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À l'occasion de la sortie de son nouveau film, Disclosure Day, retour sur la carrière et les thématiques récurrentes de Steven Spielberg. Avec en prime, l'interview de Colman Domingo, l'un des acteurs du film.
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00:00Colman Domingo, c'est bon de vous rencontrer.
00:01C'est bon de vous rencontrer aussi.
00:03Première question.
00:05Aujourd'hui, tu es à l'affiche de Disclosure Day,
00:07un nouveau film de Steven Spielberg.
00:09Qu'est-ce que ça fait d'être à l'affiche
00:12d'un nouveau film d'un réalisateur aussi important ?
00:13Oh man, c'est une bonne question.
00:15C'est incroyable.
00:17Il a eu une excellente filmographie.
00:21Il a créé des films les plus incroyables
00:25pour les générations.
00:26Et l'idée d'être l'un des leads,
00:28c'est extraordinaire.
00:29Surtout ce film.
00:30C'est comme Steven's heart.
00:33C'est comme les questions qu'il a aujourd'hui
00:37sur notre humanité
00:38et comment nous nous connectons avec l'autre.
00:41Et parfois, tu as besoin d'un événement
00:43pour arriver à tous ensemble,
00:46au moins pour les donner à leurs angels mieux.
00:49Donc, c'est vraiment important
00:51d'être partie d'un film comme ça.
00:53Moi j'ai vu le film justement ce matin.
00:55et effectivement, c'est un film qui est presque Spielbergien
01:00dans l'idée qu'il y a beaucoup de thèmes
01:01qui sont chers à Steven Spielberg.
01:03Est-ce que vous avez le sentiment que c'est aussi un film
01:06qui est un peu dans la lignée des grands films de Steven Spielberg ?
01:09Je pense que, à l'endée du jour,
01:11Spielberg est très...
01:12Il semble que beaucoup de ses films
01:14ont un grand event sur le temps.
01:16Mais c'est-ce que c'est-ce que les gens
01:17et les gens s'entendent.
01:19Et cette fois, c'est-ce que le event
01:21est...
01:22C'est-ce que c'est-ce que c'est-ce que c'est-ce que c'est-ce que
01:24c'est-ce que c'est-ce que c'est-ce que c'est.
01:39C'est-ce que c'est-ce que c'est Spielberg, pour moi.
01:42Tu vois ?
01:44Quels sont tes premiers souvenirs avec le cinéma de Steven Spielberg ?
01:48Oh, well, watching his movies ?
01:50Yeah.
01:50Ok, ok.
01:51Watching his movies...
01:52I think, you know,
01:53I think my first Spielberg movie was E.T.
01:56You know, I watched that when I was, I think, maybe 12 years old or something.
02:01And I was just like...
02:02I don't know.
02:02I just love the fact that he sort of made it...
02:04Because his intention was he was making a children's film.
02:07He didn't realize that he was making something for everybody.
02:10That was my first time.
02:11And then I think later...
02:13I think I became more of a Spielberg junkie when it came to The Color Purple.
02:17And that's something that I think that...
02:19I didn't realize it got as much more complicated.
02:23It was complicated around that for some reason.
02:28But he was the perfect director for that movie.
02:31And it's really...
02:32It's one of those movies I've watched probably over 50 times.
02:34Even before I did the musical version of it.
02:38But I just loved his storytelling and how gentle he was.
02:41But how he really...
02:42He's someone, as you get to know Steven,
02:44He goes deep into research and history and understanding culture and everything.
02:48And I think he just knocked that movie out of the park.
02:51And I think you were already supposed to work together in 2010.
02:55Is this collaboration coming to the right now?
02:58Well, yeah.
02:58We first were going to work together on a film that eventually got jettisoned away.
03:04I auditioned for a film that didn't happen.
03:06And then I just...
03:07I had hopes and dreams to work with him.
03:09But then I worked just as the opening soldier in Lincoln.
03:12And that was a small...
03:13It was a small one.
03:14It was a couple days of work, but I felt really fulfilled.
03:16And I thought, okay, maybe that's it.
03:18But I really loved working with him.
03:20And then I would see him throughout the years at events and all.
03:23And it was nice.
03:23We were just always really warm with each other.
03:27And then when this film came about, he said...
03:31When he wrote this, he said, only I could play this, which is beautiful.
