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00:00this whole room wants lebron back right everybody wants lebron back
00:06would you take draymond green back if it meant you could have lebron back or would you take
00:11draymond green in the first place i should say if it meant you could have lebron because this
00:16was thrown out on kevin o'connor's show all right here we go hit it i think it's worth wondering
00:21if
00:21draymond green could follow lebron wherever he goes i feel like a lot of people point to him
00:26opting out purely about golden state having flexibility to sign lebron give him more money
00:32also bring back draymond on a discounted deal and that might be all it is if lebron doesn't go to
00:38golden state draymond re-signs in golden state and that's that he teams back up with stephan curry
00:43and steve kerr and they roll the ball out again next season with whatever roster they have but
00:48clay already left who's to say draymond wouldn't leave either he has talked openly about how he's
00:54understanding about how in this league anybody can be traded he understands why the warriors
01:00shopped him around for janice and akupo earlier in the year it didn't happen but you're telling me
01:06draymond green is gonna sign a two or three year deal with golden state with no trade clause then
01:13six months from now possibly be moved somewhere that he doesn't want to go because the warriors
01:18don't want to trade jimmy butler they'd rather just deal draymond instead i feel like there's a
01:22possibility draymond could decide to go wherever lebron goes
01:28so he is one of the greatest villains in sports history here i mean joe kim noah even made peace
01:34it seems draymond green wants no part of peace with the city of cleveland in his eyes he believes
01:41we cost him a championship correct or correct that's correct yeah but it's weird because fans hate him
01:48back him and lebron that beef like got squashed pretty quickly well they're friends they're
01:52business partners and then they became friends and business partners yeah so it was it was always
01:57very odd like well like those guys were heated heated rivals and we thought could be the next huge
02:03rivalry and then they said no we gotta hug it out i'm not above i'm not above burying hatchets
02:08i mean some of your best friendships from childhood especially with guys yeah you go you try to break
02:15each other's noses and if you do that fine if you don't do that there's a lot of there's a
02:19lot of
02:19respect i found growing up that you get from another person when you get in a fight with them i'm
02:24not
02:24condoning it but it seems to be the truth draymond green and lebron at one point obviously didn't get
02:30along now they do there can be respect out of that both both multiple time champions uh both great
02:35players obviously lebron's better but draymond green i think was a second round pick who ended up
02:40becoming a hall of famer uh so i'm sure there's a mutual respect there and again they are business
02:45partners that pointed out he is still persona non grata in the city of cleveland so it is a legitimate
02:54question to ask people because one of the things that have been brought up so many times is that you
02:59don't want the circus quote unquote not you but i'm talking about the people who don't want lebron
03:03they don't want to bring in the circus back to town whatever that circus is they don't want it back
03:07to town they they've made the argument no more drama we don't need the drama having fights over
03:13draymond green might feel a little dramatic does it not does that not play into the hands of a lebron
03:19hater a person who doesn't want lebron there's not that many of them or if there are they've been
03:24quiet and maybe they're waiting for him to choose somewhere else so they can go after us and say
03:28i can't believe you guys licked this man's boots and he didn't come back and now you have to tuck
03:33your
03:33tail between your legs which you know that's going to happen if he picks somewhere else
03:36we're going to catch a lot of hell over that fine is draymond green a bit too far or it's
03:42like
03:42hey whatever all hands on deck you know what's so funny i'm looking at it more from just a basketball
03:47perspective than all that other stuff that that you're focused on and you're right a lot of fans
03:52big what because i don't think a lot of people know the basketball perspective so basketball wise
03:56i can tell you like he he is uh he is a shell of himself offensively when it comes the
04:02guy can't
04:03make a layup he has has no jump shooting capabilities he was always rough around the
04:08edges when it came to that you know still has great vision can feed guys and he will play his
04:15ass off like that is something which everybody said we didn't have guys that could do that in the
04:19playoffs that is somebody who will sprint back on defense uh that is somebody who what he's not
04:25arguing with officials obviously uh that is somebody who will who has the quote dog in them that
04:30everybody says our team doesn't have but offensively you do not have to guard boy that's
04:34true he doesn't he does what he considers fools he doesn't suffer him and he will get obviously
04:41jordan pool found out he will get physical yeah yeah he will he will get in somebody's face they
04:47don't have really any of those guys is there a possibility out of how many fans out of 10 fans
04:52i love
04:52to ask these sort of things obviously and i'm sure you and keith text each other about it
04:56out of 10 fans how many think the calves are quote unquote soft nine we go to the phones right
05:02now
