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Sunday, June 1st, 1913

Chief of Detectives Gives Out Statement Relative to Transfer of Prisoner From the Tower to Headquarters

FURTHER QUESTIONING IS PLANNED BY DETECTIVES

No Arrangement Yet Made for Negro to Confront Frank—Report of Finding Girl's Purse Proves Without Foundation

The prosecuting officials connected with the Phagan case all denied Saturday evening that the state's theory of the murder has been changed by anything that the negro sweeper Conley has said, but the fact that the negro was transferred t police headquarters, where he can be freely examined by the detectives, seems to show that the officials are not fully satisfied with Conley's story of the crime as it now stands.

Conley was permitted to leave the jail on an order signed by Judge L. S. Roan, of the superior court. Conley was perfectly willing to accompany the officers anywhere they desired to take him.

From the jail he was carried by Deputy Newt Garner to the solicitor's office, and it is said that only after the solicitor had talked with the negro two hours and gone over all of the "rough places in the story" was the decision to take him to police headquarters, rather than the jail reached.

REASON FOR TRANSFER.

Two reasons are assigned by Detective Chief N. A. Lanford for the removal of Conley from the Fultin [sic] county jail back to the state cell in police headquarters, where he was imprisoned for more than three weeks.

The first, according to the chief, is that Conley requested that he be transferred back, stating in explanation or his request that he was greatly annoyed Friday night by persons who came to visit in the tower.

A second reason advanced by the chief is that the detectives themselves prefer to have Conley at police headquarters where he will be easily accessible at any time they desire to further interview him in regard to the Phagan murder.

"There is so much red tape at the jail concerning the admission of officers to see prisoners," said the chief. "We wanted Conley where we could get to him at any time we thought advisable."

Chief Lanford says he reported to Police Chief Beavers what Conley had said and the latter then went before Judge L. S. Roan and obtained the order for the transfer.

Conley still maintains that he is ready and anxious to face Leo M. Frank, superintendent of the National Pencil factory, with his accusations.

The detectives and other state authorities are also endeavoring to bring the two principal figures in the murder mystery together in order that they may watch the demeanor of the two men, when the negro sweeper accuses the factory superintendent of being the slayer of Mary Phagan.

MUST GET CONSENT.

The detectives will be unable to stage the dramatic meeting without the consent of Frank's attorney, Luther Z. Rosser, however, and there is little probability of his going into the matter before Monday.
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00:00Lanford tells why Conley was placed in police station, Atlanta Journal Sunday, June 1, 1913.
00:06Chief of detectives gives out statement relative to transfer of prisoner from the tower to
00:11headquarters. Further questioning is planned by detectives. No arrangement yet made for Negro to
00:16confront frank report of finding girls purse proves without foundation. The prosecuting
00:22officials connected with the Fagan case all denied Saturday evening that the state's theory of the
00:27murder has been changed by anything that the Negro sweeper Conley has said but the fact that
00:32the Negro was transferred to police headquarters where he can be freely examined by the detectives
00:38seems to show that the officials are not fully satisfied with Conley's story of the crime as
00:43it now stands. Conley was permitted to leave the jail on an order signed by Judge L.S. Roan of
00:49the
00:49Superior Court. Conley was perfectly willing to accompany the officers anywhere they desired to
00:54take him. From the jail he was carried by Deputy Newt Garner to the solicitor's office and it is
01:00said that only after the solicitor had talked with the Negro two hours and gone over all of the
01:05rough places in the story was the decision to take him to police headquarters rather than the jail
01:10reached. Reason for transfer. Two reasons are assigned by Detective Chief N.A. Lanford for the
01:16removal of Conley from the Fulton County jail back to the state cell in police headquarters where he was
01:21imprisoned for more than three weeks. The first according to the chief is that Conley requested
01:27that he be transferred back stating an explanation or his request that he was greatly annoyed Friday
01:32night by persons who came to visit in the tower. A second reason advanced by the chief is that the
01:37detectives themselves prefer to have Conley at police headquarters where he will be easily accessible
01:42at any time they desire to further interview him in regard to the Fagan murder. There is so much red
01:49tape
01:49at the jail concerning the admission of officers to see prisoners, said the chief. We wanted Conley
01:54where we could get to him at any time we thought advisable. Chief Lanford says he reported to police
01:59Chief Beavers what Conley had said and the latter then went before Judge L.S. Roan and obtained the order
02:05for the transfer. Conley still maintains that he is ready and anxious to face Leo M. Frank,
02:10superintendent of the National Pencil Factory, with his accusations. The detectives and other state
02:15authorities are also endeavoring to bring the two principal figures in the murder mystery together
02:20in order that they may watch the demeanor of the two men. When the Negro sweeper accuses the factory
02:26superintendent of being the slayer of Mary Fagan, must get consent. The detectives will be unable to stage
02:33the dramatic meeting without the consent of Frank's attorney Luther Z. Rosser, however, and there is little
02:38probability of his going into the matter before Monday. It was rumored efforts might be made to transfer
02:43Frank to police headquarters, where he would be under the jurisdiction of the city authorities and not
02:47the sheriff, but the rumor is groundless. Solicitor Dorsey refuses to comment on the statement of Conley
02:53as made to him in a two-hours conference at his office Saturday, closely examined. It is understood
02:59that the solicitor vigorously cross-examined Conley and made the Negro go into the most minute detail on
03:04every point in the case. The Negro is said to have made no important variations from the story he told
03:09the detectives Thursday, and the story he recounted with illustrations, when he was carried to the
03:14scene of the tragedy on Friday afternoon. Chief of police J. L. Beavers, who heard Conley's recital
03:20of his part in the tragedy at the pencil factory, was present at the examination before solicitor
03:25Dorsey, and together the officials looked for flaws and rough places in the story. Conley's admission
03:31that he was an accessory after the fact of the crime has naturally made him the principal witness in
03:36the case, and the detectives are making every effort to secure corroborative statements, which
03:41bear even on the seemingly unimportant points of his sensational recital. Detectives Campbell and
03:47Starnes were present at the latter part of the Negro's examination by Chief Beavers and the solicitor,
03:53and they, it is said, will work towards securing evidence of a corroborating nature.
03:57Attorney William M. Smith has been requested by relatives of Conley to look after the Negro's
04:02interests, and he was admitted to the conference for a short time. Mr. Smith made no objection to
04:08the transfer of the Negro to police headquarters, and says that he is willing for Conley to remain
04:12there as long as the detectives desire to keep him. He is also desirous of bringing about the
04:17meeting of Conley and the man he accuses of the crime, mesh bag still missing. Persistent rumor that
04:23the missing mesh bag, said to have been carried by Mary Fagan on the day she met her death,
04:27and been located by the police, was silenced late Saturday night when Detective Hollingsworth
04:33asserted that the bag pawned by a Negro Wednesday and thought at first to have been the Fagan girls
04:37had been identified as the property of another. The Negro pawned the purse with Barney Morris,
04:4392 Decatur Street, and the latter instantly became suspicious. As a result, the Negro was quizzed,
04:50but proved conclusively that the bag had been given to him by a woman for whom he worked.
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