03:34And so the idea that he's been thinking about me all these years,
03:36like he wanted more from me.
03:38And I also wanted more with him.
03:39I wanted a real experience with him.
03:42So I'm so grateful that he...
03:45I think every single one of the actors that he dreamed of for Disclosure Day
03:50are the actors that he cast, which is beautiful.
03:52But nobody can say no to Steven Spielberg.
03:56You know, I've heard that some people have said no to Steven Spielberg,
03:59and I question that.
04:00Because it makes you question them.
04:03Because you're like, well, how could you?
04:05Because Steven wants to give you...
04:07Even with his minor characters, he wants to give you something rich
04:10and something purposeful.
04:13Even if it's just forwarding the story along.
04:15And that's the kind of director...
04:16He's part of a short list of directors that I always will work with
04:20who just... Steven calls me and says,
04:22come on, do you part of something?
04:24I'll just say yes.
04:25Of course, those directors usually say,
04:28I want you to take a look at this, see if this is right for you.
04:30He's always very gracious.
04:32You know, but he should know that most actors will drop everything to work with him.
04:36Yeah, of course.
04:36Because I just want to be in his world.
04:37Par rapport à ton personnage, tu joues Hugo,
04:40qui est l'homme qui sait tout dans ce film.
04:44Comment tu as approché justement un rôle comme celui-ci?
04:48Comment tu l'as préparé?
04:49We had to create a really strong background for him, which is beautiful.
04:54Steven, first, we first started to talk about him
04:57and really started to do some research about people who've had experiences
05:01and people who believe people have had experiences.
05:04And in particular, there was one doctor of psychology
05:08who used to teach at Harvard University named John E. Mack.
05:12And he was really like a clinical psychologist.
05:16He worked with people and studied people who've had these experiences
05:18with UAPs and UFOs, aliens, you name it.
05:21Yeah.
05:22And he believed them.
05:23And so I really...
05:24And I looked at sort of his mannerisms and he was very well regarded
05:29before he started to do this work with people of experience.
05:32And then Harvard shunned him and things like that.
05:35People were like, oh, that's too much now.
05:37But I think his...
05:38But he really did believe.
05:40And so really...
05:40And he was very earnest about it.
05:42And so I really watched him a lot and even just his mannerisms
05:46and his sort of...
05:47It felt that he felt really in touch and in tune.
05:51And he always had a bit more love, a loving hand extended to people.
05:56And so as Steven and I were developing him, Steven would give me guidance just to say,
06:02remember, Hugo's not afraid.
06:06He has so much hope and belief in people.
06:10Yeah.
06:11Let that be your guiding principle.
06:12And so with each scene, even though the film has a clock on it,
06:18it's constantly in propulsion.
06:20You know what I mean?
06:23Yeah.
06:24I still must have a sort of a gracious hand, a calm hand, and a loving hand.
06:31And so I think that that's been my role, which was very tricky for me
06:35because I really thought, oh, we've got to get the information.
06:37We've got to move fast.
06:38You know, you, you hold the container for everyone.
06:42So you know that they'll get there and just give them all that they need.
06:47It's interesting that you talk about love because you play Hugo.
06:51Colin Firth plays our character.
06:54And we could think that you're the gentil and it's the bad,
06:57but your relationship is a little more subtle than that.
07:01How was it?
07:02You had a big scene of face-to-face.
07:04How did you prepare that?
07:06Oh man, first of all, Colin Firth is one of the great actors.
07:10Yeah.
07:11And he's so generous.
07:13So that already, I was so excited to play off of him and play with him as well.
07:18And we built, our chemistry was the fact that we have, I won't give anything away,
07:23but we, you could tell that they had a very close relationship in the past.
07:27Yeah, we understand that.
07:28You understand that in the film, but then there's been, then it divided itself.
07:32And one got a bit more philosophical and believed that this is a good thing for us.
07:37and the other one thought it would be more challenging.
07:39So therefore there's, they were synced as brothers in this business,
07:43but then the ideology's changed.
07:45Exactly.
07:46And I think that's exactly, that's the, I think that's the center of like,
07:50why there's conflict in the film.
07:52You know, that's the central conflict of like, is it better for humanity?
07:55Or is it not so good for humanity?
07:57But then who, and then who's playing God?
08:01You know?
08:01Yeah.
08:15You know, it's not, I think it's just about scale and size.
