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03:02Good evening. Trinidad and Tobago. To our international audience. This is Beyond The Tape. I'm your host, Whitney Husbands.
03:09And we do apologize for the late start. But the show must continue. It's smack in the middle of the
03:14week.
03:14So that means only one thing. It's legally speaking Wednesdays. And with that, we have our favorite attorney here with
03:19us to guide us when it comes to the laws of the land.
03:22And also the Director of Policy and Support at the Ministry of Homeland Security. We have Mr. Zaheer Ali here
03:28with us this evening. Good evening to you, sir.
03:30Well, President, good evening to you, Whitney. It's indeed a pleasure to be back here to join with you.
03:35To continue to do great work for the people of Trinidad and Tobago.
03:40Good afternoon to Jackie and other colleagues, you know, in the background.
03:45My law enforcement colleagues in the various law enforcement agencies and also in the private security industry.
03:51The citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago. And I want to especially point out, Whitney.
03:55Yes.
03:58The education fraternity in Tobago.
04:01And the National Parent Teachers Association in Tobago.
04:04Yes.
04:04And other stakeholders. And I'm saying that I spent the last two days in Tobago in professional meetings with the
04:11Tobago sector geared towards a parenting seminar in the Tobago East and Tobago West.
04:19And also two psychosocial interventions at two schools that have been identified that is in urgent need of an intervention.
04:26We also had a very important seminar slash conference with all the principals, school supervisors, MTS officers, guidance officers, deans,
04:36and parents in the Tobago division as we're looking at the National School Code of Conduct 2026,
04:42which we continue to invoke and, you know, ensuring that these stakeholders appreciate and understand the importance of that particular
04:51document and other relevant documents as it relates to promoting discipline and safety and security, including psychological safety in all
05:01nation schools.
05:01So I'm very happy for the response that we have received in Tobago.
05:05And I want to take this opportunity to, you know, to acknowledge and congratulate the work of the Ministry of
05:10Homeland Security, the Policy and Community Support Office, the Trinidad and Tobago Association of Psychologists and other stakeholders who are
05:17on board that visit to Tobago.
05:20And very, very promising. And I want to, you know, salute them this afternoon.
05:23So the Tobago persons, if you are hearing me, I'm very grateful. I'm very happy for the response.
05:28And I look forward to a very strong bond with you when we look at our nation youth, both Trinidad
05:32and Tobago.
05:33And may I say as Whitney as well.
05:34Yes.
05:35It was so humbling as well, the number of persons who view this show, this program.
05:42And I want to say that because it touched me. Many of them came up and said they don't miss
05:45a program and be on the tape.
05:48And they actually went as far as to say, come, let's take some photographs.
05:51You know, it really warmed my heart. And sometimes you don't, when we're here, we don't see these people.
05:56Yes.
05:56But these people, the citizenry are there looking at us, paying attention to us.
06:01As a matter of fact, some have repeated some of the things that we have said and called for.
06:04So Tobago, thank you very much. And to the people who are accompanying me to Tobago, you know, hats off
06:10to you.
06:10And we look forward to great things as we move forward.
06:13Yes.
06:13So it's a pleasure as always, Whitney.
06:14And of course, we're always happy that you're here and you continue pushing the great initiatives that you have when
06:20it comes to young people in particular.
06:22Now, I'm not sure if you saw what took place very early this morning on social media that was circulating,
06:28where we are seeing where the young lady, Kaya Sili, has returned to the shores of Trinidad and Tobago.
06:36And we had an opportunity to see and also hear from our attorney.
06:40And I want you to take a listen to what the attorney had to say. Let's take a listen.
06:43Yes.
06:46I want you to take a listen to what is going on. She's holding up very well.
06:50You know, the circumstances are, you know, dire because she is in a, you know, a severe medical, she has
06:58a severe medical condition, you know.
07:00But in the circumstances, she has been holding up, well, enough, you know, she's been here.
07:06Unfortunately, I have not been able to speak with an investigating officer because as I've been told by the police,
07:12she's just been housed here.
07:13So, they don't have any further information. So, they weren't able to give me any information or nor was I
07:19able to see a warrant in the matter.
07:21Well, she'll be housed here until the matter proceeds to court at least that was the assurance given to me.
