainian village on Manhattan's east side.
05:47For the uninitiated, what's the ultimate order at Veselka on 2nd Avenue?
05:53I think it's cheese pierogi.
05:55I'd have to go with cheese pierogi.
05:57Potato pierogi, also good, but cheese pierogi for me.
06:01I understand that you and your friends would play baseball at the St. Mark's Church in the
06:05Bowery Cemetery, and then you would use the gravestones as bases.
06:09Just reach in here, but do you remember who was buried at home plate?
06:12I think it might have been Brevoort.
06:15There were all these Dutch names, right?
06:17Everybody is Dutch who's buried there.
06:19It's Peter Stuyvesant who's actually buried there.
06:21Stuyvesant might have been second base, but all Dutch names were the names of bases.
06:26What was the best concert or show that you got to see or at least hear through the walls
06:30when you were working as a bartender at Radio City Musical?
06:33That's a great question.
06:34I watched all, because we would set up and we would just have to serve drinks at intermission.
06:40So after we broke the stations down, we could go watch.
06:46The memory that sticks with me.
06:48I watched Prince do a sound check.
06:49He's got like a big overcoat on and he's walking through the seats at Radio City.
06:56And he goes to a spot and he goes, he flips his coat back and he goes...
07:02He flips his coat back up.
07:04And then he walks to another spot and he goes...
07:09He does this like 10.
07:10I'm just watching Prince move from space to space at Radio City Musical.
07:14Do a little shimmy.
07:15Pop it back on.
07:17That's all.
07:18That's...
07:19I didn't talk to him.
07:20I didn't ask him like, is that like, it's cool here.
07:22It's good.
07:23Good sound, you know?
07:24Uh, so that's, that was my Prince story.
07:31Alright.
07:34I feel like you're gonna sucker me, but...
07:37Never.
07:37One of these looks particularly sweaty.
07:40Uh oh.
07:42Bad omen.
07:43Yeah.
07:44So many of the monsters in the X-Files were played by real people using practical effects.
07:49Yeah.
07:49Which one looked like the gnarliest or freakiest when you finally saw them in full prosthetics on stage?
07:54Well, I'll tell you a story, um, the opposite of that.
07:58Which was, uh, we were doing some episode in like a perfect community.
08:03And the whole idea was that the, all the repressed shit, literally, of this community was going into the sewers.
08:12And it was creating this return of the repressed.
08:15It was creating this monster that was made out of everybody's repressed desires and everything.
08:20So it was a cool idea.
08:22But I had to see and fight off this poop monster, basically.
08:28That's what he looked like.
08:30He was poopish.
08:31I just always made me laugh.
08:33That was who I, that was, he was my mortal enemy for that day.
08:41Oh, fancy.
08:46I feel like this is the turn.
08:48I feel like this is when it starts to get weird.
08:50Mm-hmm.
08:51And then with this one in particular, it's got kind of a sweetness up front.
08:54And then you get the violence behind it.
08:58Violence?
09:00Oh, yeah.
09:01The story checks out.
09:04You know what you're talking about.
09:06Can you tell me about the time that Shaq checked out of a Laker game early to sit next to
09:11you courtside?
09:12Yeah.
09:13It was a highlight.
09:14I have the picture.
09:14I have it framed.
09:15I look like a child next to Shaq.
09:18I look like a little baby next to Shaq.
09:19We all do.
09:20So, so it starts, the game starts and, you know, one of the things about being in the, at least
09:28for me, about being in the front row there was like trying to catch the eye of players that I
09:33like and just like, you know, give them like, what's up?
09:36Like, like, see, you know, we know each other.
09:41So before the game, Shaq gives me the, and I'm like, Shaq.
09:47So I'm like, so the ball boy comes to me and it says, Shaq wants you to know that he
09:53doesn't watch the X-Files when you're not on it.
09:55I'm like, ah, tell him I don't watch the Lakers when he's injured.
09:59They go back and Shaq's like, ah, so it's like, ah, me and Shaq.
10:03So they kill Portland and Shaq gets taken out in the middle of the fourth quarter because it's, it's over.
10:10But instead of going to the bench, Shaq sat next to me and I'm like, me and Shaq are going
10:15to be friends now.
10:15Look at this.
10:17I said, you really, you know, I didn't say this because not as lame, but I basically said you kicked
10:23Sabonis' ass tonight.
10:25And he was like, Sabonis don't want no part of me.
10:27I was like, well, yeah, that's kind of what I was saying.
10:30But that was like the end, you know, and I thought me and Shaq were really going to have something.
10:34So, Shaq, I'm still here.
10:36If you're watching this.
10:37I'm still here.
10:43This is the situation.
10:48Oh, there's going to be trouble.
10:51I can tell.
10:53So when you were a TA at Yale, I heard you say that you were too much of a performer
10:58as a teacher and too much of a teacher as an actor.
11:01Can you unpackage that?