05:02i know they want to talk to you about chris brown i got to do this quick i'll put you
05:05guys back on
05:06hold maurice in the bay area listening on the free odyssey app do you or do you not believe the
05:10calves are soft yes or no uh yes they are soft okay i'm gonna put him on hold mike and
05:16avon lake do
05:17you feel that the calves are soft or not soft yes or no soft okay mike and avon lake says
05:22they're soft
05:23cliff and aurora congratulations on all your success calves soft or not soft soft all right
05:29that's three in a row right there off the tippy top right there on the things draymond green is a
05:34lot of things he ain't soft draymond green could be a dangerous individual he has fought on the floor
05:39he has fought at michigan state house parties is there a chance now this is galaxy brain is there a
05:47chance he's just what the doctor ordered for this team think about it think about it for a moment
05:51we love second chances in this country everybody there were so many people you saw the video of
05:56joe kim noah walking around and going okay it's a good city and and hugging fans and shaking hands
06:01and things like that and a lot of people buried the hatchet with joe kim noah not everybody it's not
06:06a
06:06perfect world but a lot of people buried the hatchet there what if draymond green now hear me out on
06:10this what if he comes with lebron and he's exactly what lima said he's not the type of player
06:17that he used to be he is stiff he's beat up the years have been tough on him he's had
06:24to sacrifice
06:25a lot to get these teams to help get these teams to championships he is not the type of staff
06:30or or a
06:31lot of other players out there there's a lot of things about draymond i can respect because i think
06:34he's self-made and put this out there if he comes back here and he brings that edge could you
06:41see him
06:43dare i say become a fan favorite if lebron can keep him in line if lebron can make sure
06:51that all that's there if they go and they are in an nba finals i can't guarantee they're going to
06:56win
06:56but if they go to an nba finals and this team is no longer seen as soft like hey you
07:01want to go ahead
07:01and you want to take take little liberties on on donovan you want to take the liberties on james
07:06harden or in fact if you if you even dare to come at lebron the man with the edge is
07:12coming
07:12off the bench oh yeah now he's not worried about technical fouls there is a little marty mcsorley
07:17to him to that because he obviously doesn't care about technical fouls when he's angry there's a
07:22dirtiness there and i'm sure that every team that doesn't have him hates him and i'm sure in golden
07:27state they probably found ways to jump through several hoops right and i think we would i i have
07:34to ask that question could he actually be a good thing if lebron were back because the whole argument
07:40was before we can't just have lebron back because there's too much drama and you and i said what
07:45drama he's 41 years old there's no drama him staying or leaving anymore he's at the end of his
07:50career well we don't want lebron back for this reason that reason and all these other reasons we
07:53don't want it to be a great big love thing lebron hey this is a chance to change how he's
07:59seen
07:59how do you think that we're talking about ending lebron's career in cleveland doing it the right way
08:04he's not beloved in some of these other cities not beloved in los angeles he's beloved here this
08:10would be the right place for him to end his career considering golden state if they didn't get him
08:14they just move on they never had him same with minnesota same with philadelphia all right i'm saying
08:18a lot of words but let me just put it down to it could lebron help draymond green be a
08:24cavalier
08:25and could calves fans actually accept that the general public yeah you know i don't think they would at
08:31first i think that they would be a leery of him at first i think they would enjoy him in
08:35a lot of
08:35ways because they'd see a guy with passion on the court who is going to back down to nobody and
08:41who's
08:41going to get in guys faces like we asked if who's going to do that without uh kenny atkinson's not
08:45really that guy who's going to do it is it gonna be the calves assistant coaches no draymond will
08:50will get into it he'll get into it with steph curry he doesn't care that's that's kind of been
08:53the mo he's got into it with steve kerr like he has no problem doing that okay now some people
08:58216-474-0092 would you take draymond green back if it meant would you take lebron back
09:03everybody would take lebron back if you had to bring draymond green with him is that too much
09:10are you going you know what all hands on deck let's see it it does have the makings in for
09:14a penny in
09:14for a pound honestly kind of kind of be a circus now if you guys said the calves can't win
09:19the
09:19championship anyway then why not enjoy lebron's last season or two and then you know um somebody who's
09:27on inside the nba who's like a cast member that's what i'm saying doing doing interviews
09:33you know shoot arounds every day and making headlines i i mean that would be entertaining
09:40you guys cannot deny sports is supposed to be on i think i might there's only one team wins a
09:45championship every year considering owen would you could see you would you have considered it before
09:51uh probably not before because he's hated yeah he really is and there's so many things that he
09:57can't be the only move that's made but it can be oh yeah but he he can bring in a
10:02very strong
