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WHEN?! Is Christian Gonzalez waiting until the Devon Witherspoon contract is resolved? 'Game of Chicken' between the two corners? Concern for Gonzo if he misses training camp?
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00:00Have you ever heard the expression, mo' money, mo' problems?
00:04Yeah, Maya Angelou.
00:04Yeah, I believe Biggie said that.
00:06Yes, Biggie did say that.
00:07Yeah, and I'm like, guess what?
00:09I'll take all the problems that come with having that money.
00:11Right, I'll try it out.
00:12So I was going to say it begs the question, when is the Christian Gonzalez deal going to be done?
00:20That's another frustrating thing.
00:22I think I've been frustrated about Jalen Brown in this whole situation.
00:25But this is so frustrating with, you know, because I'll keep reiterating for maybe some people who don't understand how
00:32the world of football works.
00:34The market was set with Trey McBride.
00:38I'm excuse me, Trent McBride.
00:40McDuffie, excuse me, Trent McDuffie.
00:42I was thinking of the tight end in Arizona because we were talking about Kyle Pitts.
00:46Second highest paid, I believe.
00:47Yeah, with Trent McDuffie.
00:49Kittle number one.
00:49Yes.
00:50Trent McDuffie set the market.
00:53We know what his contract is.
00:54So if I'm a Patriots fan, I'm looking and going, okay, this is where we start.
01:01Why isn't there be any whispers?
01:04Because maybe then I would look at Christian Gonzalez a little different if there was a whisper or rumor out
01:10there that the Patriots offered him more money and more guaranteed money than what Trent McDuffie got to make him
01:17the highest paid corner.
01:18Right, because then the entire conversation shifts back against the player and towards the ownership group in support of the
01:24Patriots.
01:25And then if some people said, well, he's trying to be the highest defensive player in the non-quarterback in
01:31the league, I would laugh and I'd say, come on.
01:33I mean, we know that that was Will Anderson Jr. who just, you know, took that mantle.
01:39You're not worth $50 million a year, Christian Gonzalez.
01:43I think you're a great player.
01:44You should be the highest cornerback in the league.
01:47Is it a big deal to you if he misses training camp?
01:50No.
01:51No, it's not a big deal to me.
01:52Not at all.
01:53It's a big deal if the organization is really playing games with it.
01:56That's more of a big deal.
01:58Like, so if he's missing training camp because the organization is refusing to come to the table with anything approaching
02:03a fair market value deal, then the organization looks bad.
02:07And if then he gets the big deal, which I inevitably believe will happen, he will not miss the season.
02:13I think you have to get to 10 weeks to get the season to count.
02:16Yeah, I think it's, yeah, I can't remember what it was.
02:17They're not going to do that.
02:18I can't, like, I can't even imagine this organization doing that.
02:21But then, let's say he signs at the end of camp, and then he blows out, like, he has a
02:26hammy issue or something because he wasn't in with the team all summer.
02:29Right.
02:29Which has happened.
02:31Right.
02:31Right.
02:31With the player previously.
02:33So I just don't, honestly, I'm not a good negotiator.
02:36Look at my contract.
02:36You'd be happy to see it.
02:38Like, I'm not saying that I would be a great owner of a team.
02:43I just, as Wiggy always points out, with, like, Kyle Schwarber in baseball, you had Alonso.
02:50Like, there is the exact number where you know it's going to fall between 140 and 155 for five years.
02:55That's it.
02:56So what are you offering three years and 75 for?
02:58That makes no sense.
02:59And so you hear it with Christian Gonzalez.
03:01You know he's got, this is what McDuffie got.
03:04Uh-huh.
03:04The league, I believe he's better than McDuffie.
03:07Right.
03:07But if you want to enter with what McDuffie got.
03:09Right.
03:10Then you work backwards from there.
03:11The only reason why you offer less is because you don't believe he's that, he's to the level of the
03:17player who set the market.
03:18Here's the other issue I have with this, Greg.
03:20And when we talk about this, you guys think I'm crazy.
03:23But we'll know.
03:26Is when you drag him out like this and you start to penny pinch him and maybe think like, oh,
03:33maybe he's not worth that value.
03:36If I'm Drake, man, I'm on this team.
03:38You don't think that there's a little bit of a piece of me.
03:42My agent goes, do you think they're going to do that with you?
03:45Because, let's be honest.
03:46If I ask you the question, who are the top five best quarterbacks in the NFL right now?
03:54Would you put Drake May out there?
03:55Well, we just did your list the other day and I think you had him there, right?
03:58Right.
03:58I'm just saying.
03:59But, I mean, overall in general.
04:01Yeah.
04:01I would think a lot of people.
04:02I might be wrong about him because it's just the impression I get.
04:06I don't look at Drake May as somebody who's thinking about what he's going to be paid.
04:10Oh, come on.
04:12I don't.
04:12I don't.
04:13Stop it.
04:13I don't.
04:14Shine.
04:14Shine.
04:15Back me up on that.
04:16Back up the Briggs truck.
04:18Yeah.
04:18I mean.
04:19So, you think he's spending a lot of time thinking about what he's going to be paid?
04:22Damn right.
04:23I mean, every NFL player thinks a lot about what they're going to be paying.
04:26Right.
04:26And so.
04:26Call me naive then.
04:28You are.
04:28I mean, Glenn did.
04:29Go ahead.
04:30Sell me a bridge in Brooklyn.
04:31That's fine.
04:32And the only reason why I say that is because.
04:35Batting down the trash containers.
04:36Do you think.
04:37Do you think.
04:38His agent's going to go.
04:40He's better and younger than Josh Allen and Mahomes.
04:47So, we want to start where they started when it came to a contract.
04:51Do you think the Patriots are going to sit there and go.