11:03You know, acting is about reaction and about instinct.
11:07It's not about intellectual.
11:08It's not about thinking.
11:10It's about feeling.
11:11So I was coming into it.
11:12In fact, that's why I became an actor was I think I want to educate that part of myself.
11:16That was the feeling part of myself.
11:18Aside from whatever would happen, making a living, having a career, whatever, I think just naturally, I gravitated towards this
11:26space because I wanted to educate my emotions the way my head had been educated.
11:30So there I was, but I was just using my head because that's all I had been taught to use.
11:36You know, acting is just reaction.
11:37Just like gut it out.
11:38Just try and educate your gut.
11:39Try and listen to your gut.
11:41Try and work with your gut, which is probably what I'm doing here.
11:44I know.
11:45Certainly, I have an educated gut over here.
11:47Later on.
11:48Yeah, yeah.
11:48Later on, my gut will have a lot to say.
11:55Eight Dragons.
11:57This is the sweaty one.
12:06I bet this is a lot like Five where it has a very sweet and then because of the texture,
12:15it's almost candied.
12:16You know, it's kind of like a spicy candy in a way.
12:18Yeah.
12:19But then.
12:20Oh, there it is.
12:22It's happening.
12:23There it is.
12:24All right.
12:25A feeling I know all too well.
12:27Sneaky fucker.
12:28As a novelist yourself, was there an aspect of playing a novelist in Californication that hit closest to home?
12:34Like in what way do you most relate to Hank as a writer?
12:37What I always responded to with Hank was we had this, Hank had this thing he would do after every,
12:46when he finished.
12:48He would have whiskey, weed and Warren Zevon.
12:51And so I just, that idea of like having gone through this gauntlet of trying to write something.
12:57Building a reward.
12:58Yeah.
12:59And just like to sit back and go, well, we did that.
13:03You know, now we can, we can treat ourselves.
13:06All right.
13:06Well, you know, we're only three wings away.
13:08Yeah.
13:08A little weed and Warren Zevon ourselves.
13:11If you're ready to move on, this next one is called Da Bomb Beyond Insanity.
13:15I've been worried about this one, I think.
13:17For good reason.
13:28Yeah, there's something there.
13:31Oh, geez, yeah.
13:33Yeah.
13:38Yeah, you see, I was getting cocky.
13:41It humbles us all.
13:42Yeah.
13:43This sauce.
13:45Yeah.
13:46Okay.
13:47Do I look like you right now?
13:50I hope I look like you, by the way.
13:53I hope I look like you.
13:54What do I look like?
13:55You look sad.
13:57It's a lot of years doing this, you know?
13:59But you still-
14:00This sauce in particular.
14:01You're still so good at it though.
14:03You're, you're, you're, you're there.
14:05You're present.
14:05I'm present.
14:06I'm connected.
14:06I've done so many interviews with people.
14:08Yeah.
14:09People that get lauded for being interviewers and they're nowhere to be found.
14:13They're not present.
14:14You are present.
14:14So thank you for that.
14:16It's hot.
14:16Yeah.
14:17It's hot in my mouth.
14:18Well, you and me both.
14:21There's a presence and an awareness and a shared experience there.
14:25Okay.
14:26But-
14:26Do you mind if I have a little help?
14:27No, please.
14:28Cheers.
14:33Do you have-
14:35Do you have a fondest memory from playing in those MTV Rock and Jock games, you know?
14:43Yes.
14:43It is kind of crazy how you're on a softball team with like Frank Thomas and Ken Griffey Jr.
14:48And then you're playing basketball alongside Clifford Robinson and Queen Latifah.
14:51Yes.
14:52Like, what do you remember about those experiences?
14:53So much.
14:55Because-
14:56Oh, geez.
14:57Because, uh, because, uh, I was big.
15:00I wanted to be an athlete.
15:03That would have been my dream.
15:04So, the whole MTV Rock and Jock thing was a fantasy for me.
15:09But the basketball one, Cliff Robinson was on my team.
15:12And Boyz II Men was on the other team.
15:15One of the Boyz II Men, do you know the term Low Bridge?
15:18No, put me on game.
15:19Low Bridge is like-
15:21Can I stand up?
15:22Yeah, go ahead.
15:23Like, if somebody goes up to dunk or for a layup, and you kind of like-
15:28You take their legs out, you know, you kind of get low.
15:31It's a dirty play.
15:33So, uh, Boyz II Men, Low Bridge, Cliff Robinson.
15:37Whoa.
15:38Not all three of them.
15:39One of them.
15:40I don't know who it was.
15:41The bad boy.
15:42Wanye?
15:43That I know one of their names.
15:44Cliff Robinson comes back.
15:47And he's like, I'm going to fuck up Boyz II Men.
15:49It's like, all of a sudden, Cliff Robinson is going to beat up Boyz II Men.
15:55And we're like, Cliff, no.