10:03negative energy if you allow him to like that jordan pool thing got ugly who are we moving off the
10:09roster well probably you're looking at moving up what jared allen's because that's the guy i want him
10:13to come in and mentor and make him tougher see that's i think a lot of people don't have said
10:18like jared allen is the first guy you move off of but jared allen is four years now he's got
10:23great
10:23vibes now he's not seen as the toughest guy out there he's not a guy that's going to scare the
10:28bejesus out a lot of teams but he's still a guy that that's a really good jesus scare well yeah
10:34but
10:35he's a really good basketball player too like jared allen is the better player now instead of draymond
10:39green am i wrong i mean draymond green is again he's a shell of his former self so as of
10:43right now
10:44jared is the better player but i don't think you can keep all these guys around you have to move
10:48on
10:48from somebody of that core four that you have so jared would probably be again the odd man yeah i
10:53will
10:53say draymond's got all the tricks um he still can get up for big games now jared allen had had
10:59some
10:59nice game sevens against toronto and against detroit he did draymond has these moments where he
11:07dials it up and looks and looks like in his prime draymond that's what makes it a difficult
11:11question it's just going to be few and far between it's not going to be every game well that that's
11:15what makes it a difficult question before jared was a fan favorite and now i think that he's gained
11:20so much respect because before it was like well he's a fan favorite but if we have to move on
11:25we're
11:26going to trade away jared allen now he's gained so much respect for some of the dirty work that he's
11:30had to do some of the things that we don't always see i i think that we've given him plenty
11:34of
11:34recognition for a guy who plays way above his contract i mean you're getting a great savings
11:39for the output that jared allen gives you and to just get rid of him and then to bring in
11:45draymond
11:45green i don't think that's something that people are lining up for but if it meant lebron for the
11:50next year possibly two which is another conversation we'll get into later on is that something you're
11:54willing to do because draymond green is a dangerous man and people in the nba know that they have
12:00to watch their p's and q's on the floor when they're around draymond green that might actually
12:05hear me out help spacing for james harden help spacing for donovan mitchell for evan mobley for
12:12lebron that's a possibility anthony and aurora you're first up on the fan hello anthony hey how
12:18you doing today we're doing wonderful go ahead yeah i would love to have draymond just uh have him
12:24practice with mobley just a ton of love well i like that as long as he doesn't sock him in
12:31the
12:31face in front of god and everybody i think i'll be okay you get one no you can't did he
12:36break his
12:36jaw okay i don't need that but you know playful blows gotta get them tougher i'm sick internal
12:43watching mobley and allen get pushed on the foul line underneath the hoop someone's got a gross
12:49backbone well draymond's certainly not going to take that you're right now i can't ask for the
12:53minutes though anthony and thank you for the call and i don't think anthony is really saying this
12:57least i hope not you can't expect the minutes out of draymond green that you've got out of
13:00jared allen and evan mobley that that's an impossibility at his age and the miles that are
13:04on him but a guy who's coming off the bench possibly like yeah i'm sure there's seven minutes a game
13:11last year who draymond draymond that's actually not too bad i i thought he was i thought he was kind
13:15of in the teens i'm surprised he was at 27 again i don't get to see a lot of golden
13:18state obviously
13:19so i'm pointing out like yeah you'd start him in a couple of games because it's just how the calves
13:25go but he wouldn't be a starter but i i do think that he's a guy who can you mean
13:30you want an edge
13:31you want an edge of nastiness there they can't all be they can't all be boy scouts guys i they're
13:36a
13:36very likable group of guys to the point that they're so likable that people have actually turned
13:41on them because they don't think they're tough enough to get to where they need to go which i fought
13:45against that narrative i fought against it but when he gets swept by the knicks i guess i have
13:49to be quiet about that draymond in he he adds a certain level of dangerousness he adds a certain
13:57level of obviously there's gravitas he's a future hall of famer there's at no point would their season
14:02become boring no i don't care what their record was oh if he felt bored he'd probably do something
14:07just because he's bored there'd be no malaise this malaise we've had around the calves regular seasons
14:13i think that changes lebron here in what could be his final year and then somebody like draymond
14:17green thrown to the mix if things go to hell then he can make things far worse yeah and not
14:23only
14:23people are going to be volatile not only did you make this team worse you brought draymond green
14:27here and he made it far worse because there was a time i didn't think there was ever a chance
14:31in
14:31hell draymond green would ever play for the cleveland cavaliers because i think you kicked it around a
14:35couple years ago about possibly trading for draymond or something like that and i didn't i thought he'd
14:40sooner retire than play here so if this is a possibility i'm open-minded to it
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