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This episode of Healthily 360 explores three health and environmental issues. First, it examines the debate between alternative and modern medicine, highlighting the role of natural healing, Ayurveda, and lifestyle changes in managing conditions like postpartum depression.
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00:00Hello and welcome to a brand new episode of Health Free 60.
00:04On the show this week, a very special conversation with someone
00:07who is internationally renowned health educator, naturopath, nutritionist and speaker
00:14who has put all her faith in the power of nature and body to heal.
00:18We have an exclusive conversation coming up with Barbara O'Neill.
00:23Also this week, we hit the ground once again to gauge summer pollution
00:28and the impact of heat wave on people who really continue to be at the receiving end of the brutal
00:36weather.
00:37This and much more coming up on the show.
00:40I'm Sneha Mordani, this is Health Free 60.
00:44She is someone who has spoken about the power of nature to heal,
00:48the importance of improved lifestyles on health,
00:52the detrimental impact of sugar and stress and urban lifestyles,
00:56modern medicine and the secrets they hide.
01:00Some of her views have been very controversial,
01:02but she does have an insane number of followers,
01:07an insane following, so to speak,
01:09unless she speaks about alternative medicine and holistic health.
01:14Well, I caught up earlier with Barbara O'Neill
01:17and this is a conversation that you simply can't miss.
01:22So our special guest, Barbara O'Neill is with us.
01:25It's a privilege to have you on India today and have a conversation with you.
01:29You know, you've come to our country, you're in Delhi.
01:31Our country is known for what you speak about,
01:34for natural healing, for Ayurveda.
01:37We speak of alternative medicine.
01:40Unfortunately, often we are laughed at.
01:42And, you know, how do you look at this?
01:44And what do you think of the Indian system of medicine to begin with?
01:48Today or back then?
01:50Back then and even now.
01:52Of course, things have changed now.
01:53Unfortunately, I think today the Indian way of treating medicine
01:58is very much the same as the Western.
02:00And I think a lot of people are looking at that
02:02and they're realizing it's not working.
02:05The drugs may mask the symptoms, but they do not heal.
02:09And the amount of people that have had a sore shoulder,
02:12they have an operation, some it's better, some it's not.
02:15So where do they go next?
02:17And I think a lot of people are going back to the ancient ways.
02:21And for the people today who laugh at it, I laugh at them
02:25because the fact is it's been working for thousands of years
02:30and it will work again.
02:31You know, a lot of people say, and these are doctors who say,
02:34where's the evidence?
02:35You know, where is the data, where is the peer-reviewed research
02:38on what you are talking about, the natural system of medicine,
02:42on natural healing, on Ayurveda?
02:44There is no science backing it, is the argument.
02:47What do you have to tell them?
02:48I don't agree.
02:50And some people say, but Barbara, what you do is antidotal.
02:54What's antidotal?
02:55You tried it, it worked.
02:56Isn't that true science?
02:58Absolutely.
02:58And that's what I'm interested in.
03:01I'm interested in that because I have friends who've worked in science,
03:04who've worked in the research, and they say to me,
03:07Barbara, sometimes they change the figures.
03:09They said, Barbara, we did this incredible study.
03:12They came and looked at it.
03:13It wasn't what they wanted and they closed the books.
03:16So what I'm interested in is what has worked for thousands of years
03:21and what works when I try it.
03:23To me, that is science.
03:25What do you think of the Indian system of medicine we take from what we have?
03:29We talk of spices, herbs, which are naturally available in the country,
03:32abundantly available in the country.
03:34I've heard from doctors who say that haldi, for example,
03:38or turmeric or curcumin is rubbish, you know, it's got no healing properties.
03:43What do you have to say about these things?
03:45And what's the biggest takeaway and the biggest thing that you like about Indian medicine?
03:50Well, I say to that doctor, beware, because it's been well proven.
03:57And I know all through the West that they acknowledge the value of turmeric.
04:02They acknowledge the value of the anti-inflammatory properties of it.
04:08It's well been proven in science and also in day-to-day medicine.
04:14Many naturopaths can testify to it and many of their patients can testify to it.
04:20And so I would say to that doctor, a word of caution.
04:25Don't rubbish something that is so good and the day may come when he will need it.
