The Verdict Is In And Some People Are Angry...

Doc Rich

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00:00let me interrupt you the verdict is in it is 35 years is the sentence not under passion 35 year

00:07sentence for camillo anthony eligible for parole after serving half of that time

00:15so wow there uh there is the sentence what's your reaction there's the sentence

00:25wow um you know again i i i'm coming from a unique perspective i was a prosecutor i have prosecuted

00:35people that have killed people uh that have harmed children um that have harmed babies i have defended

00:42people that uh you know have killed multiple people i have a death penalty case that i'm

00:47uh that i'm a part of right now um and i will tell you um in my 17 years i

00:54think these set of facts um

00:59you know a jury coming to the conclusion that 35 years in prison is an appropriate sentence um

01:08is is is quite incredible it's quite incredible i'm i'm i'm slightly blown away um

01:16i will tell you that it's important that we always remember here in texas that you you know you have

01:23a range of punishment the range of punishment for a murder conviction is anywhere from five years

01:28to 99 years or life and regardless of the sentence that you receive in the state of texas you are

01:33required to serve half of your sentence or 30 years whichever is less so in this particular instance he's

01:42sentenced to 35 years before he becomes eligible for parole he will have to serve half of that

01:48sentence what is that 16 and a half years 17 and a half years roughly seven and that may very

01:57well

01:57have been the age of austin metcalf when this happened in 20 i think that 17 i think you're right

02:07about

02:07that sean absolutely absolutely i'm i'm actually um surprised differently i but i again felt like it

02:15was going to be longer i just did based on i know bill worski was what he called for yeah

02:21he didn't give them a number

02:23he didn't assign a number in his uh closing statements in the punishment phase but he he

02:29impressed on them that it should be lengthy that it should be long that we have to send a message

02:34of

02:35uh we're not going to tolerate senseless violence in our community he talked to those jurors about

02:40them coming together as a community to do the right thing to serve justice he put he put on those

02:46jurors the idea that they were upholding the standard for the community and um so i anticipated

02:53i thought it might be longer uh i hope we get to hear from the jury foreman or one of

02:59the jurors at some

02:59point um to know what they were thinking what they went through in that moment so i think it should

03:07have gotten longer i think it should have gotten longer you you don't you don't bring um you know

03:15something like that to attract me and then after somebody pushes you which is what was alleged in

03:23the case um according to witnesses you don't just you don't then stab them like that that's not

03:33that that that's not first reaction you know um maybe the swing like i'm not advocating for violence

03:40but just based off of situations that i've been in and situations that i've seen like nobody's ever

03:47been stabbed and i've seen countless countless numbers of fights countless as i told you guys before

03:56i remember um like my sophomore junior year in high school there was like a fight like every other day

04:02every other day and i didn't even go to like a ghetto school like like honestly i went to a

04:08pretty

04:08darn good school so what was happening that year was crazy that was an anomaly but hey listen i was

04:13young

04:15i wasn't in in any of the fights yeah no i don't think i no i wasn't in any of

04:20the fights

04:21i was there at a lot of them most of them probably 95 of them but i was never in

04:26them

04:27but i damn sure was there recording oh you know um kids being stupid of course but nobody ever got

04:34stabbed or shot or even seriously hurt people's pride got hurt but none of us let it go you know

04:43what once

04:45once somebody clearly got the upper hand um in a fight like if it was that obvious or that

04:52blatant where somebody was just getting pummeled like of course we're gonna jump in and stop it

04:56like we're not gonna let you just beat the crap out of this person until like they're seriously hurt

05:01like nah we ain't doing that that's not what we're doing all right you got it you got it you

05:05got to get

05:05off of them you know when we go we're gonna pull you up off the individual yeah his feelings hurt

05:10but

05:10he gonna get up and he gonna go home all right we'll see we'll see him tomorrow at school you

05:14know we might have a couple laughs like hey bro we told you not to fight him you got you

05:19got your

05:20behind to him yesterday

05:24you know but nobody ever got stabbed like that that is just crazy to me and to see here and

05:30say

05:31oh well i was defending myself defend yourself with these

05:35like what i don't know i'm i'm i'm confused i'm confused but then also like you you had nothing

05:43to defend yourself over according to the witnesses right there was nothing to defend yourself from

05:51they told you to get out of the tent you should have left and got out of their tent that's

05:56weird

05:56you don't sit under somebody else's tent anybody that's ever been to a track meet knows that every

