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00:00Overreaction or reality?
00:02You're upset the Cowboys didn't make a trade for Miles Garrett or Max Crosby.
00:09Yes, reality.
00:12But I don't know, Kevin, if this team, somebody said it's like Pluth, like the Pluth family banana stands.
00:24Not so much Max Crosby, but a Miles Garrett, I think, is a phenomenal player.
00:30But I don't know exactly when the Cowboys are going to go, we're there.
00:38Okay.
00:39Because you've seen them at places where they're just like, we won't pull the trigger on that trade.
00:44We aren't willing to give up this to get ourselves out of a position of getting the future whatever in
00:50the draft.
00:51And because I think, does that probably have to do with a lot of the finances of everything?
00:56I'm sure.
00:56And how cheap draftable players are?
00:58Yes.
00:58And so they're like, why pay that much money for a guy?
01:02But then you look at the A.J. Brown deal, and you're like, that's $18 million for a guy.
01:06Yeah, for two years.
01:07They've got to eat most of the money.
01:09So, yeah, to go get a Miles Garrett and make yourself that much better for the window that you have,
01:17because it's not like Dak has a 15-year window left.
01:20Right.
01:20Or an eight-year window, where you're going to take advantage of all the draft picks you have in the
01:25future.
01:25But you also don't want to be in a position where, well, the Cowboys don't,
01:31where they don't have those draft picks in five years.
01:34Well, the Rams are like, that's fine with us.
01:37We'll just continue to add better players, and our coaching will put us in good positions to win.
01:41Five years, $138 million for Miles Garrett is the carryover to the Rams.
01:50That seems cheap.
01:51And I think they might be dead money free after two years.
01:56And do you think that he's going to have that steep of a fall off by the time he's 35?
02:03Not necessarily, but let's say.
02:05He's not going to be 24, 24 and a half sacks at 35.
02:10If he's awesome for two years, their cap hit the next two years, holy moly, for Garrett is two years,
02:1724 million total.
02:22Seems pretty good.
02:24That's crazy.
02:25Yeah, so I would absolutely, absolutely be involved.
02:29Alec, same question for you.
02:31Bonus question or statement.
02:33You wish Les Snead was the Cowboys GM.
02:38Oh, geez.
02:39I didn't even have time to say Rick bonus because that kind of blew my mind.
02:46Reality, I am upset that the team didn't make one of those two moves, specifically Crosby,
02:52just because after the whole debacle with the Ravens, I feel like his price went down.
02:56And now, I think the price has gotten even less.
03:01I don't think he's that expensive of a player to get in a trade now,
03:04other than the fact that the Raiders seem overly committed, at least publicly,
03:08to accommodating for him and keeping him.
03:11But I do think it would be nice, like Corey said, to capitalize on the fact that
03:16you do have the highest paid quarterback in the NFL.
03:19You made that decision.
03:21You need to put those pieces around the team to give him the best chance to succeed
03:26before that time runs out and then the clock restarts
03:29and you have to go back into evaluating the position all over again.
03:33And then, really, your playoff window is completely sealed
03:36until you make the right decision once again going forward.
03:39So, the semantics of it all, I would rather have a GM that does make those moves.
03:46Yes.
03:48Les Snead, specifically, I think I would like to have him as my GM
03:54because even when he does have draft picks, he hits on them.
03:58That's the thing that I feel like goes underappreciated when it comes to him specifically,
04:02is he does trade away his premium picks very often, especially the first-round picks.
04:07He almost never makes those picks.
04:09But in the second, third, fourth rounds, he's getting players that are starting for him
04:15every year and are making impact plays.
04:18You look at guys like Puka and then Jared Verse.
04:20You know, whenever he does draft, he trusts his process and his system.
04:26I think he's one of the best in football for multiple reasons,
04:29but I think he's, in that respect specifically, I think he's underappreciated.
04:33When he makes those trades, though, doesn't he usually get a top-five player in the league?
04:38Yeah.
04:39Yes.
04:39There's no question when he makes those trades.
04:41Everybody's like, yeah, of course.
04:43It makes sense.
04:44And to be able to pull off that with a draft pick that's a, you know, whatever number it is,
04:50it's not going to be a number one overall.
04:52Right.
04:52To be able to do that for that, pretty brilliant stuff.
