00:00And Nick Shook of NFL.com ranked the divisions by quarterback talent for this season, and he has the NFC
00:08West in first, AFC West in second, and then if you look all the way down in eighth place, dead
00:14last, he has the NFC South. Is that warranted?
00:18Unfortunately, I believe it is. I'm still not a believer in probably three-quarters of the division's quarterbacks. I don't
00:29believe that Bryce Young will be a 12-year starter in Carolina and lead them to the Super Bowl. I
00:35just don't. I don't know what we have in Atlanta. We literally don't know who's going to start week one.
00:40And as far as New Orleans goes, they kind of think they got it rocking based off of a half
00:46of a season or less. And Baker Mayfield, good Lord, we're talking about how much money he's going to be
00:52making and whether or not he's the guy at this point.
00:55And Todd Bowles answering questions about it. So yeah, as unfortunate as to say, we can think highly of all
01:01these guys and talk about the talent they have, but when you dwindle it down and start looking at the
01:06other divisions, I would unfortunately say he's right on it.
01:10Yeah, I'm fine with the NFC South being eight. You have an unknown in Tyler Shuck, because look, six games,
01:21seven games, you're still unknown. Whatever we have here going on.
01:26And then I don't wholeheartedly agree with the hatred Mike Spews for Bryce Young, because I'm more of a Bryce
01:33Young guy, but I also think he is a guy that, to me, hasn't proven himself.
01:36You go look at how they were successful last year, and they didn't use the full field. A lot of
01:44his stuff was intermediate stuff to kind of dink and dunk.
01:49And the run game was a huge part of what they did last year in Carolina and defense.
01:56And then I'm personally sold on Baker Mayfield. I think there's bigger issues there than Baker Mayfield.
02:02And now Baker Mayfield being able to be the leader, necessarily, that you need.
02:10And I think Mike Evans not being in that locker room, that is the question mark for me. I'm fine
02:14with that.
02:14My problem, if I can bounce around a little bit, is who he has ranked third.
02:21And that one, to me, is ridiculous. He has the NFC East ranked third.
02:27Dak Prescott, whether you, and I say anybody out there, wants to admit it or not, is far and away
02:34the best quarterback in that division.
02:37It's not even close. It's not even close.
02:42Jackson Dart is an unknown. Stay healthy.
02:47And what I mean by that, I'm not saying concussions are his fault, but he is putting himself a little
02:52bit in harm's way with the way he moves with the football.
02:56Jalen Hurts, yeah, I know he won a Super Bowl.
03:01He also won it behind a 2,000-yard rusher, essentially, in Saquon Barkley.
03:05And one of the best defenses we've seen, I don't know, you know, since the Ravens in, what, 2000 or
03:13whatever.
03:17Jaden Daniels, unknown.
03:19Because he had a really good year where he ran a lot and he got hurt because of it the
03:24next year.
03:25And I'm just not sure what they are, Mike, without him, with him sitting back in the pocket and playing
03:32a style that doesn't put him in harm's way.
03:35Much like Jackson Dart.
03:36I just mentioned him.
03:37They're just different injuries.
03:38So, how is that the third best, how is that better than the division in the AFC North with Lamar,
03:49Joe Burrow, and Aaron Rodgers, and then whatever Cleveland has?
03:52I completely agree.
03:54That, to me, is the biggest misstep.
03:57Because I am a massive Dak Prescott fan.
04:00And the way he plays the game, I think because the team he plays for and the position he's in,
04:04he gets hated on, you know, unfairly a lot of times.
04:07But, you look at the AFC North, they've got him, he's not only got him behind, he's got him ranked
04:12fifth.
04:12He's got him ranked fifth.
04:13And just the amount of MVPs alone, and Joe Burrow is obviously a next-level elite quarterback as well.
04:21Well, I did have an issue with that.
04:23I had a problem with where he ranked that entire, you know, division as far as that goes.
04:28And even if, say what you want, I know Deshaun Watson at this point in his career is not good
04:31and may not even start, even though it probably looks like it.
04:35He has had a history where he has at least, you know, been a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback.
04:39He had an MVP caliber season.
04:41Exactly.
04:42So, call it what it is, but that Nick Shook, you know, recency bias, I guess, with some of this
04:48stuff is a little bit off base.
04:51And, look, I'm fine with the NFC North.
04:54I think they have a good, for the most part, a good set of quarterbacks starting that division.
04:59But to have them over Burrow and Lamar and Aaron Rodgers, those are, if Joe Burrow stays healthy for the
05:07next seven years,
05:08that's a division right now with three Hall of Fame caliber quarterbacks.
05:14And you have Caleb Williams, who's been bad and been good.
05:21Now, granted, he's still got to become a better quarterback in the pocket.
05:28His off-schedule play is unbelievable.
05:30But as far as a pocket passer, he is still lacking.
05:34Jared Goff, who's a good player.