07:27Although, assurances have previously been given to me that, you know, have not panned out in that way.
07:33But the insurance is given to me so far is that she would, in fact, be here and she would
07:39attend virtually from the Arupa police station.
07:42Police officers seem to be very amicable. The police officers were cooperative who are actually stationed here, you know.
07:50They gave me as much information as they could have and they are attending to her needs as well as
07:55they can.
07:56I mean, the situation like accommodating her medication and so on, you know, they educated it as one of the
08:03guys' conditions and that's where they got her.
08:05So, I mean, I can say only from what they have discussed, but so far they seem to be cooperating
08:12with her and her care.
08:15Well, I can't say that for now. I mean, I'm not a doctor, but she has a planned medical trajectory
08:23with her, with medical professionals.
08:25So, none of that, of course, is in Trinidad.
08:29So, you know, I don't want to say anything because we have, you know, I don't want to comment on
08:35that because of the ongoing.
08:38And that is Kyle Silly's attorney, Miss Sandy, and that was outside the Arupa police station when they transported her
08:46to that said location
08:47and the express reporters were there to engage with her attorney to ask certain questions.
08:53Now, according to the Trinidad Express, Kyle Silly was arrested by police shortly after arriving at Piaco International Airport early
09:01today
09:01after returning to Trinidad and Tobago from Panama, where she had been receiving medical treatment.
09:07Now, attorney Fiola Sandy said that she had been in contact with the 24-year-old before she boarded her
09:15flight,
09:15which was scheduled to land at 1.45 a.m.
09:19According to Sandy, Silly's phone was switched off shortly after the aircraft landed.
09:24She later learned from Silly's mother, who was traveling with her,
09:27that police officers arrested Silly immediately after she disembarked.
09:32Sandy said Silly's mother reported that the officers were cordial during the arrest.
09:37They held her immediately after she exited the plane, Sandy stated.
09:42The attorney said police did not inform her that Silly would be arrested at the airport
09:47despite previous discussions with investigators about her return to Trinidad and Tobago.
09:52Sandy said she had advised investigators or she had advised the investigators of Silly's travel arrangement
09:58and had been told she would be allowed to leave the airport to attend a medical appointment schedule at 6
10:06a.m.
10:07Under those arrangements, Silly was expected to surrender to police at the Tunapuna police station at 9 a.m.
10:14Instead, Sandy said she was informed that Silly would be taken directly to the Aruka police station.
10:20Sandy and members of the Silly family arrived at the station shortly before 3 a.m.
10:26Mr. Ali.
10:27Well, Whitney, if you notice how the attorney at law,
10:30and first let me thank you for reading the report covered by the Express.
10:35Yes.
10:35I'll put on public record as well,
10:38I have no intimate information with reference to the particular situation.
10:43Yes.
10:43But based on your reading, based on my, the opportunity to listen to the attorney,
10:48you'll recognize the attorney is very, very responsible and careful in terms of...
10:52Words.
10:52Even her comments and response to this particular matter, and rightly so.
10:55So, guided by the report in the Express, what I will say is that we have seen very strict protocols
11:03being applied in these circumstances,
11:07especially based on the information that we have surrounding this particular matter.
11:11The only thing I'll want to say, based on what I've read in the open source, in relation to the
11:17court proceedings,
11:18I am very delighted to see, and this is in where I think a very careful balance has been struck
11:27between the prosecution and the defense.
11:29Yes.
11:30Whereas the master of the high court, Ms. Nazira Ali, who's presiding over this matter based on the open source
11:37reporting,
11:38she has laid down some very strict timelines with reference to this particular matter and to progress this matter expeditiously.
11:47And I want to say why I think that this is significant.
11:51This matter has created a lot of public outcry.
11:54Yes.
11:55This matter has created a lot of public interest.
11:57May I say, not only from a national context, but even from an international context.
12:01And I think that the best thing for this, in terms of where our criminal justice system is concerned,
12:06and pivoting on my last call, I think it was last week, when I spoke about ensuring that cases are
12:13effectively managed.
12:14Yes.
12:15I think the judicial officer in this matter has already announced a very, very important balance
12:21in terms of giving strict timelines for the prosecution to do particular things,
12:25and also strict timelines for the defense to do particular things,
12:29and from my reading, setting what they call a sufficiency hearing in the month of October.