04:56Now, I don't think I got an opportunity to ask you this because you were out a couple of days
05:01last week,
05:01so I'll throw this to you with new information.
05:05So the Browns have two picks in next year's draft.
05:08Okay.
05:09First-round picks.
05:10The Jets have three first-round picks in next year's highly touted NFL draft.
05:18Overreaction to reality, in the next three years, the Jets will make the playoffs.
05:25It's been 16 years?
05:2915 years?
05:34Don't do it.
05:36Reality.
05:38Oh!
05:39I might extend more teams to get in the playoffs at some point.
05:44So you view it as an expansion of the playoffs, not anything to do with the Jets and their graphics.
05:51Yeah, no, this is, I mean, listen, it's a tough division with the Bills and the Patriots being good again.
05:59So it's going to take a while, but they actually had a nice draft this year,
06:04and I think they can have another nice draft with those three first-round picks next year.
06:10So I think that, like, it's young talent that's on the way.
06:13Three years might be too fast.
06:14Yes, you might be right, Kevin, when the don't do it.
06:17It might be too quick, but because you need time for those to develop.
06:22For sure.
06:22You know what?
06:23Quite honestly, when Mike talks about prospects in baseball, it kind of goes the same way for football as well.
06:28Those prospects might not turn out.
06:30The proven commodity players, they can turn out for you.
06:33So I guess that's the way that the Rams look at it is the proven commodity dudes.
06:38That's who I want leading the way, but I'll draft smartly in the second through fourth round.
06:43Now, to kind of stick with this theme, overreaction or reality, the Rams are the team most under the microscope
06:52now this year.
06:53NFL.com put out an article about an hour ago about this, and they have the Rams at No. 2.
06:59So they disagree, but I disagree with them.
07:03Overreaction or reality, the Rams are the team most under a microscope this year now.
07:08Yes, and most capable of being under that microscope and succeeding.
07:13Agreed.
07:13Miles Garrett's not going to let, like, you just saw he broke the sack record.
07:17He did.
07:18Didn't matter.
07:19Like, the pressure that came along with it.
07:22And he knows what it takes to be there.
07:25He knows the level it takes to be successful.
07:27Matthew Stafford has won a Super Bowl finally after years of being in Detroit and being incapable of building and
07:34having a team around him to do it.
07:35So, yeah, I think that it is a very capable team.
07:38It does still have the Puka Nakua offseason situation.
07:41They have lots of contracts that are up in the air, too.
07:45So there's a lot going on there.
07:47Will those guys play well under contract seasons?
07:50Right.
07:50You know, those are big deals, too.
07:52You know, you just said something that's got me intrigued.
07:54Will, like, the Rams become the franchise that everyone clamors to get to because you're like, oh, they got Stafford
08:00a Super Bowl, they got Garrett a Super Bowl, and they were on garbage teams.
08:04I don't know.
08:05Maybe.
08:05Overreaction or reality to you then, Alec?
08:09The Rams are the team most under the microscope this year.
08:13Reality, and honestly, I thought they were going to be even before the Miles Garrett trade.
08:18You know, NFL.com has the Bills at one and the Rams at two.
08:22The Bills never are.
08:24They always get the pass because they're miserable in the playoffs, and they have been for a long time, and
08:30because they have, debatably, the best quarterback in the NFL in Josh Allen.
08:35So they're never totally underneath the biggest microscope, I don't feel like.
08:39Like, if anything, I would listen to an argument on, like, the Seahawks before the Miles Garrett trade, just because
08:47reigning champs, and they didn't do too much to keep some of those pieces in place from the title run.
08:53So it would be, okay, was it a product of the sum of all the pieces versus really, really good
08:58coach, really, really good GM?
08:59Now, I think it just solidifies my thought even beforehand that they made the Trent McDuffie trade.
09:06They went out and signed Watson.
09:08They made some moves that said, we are capitalizing on one to two final years of MVP-level quarterback play,
09:18and then we're transitioning to a rookie quarterback contract and hoping that that makes sense afterwards.
09:23So, really, this whole time, they've been the most under the microscope for me because they have to win this
09:30year for any of this to make sense.
09:32People aren't going to kill them if it doesn't work, but I think people are going to look at game
09:37by game.