05:36Jordan Love is a good player.
05:37But then whatever the hell Minnesota has going on with Kyler and JJ, how is that better?
05:44How is that better than the AFC North?
05:48Because I want to tell you, it's not.
05:50And I'll stand on that business all day long.
05:54I agree.
05:55So where do you put the, so NFC East was in third.
05:58You say that is the wrong place for them.
05:59Do you put them after the NFC North or AFC North?
06:02I would probably put them after both, honestly.
06:07Because, again, it's Dak Prescott and in the NFC East.
06:13So it's Dak Prescott and a guy who hasn't proven himself.
06:17A guy who needs to stay healthy and have a year where he progresses as a pocket quarterback in Jaden.
06:24And Jalen Hurts, who personally, off the field, I absolutely think is a phenomenal human being.
06:33But on the field, he's a mixed bag.
06:37In order for Jalen Hurts to be an effective quarterback, he has to run it seven to ten times a
06:46game.
06:46And they have to be effective in the ground game with Saquon.
06:50And then the passing game is kind of a complement to the running game.
06:55Yeah, I completely agree.
06:57A number of different quarterbacks like that as well.
07:00It's just such a weird, it is a weird time in quarterbacking as far as this transition that we've gone
07:06to of this more athletic style quarterback.
07:08Because you still have a few of the old school style guys that don't move and don't pass the line
07:13of scrimmage and things like that.
07:15I want to bring this to y'all's attention as well.
07:17The AFC East was ranked sixth.
07:19Is there any more polarized group of quarterbacks?
07:23Like, good?
07:24Like, Drake May and Josh Allen.
07:26You look at that division, you go, oh, man.
07:29Up there.
07:29You know?
07:30Top eight quarterbacks.
07:32Both of them, probably.
07:33And then at the bottom, you go, okay, Malik Willis, we have no idea.
07:36And Geno Smith is coming from a very bad situation into maybe another bad situation.
07:41And you wonder how long that experiment's going to last.
07:45I looked at it and I was like, oh, Josh Allen, Drake May, what do y'all do?
07:47And then I was like, ah.
07:49Is it?
07:50Drake's sixth.
07:51Is it fair to say that Drake May has to go do it again?
07:58Oh, for sure.
07:59So, like, I can, I, to me, this, the AFC East is very similar to the NFC East as far
08:11as their, their, so, would you agree, and I know you will, but I still got to ask the
08:17question.
08:17Would you agree that Josh Allen is a better quarterback than Dak Prescott?
08:21Yes.
08:22Okay.
08:23I would, yes, I would rather have Josh Allen on my team.
08:25And would you agree to have a Drake May than, or would you, let me ask you, would you rather
08:31have Drake May or Jalen Hurts?
08:35Drake May.
08:36Okay.
08:36So, and I want to say this real quick about Jalen Hurts.
08:38I'm not saying Jalen Hurts can't go out there and throw it 40 times a game and win, right?
08:43The problem is, he's not going to go out there and throw it 40 times a game for 17 games
08:48and
08:48go 12 and 5.
08:49He's not.
08:50He's not built that way.
08:52It's not who he is.
08:53No.
08:53Um, but I, I, I think that Drake May would be closer to that than Jalen Hurts.
09:00But then Malik and Geno, how are they, I mean, like, Malik has a chance to be very much like
09:09Jaden Daniels, I think.
09:11I think, I think they're very similar.
09:13They both can move with the football.
09:15They both are going to work the perimeter a little bit, right, with the, the short perimeter
09:19game, um, and then they've got good, got good deep balls, but like, it's not, they're not
09:25working that 10 to 20 as much, as, as, as, as much as, um, some other guys could probably
09:32do in the league.
09:34Uh, so I don't know.
09:35I, I think that I, I think they could be a little bit higher, but not much.
09:39I was, uh, I was, I was thinking this as I kind of looked on this list a minute ago
09:43and
09:43I wanted to throw it at you before we went to break.
09:44If you were starting your franchise right now, are you starting it with Drake May or Caleb
09:50Williams?
09:52Given the choice of the two quarterbacks, what do y'all think y'all, you know, it's hard because
09:58you know what, you know, that incurs, I don't know, you know, it's hard.
10:01Yeah.
10:01It's a good call.
10:02That's a very good call.
10:03What's hard about that for me is I think they're really similar, believe it or not, the way
10:07they play.
10:08They both can, can, I think Drake May is probably a little bit better North and South runner
10:15than Caleb Williams.
10:16Sure.
10:17I think Caleb Williams that was better at getting out of the pocket, keeping a play alive and
10:22making the off scripted play.
10:24I think he's better than, than Drake May is at that.
10:27Um, but in the pocket alive, Drake May is probably a little bit better.
10:35That's a tough choice, but they're both, they're both pretty, pretty, they've got some, neither
10:42one of them does anything so much better than the other.
10:45That is a clear answer.
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