00:00We will get to the remainder of the phone calls from hour number one.
00:03I'll reset it real quick, and then we are just going to add something to the mix.
00:07Look, hour one, I only highlighted the baseball labor war
00:10because there were some major salvos thrown.
00:14But it was really a conversation about you as a consumer's patience
00:18watching billionaires and millionaires fight while many of you struggle to just exist.
00:24And I think baseball better be real careful
00:27because I don't know how many people are going to be around waiting
00:31if they decide to continue to argue over money.
00:34And if you don't have baseball in 2027, you'll move on to other things.
00:40Life moves very fast.
00:42So we're having a conversation about it.
00:44And really just, look, the greed in sports right now is so over the top.
00:49It's alienating people.
00:51And I think a lot of it, it's subconscious for people.
00:53But you feel differently about sports.
00:55And a lot of sports, they don't feel real anymore.
00:59They don't feel emotional.
01:00You don't feel the hatred.
01:02You don't feel the rivalries.
01:03Because the money's taking it all away.
01:05If I got to see another jersey swap after a playoff game,
01:08I want to throw a piano out the window.
01:11I can't stand it.
01:13No, you don't get the passion anymore, Mike.
01:15And yeah, we're even fans where you're like,
01:18oh my goodness, it just ruined my day.
01:20My team just lost.
01:22It's just like, all right, you know what, we'll just go get that guy next year
01:24and bring him on our team.
01:25And then we'll win or we'll pay for it if it's college sports.
01:29There is no more passion.
01:31They're losing that thing.
01:32We need to get to that today.
01:34Put it this way.
01:37We, if it was 2026, Michigan State, Notre Dame,
01:41and they lost the way they did, we wouldn't get that famous rant from you.
01:44No.
01:44Because you wouldn't care.
01:46No, because it's sports a joke.
01:46You'd be like, oh, we lost?
01:48Huh, okay.
01:48Sports a joke.
01:49Look at today.
01:50We're going to get to it hopefully in the 4 o'clock.
01:52I genuinely want to have this discussion about Brendan Sorsby
01:55and this idea of the NCAA ruled, you gambled on college football.
02:00In fact, you bet on games your team was involved in.
02:03And then you call the wambulance to try to file an injunction against the NCAA.
02:08Son, the rules are the rules.
02:10What do you want me to tell you?
02:11Like, we'll get into it, but like, Rico, I can't even believe.
02:15But I had a gambling problem.
02:17Once again, flow chart, this is why you're not.
02:21Why don't you go handle your own business, son, and get better?
02:24Tell the cop you got a speeding problem.
02:25It's still a ticket.
02:26What do you want me to say, kid?
02:28I got a heavy foot, officer.
02:31Right, I'm Tom Dempsey.
02:33I got a club foot.
02:34It's all steel.
02:35What?
02:36There's no nerve endings in it.
02:38All right.
02:38So that's part one.
02:41Part two we wanted to bring up because yesterday was a pretty impactful day in the NFL.
02:47You had the Super Bowl favorite, add Miles Garrett.
02:51You had the team that went to the Super Bowl in the AFC, add A.J. Brown.
02:56And naturally, it sparked a debate where you know how Rico and I want to run things.
03:02And look, Rico's team runs that way.
03:03John Lynch is usually all in all the time.
03:07And they've been to two Super Bowls, had the lead in the fourth quarter.
03:10They lost an overtime game to Michael Jordan.
03:13I can't change that.
03:14I'm not going to act like that's a failure.
03:16You know, the Rams, Les Snead, FDM Picks, they've won a Super Bowl.
03:20They've been there.
03:21They're probably heading there again this year.
03:23You talk about Howie Roseman and the Eagles.
03:26You talk about John Schneider and the Seahawks.
03:28Well, it sparked a debate about aggression.
03:30And I want to kind of now zoom out and go, okay, between the four GMs in this town, Steve
03:37Iserman, Scott Harris, Trajan Langdon, and Brad Holmes, which GM annoys you the most with
03:44their conservative approach?
03:47It's another way of asking a question of who do you think is trying the most in this town
03:52and who do you think is trying the least?
03:55But when I ask you what GM and the way they run their team, chaps your ass the most, I
04:04think it's an interesting conversation because I think people are unhappy at different levels
04:09with each of these GMs.
04:11That's a really good question when I saw that on the sheet.
04:15It takes some time, but I want you to think through it.
04:19And we can go one by one.
04:21No, I've fought through it.
04:24And for me, it's Iserman.
04:29Because you're not making bold moves, but you're also not using the kids in your minor league
04:37system.
04:38You don't want to part with them, but you're not going to play them.
04:42So what exactly are you doing?
04:45What do we have to look forward to?
04:48Like the other GMs, like we eventually got McGonagall up here.
04:52And then look, Scott Harris spent money.
04:54It didn't work out, but he spent money.
04:57He even got Frambois Valdez.
04:58He did some things.
05:01Look, the Lions, as much as I would love to add an edge rusher, they drafted well.
05:07They are now a competitive team.
05:09The Pistons, you know, a couple of years ago, you were at 14 wins.
05:13You've gotten better.
05:14Now you need to take that next step.
05:16Iserman is stuck in neutral.
05:18He hasn't moved.
05:20He hasn't done anything.
05:21He won't lose his pieces.
05:24They're too precious for him, but they're also not ready to play for him.
05:28So what exactly do you have in Grand Rapids?
