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00:00I think Red Sox deserve a little bit of our time.
00:03Sure do.
00:03Meanwhile, text line also says Schlittler 10 plus Ks is plus 860.
00:08I think that number's gone up.
00:09Yeah.
00:09If you want to ride along, am I spoiling any Keefe bets of the week here?
00:13No, no.
00:13I'm going 9 Ks.
00:159 Ks?
00:16We're going 9.
00:16I think you could go 10.
00:189 Ks with what?
00:19Oh, Yankee win.
00:20Yeah.
00:21Yeah, it's one ham.
00:22Well, you got to juice it up a little bit.
00:23One ham wins you seven and a half hams.
00:25Nice.
00:26So I think that's kind of a lock.
00:27I'm going with the patented old friend of the show, Ryan Garvin.
00:32Yes.
00:33K ladder.
00:34Okay.
00:35Schlittler 7, 8, 9, 10 Ks.
00:37They're all plus money.
00:38He might have 20 Ks.
00:39If you want to ride along on that.
00:40No, no, no.
00:41You talking about the 20 Ks got this going.
00:43Okay.
00:43But if you want to ride along on that, just know, depending on where you shop, Schlittler
00:47is plus money starting at 7 Ks.
00:49Juicy.
00:50Do with that.
00:51Seven.
00:51What you will.
00:52Thank you, Joe.
00:53You hear that music, though.
00:54That means Rob Bradford from WEI and baseball isn't boring, although dot, dot, dot.
00:59The Red Sox are joins us here on Jones and Keefe.
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01:11Brad, how are we doing today?
01:13Good.
01:13We are putting the asterisks on the T-shirts as we speak.
01:17I mean, baseball in general is still a very fun sport.
01:20There are some good teams out there.
01:23First of all, McFarlane to you all.
01:26And yes, there's always something to get excited about.
01:30Tonight's a perfect example.
01:31You just talked about it.
01:32Cam Schlittler.
01:33Like, who doesn't like a good Cam Schlittler rivalry game?
01:36Schlittler and Tolley.
01:37Schlittler, Tolley.
01:38This could be the future of the AL East.
01:39Oh, my goodness.
01:40Yeah.
01:41Yeah.
01:41Let's go.
01:42Let's go.
01:42I'm so jacked up for tonight.
01:44No, you sound it.
01:45For baseball.
01:45You definitely sound it.
01:46How many strikeouts, realistically, for Schlittler?
01:50Eight.
01:51Wow, that's not enough.
01:52I need nine.
01:53That's not juicy enough.
01:54That's not.
01:54I mean, I hit two.
01:55I appreciate it, though.
01:55I hit two of my four legs in the K ladder, but that's not enough.
01:58Sorry.
01:58Anyways, what do we make of Roman Anthony being out of the lineup again?
02:02Brad Foe, he was out yesterday.
02:04Cora told Greg this morning.
02:07He's out again today.
02:08What's going on there?
02:09And how concerned should we be?
02:10I'm not concerned.
02:12I think it's the problem is, is that you can't have a good Roman Anthony.
02:17This is what we've learned.
02:18And you've taken him out for this offense.
02:21I know that he hasn't been the Roman Anthony everybody wants, but the whole idea of this
02:26offense, we came back to this at the beginning of the year with the safety net thing.
02:30Well, you're putting Roman Anthony at the top of the order.
02:33You're saying he's the alpha.
02:35You're saying that he's the guy.
02:37He's he's one of the main guys that you have to get through.
02:40All right.
02:41But if you don't have him, then what do you have?
02:43And I know that Duran had a couple of hits last night, but still, this is how this whole
02:47thing was made.
02:48I don't think it's it's a long term thing, but still, it's a reminder that how this
02:54whole thing's constructed, which right now is not constructed very well.
02:57It is not constructed well.
02:59Why does Caleb Durbin play every day?
03:01It feels like it's kind of cruel to him and cruel to the fans to have to see it all
03:06the
03:06time.
03:09Which, which are you more concerned about Caleb Durbin or the fans?
03:12Well, I mean, for the fans, they're the ones who listen.
03:15I'm pro fans, but like he plays every day, plays more than Meyer, plays more than Jaron
03:20Duran.