12:35And I think that is significant.
12:37Yes.
12:37Just to go back to the area of sufficiency hearing, what a sufficiency hearing will do
12:40is to see whether, in fact, there is sufficient evidence for a matter to be placed before a trial.
12:50So that is a very critical juncture for both the prosecution, the defense,
12:55and most importantly, citizenry who are looking on in relation to this matter.
12:58So I'm very happy to see the Administration of Justice Indictable Proceedings Act,
13:02which was a legislation that came into context to manage cases properly
13:06and to ensure cases proceed through the judicial system in a timely manner.
13:11So I make a very strong call to the judicial officer to continue to manage that cases
13:14in the best interest of both parties and, by extension, the citizenry,
13:17which is looking on and which is part of the criminal justice system.
13:20One final thing I'd like to say in terms of reading from the open source,
13:23I saw that bail was granted.
13:25Yes.
13:25Now this, in my view, is another important factor.
13:28Based on what we have learned, there is some sensitivity in relation to her situation
13:33where she has to be invoked, or she's expected to invoke that medical intervention from time to time.
13:41So it's important for her because she's still presumed innocent until proven guilty,
13:46and her right to health is just as important.
13:48So I'm happy, again, that the exercise by the judicial officer,
13:51from what I am seeing, is very careful balancing.
13:54And I think that is what you need for matters that are of this particular nature.
13:58And I hope that the Director of Public Prosecution will continue to closely supervise this matter.
14:02And where the police is concerned, that there will be a completion of this file
14:07in keeping with the timelines that have been given with relation to this matter.
14:10But that's all I'll say for now.
14:12But I'm happy to see this sort of case management unfolding.
14:14All right, Ms. Ali, we have more on this and what is taking place after the break.
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16:13And welcome back.
16:14Of course, it's Legally Speaking Wednesdays.
16:16We have Mr. Ali here with us as we continue the conversation
16:18of what's taking place with the big matter that's trending right now,
16:22which is Kaya Sealy.
16:23And she's back home in Trinidad and Tobago.
16:26And went before the court today.
16:27And we got an update from the Trinidad Express a few minutes ago.
16:33Now, the state intends to rely on 30 witnesses, 42 witness statements,
16:38and a series of forensic reports in its prosecution of Kaya Sealy,
16:43who appeared virtually before Master Ali, which is not Mr. Ali we have here,
16:48in the Trinopoli Police Station on Wednesday, which was today.
16:52And the Master Ali granted Sealy bail in the sum of $700,000 with one surety.
16:59Now, Mr. Ali, what does that mean with the one surety aspect?
17:02Beautiful question.
17:03For those who are listening, what it simply means in simple terms
17:06is that a person or an entity takes the responsibility
17:10to ensure that Kaya Sealy, the suspect now accused,
17:14appears before court when she's required to go before the court.
17:17Okay.
17:17So normally they will normally give a deposit,
17:19or they will hold tab on or on agreement with the court
17:23to ensure that she attends court at the time and place
17:26that is given in relation to it.
17:27So it's really, in summary, someone who has a responsibility to ensure that.
17:30And if she does not end court, whatever is in the agreement
17:34can be forfeited to the state if that person fails to come to court.
17:37So that's just a check and balance to ensure
17:39that the public interest is well served in those circumstances
17:41because of the high public interest and the sensitivity of this matter
17:45and the seriousness of these offenses.
17:46So I'm happy that you placed that question to me
17:48to ensure that every single citizen have a fair understanding
17:50of what is happening.
17:51And that particular surety, please understand and appreciate
17:55the responsibility that you have taken with reference to this matter
17:58and please ensure that you fulfill your obligations.
18:03Now, you know, when I look at this entire circumstances,
18:07Kaya Seeley, based on the reporting, came in voluntarily.
18:11That in itself is a good sign.
18:12And I want to salute her and her attorneys this afternoon and her family.
18:15The fact that notwithstanding very serious offenses, charges,
18:19she came to the shores of Trinidad and Tobago
18:21to be within the jurisdiction of the police
18:23and the courts of Trinidad and Tobago.