05:31What exactly is going to help this team out in a few years?
05:34When are you going to make a move that it's like, okay, that's seismic.
05:39That's going to change the game.
05:41That's going to put Detroit back on the map.
05:43Dare you say hockey town.
05:45But right now I got nothing from him.
05:48It's you almost want to put a mirror under his nose.
05:51Like Steve, are you alive?
05:53Are you still there?
05:54The Greg Monroe breathing test?
05:55Yes.
05:58That's me.
06:00It's interesting as you wonder if the wings have reached such levels of
06:04irrelevance that if people will make that selection, nothing you said is
06:07wrong, but they have the longest playoff drought in the sport.
06:12Once again, we, we lost out on the ability to trade for a superstar this year
06:16because of Steve's, you know, rigid nature.
06:18Didn't want to put Edvinson in a deal.
06:21And we're sitting here now this summer going, what's the move now?
06:24You're not wrong.
06:25I don't know.
06:26I'm kind of workshop in the Trajan Langdon thing.
06:29I really hated his, his speech after the season.
06:33And now you're already seeing it and you know where it's coming from.
06:36You're already starting to see the little articles pop up from the usual
06:39suspects.
06:40A sore Thompson is irreplaceable.
06:43And it's like, Oh, okay.
06:44We're going to do this again.
06:45So basically I don't include a sore in any deal.
06:49I'm capping what deals I get to make.
06:52And now you start to see more of the articles.
06:54They're not on the Lowry marketing.
06:56They're not on the Trey Murphy's.
06:58They're on the Kyrie Irving's and the Kawhi Leonard's.
07:02And you're like, Oh, okay.
07:04This is what we're going to do.
07:05No.
07:06I saw the handwriting on the wall there.
07:08That's why you made fun of me.
07:09I'm like, Mike, I'll assume or bust.
07:13That's, that's the level that they're going.
07:15They're not trying to get that difference maker,
07:19but at least they do something.
07:20Like I don't see anything with the wings.
07:23No, I, if I end up in a certain place, I know what the wings, not making the playoffs.
07:29And I, I know the lions missed it, but I still view them as good.
07:33But it's weird to say that the team who made it back to back years would be the guy that
07:39annoys me the most,
07:40but it would be Scott Harris.
07:41I think if, if I was forced into it, he's been here longer than Trajan.
07:45He's made some comments that have just driven me up the wall.
07:49And the way he chooses to build a baseball team is just, it's not for me.
07:56And it's going to be fascinating this deadline.
07:59Cause you know, what's going to happen.
08:00They were losing at an unsustainable level.
08:03They were on pace for 59 wins.
08:05These jokers are going to win some games.
08:07Go 12 to 15.
08:08I don't do something silly, but then it'll be twice as hilarious.
08:12If they don't trade Scoobo thinking they're going to go and win it all.
08:15Like I want to know from you guys.
08:18And for me, yeah, Holmes, it's just Brad.
08:22I think it's choking on his own arrogance.
08:25Like you could be the leader in the clubhouse.
08:28If you would just do a couple of things and nobody would have anything bad to say about you.
08:34The argument would be if we just take roster for roster,
08:38the lions still have the best roster in town.
08:41Exactly.
08:42And if they're healthy, it's a huge.
08:45If I understand saying, Hey,
08:48Hey, he did a good job and I'm, I'm fine there.
08:50I just, I'm with you is that they're the closest to me to winning a championship in this town.
08:58Yet they're the furthest away from ever being involved in a move like yesterday.
09:03That one piece.
09:04So I, I hear you there.
09:05I do.
09:06I want to hear from the people two, four, eight, five, three, nine, 97, 97.
09:10David, do you, do you have an initial or do you want to wait?
09:13I do have an initial it's a, it's Trajan Langdon.
09:17And I can hear people say, well, he hasn't been here that long.
09:20It doesn't take that long to flip things in the end or to annoy David.
09:24That's very true.
09:26Um, you come off a Nick series and then you basically, you do nothing.
09:30You get, uh, Duncan Robinson and Karis LeVert, baby.
09:36That's what you do after a Nick series, knowing Halliburton was going to be down.
09:43Tatum was going to be down.
09:44So the East was wide open for you.
09:47Empty trade deadline where you got a soulless ginger.
09:50Well, that, that, see, that came later that came after you're not winning games.
09:55And it's like, now we're there, go make a move.
09:58And you don't Kevin.
09:59Are you, are you future casting a quiet off season or an off season?
10:04That'll anger you for the Pistons.
10:07Cause that's what it feels like.
10:08You're future casting.
10:09It just, I know what this, I know what it would be.
10:13Yes.
10:13What is it?
10:14Are you with Rico?
10:15You think it'll be an IO to Soma type thing, which I I'm leaving.
10:20That's the move.
10:21I don't even think it's going to be that.
10:23It might be a move worse than that.
10:25Oh my goodness.
10:25Not even that name people.
10:27Where are you with it?
10:28Cookies had a nice conversation on this this morning.
10:31I think all four could be selected, but what, which GM with their presence,
10:37with their public comments, with the way they run their team has you, uh,
10:44highly annoyed, aggravated in this town, two, four, eight, five, three, nine,
10:4897, 97.
10:50We'll get with some of the calls.
10:51And again, we've still got people from our number one.
10:53We're a rap about the baseball issue and money in sports.
10:55Happy to do it.
10:56Happy to do it.
10:56Happy to do it.
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