00:00It is WEI 93.7. Rich, Ken, three-time Super Bowl champion Ted Johnson, and on with us right now,
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00:17And they should be proud they're spending their money today, because we got Scoops Bradford on with us, who was
00:22shaking the tree yesterday when he talked to Roman Anthony
00:26and got the truth from him after Sam Kennedy seemed to be saying something opposite of that.
00:30Rob, you've had quite a day, huh?
00:33Well, I will say this.
00:36McFarlane Energy, great partner, great sponsor, always in honor to do the Two Minute Grill, and also history was made
00:42yesterday,
00:43because that was the first time a Two Minute Grill went eight minutes.
00:46So, yeah, it was a lot going on, but I think that when I was talking to Roman, it was
00:54really matter-of-fact stuff.
00:56It was, if you listen to the rest of the interview, you can hear he's explaining exactly what's still uncomfortable
01:02for him,
01:03where he's at, both hitting, throwing, and everything else.
01:06And then I was kind of just wanting to talk to him a little bit about the perception,
01:10and not just come out and say, hey, listen, have you seen social media?
01:14But how do you deal with sort of basically people giving you advice or whatever it is?
01:21And that's when he kind of paused and gave that answer that you guys played, and it is what it
01:27is.
01:28I thought he handled it really well.
01:29I mean, like everybody else, for the life of me, I don't understand why they wouldn't just say it was
01:37a terror to begin with,
01:38other than just being freaked out by the word tear, but that's their problem,
01:42that they're freaked out by the word tear.
01:43Rob, I don't, can you describe kind of what his mannerisms were like when he was saying that?
01:48Because to me, it almost sounds like, like, I want to make sure this is perfectly clear.
01:54In other words, I've heard what people have been saying about me.
01:58Did it seem like he was trying to set the record straight in a way that was,
02:04I'm not really appreciating the type of stuff that's going around about my injury?
02:08Yeah, I think that for, and we said this a lot about Roman, right?
02:11For a 21, 22 year old, he's really mature and handles himself really well.
02:16And a lot of, I've been in that situation with other people and you can tell they're sort of amping
02:21up to it
02:22and a little bit frazzled and a little bit nervous.
02:25And he was none of that.
02:27He was just, I think you're dead on.
02:31There's undeniably, it was a case of, I want to make this clear what I'm dealing with here.
02:37Because as he also said in the interview, a lot of people look at, oh, it's a hand injury.
02:42What's the big deal?
02:44Well, we know it's a big deal.
02:45We've been saying it's a big deal.
02:46And now that you know it's a tear, it's definitely a big deal.
02:50And he just wanted to make that very, very clear for that purpose.
02:55So to answer your question, Rich, yeah.
02:57I mean, I think there was definitely a motivation behind it.
03:00And you could hear that in the way that he phrased it to lead into the answer.
03:04Why do you think Sam Kennedy completely classified it in a wrong and inaccurate way?
03:12I don't know.
03:13The injury thing is bizarre to me for a lot of teams, for a lot of executives, for a lot
03:18of managers, for a lot of coaches, whatever it is.
03:21I get the HIPAA stuff.
03:23This isn't a HIPAA situation.
03:25I think that they're just freaked out by the word tear.
03:28But as I said, why?
03:31Why?
03:31What you're doing, and I hope, and when Sam comes on next week, I hope what he says is that,
03:37first of all, explain why he said what he said.
03:40And also takes ownership of the fact that this did not do the player well.
03:46This was not a good thing.
03:47This put a target on the player more than it needed to be put.
03:51And that's just a fact.
03:52We all know this, that everyone could go, oh, well, it's a sprain and a tear.
03:57It's the same thing.
03:58That is not what we're talking about.
04:00What we're talking about was Sam saying, definitively, it is not a tear.
04:04And when you do that, you're leaning to the sprain.
04:08And sprain, for most people, is not nearly as serious.
04:12And so if it's not nearly as serious, they're going to say, well, why isn't he back?
04:16Bradford, can we assume that Roman has not spoken to Breslow directly about this?
04:21At least he hadn't before he gave you a interview.
04:23I mean, it sounds like they're not talking about it, right?
04:25I have no idea if they're talking about it.
04:30I would imagine that they haven't had this direct conversation.
04:34Like, I don't, and I don't know this at all, but I don't think that Roman said, went up to
04:41Sam and said, what are you doing?
04:42Or he said to even Breslow, what are you doing?
04:44Why the messaging?
04:46Because the messaging from the Red Sox side of thing has been kind of consistent.
04:51And if Roman did go to them and say, hey, can you please define this as a slight tear of
04:59my finger?
05:00Can we please define this?
05:01Because I'm catching a lot of heat here that I shouldn't be catching.
05:05Then if they said, oh, well, no, we're not going to do that.
05:08We're not going to clarify it.
05:10Then that's bad.
05:11So that's why I think that common sense would lead you to, like, that maybe he just hasn't gone upstairs
05:17and said, hey, can you correct this?
05:19You know, Chad Tracy's already got a lot to deal with.
05:22I don't know if you heard him on our show being asked.
05:25Are you kidding me?
05:25If I don't hear it, my dad tells me about it.
05:27That's right.
05:28His favorite interview.
05:29That's his favorite.