04:32I also want to ask you, where are we lacking?
04:35Why is there so much mistrust, you know, created around what is from the nature, what's natural?
04:42Should we not be more open to that?
04:45And why is there very little data around these things?
04:49I think you'll be surprised that there's more data than most people realize.
04:53Medicine really doesn't want us to think that.
04:56And when I say medicine, what am I referring to?
04:59I'm referring to what holds the largest piece of the pie and what doctors are taught,
05:04which is basically the pharmaceutical companies.
05:07So they're a very wealthy company.
05:09They're the most wealthiest company in the world.
05:13And unfortunately, they're not interested in us.
05:16They're not interested in our health.
05:17They're more interested in our money.
05:19And so I believe doctors should start questioning that more.
05:23There's been a lot of whistleblows that have shown that the research has not been done.
05:28As it should be done.
05:31The beauty of, say, using turmeric is if it doesn't work, it has not hurt you.
05:36Exactly.
05:36So those beautiful natural remedies that come from the ground, we came from the ground.
05:42God created this incredible body and God created the herbs that grow out of it.
05:47They work together.
05:49Medicine calls it synergism.
05:51Working together of the natural ingredients, the natural chemicals that are in those herbs
05:58and how they work with the human body.
06:00The same sort of doctors say earthing is pseudoscience.
06:04What do you have to say about that?
06:05I'm sure, you know, we all need to be close to nature.
06:09I think there is...
06:09We do.
06:10We do.
06:10And the fact is, I'll give you some basic science on this, is the middle of the earth is hot.
06:16It's a burning fire.
06:17And when the lightning strikes, when the sun's rays go down, there's a connection.
06:22And so when we walk on that grass, there's a connection up into us.
06:28Now, some say, whoa, that sounds a little bit weird.
06:31Do you know, it's basic science?
06:34Because we are electrical people and there's electricity in the lightning.
06:39There's electricity in every cell in our body.
06:41And when you walk on the earth, you're not getting zapped.
06:45There's a beautiful gentleness about just connecting with the earth.
06:50You know, I want to ask you, a lot is being sold in the name of health and wellness nowadays.
06:56What's the big one wellness myth that you want to bust today?
07:01I believe the biggest one wellness myth is that we need supplements to get better.
07:07Do you know, the body can heal itself.
07:09Yes, there may be a time when certain herbs or certain supplements can be used to work with the body.
07:15But we've got to start with giving this body the right conditions.
07:19And one of those conditions, that's what I teach.
07:21We're going to start going to bed a bit early.
07:23We're going to start drinking more water.
07:25We're going to start eating food in its natural state.
07:28We're going to start moving this body.
07:30We're going to start exercising this body.
07:32When we do that, that supplement will be much more powerful than if you put your feet up,
07:39do nothing and expect the supplement to work.
07:42Now, there's no healing power in supplements.
07:44There's actually no healing power in drugs.
07:46It's the body and the body only that has the power to heal.
07:50So no vitamin D supplements but enough sunshine which most of us don't get.
07:54That's right.
07:54That's right.
07:55And if your vitamin D levels are very low, you might need to pep them up initially with a vitamin
08:00D supplement.
08:01But then look at why you're low.
08:05It's because you're not out there enough.
08:08You know, I have a personal experience with postpartum depression and I've been on antidepressants for five years.
08:15You know, in hindsight, I feel I could have done without it and done much more to heal myself with
08:20the help of nature.
08:21I want you to talk about that a little given that the depression rates in India and outside are going
08:26soaring high.
08:27I'm glad you touched on that because it's a very important subject.
08:32You see, antidepressants don't heal depression.
08:36Obviously, it can mask the symptoms for a while but you're not getting to the cause.
08:40And if you don't find the cause, you basically will never have total balance.
08:46Postpartum depression is a direct, it has a direct cause and that is a hormonal imbalance.
08:52So why a hormonal imbalance?
08:54So many women who are on the contraceptive pill when they were younger, which has thrown the hormones out.
08:59It's displaced happy hormone and that's progesterone.
09:03And so as you can see, it's not rocket science.
09:06All we need to do is replace happy hormone, progesterone.