18:25And I think that's a good sign.
18:26Spoke volumes.
18:26So that basically covers surety.
18:30But I think that I want to emphasize the effective case management
18:35that I'm seeing with this judicial officer must be saluted.
18:38And I'll tell you why.
18:39A judicial officer, and we have said it time and time again, Whitney,
18:42you are managing a matter, but you have the prosecution and the defense.
18:46Yes.
18:47But sometimes, if you are not cognizant of the judicial officer,
18:50what is the temperature in the wider citizenry of this matter?
18:54So I'm seeing a judicial officer who is taking a 360,
18:57which is an excellent approach.
18:58And I think that the Honorable Chief Justice,
19:01he himself and his members of his executive,
19:04the Court of Appeal and other judges, and even masters,
19:07recognize the importance of the AGIPA,
19:09which we call the Administration of Justice Inditable Precedence Act,
19:12to ensure that the criminal justice system
19:15continue to move swiftly to bring justice to persons.
19:18Could you imagine that if all goes well,
19:20by October, we are having a sufficiency hearing,
19:25and within quick time, you have the opportunity for a trial?
19:28Yes.
19:29That is what the criminal justice should represent.
19:31And as I said before, it is balanced because why, Whitney?
19:34It is good for witnesses from the prosecution,
19:36so their recollection is fresh.
19:39It also gives the defense an opportunity to bring witnesses
19:41to be able to test the case.
19:43So these are very significant matters,
19:45and I'm very happy to see how things are unfolding,
19:47and where I'm seeing at this point in time
19:50where there's a very, very expressed intent
19:55to observe all rights that may be existing,
19:57both for the prosecution and the accused in this matter,
20:00by extension, the third party,
20:01which is the citizenry of Trader Island, to be able to.
20:03So thank you for the question.
20:04All right, thank you so much, guys.
20:05And remember, this is a sensitive matter,
20:06so we shall leave that there as we move forward with the updates.
20:09Right now, it's time for your SOE update today of June 17, 2026.
20:15Number of operations, 7,688.
20:18Number of targets prior to offenders, 2,182.
20:23Searches conducted, 3,267.
20:26Traffic operations, 4,610.
20:29Total persons arrested, 3,426.
20:33Total persons charged, 779.
20:38Firearms recovered, we're seeing an increase with the pistol,
20:40sorry, the revolvers and the shotguns,
20:43a total of 192.
20:45Ammunition recovered, we're seeing an increase with the 9mm
20:48and the 0.38, with a total of 3,690.
20:54And dangerous drug sales, we see an increase with the cannabis
20:57and the cocaine.
21:00And those are your SOE updates right now.
21:01Let's take a look at what's making our headlines.
21:32We'll see you next time.
21:43And those are your stories making today's headlines.
21:45We'll take that break.
21:46We'll be back.
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23:58Now, Mr. Ali, in life,
23:59many times you may see people smiling and operating a certain way,
24:02and you don't know what is really happening with them in their mind behind closed doors.
24:08Now, in this case, COP urges attentiveness to the well-being of those around us.
24:14Now, this statement comes after an unfortunate incident in the Sangre Grandi district involving a police officer.
24:20Now, the Trinidad and Tobago police service is deeply saddened by the unfortunate circumstances
24:25that resulted in the death of one of their officers earlier today in Sangre Grandi district.
24:31The matter is now engaging the full attention of investigations in the Eastern Division.
24:37We extend our heartfelt condolences to the officers, family, colleagues, and loved ones
24:44as they navigate this painful and unexpected loss.
24:48This tragic event is a solemn reminder that many among us officers and civilians alike
24:54may be carrying heavy, unseen burdens.
24:56Anyone can feel overwhelmed,
24:58and no one should face those moments in isolation.
25:03We encourage individuals who may be struggling with personal, emotional, or situational pressures
25:09to reach out to someone they trust or seek professional support.
25:14Asking for help is an act of strength, not weakness.
25:18In response or responding to the situation,
25:21Commissioner of Police, Alisa Cabarro,
25:23urge families, friends, neighbors, and colleagues to be attentive
25:27to the well-being of those around them.
25:30He added that sudden changes in behavior, withdrawal, expressions of distress,
25:34or signs that someone is not coping should never be ignored.