15:56He's like, could have ended his career.
15:58It was a shitty move.
15:59It was a bad move.
16:01Because Cliff went down on his hip.
16:04And I really thought he was going to go after Boyz II Men.
16:06But he-
16:07He's cutthroat.
16:07He controlled himself.
16:08Those Rock and Jock games are cutthroat.
16:10Yeah, right?
16:11It could have been so great if Cliff Robinson went after Boyz II Men.
16:15And also, Reggie Miller's on the other team.
16:17And I'm a Knick fan.
16:19And I hate-
16:19You wanted vengeance.
16:20You wanted revenge.
16:21I hate-
16:21I was going to fuck up Reggie Miller.
16:23So I get the ball and I'm like, I do something and I pull up for a jumper and I
16:27hit it.
16:27I'm like, oh, thank God.
16:29Fuck you, Reggie Miller.
16:30And, uh, buzzer sounds like a minute later.
16:34And I'm like, yeah, fuck you, Reggie Miller.
16:37Reggie Miller comes up and he's like, hey man, me and my sister are such big fans, could we have
16:41a picture?
16:41And I'm like, ah, Reggie Miller.
16:44My man, Reggie Miller.
16:45Yeah, sure.
16:46So, me and Reggie are fine.
16:53A little burpy, but here we go.
17:00I'm nervous about this one.
17:03Do you ever feel it on the tip of your nose?
17:05So-
17:06Itchy?
17:08At this point, like, my lips are numb and then my throat-
17:13throat.
17:15You're a magician.
17:16Yeah.
17:17What happened to my throat just when you said that?
17:19Yeah.
17:21So I've heard you say that the Larry Sanders show is the only show that you've ever binged.
17:25Is that still the case?
17:26And what was it about Larry that had that kind of magnetism for you?
17:29So I was up in Vancouver working on the X-Files and I just said, please just send me those
17:36tapes.
17:37And that sound, remember the theme song?
17:39Da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
17:41Like, that would just make me happy.
17:43So I got to do Sanders and I got to meet Gary and we do a scene.
17:47He does this, which is a Gary thing.
17:49Like, the director calls cut and Gary goes,
17:56How old are you?
17:58And I said, uh, 32.
18:00And he goes, what took you so long?
18:05And just saying that makes me want to tear up because like, you know, like to be, it was like
18:12being anointed by the king of comedy.
18:14You know, like he's saying, like, you're doing something, you know, the greatest compliment I've ever gotten from somebody who
18:23I respected in that way.
18:25And the way it came was just the greatest way.
18:28And he was just a prince that way.
18:31Larry Sanders show.
18:32Back then would have avoided Hot Ones.
18:34But you didn't today.
18:35Yeah.
18:36You can't.
18:37But thankfully there's only one more wing to go.
18:40Who is this guy?
18:40Who is this?
18:45Yeah, sure.
18:48All right.
18:49So, okay.
18:50Dab it.
18:50Dab it.
18:52Textbook.
18:52Perfect.
18:58I'm sure I'm going to regret that.
19:01And with that, the wings of death are behind us.
19:04As we've learned today, you've lived a very rich, artistic and creative intellectual life from Bohemian New York City to
19:13the corridors of academia to the heights of Hollywood.
19:17I'm curious at this stage in your career, what are the notes from your younger self that play in your
19:23head?
19:23Like, do you have any foundational advice for someone in their 20s, whether it's as simple as wear SPF or
19:31as heady as read more Beckett?
19:33Hmm.
19:35That's such a, that's a good question.
19:37Um.
19:40I think.
19:45Just embrace the shadow.
19:49However that happens.
19:51Just embrace the opposite.
19:54Embrace the darkness.
19:55Embrace the darkness.
19:56It's not dark.
19:57It's the richness.
19:59And don't be afraid because it's all going to end at one point.
20:02And you know what?
20:03We certainly embraced the darkness today.
20:06We did.
20:06But look at you, David Duchovny, taking on the wings of death and living to tell the tale.
20:10Now there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you.
20:13This camera, this camera, or this camera.
20:15Let the people know what you have going on in your life.
20:18I've got, I've got this album, Prince of Pieces coming out.
20:22Um, and uh, I just finished up a movie that I wrote called, uh, I don't remember.
20:30Um.
20:32Soapbox.
20:33And I was able to act with my daughter, which was just a dream come true.
20:38For me, not for her.
20:40That's all I can think of.
20:41Uh, uh, a book of poetry is out right now.
20:44Blah, blah, blah.
20:45You know.
20:45Like if, if you like my stuff, you like my stuff.
20:47You'll go find it.
20:55I enjoyed.
20:57I mean, regardless of that stuff, I enjoyed the, the, the interview.
21:01Oh, thank you very much.
21:02And enjoying the ice cream.
21:03Yeah.
21:04Okay.
21:07Oh, shit.
21:08I enjoyed it.
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