09:10And the wild yam, when it's made into a cream and applied to the skin, it works with the biochemical
09:16pathways in our body to restore that happy hormone, progesterone.
09:22And the good news is I've seen many ladies, once they realise this, start applying that yam cream twice a
09:29day, three days, twice a day, three weeks a month for maybe a year.
09:35It doesn't mean they're not going to get a result sooner, but little by little by little, as the body
09:40works, as the herbs work with the body, that happy hormone is once again replaced.
09:46And then the lady can little by little start easing off the antidepressants.
09:52That's the good news.
09:53You're a young woman.
09:54You can conquer this very soon.
09:56You know, exercise, the right kind of food, enough sunshine, enough movement.
10:01I think all of this is really underplayed when it comes to treatment.
10:04When I personally believe and talk to me about it, and doctors don't advise these things, but instead put you
10:09on medicines, how unfair they've been to the patient.
10:12Well, what you said is absolutely right.
10:15And that yam cream that works with the body, if we are not exercising, if we are not going to
10:21bed early enough, it's not going to be as effective.
10:23And I believe one of the reasons why the doctors don't advise this, I've got a friend who's a medical
10:29doctor.
10:30She advises it, and the patients get up, and they go to the next doctor to get their drug.
10:36It's not a popular message.
10:38Absolutely.
10:39People want a quick fix.
10:40And I'm sorry, but there isn't one.
10:42Are you against modern medicine completely, or you think it's got very limited benefits?
10:47I'm not totally against it.
10:49When I broke my arm and my radius was broken and out of place, oh, I was very happy with
10:55the orthopedic surgeon that pulled it back into place.
10:57I was very happy with the painkilling medication, so I didn't feel him pull it back into place.
11:03I am not totally against it.
11:05But unfortunately, it's spilled out into everyday life.
11:09The simple little bits and pieces, aches and pains people have, that mods and meds, it may mask, but it
11:17doesn't heal.
11:18I'm going to ask you something which I'm very sure is going to be controversial, but I'm still going to
11:22ask you a little about your views on mammograms, pap smears,
11:27and also a little about how is that we've not found a cure for cancer.
11:32That is true.
11:33So I was speaking with a doctor.
11:37He's a Filipino doctor, a medical doctor.
11:39He's now working in Bermuda.
11:41And I was in Kuala Lumpur, and I was speaking with him, and he was asked that question.
11:46Whoa, was he strong?
11:48He said the research is now showing that those mammograms are contributing to breast cancer
11:54because just the very act of having a mammogram is damaging the tissues of a woman's breast.
12:01And I was so happy to hear what he said.
12:04But just last week I spoke with an oncologist, one of the best oncologists in India, and he said exactly
12:09the opposite.
12:09Yeah, isn't that interesting.
12:11Okay, let's have a look at this.
12:13It's not rocket scientists.
12:14The woman's breast tissue is squashed.
12:17In other words, it's being damaged when it's being squashed into that plate.
12:21And while it's in that vulnerable place, radioactive rays, which are proven to be damaged to the body,
12:28are going through those damaged tissues.
12:31And Dr. Lorraine Day, an orthopedic surgeon from San Francisco Hospital, she's passed now,
12:37but in the 1990s she put a video out showing the dangers of this.
12:42She had breast cancer.
12:43She had the figures to show how many mammograms can actually contribute to breast cancer.
12:49I will never have a mammogram, and I don't advise women to have one.
12:54There are other tests if they're concerned what this lump may be.
12:58Ultrasounds?
12:59Ultrasounds and thermograph.
13:01Okay.
13:02Your take on what's happening right now as far as our lifestyles are concerned,
13:06I'm particularly asking you about children, the kind of addiction they have to their phones.
13:11Our modern lifestyles, I believe, is wrecking our head.
13:13The single one reason why we are so sick today is because of our modern lifestyles.
13:18How far do you agree, and what should we do to rectify it?
13:21What would be your word of advice?
13:22You know, absolutely.
13:23I was listening to a lecture by an American man, and he said,
13:28every generation, the kids have been smarter than their parents, but no more.
13:34No more.
13:35And one of the reasons is that children are spending too much time on the phone.
13:39Everything is done for them.