08:20I think, since my foundation is in the theater, I know that I have things to always help me get
08:25my work done.
08:26And I think that that's something I depend on.
08:28I have a rigor and a practice.
08:30Yeah.
08:30A rehearsal of research and, and figuring things out of making decisions about body language and voice and text.
08:38And all these subtleties that I know helped me build a full human being.
08:43And that I can use in a process.
08:45Because usually, on a film and television set, the process is very truncated.
08:50But, so for me, I, no matter, no matter what I do, if I get cast in something that's shooting
08:56in a month, I go straight to rehearsal.
08:58Before, before I actually have rehearsals.
09:00I have my own process, so I know that I'm ready.
09:03I have that rigor.
09:03So I needed theater to do television and film.
09:06So for me, it is a, it is a great way in for me.
09:11Because I feel like I can, I can, I'm very efficient when it comes to getting work done and making
09:15our days in the film and television.
09:18And I know this is a different practice for some people who have only done television and film.
09:21You know what I mean?
09:21I feel like I understand how to use my time.
09:26And, you know what I mean?
09:28I do.
09:28And I think that that's, it's been really helpful for me.
09:31So I think it is not, the only thing that's different, I think, is scale.
09:35And I think it's just about learning, the thing that I learned, I used to perform for a thousand people
09:41on stage.
09:43And I used to have to make sure that everyone, that person in the back row, physically, vocally understood what
09:50I was, the action and my objective.
09:52And now it's just about making things more subtle for the camera.
09:55And just, and trusting that.
09:57Yet, I will say this, I do have this balance in my career where I do have a lot of
10:03characters that have a lot of size to them.
10:05And I think that I know that I can use that from my theater background.
10:09And then I also know how to make things a bit more subtle and distill down to something a bit
10:14more simple.
10:16Okay.
10:17Yeah.
10:18I think that's interesting too because you have a particular career.
10:20And finally, the big audience knows you for a long time.
10:25Do you feel like the celebrity was at a good time for you and that it would have been more
10:30complicated if you knew it more young?
10:31I'm very grateful that sort of this sort of chapter of my success has come at this age.
10:37I feel like that I understand who I am.
10:40And I know, I know my skills in a way that I think that where I know that I'm being
10:46celebrated in a beautiful way.
10:48And, but it's not, I don't think it's going to my head or anything like that.
10:51I don't know if I would have been prepared for that in my 20s or 30s.
10:54I just don't know.
10:55Yeah.
10:55I think that, I know that because I wasn't sort of, I didn't have adulation early on, even with things
11:03that I possibly wish that I had more eyes on or more critical response to earlier in my career, I
11:10didn't.
11:10But I think that helped me grow.
11:12I had to grow in a different way.
11:13I had to grow without that to, you know what I mean?
11:16And so for me, it was like, oh, I had to really build this house that I have now.
11:22And I know that it wasn't just given to me.
11:24I know that all that I've built now is because I've built it.
11:27I've been a part of really making strides, creating work where there wasn't work so I can see the path.
11:33You know what I mean?
11:34But before, you know, I don't know, sometimes, you know, some people get a lucky break and then they have
11:38a lot of success and that's great for them too.
11:40But I think sometimes it can, how can I say, it can sort of stymie your growth if suddenly you're
11:48just, you think that everything is supposed to get celebrated.
11:51For me, I've always just put my head down and did the work.
11:54You know, and now that suddenly as I look up, you know, my garden is in full bloom and that's
11:59really nice and people are really noticing it.
12:01But I love that now that they can also go backwards and see that I've been doing work for a
12:06long time.
12:06Yeah, exactly.
12:06When you started to play comedy, what were the comedians, men or women who could inspire you?
12:16Oh man, for comedians, I mean, oh my gosh, I would say like Eddie Murphy and Dave Chappelle and Chris
12:21Rock, who are, we're all friends and colleagues in some way now, which is wild.
12:26I would say Gilda Radner, I would say Gene Wilder.
12:30I would say, I would say some wonderful actors, like I would say, you know, James Earl Jones and Sidney
12:39Poitier and Meryl Streep.
12:43I've always, because I've always inspired people who are really experts at what they do and really have a great
12:48practice.
12:49I'm really, I'm very fascinated by the people who have such respect for the work and the craft of making
12:56work, you know.