03:20And he's just, unfortunately for him, doesn't have it at the plate.
03:23Like at what point is, Hey, why don't you go figure it out at Worcester?
03:27You wouldn't be the first young player to have to go figure it out in AAA.
03:30I think that nobody wants to hear this, but in April, like this is the time where it's
03:36the, it's the Pedroia thing from 2007.
03:39And I'm not saying it's anywhere near the same thing, but it's the same sort of idea
03:45where you, you think you got, you know what the guy has.
03:49You are confident that you know what the guy has.
03:51That's why you trade for him.
03:52So you give him some leash, you give him some rope, and then you, you give him April
03:57and now you get into May, that becomes a different conversation.
04:01And it's, it's almost like a month thing.
04:03Like with last year, obviously with Christian Campbell, you had the good month, but then
04:07it took over a month to get him sent down there.
04:10So I think that you do give them a month, especially off of last year.
04:14Nobody wants to hear that, but that's sort of how baseball works.
04:18And, uh, and I think the biggest difference here, you know, if you go back to the Pedroia
04:22thing is that they could say, Oh, well, you know, you, you have a young player who's struggling
04:27for a month and he's just going to work itself out.
04:29Well, with Pedroia, you had Ortiz, you had, you know, Manny, you had all these other guys
04:34around them right now, as we've seen, you kind of need a good Caleb Durbin in, in a lot
04:40of key spots here.
04:41That's been one of the many, many problems that they've had, but that's what they're looking
04:46at.
04:46And I think in terms of kind of actually figuring out how to manage the urban thing, Rob Bradford,
04:52W E I and baseball isn't boring.
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05:08Brad fo is an interesting revelation.
05:10I know you were listening to Cora this morning on the Greg Hill show.
05:12If you missed any of it, Odyssey app, uh, you can find baseball isn't boring there as
05:16well.
05:16A U D by the way, long interview.
05:18It was quite a long interview.
05:20Uh, I thought it was interesting.
05:22I know he said this in the past, but I, if I were advising him, like, uh, the Patriots,
05:27uh, crisis counselors advising, uh, uh, Mike Vrabel about how to handle his situation right
05:33now, I wouldn't be acknowledging that I have a lot of input when it comes to roster building.
05:37He did that today.
05:37He said he's very involved in it.
05:39What's your understanding about how involved he is with putting the roster together specifically
05:44as he highlighted in the off season?
05:46Well, first of all, Adam, like, what are you going to say?
05:49Like if, what, if you're at Cora, like, what are you going to say?
05:51If I'm, if I'm, if it's me versus Breslow, I'm the manager.
05:54And that's, you know, I'd say it nicer than this, but that's not my job.
05:58That's Craig.
05:58And that's for baseball ops.
05:59And I just manage the team.
06:00As soon as he does that, what everybody in Cora is a smart guy in this respect is that
06:04as soon as he does that, everybody's going to immediately say, well, look at, he's turning
06:08the attention to Craig Breslow.
06:11He's blaming the start for Dick.
06:12I already say that with most of his other things that he says about how difficult it
06:15is to manage the outfield and all these, I think he does that.
06:18I'm talking about this question and this answer.
06:21Like, so if you're talking about this question, this answer, that's exactly what people will
06:25do.
06:26And, and so when it comes to how much input he has, I think, I think he has some input.
06:32I think, I think that you go back to, uh, last year at the trade deadline, the fact that
06:38we heard a lot about this, about going up to the, the, the room during the trade deadline.
06:43And that was the first time that they allowed this to happen, everything.
06:46So I, I think that when it comes to building this roster, the, the obvious answer is, I think
06:52a lot of people are blamed.
06:54Absolutely.
06:54I think that Cora probably liked a lot of these moves that they had that haven't worked
06:59out.
06:59That's probably a fact, but I think that when it comes to the question and answer that
07:04you're talking about, it's, you can't just say, no, no, I'm here to manage the team.
07:09And he takes care of the roster because we all know right now that the number one problem
07:15with this team in terms of start is the mismatched roster that they're dealing with.
07:20But so he came on and I get what you're saying.
07:21Like if he says that it might blow up into something, that's true.
07:24But so he comes on and, and what doesn't tell the truth.