13:41Their brains aren't getting challenged, and if you don't challenge your brain,
13:45it will not develop, and it will not grow properly.
13:48So I say to adults, please have some restrictions on children's technology time.
13:54And do you know the best way to do that?
13:57Example.
13:58Absolutely.
13:59Is that an example?
13:59More time in nature, certainly away from gadgets.
14:02Thank you so much for your time here in India today.
14:05It's my pleasure.
14:06What is lacking in India's planning when it comes to heat waves?
14:10What should the administration be doing urgently?
14:14Well, we are, and there is no other way to say it, in dire straits,
14:19as India is getting hotter and hotter.
14:23The big question also arising is why are we seeing dirty air in peak summers?
14:29What's with the summer pollution that is becoming rather so common?
14:35Wasn't it really a winter phenomenon?
14:38We decode in this ground report.
14:40We hit the ground to give you an idea about the problems
14:43that we as a country are grappling with
14:46and the possible solutions right ahead.
15:00Every year, soaring temperatures across the globe
15:03cause all kinds of problems to the people.
15:06All of this has been documented.
15:07The kind of impact that heat has on the body
15:10is being looked at by doctors
15:12and there are newer revelations that is getting made.
15:15Heat strokes are documented,
15:16but there are other problems as well,
15:18like cardiovascular ailments,
15:20also eye ailments that are becoming increasingly common
15:23because of heat.
15:25But it turns out that brutal summer months
15:27could be doing more than just making you uncomfortable.
15:31It could actually be the reason behind
15:34your breathing dirty, filthy air.
15:38So pollution isn't just a winter problem.
15:41It is becoming a summer problem as well,
15:44including ozone pollution.
15:45And there is where the concern is.
15:54During a heatwave, the atmosphere becomes more stagnant.
15:58That means pollutants from vehicles, factories
16:01and construction sites don't disperse easily.
16:05Hot weather also boosts the formation of ground-level ozone,
16:09a harmful gas created when sunlight reacts with vehicle fumes
16:14and industrial pollutants.
16:16Well, unlike the protective ozone layer high above Earth,
16:20this ozone stays close to the ground
16:22and can irritate the lungs,
16:25trigger asthma and worsen breathing problems.
16:28Heatwaves can also dry up the soil,
16:30increasing dust in the air.
16:32So does human activity.
16:34The source of pollution being dust in summers.
16:38Hotter air can act like a lid,
16:40trapping pollution closer to the surface.
16:43Well, this means people end up breathing
16:46concentrated dirty air for longer periods.
16:49Children, elderly, people with asthma,
16:51heart disease especially vulnerable.
16:54Climate change is making Indian cities hotter.
16:57In fact, India has got the maximum number of cities
17:01recording the highest temperatures across the world.
17:04Delhi really is no different.
17:06But in Delhi, the situation,
17:08the geographical location is very, very peculiar.
17:12This has got a lot to do with the position of the city.
17:16It's of course a part of the Indo-Gangetic plain
17:18that really gets very hot
17:20and throws up all the dust
17:22that is required to make Delhi so polluted
17:25even in summer months.
17:27Then we are just next to Rajasthan
17:29which has the Thar Desert.
17:31Winds blowing from there,
17:32carrying the dust here,
17:33make Delhi extremely polluted.
17:36Experts, environmentalists
17:37have continuously flagged off
17:39the problem of desertification
17:41of the national capital.
17:42As of now, to a great extent,
17:45the Aravulis act as a protective barrier.
17:47But the fear is that that too is now changing.
17:57Well, there are three different sources of dust pollution in Delhi.
18:00There are different types of dust pollution.
18:02First is natural dust.
18:04It depends on landscape, characteristics and land use.
18:08Also land cover.
18:09Second is resuspended dust generated from paved and unpaved roads
18:13when vehicles move over them.
18:15The third type is generated when prescribed norms are not followed
18:19during construction activities.
18:21Well, IIT Kanpur had identified road dust
18:24as the single largest contributor to Delhi's air pollution,
18:29accounting for 56% of PM10 emissions
18:33and 38% of PM2.5 emissions.
18:38So why has the summer of 2026 witnessed such extreme severity?
18:43Well, the answer actually lies in large-scale weather patterns,
18:47likely amplified by climate change.