25:39A simple check-in, a conversation, or an offer of support may help save a life.
25:44The TTPS remains committed to fostering a culture of care, compassion,
25:49and support within the service and across the national community.
25:54In moments of this struggle,
25:57empathy can be the bridge that keeps someone connected and safe.
26:01And that is from the Commissioner of Police, Alisa Cabarro.
26:05Well, thank you very much, Commissioner, if you were listening on this afternoon.
26:08Thank you very much for a very strong, woody statement
26:10when you're looking at the well-being of the officers in the TTPS.
26:15I think it's a good direction that you are taking.
26:17I'm there to support you from a policy context as well.
26:19But let me just comment on that further.
26:21You know there's a right to life.
26:23Yes.
26:25While they may not be expressed in the Constitution, a right to health,
26:28I link the right to health that's connected to a right to life.
26:30Yes.
26:31And I say to Trinidad and Tobago, every single citizen,
26:33a right to health will impact every other right.
26:36In other words, you cannot draw a right to education if you don't have good health.
26:39You cannot draw a right to family if you do not have good health.
26:42You cannot draw a right to freedom of assembly and association,
26:45freedom of expression, if you don't have good health.
26:46So the summary statement is right to health is extremely important.
26:52And right to health, I want to distinguish physical and mental health and well-being.
26:56Over the last couple of weeks and months,
26:58I've been around some brilliant psychologists in Trinidad and Tobago.
27:01And I have continued to engage them.
27:03And I smiled when I saw this statement or when I heard this statement
27:06because this special psychosocial intervention and educational engagement
27:10that we are looking at in our nation's schools and where the students are concerned,
27:15that is why I have brought psychologists to be able to support this multi-sectoral response.
27:22When you want students to be resilient,
27:24there are situations that are unfolding that may cause them to behave in a way that may not be acceptable.
27:29But if you engage in them, you're going to assist them to know how to deal with pressure,
27:32how to deal with situations that may be affecting their mental health
27:35or in some cases promoting their good mental health and general well-being.
27:39And that's why it's important to have those interventions.
27:41So, Commissioner, I really salute you by taking that stance this afternoon.
27:44And I think it's very critical.
27:46I, myself, sometimes, Whitney, will have a very stressful situation.
27:49And if you don't have people to talk to, if you don't have people to express yourself to,
27:53you would not get that level of support that you require.
27:56And it is a very important area.
27:58It's a very significant area.
27:59There is some stigma to that area of mental health as well.
28:01And hence why I am taking this opportunity with other stakeholders to promote this area.
28:06It's a very, very significant area.
28:08When, a few years ago, there was a summit, a regional summit in Trinidad and Tobago,
28:12and they were looking at crime as a public health issue.
28:15Correct.
28:15This is a direct connection, in my view, in terms of when you're looking at crime as a public health
28:19issue,
28:20because there are things, without giving a defense, that can be affecting persons,
28:24whether in a domestic situation, whether in other situations.
28:27And that's why we need to look at it from a very early stage.
28:29You know exactly who we have working around Trinidad and Tobago.
28:32Permit me just to give this very short example, please, with this area.
28:35I'm very, very interested in this area as well, this psychosocial area.
28:40There was a great prophet.
28:43Two boys used to be visiting his home every single day.
28:46One was younger than the other.
28:48And one day, one of the young one did not go to the prophet's house.
28:53And the prophet asked the older boy,
28:56where is this young boy who comes every day?
28:59And he told the prophet, he said, he didn't come because his birth passed away.
29:03No.
29:04Now let's look at something right there.
29:05His birth passed away, meaning that there's already an attachment that causes the boy not to come.
29:10And this boy used to be coming religiously.
29:11You know what the great prophet did?
29:13Took the boy and went to visit that boy.
29:15To be able to counsel him and support him and render assistance.
29:18Because you do not know at that time how that loss may affect that particular individual.
29:24And I'm just using that as a story where there's a psychological safety and security that we require.
29:29Smack into what the police commissioner is asking the TTPS and others to be aware of circumstances.
29:34So I may come.
29:36Every evening I'll come.
29:37You'll greet me.
29:38Zaheer, how are you going?
29:39I say, Whitney, how are you?