04:54We're going to pay him more than Josh Allen.
04:56Yeah.
04:56I mean.
04:57A text.
04:57617 texter says.
04:59It's not at all about penny pinching.
05:02It's about how the NFL works.
05:04And the whole.
05:06Robert Kraft doesn't want to put the hundred million dollars in escrow.
05:10On this deal until the very last minute.
05:13So, that.
05:13That's.
05:14Maybe that's an issue.
05:15So, what's going to happen when he has to put.
05:17Potentially.
05:18How is that not penny pitching?
05:1940.
05:20250.
05:21230 million.
05:22For Drake May.
05:23They're arguing Curtis.
05:25That it's not penny pinching.
05:26It's good business.
05:27Why would you.
05:29Lock down a hundred million dollars in escrow now.
05:32When you could just do it.
05:34You know.
05:35Mid training camp.
05:36Or end of training camp.
05:37I don't.
05:38I don't.
05:38Is there any chance that this also isn't the Patriots fault.
05:41That the contract isn't done yet.
05:43And that it's Gonzalez holding it up.
05:44Yeah.
05:45Gonzalez and his agent.
05:46Because of the Devin Witherspoon situation.
05:47Like.
05:48Is there any way that they were like.
05:49Like yeah.
05:50We see the Trent McDuffie contract.
05:51Here's a contract.
05:52That's slightly better than McDuffie's.
05:53And Gonzalez is like.
05:54I kind of want to wait.
05:55And see what the.
05:56Devin Witherspoon contract.
05:58But don't you.
05:58But if they have the same agent.
06:00And this was knowledge to me.
06:01Greg.
06:01Because you told me about this.
06:03Don't you think the agent knows.
06:04Like.
06:04All right.
06:04Which one is the better player.
06:06And is going to get more money.
06:07And probably say.
06:08He's a Christian.
06:09All right.
06:09Even if you go out there.
06:10And ask.
06:11And we get you 105.
06:13Devin's probably not going to get more than you.
06:15Or even Trent McDuffie.
06:16So you got nothing to worry about.
06:17Or both corners believe they're going to set the market.
06:19And so that's why they're kind of just.
06:21Playing a game of chicken.
06:23Well.
06:23I would ask you this question.
06:25But then why is it every player every time.
06:27What.
06:28Like.
06:28When was the time.
06:29Where Robert Kraft said.
06:31Here you go.
06:33The last time I can think of it was Drew Bledsoe.
06:35That.
06:36It was like.
06:36Top of the market.
06:37Kind of out of nowhere.
06:39And.
06:39Wow.
06:40Well.
06:40Bill did it for a free agent.
06:41Not for his own player.
06:42But he did it for Stefan Gilmore.
06:43On the first day of free agency.
06:45Yeah.
06:45He did it for him.
06:46But that was also.
06:47I mean.
06:47Was that a wreck.
06:48Was that top of the market?
06:49Yeah.
06:49It was top of the corner.
06:50It was like the number one corner in football.
06:51I'm pretty sure.
06:51Yeah.
06:51I think it was like 65 million at the time.
06:54Whatever that contract was.
06:55It was a lot.
06:55I was shocked.
06:56Because he got.
06:57We're all scorched by Chris Hogan the year before.
06:59I was like.
06:59He's not that good.
07:00Yeah.
07:01Well.
07:01I just.
07:02I only ask the question.
07:03Because like.
07:04We just haven't gotten any leaks.
07:06And normally.
07:06Right.
07:06If the Patriots are low balling Christian Gonzalez.
07:09Gonzalez and or his agent would be leaking to somebody.
07:13That the Patriots offer is nowhere close.
07:15Right.
07:15And we haven't gotten any kind of bad news in that regard.
07:18It's been just complete silence.
07:20So maybe there's a chance that this isn't on the Patriots.
07:23Yeah.
07:23But we haven't heard of either.
07:25And I don't know.
07:26Because I'm not tapped into the Seattle media market.
07:29But I haven't heard any whispers about what.
07:32If there's been any Trent.
07:34Excuse me.
07:35Witherspoon.
07:36Contract whispers about what he could potentially get.
07:40Or did Seattle offer him anything.
07:41And I would ask Sean.
07:43Do you believe.
07:46That.
07:47Because you know.
07:47I heard you talk to Ty Law.
07:48So I know you know how to play corner.
07:50Do you believe.
07:52That Witherspoon.
07:54Even if Gonzalez wasn't up.
07:56Would get more money than McDuffie.
07:59Witherspoon could get more money than McDuffie.
08:01Yes.
08:01Specifically.
08:02Just because of how the NFL works.
08:03I think McDuffie is a better player.
08:05But.
08:06Just because his contract comes after.
08:07But the NFL doesn't always work like that.
08:09I mean.
08:10There's been plenty.
08:11Do you think McDuffie is better than Pat Sertan.
08:13No.
08:14But we just talked.
08:15And he got more money than him.
08:15We just talked about Kyle Pitts.
08:17Right.
08:17Yeah.
08:18Kyle Pitts.
08:19I believe got less money.
08:21Than.
08:23Trey.
08:24McBride.
08:25McBride.
08:26Right.
08:26So.
08:26Even though Trey McBride set the market.
08:29He didn't.
08:29That doesn't mean that player is going to go above it.
08:32If they.
08:32If the league feels like he's not above that player.
08:35So the only reason why I ask.
08:36If the league doesn't feel like Witherspoon.
08:38Is above McDuffie.
08:41Then Christian Gonzalez is going to set the market.
08:43Regardless.
08:44Because I think most people in the.
08:45In and around the NFL.
08:47Think that.
08:47Gonzalez is the best corner in the league right now.
08:50So he would be setting the market.
08:52He doesn't need a wait for Witherspoon.
08:54All right.
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