18:50India appears to be entering a phase of super El Nino condition.
18:55One of its earliest consequences has been predictions
18:57of a weaker monsoon by weather agencies.
19:07Another source of air pollution in summers is ozone.
19:10We mentioned that the harmful ozone is ground level
19:13or in the tropospheric zone.
19:17It is a chemical pollutant that results from a reaction
19:19between sunlight, two groups of air pollution particles,
19:23nitrogen oxide and volatile organic compounds
19:26or VOCs as we know them.
19:28Ground level ozone is the main ingredient in smog
19:32and the main sources are motor vehicles,
19:34wood burning, industrial emissions,
19:37chemical plant refineries, cleaners,
19:39disinfectants, paints, paint strippers, varnishers.
19:43Ozone is a lung irritant.
19:45When inhaled, ground level ozone can cause
19:47short-term, long-term harm to your health.
19:51People who are most vulnerable in the dangerous effects
19:53are children, older adults and patients
19:55who are already suffering from lung diseases
19:57and people who work or exercise outdoors.
20:02The problem really is that it's not just the days
20:05that are getting hotter.
20:06It's 45 degrees, but people who simply have to be
20:09out here, out there, working and going about their lives,
20:13they simply have to do it, no other option.
20:15But a lot of people would look forward
20:17to cooler evenings, pleasant nights.
20:20But the problem is that nights are getting hotter
20:23and warmer and hotter nights
20:25is related directly to mortality rates.
20:30Ahmedabad is a city.
20:31What has this city done as part of the pioneering
20:34heat action plan, which, you know,
20:37a national one is pretty much absent in the country.
20:40So starting in 2013, there are four pillars
20:43of the heat action plan, early warning system
20:47and interagency coordination of various actions.
20:50Second pillar is the public awareness.
20:54So what should public do to protect themselves from heat?
20:59The immediate and long term measures
21:01like availability of water at about 700 places,
21:06providing shade wherever possible.
21:09What about very, very hot nights?
21:11Are nights also getting hotter?
21:13Yeah, the other part of the heat wave
21:18and heat increase is that the nights
21:20are becoming warmer.
21:22And our Ahmedabad mortality analysis also showed
21:26that if the day is more than 45,
21:29but the night is cooler than 28 degrees,
21:33mortality doesn't rise so much.
21:35But if the night becomes more than 30 degrees,
21:38just two degrees higher,
21:39and day is more than 45 degrees,
21:42the mortality jumps to two and a half times.
21:45In different ways and in many other ways,
21:47life is only getting difficult for people
21:50dealing with a double whammy of dirty air
21:53and blazing heats.
21:54With the dust coming in from the nearby states
21:58and within Lodigaran also,
21:59there's so much of dust these days.
22:00So it is definitely affecting the morning walk
22:03and the health of everybody here.
22:05But nowadays it's warmer.
22:07So running is more difficult.
22:10I get dehydrated very quickly.
22:12We used to come here for a walk
22:14or for a run every day,
22:15but now it's like it's getting unbearable
22:17to walk in the morning or even like
22:19you can see how much we are sweating.
22:21Like we feel like we might get a heat stroke any moment.
22:25Even upscale localities in NCR,
22:27the National Capital Region and Delhi City
22:29are dealing with power outages.
22:32If we are asleep,
22:34especially if you have an air conditioner
22:36which keeps going on and off during the night,
22:39you may not actually wake up,
22:40but it does affect the quality of your sleep
22:43and it affects your certain hormones in the body
22:48that leads to issues with attention,
22:53concentration the next morning in your job.
22:56It's extremely hot.
22:58It is around 37, 38 degree right in the morning.
23:01You can't stand out.
23:03Same goes for evening walks.
23:04In the evening again,
23:05it's 40 till 8 o'clock.
23:08Power cut is affecting me in all four directions.
23:11It's affecting on the health front
23:13when the frequent power cuts are taking place in Noida.
23:17It's the health front.
23:18It is on the professional front.
23:20It is also there on my quality of life
23:22and it's also affecting the budget of the house.
23:29The heat wave stands as a stark reminder
23:32of nature's growing intensity
23:34and the importance of preparedness
23:36in the face of rising temperatures.