12:57You mentioned people like Eddie Murphy, Sidney Poitier, Chris Rock. And also, these are people who have also had an
13:06important role in the Afro-American community.
13:16I think so. I think that the thing that I feel like the responsibility that I do think I have
13:21is to show people what it really takes, the work ethic that it takes, the showing up and how you
13:28show up, how you really do the work and respect the work.
13:32I always have young actors coming up to me wanting a career like mine and they ask me questions. And
13:36I say, the first thing I say is to have respect for the craft and actually, you know, when people
13:41say, oh, I want to act, you know, I want to be on Broadway, I want to do this, I
13:44want to do TV.
13:45I'm like, great. But you also know that there's regional theater, there's other places where you can get the work
13:49done. There's circus, you name it. So don't, for me.
13:52And you work for the circus.
13:53Yeah, I did everything because I wanted to work and I had a respect for the work. It wasn't about
14:00the adulation and the fame.
14:02So for me, I'm always trying to help people out to decide what do you really want.
14:07If you want a career like mine, it's someone who rolled up their sleeves and really did work and wrote
14:12and direct and acted and produced work for $500.
14:18I made my, I would write invitations for people to come out and stuff like that and, you know, did
14:24things in bars and whatever.
14:26But I'm like, that's really wanting to be a part of this tradition and to do the work.
14:31And it can't be related to sort of fame and adulation.
14:35You know what I mean?
14:36Yeah.
14:36So for me, that's my, that's where I feel like I do have a responsibility is to be a teacher
14:42more than anything, as well as the artist that I am.
14:45And I even tell students now when people say, oh, I wish I had a mentor like you or something.
14:50I said, well, just watch my interviews because I'm going to tell you, I'm going to give you some seeds
14:54that you can put in, you can plant and you things you can put in your toolbox that will hopefully
14:58not even help you be an artist in your own right, but also have a fulfilled life.
15:05You know, I think that's very important.
15:07Est-ce qu'il y a un moment dans ta carrière où tu as compris que t'étais fait pour
15:11ça?
15:11That's a great question.
15:13I think, let's see, I think I've always, even in my early twenties, I always knew that I was, I
15:20had a talent and I was useful in this field.
15:24So I think I've always known that.
15:26I just didn't know if I had the opportunity because then there's the opportunity, having the right agents, having the
15:33right representation, having the right people to answer your calls.
15:38You know, so then there's all that other stuff.
15:41But I feel like I've always believed that I had something to give.
15:44And I do know that my career looks different than anyone else's career because the choices that I've made, I
15:51know that I'm kind of singular in what I do, to be honest.
15:55I do know that, I know that I do comedy, I do drama, I write, I direct, I do musicals,
16:00I sing, I dance, and I feel like I've always, that was my own setting myself apart by just not
16:08putting boxes and limitations around my work, but just like saying, oh no, I go to whatever fuels and feeds
16:14me in the moment.
16:15And so I know that my career has a unique diversity.
16:30I said to Stephen the other day, I feel like Disclosure Day is going to become your favorite album.
16:40And with your favorite album, you might like the ballads a bit more, or you might like the high up
16:46-tempo, but it's an album where you're supposed to take from it what you will.
16:51It all depends on the way you're coming in, but there's something for everyone.
16:55You know what I mean?
16:55And you're going to listen to that cut, it's going to be your jam, and you're going to play it
17:00and play it again.
17:01Tu parais de favorite album, album préféré, quel est ton album préféré?
17:07I would actually say, I think I know what it is, because I've been listening to it over and over
17:11lately.
17:12I Want You by Marvin Gaye.
17:14Marvin Gaye.
17:15I think it's a perfect album.
17:17Yeah, but he has a lot of perfect albums.
17:19But this one's perfect.
17:20But then I'll also just say like, I don't know, Inner Visions by Stevie Wonder, great album.
17:26Yeah, he also has a lot of perfect albums.
17:27Exactly.
17:28But how about misunderstanding of Lauryn Hill?
17:32Yeah, she only has one album.
17:33She only has one, so that's the best one.
17:34So that's perfect.
17:36Exactly.
17:37She did a few others, but that was the one.
17:38Yeah, of course, with the Fujis.
17:41Thank you very much.
17:42Sure.
17:42It was a pleasure.
17:43Thank you.
17:43Thank you, my friend.
17:44I appreciate you.
17:44Thank you.
17:44Thank you.
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