06:01different school has has their own specific tent because track meets are long it's hot nobody wants

06:08to bake in the sun all day you know what i mean so we sit under our tent we cool

06:14down we chill out we

06:15hang out we have a good time we have fun but we do it with our school right and i

06:21knew a lot of people

06:22i i knew a lot of people but i never hung out under some other team's tent like i would

06:29talk to people

06:29you know around track meets and stuff you know walking around yip yapping and jaw jacking with

06:35different individuals but i never sat under somebody else's tent i wouldn't even like a thought like

06:40this is weird like i'm going i'm going to go sit with some other team like that's weird you know

06:47it's

06:47weird so yeah um he was found guilty as i'm sure you guys have heard and has been sentenced to

06:5535 years

06:57and at bare minimum he is going to have to serve half that so about 17 and a half which

07:02typically

07:03you're not going to get out on your first attempt so it'll probably he'll probably end up serving about

07:0820 ish years or so give or take right so he's not going to be out until he's about 50

07:17because i believe

07:18he's 19 right now so 39 or not 50 did i say 50 40

07:29he's not gonna get out until he's about 40 maybe a little over 40 somewhere in there um

07:35which i mean that's that's pretty much i won't say all of your good years but those are all of

07:40your

07:40most productive years gone right your 20s you can really grind you can really you know

07:47do a lot of things that a 40 year old would find a lot harder to do you know sleepless

07:54nights in your

07:5520s you can pull all-nighters whatever 30s as well right he's gonna miss out of all that time so

08:02um

08:03and rightfully so right you you stab somebody bro but i want to get into some of the reaction including

08:14including including the guy who um some of y'all might remember this uh blm gentleman who the

08:21the carmel anthony spokesperson yeah he had a lot to say after the trial check it out decision

08:27protesters gathered outside claiming this was the latest example of black lives not mattering

08:34well what this process did is shown that black lives do not matter in collin county this trial

08:40showed that it put emotions over the law after trayvon martin and so many countless names

08:49it has shown us that black life is not safe in collin county minister dominique alexander is the man

08:56that you just heard from in that video he is a spokesman for the anthony family uh minister it's nice

09:02to

09:02have you on you keep saying that black lives don't matter but no black lives were lost here a 17

09:08year old

09:08white person was killed so what what are you talking about what i'm talking about is 35 35 years um

09:18carmelo anthony um was sentenced to 35 years yet at the end of the day black america repeatedly is told

09:26that self-defense is a part of the law um that that a knife under five inches is is legal

09:33in the state

09:34of texas um that stands your ground so there was a um sheriff i believe that testified to that that

09:42said

09:43that the knife that he had was legal but just because it is legal doesn't mean that it's legal to

09:49then

09:49use it take it and kill somebody like guns are legal it's legal to carry a firearm most people should

10:00i encourage everybody to do so uh uh responsibly of course but that doesn't mean that it's legal then

10:07to go and kill people with said gun like yes it's legal to have it doesn't mean it's legal to

10:15just

10:15walk around killing people just because they pushed you if that if that were the case we'd be in some

10:21serious trouble oh he pushed me oh well i guess he did you know like no that that's crazy that

10:28is crazy

10:31so that that whole argument is absolutely silly absolutely silly but carry on brown is legal here

10:38in the state of texas but when a black person um try to use those same basic rights and laws

10:46then

10:48we're not afforded those things we're doing those things unjustifiably well that's not what a jury

10:54found today can you tell me i know you know carmelo anthony well why did he bring a knife to

10:59a track meet i can't comment on that um what what i can do i can't speak for carmelo anthony

11:07but i can

11:08tell you that the state of texas made it legal so at the end of the day if a person

11:14got a problem with

11:15it they might need to call governor greg abbott and tell him why does this state have open carry

11:21laws or brass knuckles and etc right stabbing somebody in the heart though sir is definitely not

11:27legal he could have just turned around and walked out of that tent at any moment and based on what

11:35you have been told about the situation um i can see how you can take that fact but the levels

11:42of

11:42injustice that was done in this trial um is not how i was told right but at the end of

11:49the day that's

11:49the reason why we're going to go through a full appeals process to ensure that the facts are being

11:56told correctly but me and you are going to go back and forward no that's fine tell me i'm curious

12:01tell

12:01me no no well well tell me what you think happened well what i think is is the situation is

12:08that someone

12:09asked carmelo anthony to come over there he knew an individual but that that's not being told right

12:15it's like oh a kid just randomly went under a tent right and he just sitting there no one knows