23:42Why has the Indian drug regulator
23:45done a clampdown on injectable cosmetics?
23:49Why are your IV drips,
23:51your glutathione injections,
23:53Botox, fillers, etc.
23:55under the scanner?
23:56We decode.
24:06Beauty injections, skin boosters,
24:09whitening drips, anti-aging shots.
24:11These treatments have become increasingly popular
24:14across salons,
24:16aesthetic clinics
24:17and social media promotions.
24:19But now, India's drug regulator,
24:21the CDSCO,
24:22has issued a strong advisory
24:24against the use of injectable cosmetic products.
24:28Why are these treatments illegal?
24:30And what risks do they really carry?
24:33Well, the cosmetic industry today
24:35promises quick transformations,
24:37fairer skin, younger appearance,
24:39instant glow and whatnot.
24:40Many clinics advertise
24:42injectable treatments
24:43as simple cosmetic procedures.
24:45But laws say
24:46cosmetics are products
24:47meant for external use,
24:49such as creams,
24:50powders, lotions or sprays.
24:52But once a substance
24:54is injected into the human body,
24:56it no longer behaves
24:57like a simple cosmetic product
24:59and that's where the problem really starts.
25:02So, the products per se
25:04aren't illegal
25:05but the way it is being used
25:07may be posing some problems.
25:09It may actually
25:11legally require approval
25:12as a drug or medical treatment
25:15if it is injected.
25:17Well, the Central Drug Standard
25:19Control Organization,
25:20India's national drug regulator,
25:22has warned that
25:23injectable cosmetic products
25:25can't be marketed
25:26or used casually
25:27as beauty treatments
25:28as it is being done
25:29as we've seen.
25:30This advisory also warns
25:32against misleading advertisements,
25:35false cosmetic claims,
25:36unapproved injectable products
25:37and unsafe practices
25:38in so-called
25:40aesthetic clinics.
25:42The law says
25:43that they cannot be injected
25:45or they cannot be used
25:47with any kind of needles.
25:48So, that is exactly
25:49what it is.
25:50Okay?
25:51Now, if
25:52there are a lot of
25:54quacks
25:54or a lot of
25:55so-called
25:56beauty clinics
25:57or so-called
25:59wellness clinics
26:00or even
26:01in parlors,
26:02beauty parlors,
26:03where a lot of these products
26:04are actually being used
26:05with needles,
26:06being injected
26:07or even given IV.
26:09Also, the doses
26:10are absolutely
26:11haywire.
26:12So, we hear about
26:13and we see in our practice
26:14complications
26:15because of things
26:16which are done
26:17which are done
26:18by very high doses.
26:19Okay?
26:20Fact is,
26:21many people think
26:22cosmetic procedures
26:23are harmless.
26:24Cosmetic doesn't mean safe.
26:26Any injectable treatment
26:28requires
26:28scientific testing,
26:30approval,
26:30hygiene standards
26:31and trained
26:32medical supervision.
26:34Health experts
26:35say the crackdown
26:36is not against
26:37any medically approved
26:38aesthetic procedures.
26:40Qualified doctors
26:41may still perform
26:42legally approved
26:43treatments
26:43under proper
26:44medical regulation.
26:46If you are
26:47doing it
26:48for the right purposes,
26:49qualified doctors
26:50are allowed
26:51to inject
26:51certain drugs.
26:52But there's a loophole there,
26:54no?
26:54What are the right purposes
26:55for glutathione,
26:56for example?
26:57If you are,
26:58if,
26:59so it depends on
27:00every drug is different.
27:01I can't give you
27:01a standardized answer
27:03for one of them.
27:04Understood.
27:05Every drug is different.
27:06So if the drug
27:07is injected
27:08for the right purpose
27:09at the right doses,
27:10okay,
27:11which are safe doses,
27:12under proper
27:13monitoring conditions,
27:15then it is allowed
27:16to be injected
27:16by registered
27:17medical practitioners
27:18or for somebody
27:19who is,
27:20who is board certified.
27:21Well,
27:22the report brings us
27:23to the end
27:23of this edition
27:24of L-P60.
27:25We hope you enjoyed
27:25watching the show
27:26as much as we did,
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27:28for you.
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