07:27He says, he says that I have a lot of input and he doesn't really mean that like, which,
07:31which way is it?
07:32Well, I just said, I think he does have input in it.
07:35And I think that's what he said, but he didn't say some, he was like, no, I have a lot
07:38of
07:38input.
07:38And I, you know, especially I don't, I don't, maybe I'm misremembering, but I don't know
07:54that basically Brez and I talk all the time.
07:56Brez and I talk about these moves.
07:58And, and once again, like this is, if he says anything other than that, that everybody,
08:03and we all know, I'll come back to it, Adam, is that this, this roster is the biggest problem.
08:10How this roster is constructed is the biggest problem.
08:13We knew this coming into this year.
08:14Yes, I was more optimistic that some of this would work out than it absolutely has no question
08:20about it, but when it comes to the mismatched roster that we did have worries about the
08:27too many outfielders, um, all of it, like then that was the biggest problem and remains
08:33the biggest problem.
08:34And I think that Alex Cora probably understands that just ask him when, when he's trying to
08:38put together a lineup, I mean, it's, this is, this is science.
08:42This is math.
08:42Everybody knows what's in front of them.
08:44But if he comes out and said, oh, you know what, this is just a, this is absolutely just
08:48a mess that I had nothing to do with this mess and I'm doing the best with what I have.
08:52I don't think anyone's going to say, no, that's a good idea because you're throwing your GM
08:56under the bus.
08:57He also feels like at least publicly that he has his job forever.
09:02Like he was asked about, you know, do you feel like you're going to be on the hot seat?
09:05Like the way this start is gone.
09:06And he's like, absolutely not.
09:08And you're like, are you worried?
09:08He's like, no, I'm only worried about like packing my family to go to Puerto Rico or whatever.
09:12Is that just sort of like an outward kind of thing?
09:14Or does he really, in your mind, believe that he is not in jeopardy of losing his job?
09:20No, I think he's realistic about how managing works and how that you absolutely can lose
09:25your job and that there's probably a shelf life to all this.
09:30Absolutely.
09:31I don't, I don't think for a second that he doesn't like grasp the situation and that
09:35if you don't go, if you don't win games and you finish in last place and you under achieve
09:41and all of that, that you aren't going to pay the price for it.
09:43Yeah.
09:44Cause I was surprised by the answer, honestly, because I would go back to this rich, rich.
09:49I would go back to this, go back to the car, his contract year, which was two years ago.
09:55And you have a lot of, you know, I can do other things and it's, it's not the end of
09:59the world and that sort of stuff.
10:02It's the same sort of thing here.
10:04I mean, right.
10:04I mean, it's, it's, I'm just going to deal with it.
10:07I'm not going to live and die.
10:09I like, Oh, I'm not going to say absolutely.
10:11Even I can't, I can't be fired.
10:13Breslow's a guy though, that like, everybody is like, Oh, he has no personality.
10:16He's a robot.
10:17And he had a line with Greg one time about like, they're like, Hey, can you like meet
10:22up with us somewhere?
10:22And he's like, well, depending on how the next couple of weeks go, he's like, I might
10:25have a lot of time on my hands.
10:26Even he made a joke about like, we need to turn things around or I might get fired.
10:30We've had coaches and other sports be like, Hey, we get hired to get fired.
10:33Like, that's how it goes.
10:34Or like, they're very honest with, yeah, if we don't turn around, they're going to look
10:37at everything or like, my goal is to turn around.
10:40He like laughed at the question and was like, I'm not worried about that at all.
10:43I'm worried about like a vacation.
10:44Like, well, again, I come back to sort of like the, if, if he says something else, like
10:51I Breslow saying that, does he Breslow thinks he's going to get fired?
10:54No, I don't think Breslow thinks he's going to get fired.
10:57I don't think so for a second.
10:59Like, I think that it, but he also understands that, you know, this has happened to other
11:03GMs.
11:03This has happened to other president of the baseball operations and everything else.
11:06But if Cora comes out and says, well, yeah, no, of course I'm worried.
11:11Of course.
11:11No, no, you're just saying worried.
11:13Hold on a second.
11:13As someone who has to manage like that situation, as someone who has to manage that team, like
11:19he also understands like, that's also putting, he talked in that interview, he talked about
11:24a lot about pressure, guys putting pressure on themselves.