29:40Those are very significant things.
29:42Because over a period of time, I must know if all is not well with Whitney.
29:45Because there may be a situation where Whitney comes.
29:47Let's talk.
29:47What's happening?
29:48Or vice versa.
29:49So my message to Trinidad and Tobago, let's start it in the home.
29:52Your spouse, your children.
29:54Let's look at them.
29:55Let's engage them.
29:56Your child may come home at the end.
29:57Finally, she or he is not the way that they'll normally be in the evening.
30:00Put them sit down.
30:01What's happening?
30:01Get into their minds.
30:03So excellent.
30:04And to Trinidad and Tobago, let us support each other.
30:06Because it's critically important.
30:08Both physical and overall mental health and well-being.
30:11All right.
30:12Remember, you can give us a call at 623-1711-extension-1996 and 1997 when we come back from that
30:19break.
30:19We'll be back.
30:20All right, guys.
30:21Today we're going to start a new topic.
30:23And that topic is entitled...
30:27Al-J...
30:36There is no way I could teach in all that noise.
30:40And there is definitely no way we children could learn in that noise of violence.
30:45They deserve more.
30:47That fear.
30:49That anxiety.
30:51We have to have our classrooms filled with joy, laughter, and hope.
30:55Not fear.
30:57That is why I support the TCPS School-Orienting Policing Initiatives.
31:03But this is not just about law enforcement.
31:06It's about building trust.
31:09Parents, teachers, students, and officers all coming together to provide a safe space where
31:17young minds can flourish.
31:19If we all stand side by side, we can protect our children, keep them safe, and they can have
31:28a space to learn without anxiety and fear.
31:33I am ready to partner with the TCPS in fostering safe, respectful, and empowered schools across
31:42Shenandoah and Tobago.
31:44It's not a simple task.
31:46We need parents, students, teachers, and communities to get involved.
31:52It's time to get on board.
31:55Securing our schools.
31:57Securing our future.
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35:37To answer that question in my respectful view, you need to understand what's the purpose of the law?
35:41Okay.
35:41And I can give two examples, the purpose of the law.
35:44Law, according to one theory, is a rule backed by sanctions, simply meaning that don't do this.
35:51If you do this, these are the consequences.
35:54And then on the other hand, another theory is that laws are also to empower persons, for example, to make
36:00a trust, to make a contract.
36:03So we have two contexts, one backed by sanctions and one to empower persons.
36:06Now, regardless of looking at the both instances, the rule is there to create certainty and to guide you.
36:13So if we are aware, look at the one backed by sanctions.
36:15If you are aware that if you do X, Y will follow.
36:19Correct.
36:19Then it's incumbent upon you to understand, listen, you are aware of the consequences, so you need to stay in
36:24line.
36:24So you have the obligation where when you are governed by a constitution and you have a social contract to
36:29say, okay, if we are governed by the rule of law, it means I must respect the rule of law.
36:32I may not always agree, personally, but that's the laws of the land.
36:38And there are particular processes, if you have an issue with it, to go through legal processes to assist in
36:43trying to reform the law.
36:44But as it stands, if that's the law, if that's the majority decides how we are going to be governed,
36:48then you are to follow that particular law.
36:50And secondly, if you have a law that is empowering you to make trusts and do contracts, then again, exercise
36:56and enjoy that right that you have to be able to make trusts and to make contracts in keeping with
37:01also the legal requirements of those matters.
37:04So very significant, but it comes down to obedience, recognizing that we are governed in a wider society by a
37:11majority.
37:11And if the majority say this is the rule, this is the rule until such time that it is trained.
37:15But an excellent question.
37:16We have a caller on the line.
37:17Caller, good evening.
37:18Good evening.
37:20Good evening.
37:22Good evening.
37:25Good evening.
37:25Good evening.
37:28Good evening.
37:30I just, well, I just did an entry program, so I didn't hear the entire program, but I just want
37:40to find out if there's a number that you can call, if you think somebody is, like,
37:50suicidal, I saw some numbers, I was told those numbers, but I didn't get any response.
38:01I didn't get any response.
38:07I didn't get any response.
38:11I didn't get any response.
38:14Okay.
38:15Thank you for that.
38:16But we will give you that information as quickly as possible.