09:38Any little mistake, they're going to be like, well, they gave up a lot to get here.
09:41I think most of the top of the list is pretty spot on with one glaring omission for me.
09:47It goes Bills, one, Rams, two, just in terms of teams most under the microscope, Chiefs, three, Cowboys, four, Ravens,
09:58five, Eagles, six, Bengals, seven, Giants, eight, and Patriots, nine.
10:04I think that is crazy.
10:06The Patriots have to be in the top five.
10:08The Patriots might have to be in the top three.
10:11Where's that list from again?
10:12NFL.com.
10:13Seems smart on them to be like, oh.
10:14Protecting themselves.
10:16That thing that happened with the head coach, not such a big deal, guys.
10:21We're talking about on the field.
10:22That's what they're trying to see.
10:23That's what I see.
10:24Well, let's focus on the field.
10:25I think you're right, though.
10:26A team that was the defending AFC champions, they were in the Super Bowl, you just traded
10:31for one of the more mercurial players in the NFL, and then, oh, not to mention, your head
10:41coach was cheating on his wife and banging a reporter over the span of like six years.
10:46And now people even have questions about, like, her child's parental lineage and all
10:51of that.
10:52So, anyways.
10:54Did she tweet about the trade?
10:56I would assume she is no longer on social media for the time being, at least not under
11:02her real name.
11:03How many parody accounts were made yesterday?
11:06Oh, my gosh.
11:07Not enough.
11:09That's a fair point.
11:11Overreaction or reality?
11:13The importance of OTAs is overrated.
11:17I take you to Dan Campbell.
11:18Right?
11:19He said, there's a lot of guys who have done well for two days in pajamas.
11:23I'm done with the hype for the pajama party in May.
11:27We'll find out in training camp who's who.
11:29That's true.
11:31That's the absolute truth.
11:33When you see, now, that being said, you still don't run, not a lot of people run their training
11:39camps physically enough.
11:41Right.
11:42And you know Campbell doesn't think it's physical enough.
11:46But that is more of the battleground.
11:48Again, this is where you're just trying to get guys on the field, get them in position,
11:53start letting them visualize it.
11:56But then, Kevin, you know, we've talked about this.
11:57When we're out at training camp, we're like, how many walkthroughs did we have this week?
12:01Right.
12:02Do we really need that many walkthroughs?
12:04Or, like, what is camp right now?
12:06Yeah.
12:07So, mostly leading up to the first game is the first time some of those dudes.
12:12I mean, is Dak going to play any preseason this year?
12:14I would assume not.
12:16And so, I wonder, again, what we're looking at.
12:18Is it another Joe Milton-run group this year?
12:23So, yeah, he's right.
12:24But you do have to get people kind of started on the same page with these younger players,
12:30get them around the veterans a little bit,
12:32and then get these guys into the building, show them around a little bit,
12:37let them know where the bathrooms are.
12:39Alec, it goes to you, overreaction to reality.
12:41The importance of OTAs is overrated.
12:44Reality, with the exception of teams that have undergone major personnel and staffing changes.
12:51Head coaching, for sure.
12:52Exactly.
12:52When you have a new head coach or you have a new actual play caller,
12:56not the offensive coordinator that's underneath an offensive play calling head coach,
13:01not one of those changes.
13:03If you have a new signal caller in there of any kind,
13:06I think it's important just because you can't have enough of an early start
13:11to get some of that stuff installed and get some of the language
13:14kind of going around the locker room and whatnot
13:17of everybody getting on the same page like Corey was just mentioning.
13:20Other than that, it's just us as a community, we are fiends for football.
13:25We want more.
13:27We want reasons to talk about it.
13:28We want drama.
13:30It doesn't really matter for teams like the Seahawks.
13:33It doesn't matter for teams like the Rams, even after making a blockbuster trade.
13:38It doesn't matter because we know what they are.
13:41Other than that, it's just another thing to talk about,
13:44which is nice for people who are just total fiends like me.
13:47And I won't read it on air, Alec, but I want you to check out the fan text
13:51where there's a really top-notch Diana Rossini dinosaur joke.
13:55So overreaction or reality?
14:00Yesterday, we were 100 days out from the start of the NFL season.
14:04We didn't get to it because of the Miles Garrett news.