12:22who

12:22he is that's not the case right uh there was one kid that said that he knew him or they

12:27were cool but

12:28they only hung out when uh carmelo's girlfriend was around or something like he was like a friend of

12:35the girlfriend and obviously carmelo was the boyfriend to the girlfriend so that kind of made

12:41them connected and that's kind of how they were connected but if i remember correctly that same

12:49person also said that carmelo was in the wrong so how does that calculate

12:58i i mean even still and and and maybe it was maybe it's just me but like you still don't

13:04go under

13:04somebody else's tent and sit there like this is weird is it just me do do do we have any

13:11track

13:11runners watching or any any parents of of of students who are track runners like have you ever

13:20sat under somebody else's tent or watched your child sit under somebody else's tent

13:24i personally have never seen it i've never seen it like i've seen people talk maybe stand outside of

13:32the tent walking by you know and yip yap and jaw jack put to like stop sit down hang out

13:38like no

13:39never seen it and then if you get asked to leave like put up make a whole scene about it

13:45no never

13:46seen it never seen it but maybe it's just me maybe it's just me y'all let me know in

13:51the comments please

13:53we know that carmelo anthony knew an individual he knew a coach he spoke about it we also know that

13:59frisco isd should have counseled that this wasn't just raining we were under a tornado watch that day

14:08right and this should have been something that was actually wait wait you're telling me that because

14:13somebody invited him to that tent and there might have been a tornado warning which happened all the

14:17time in texas that he was warranted in stabbing a 17 year old kid in the chest in the heart

14:22and

14:22killing him that's not that's not the case but what you cannot do is put your hands on well you

14:28just

14:28told me that was the case no no no is that the case because i want to know what the

14:31case is i

14:32seriously do ask me the first but you asked me the first time why was he under the tent or

14:37close or

14:38whatever it may be right the reality is is this is that the state of texas says that i don't

14:43have to

14:44when i'm assaulted i don't have to return the same level of force correct isn't that the law yeah the

14:51no that he was asked to leave that tent multiple times and the prosecution called 21 witnesses hold

14:58on the prosecution called 21 witnesses and they all corroborated that they all said that he was

15:04asked to leave the tent there was no there might have been they all didn't they all didn't have no

15:09sir no he was asked to leave the tent so he could have left that tent at any time he

15:12chose not to that's

15:13why he's going to jail for 35 years all 21 of them did not have the same story they did

15:18not have the

15:19same story and that's why so many people outside of that courtroom is outraged right now if you look

15:27at any they basically had the same story of course there's going to be tiny little nuances from this

15:33person to that person because everybody's memory isn't the same people people's um people process

15:41trauma differently you know not everybody processes trauma the same not everybody is going to

15:46watch somebody that they went to school with die in front of them and want to remember that so sometimes

15:54people people's memory intentionally tries to forget what happened because it's traumatic right nobody should

16:03have to watch that in front of them to watch somebody you know uh die right in front of their

16:10face that

16:10they just went that they were just in classroom with you know that's a traumatic experience so of

16:15course there may be a little nuances here or there but for the most part the general story is basically

16:21the same it's basically the same um and of course like he said uh people were outside completely outraged

16:29acting a darn fool saying a bunch of nonsense like there's one clip that's going viral of this gentleman

16:36here i'm just about to play the clip like just watch this man this this is just silliness shoulders the

16:42entire time and also i'm told that austin metcalf's twin brother hunter this was the first time he was

16:50excuse the the talking in the background pay attention to the video here this

16:58this silly guy okay like just jumping in this man's face like just trying to provoke inside the courtroom

17:05when that guilty verdict was read uh i'm told it was really emotional from both sides after uh that

17:13murder verdict and as for what's next will now it's the sentencing phase i can't be the only one who's

17:20sick

17:20of seeing stuff like this i mean a black kid killed yeah silly silly bro silly

17:30my goodness my goodness uh this clip right here is also going viral of this lady

17:38just check it out

17:49actually this ain't that's this ain't even the right clip i think i got the wrong clip

17:54my bad y'all this yeah this the wrong clip wrong one my apologies my apologies but um here's another

18:03clip clip of some individuals

18:04this was a legal lynching that happened in this slaughterhouse this is a slaughterhouse this is

18:19not a courthouse this courthouse is designed when you will come here and you look like us

18:24who are you that judge intentionally bro some some of these people kind of piss me off