38:21We will give you that information as quickly as possible.
38:46We will give you that information before we wrap things up.
38:47We have another caller.
38:48Caller.
38:48Good evening.
38:50Good evening.
38:51Good evening.
38:52Good evening.
38:53Good evening, sir.
38:54Good evening to you, sir.
38:55I am calling this afternoon in regards to the driving of government vehicles, namely police vehicles.
39:04So, it is understood that the marked vehicles are response vehicles.
39:09But in black, heavily tinted vehicles, the Prados, the newer model vehicles that are being driven on the nation road
39:17by the police special branch and other members of the police service.
39:22I have to label them as that.
39:24Reckless driving.
39:25Cyrene to go nowhere.
39:27I can call an incident, but I would like to believe that I should be targeted by this incident in
39:33the Freeport District, but I will let you know, sir, if there is anything that can be done, it must
39:40be done.
39:40I hope that the persons who have the authority and the disposition to make a change are listening, but they
39:46need to control police officers while driving and operating government vehicles.
39:52And I'll tell you this, I don't know if the nation feels this way, but when people are bullied by
39:58police or you, it is a contributing factor that persons would not want to interrupt again.
40:04You'll have a good evening.
40:05I wait for your response, Mr Farley.
40:07I know it's an educated order.
40:09Thank you so much, Kola.
40:10Thank you very much, Kola.
40:12Kola, you are on point with reference to police officers regardless of mark or unmarked vehicles.
40:16What that vehicle is for official use by the police, the vehicle must be cared for in the first instance.
40:23And the way that the vehicle is driven on the public road, the laws that governs the public road, they
40:28ought to observe it as well.
40:29So not because you are in a marked police vehicle or an unmarked police vehicle with flashing blue lights, you
40:34are still required to ensure that you are driving with due care and attention, which includes observing the rules and
40:40road regulations.
40:40So a significant point.
40:42I am aware that within the police service, there is a policy that in the briefing of police officers, that
40:48SO49, if I recall clearly, which has the responsibility to ensure that we care for the vehicles, first off.
40:56But there are other policies that governs how police officers behave on the roads of Trinidad and Tobago.
41:00But again, something to look at, and I am happy how we took the point in terms of trust and
41:04confidence.
41:05That all police officers must recognize that they need to be responsible.
41:09And if you are not responsible, your actions can bring disrepute to the 30PS.
41:13And it is important for you to understand critically your role and to ensure that you are professional at all
41:18times.
41:19Alright, we have another caller on the line.
41:22Caller, good evening.
41:24Hello?
41:28Hello?
41:30Alright, I think we are getting some issues with that caller, but I have some information here where we will
41:36share with the public.
41:37Anyone who is suffering with any suicidal thoughts or may have some issues of abuse, anxiety, emotional distress.
41:44And this is from the Ministry of the People's Social Development and Family Services.
41:49This is Suicide Prevention Hotline.
41:51And that is 800-COPE.
41:53That is 800-2673.
41:56Now this is a 24-hour Suicide Prevention Hotline.
41:59I am going to repeat it again.
42:01800-2673.
42:05And if you are feeling like something is wrong, nothing is wrong with reaching out.
42:11And finding a way to deal with whatever that may be.
42:15Nothing is too small.
42:16Let me reinforce a point with that, Whitney.
42:18And thank you very much for responding with that professional number.
42:21But let me say something.
42:22That is the number and other numbers available for professional intervention.
42:28That is excellent.
42:29But right in your household.
42:30Don't be afraid to tell someone, listen, I am not feeling well.
42:33And this is what I am thinking about.
42:35So your assistance may be either in your household or right to the neighbour.
42:38Yes.
42:40I know that we are out of time.
42:41Happy Father's Day to all the fathers.
42:43And I also want to wish all the children who are setting the national test tomorrow best of luck.
42:47And may God continue to bless and guide you on a very big day tomorrow.
42:51Thank you so much, Mr. Ali.
42:52Guys, that's it for us.
42:53Lute is up next at 7 o'clock.
42:55We will be back tomorrow with ASP Russell.
42:57God bless.
42:57We are out.
43:13Greetings.
43:14Good morning.
43:28Thanks to my host.
43:32You
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