14:07So overreaction.
14:08What happened with Miles Garrett?
14:09He got traded.
14:10Overreaction or reality?
14:11What was the compensation?
14:13A lot.
14:14The way the NFL has taken over the year-round calendar makes you feel like football really
14:19isn't gone as long as it actually is.
14:22Like, there's no real football for seven months.
14:25But it doesn't feel like that, does it?
14:27Oh, no.
14:28And, I mean, Jerry talks about that all the time.
14:30It's exactly what Jerry Jones wanted.
14:32It's a shame we have to play the game.
14:38You were excited about the draft.
14:40Our ratings numbers crushed.
14:43Right.
14:43Because the draft coverage on this station is phenomenal.
14:46And it just carried over from one show to the next to the next and just stayed better.
14:52Get anywhere in this thing.
14:54And you were just like, you felt the injection into the vein, as Alec was talking about.
14:59You're a sicko for it.
15:00And it is entertaining.
15:02And then, you know, the Soresby story.
15:05That's another little element that goes into it.
15:08Even the college football discussion, the NFL benefits from that as well.
15:12So, yeah, and the way that they've kind of looked at their schedule and known, if we
15:20take this much time off, all we need is one headline in between these two weeks that'll
15:25give us this.
15:26And then brought us, would he take off, was it June to the middle of July?
15:30And he'd be like, all right, and I'll be back at that time.
15:32Right.
15:32And then we hit the ground running.
15:34And they're still going to make sure that things like this are available to you.
15:38So, and then, man, we got the Roussini story for a few weeks, which just, they were like,
15:42how do we get that back in the conversation somehow?
15:45Alec, what did you think about that dinosaur joke there?
15:50I'm over the dinosaur jokes, but that one, that one was top notch.
15:54Okay.
15:55That was great work.
15:55That's all I needed to hear.
15:56And then the question goes to you.
15:58Overreaction to reality.
15:59The way the NFL is taken over the year-round calendar makes you feel like football isn't
16:05gone as long as it actually is.
16:07Reality.
16:08There's always something to be, you know, spoken for.
16:11Even like Corey said, when it comes to college football, it somehow ties back into the NFL.
16:16Brennan Soresby, that magically has its way to tie into the NFL with the supplemental draft
16:23as a way for him to keep playing football.
16:26NIL has a way of impacting the NFL game.
16:30It's so amazing how it feels like the entire sport is tailor-made to the NFL now.
16:37And it's all intertwined.
16:39It all has something to do with it.
16:41You're even getting stories about high-ranking NFL execs getting jobs as GMs in college football.
16:47And it's like, well, how does their NFL success translate to the college scene?
16:51How can they build a team down there and vice versa?
16:54I mean, we're telling really cool stories about, you know, interns that sent letters to all 32 teams to get
17:00jobs in the NFL.
17:01Just because there's always something cool or something relevant to be spoken for when it comes to the NFL.
17:07So it's amazing how they've created this machine.
17:10Now, a couple more quick things for you.
17:12Derek Hall agreed to a three-year, $42 million extension with the Seahawks.
17:18And then we go to the Patriots where offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, talking about A.J. Brown, said,
17:25there's a force to the way he plays the game.
17:27Maybe the closest thing I've seen is Gronk.
17:30This is a big guy.
17:31And that's just a fascinating comparison.
17:33I know they both catch passes.
17:34But what do you think about the idea of kind of saying A.J. Brown is sort of Gronk-esque?
17:39Yeah, he's a, I mean.
17:41I'm assuming significantly smarter.
17:43The speed and the power that they both play with.
17:47I've also seen, I mean, Gronk at many times played with finesse.
17:51You know, which you were kind of, because you think Gronk, big Gronk, meathead, you know, kind of guy.
17:56But then all of a sudden he's making this beautiful play around the end zone.
18:02And when it came to the red zone, there was no better target because he understood the game so much.
18:07And A.J. Brown does a lot of those things, too.
18:10But then Gronk had the ability to get downfield and down a seam and beat you.
18:14I can see that because of the power.
18:16And whenever A.J. Brown was with Tennessee, I was like, dude, this dude is a physical specimen.
18:21And he's turned out to continue to be one of those dangerous receivers out there.
18:25He just didn't have a great relationship with his team this year.
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