18:33right a lynching like do you know what a lynching really is like have you ever seen a real lynching

18:41you know like in these these people are calling someone being convicted of murder that

18:48when there's real individuals real situations circumstances where people genuinely were lynched

18:59like that that's that stuff is so annoying so annoying this is not a lynching we we know what a

19:06lynching is that ain't it lynchings you don't come back from lynchings you get buried six feet in the

19:13dirt afterwards okay this ain't that this ain't that and it's just like come on man the silliness and

19:21it's all it's always it's always us bro always uh saying the dumbest shit ever excuse my language but

19:31i i'm just this is only one thing bro the dude stabbed somebody and and killed them had now had

19:40the

19:40shoe been on the other foot had there been a white kid that did it to a black kid they

19:44would want that

19:45white kid to go to prison for life they would have wanted to give the they they would have wanted

19:49the

19:49white kid to have the death penalty but because he's black this is a wiggle wintry the fuck up anyway

19:57what do you want us to do what what do you want us to do at this point what i

20:03i'm i'm lost for it i don't

20:04know what to do i got five boys i don't know what i ain't got nothing to tell them no

20:08more you can't walk

20:09away no more rest in peace trayvon martin let me ask you this right now what are we supposed to

20:23do

20:24you're supposed to teach your kids not to stab people i mean it's quite simple this ain't rocket

20:31science only black people are oh no no we ain't gonna play that clip this this this is not rocket

20:36science

20:37here is is is it is it a little bit tragic right that this man has to go to prison

20:43for a bare minimum

20:4518 years yeah sure you know kids said he was 17 when it happened 18 now he's about to go

20:52to prison

20:53for basically all of the productive years of his life if not longer because obviously if you get into

21:00some trouble while you're in prison uh that could that could change okay you know that those those

21:07years could be extended he could spend he could serve all of that time and so yeah it is tragic

21:15but

21:16it's even more tragic that there's somebody whose son who is now buried in the cemetery because of

21:23his actions there's some there's somebody else's son who had to watch his brother die in front of him

21:31you know that's even more tragic because he's not here to tell the story

21:39so at least at least carmelo will be free one day at least he will try to pick up the

21:48pieces of his

21:49life in some way shape or fashion one day but austin will never get that opportunity

21:58that opportunity that opportunity was completely snuffed out gone

22:06you know so yeah i mean silliness man silliness we we we got we we got it we got to

22:14teach kids one um

22:16control your anger control your anger and honestly teach them how to fight

22:25teach them how to fight why why are you why are you pulling out a weapon first off why are

22:31you in

22:32the tent when they actually leave but we passed that buddy so past that what why are you pulling out

22:38a

22:38weapon like if you really got a problem and i'm not advocating for violence but if you're if you

22:46really got an issue then you you couldn't fight him you could you couldn't you couldn't use your hands

22:53you know you don't know what the right hook is like well i i i'm confused

23:02because i ain't never seen any mess like that like i said i've seen a lots of fights in lots

23:08of them

23:09i ain't never seen nobody reaching to a bag no none of that i just seen people slap snuff picked

23:15up

23:15slam punch i mean punched kicked all of it i've just seen a melee where you where you just got

23:22everybody it's damn near a marsh pit everybody swinging i've seen it all nobody got shot nobody

23:30got stabbed nobody died everybody went home some people's pride was hurt because they got they they

23:37got they got the a whooped on camera and everybody at school got to see it

23:43but they got to they got to live you know what i'm saying so yeah that that is just silly

23:50but it

23:51also it also goes to show you know how fragile we are as humans too as complex of machines as

24:00we are

24:01you know our bodies do such crazy things without us even really even thinking about it like our body just

24:09automatically does it you know like when's the last time you thought about breathing

24:14you just do it you know it's involuntary like it just happens like you it's not like you have to

24:20sit

24:21there me think breathe breathe you know it's not like you have to think about that like it just happens

24:28but then also we've all seen situations and circumstances where people have been shot

24:34multiple times or stabbed multiple times and they've lived and it's like dang how was how were

24:42they able to come through that but you get poked in just the wrong spot just once not even by

24:48giant

24:49utensil or knife whatever and it's lights out it's crazy it's crazy um condolences to the family

25:00obviously you know having to bury a child it has to be extremely traumatic and sad you know but

25:09y'all get in the comments let me know your thoughts of your opinions did he get enough time

25:13is it too much time will he win his appeal what do you think let me know stay safe out

25:20there peace and love

25:21i'm out

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