05:30Your dad's a P1.
05:31Dadfo loves it.
05:32Hell yeah.
05:33So did Dadfo give you any info about it?
05:35Because when he talked to us, it seemed like he wanted everyone to know that I got Roman's back.
05:42And, you know, he tried to – he did a good job illustrating truly how painful it is for him
05:48when he swings and has any kind of motion right now and how he's ramping himself up.
05:53Doesn't it seem like Chad's almost trying to make up and do Roman right after what's been going on with
06:00the management?
06:00Yeah.
06:01And Chad can't come out without clearance, you know, especially in the situation he's in, and say, by the way,
06:08it's a tear.
06:09Because once the president of the team says it's not, it's like, oh, by the way, what the president of
06:14the team said, that's not true.
06:16That's not what Chad Tracy's going to do.
06:18All he can do is support the team and sort of paint the picture of how painful this is.
06:22And to come back to the interview, like, if you listen to it, he goes into really good detail about
06:28where it hurts, when he swings, why it hurts, when he swings, how this is different.
06:34And I asked him after he had that answer that you played, hey, if there's a tear, because I don't
06:40– you're going to be shocked I don't have a medical degree.
06:43Dr. Nick Rivera, maybe, like, but it's – I don't – I didn't know.
06:48If you have a tear, can you fix it?
06:50Yeah.
06:50Is there a surgical procedure?
06:52He said, no, all you can do is heal.
06:54And as we know, everyone heals different.
06:56And the worst thing they can do, by the way, is have him go out there and force the issue,
07:03swing when he shouldn't be swinging, re-aggravate it.
07:07And the problem is, is that with this narrative out there, with this 22-year-old guy being sort of
07:14pushed, like, why aren't you back?
07:16Why aren't you back?
07:17Human nature would be like, I got to do this, when honestly, he probably shouldn't be doing it.
07:22So all of it is not good.
07:23Rob, do you see Roman – do you think they see Roman as untouchable?
07:30There's thoughts that maybe, you know, they were talking – downplaying his injury to maybe be – Ken came up
07:37with this idea that maybe – to offer him up in a trade.
07:40Is he a guy that's untouchable, or do you think they would be open to trading Roman Anthony?
07:45I like – any time you say Ken came up with this idea, my ears perk up.
07:52So just in case it's pure trash, I'm throwing at you.
07:54Would you be surprised to hear that Ken came up with this idea?
07:56This is – no, dude, I missed the kerosene Ken tank.
08:00Are you kidding me?
08:02But it's funny, because I did hear you guys talking about the Jordan Alvarez thing, and I will say, Ted,
08:09no, I don't think they have any intention of trading Roman Anthony.
08:12This is a blip on the radar for them.
08:14They know how good – we cannot forget about their narrative with this guy leading up before you had this
08:20hand injury.
08:21Like, this was – and it wasn't only from the Red Sox.
08:23It was from everyone in baseball, and he still has to prove it.
08:26We get it, but in terms of trading him, no, I don't think that's an option.
08:29But when you mention – you're hitting the sweet spot.
08:33You're throwing a straight ball right down the middle with me when it comes to your Alvarez conversation, because you're
08:38– I'll say it again.
08:39Your Alvarez, you do whatever you can to get him, but if you take away Roman Anthony, you're playing for
08:46the tie there.
08:47You want to keep adding and not subtracting that.
08:50So, yeah, no, I think that if he's about as close to untouchable as you're going to get on this
08:55roster.
08:56But then – and I almost don't blame Ken for coming out with that theory because it's so ridiculous that
09:03they are downplaying this.
09:04And the only thing I can think, if it's not what Ken said, is that they are freaking out that
09:10this team is so bad, jobs are on the line,
09:13and they are rushing him back, doing everything they can to put the pressure on him to get back out
09:19there.
09:19And if that means downplaying what the actual injury is so he seems soft and he feels that – he
09:27hears the talk
09:27and feels that he gets pressure to get back out there, then, damn it, that's what they're going to do.
09:32Because that's the only theory I could come up with as to why they did that.
09:36Yeah, so my take on it isn't as sexy as that.
09:40It's literally like –
09:41Because I have sexy takes, right?
09:42I know.
09:43It's like – I mean, I want tarps off right now when you're actually doing it.
09:46My takes have knockers.
09:49Hold on.
09:50Let me write that down.
09:51I'm going to put that on a T-shirt.
09:54But it's one of these things where I don't think they would rush him back.
09:58I don't.
09:59Even as bad as they are offensively, they still understand this guy is the future.
10:03They understand the dynamic of this injury and everything else.
10:07I honestly think that they just messed up and they got caught in this world of we have to be
10:13so protective of injuries
10:15and we have a way of disseminating information when it comes to injuries.
10:19Think about this.
10:20Like, this is not anything new when it comes – Roman Anthony was supposed to be back in a couple
10:26days.
10:26We keep hearing this.
10:28Garrett Crochet was supposed to be back when his IL stint ended.
10:32And it never happens that way.
10:34Sonny Gray was the first time in the last few years that the guy actually came back when his IL
10:38stint was done.
10:39Yeah.
10:39So this is how they do things.
10:41I don't know why they do it.
10:43They just make things more difficult for themselves.
10:46And I think this was just an extreme example of that.
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