11:27All of a sudden, these guys are like, oh man, we got to save the manager's job.
11:31Like he understands, he's trying to play this off.
11:34It's, it's the best coaches and the best managers and the best, whatever head coaches
11:38are always the guys are, and I'm not saying that this is absolutely what he's doing, but
11:43I think there's a semblance of it.
11:44It's always the guy when everything's at their worst, like, okay, you know, it's no big deal,
11:49whatever.
11:49I'm going to, I'm going to play.
11:50I'm going to play it off a little bit.
11:52And then when things, things aren't so seemingly bad, then you dig on and said, Hey, this is
11:57really, really bad.
11:58And we got to get our act together.
12:00So, I mean, I, I understand what you're saying, but I, I'm not surprised that he's played this
12:05off because I'll come back to it a couple of years ago.
12:08It was the same sort of tone when it came to potentially ending his tenure with a contract.
12:14Hotter seat, Cora or Breslow?
12:18I would think that it would be Breslow, but it's probably Cora.
12:21Wait a minute.
12:23Wait, explain that.
12:25No, no.
12:25I think, I think Breslow probably deserves to have a hotter seat.
12:28That's what I'm saying.
12:29Got it.
12:29Got it.
12:29Got it.
12:29Got it.
12:30I see.
12:30Yeah.
12:31But I think, but I do think that, so you think Breslow deserves to have a hotter seat,
12:35but it's actually Cora.
12:37Yeah.
12:37Because I think the ownership and I don't know this, I don't have any information to back this
12:42up, but I think ownership probably is still a little bit sensitive.
12:46sensitive about their all the GM moving on from, from GMs so quickly.
12:52Right.
12:52Okay.
12:52I agree with that part.
12:53You think they're sensitive to that, but you personally are likely to keep him because
12:57of that.
12:57Interesting.
12:58Okay.
12:58Yeah.
12:59Interesting.
12:59So if they're not firing Cora and they're not firing Breslow right this second, and I
13:06know you've told us before, like it's too early for trades to happen.
13:09I think Shea Hillenbrand was late May.
13:11Devers was early June last year.
13:13Just a couple of prominent ones.
13:14So like, we got at least another month for that.
13:17What do they do in the meantime?
13:19Like the, like the name.
13:20And I guess what I'm really asking the name that's come under fire recently is Pete Fatsy
13:24to a lesser degree.
13:25Andrew Bailey, like something like that in the cards.
13:27Yeah.
13:28So it might be in the cars.
13:29I think that the hitting coach thing is stupid.
13:32I think it's, it's an, it's an easy, it's an easy, but yeah, right.
13:37It's an easy guy to blame.
13:38It's, it's, and I, I, I get it.
13:40Like this happens all the time, right?
13:42This hap, this is how it works.
13:44And, but I think it's dumb because it's like, it's like you guys could disagree with me,
13:50but with any coach for hitting coach, pitching coach, whatever you've had success.
13:54And all of a sudden I don't have success.
13:55Well, is it because the players, or is it because of what you're teaching?
13:59I don't know.
13:59Now you say, well, what do they do?
14:02I think that what they have to do is that they have to start looking at this outside the box.
14:08Like we could talk about Hillebrand being late June and Devers, I'm late May and, and Devers being in June
14:15and maybe the earliest that anybody's done anything, the Louisa rise thing a couple of years ago.
14:20Well, I'm sorry.
14:21If you said that this is a world series team and you don't have answers right in front of you,
14:28then you have to do something dramatic.
14:30And I'm not talking about firing the hitting coach or whatever.
14:32I'm talking about getting better players.
14:34I'm talking about actually making the roster manageable where you say, Hey, you know what?
14:39Maybe, maybe it is a good thing.
14:42If you find guys who can play every day, instead of having to juggle the lineup and all that.
14:47So I think that, that they have to do something dramatic.
14:51If things don't turn, they do have to do something to dramatic because you had said in the off season,
14:57our goal is to win the world series.
14:59And as currently constituted, that is so far from being a reality.
15:04Okay.
15:04He is Rob Bradford.
15:06Check him out.
15:06W E E I.com.
15:08Baseball isn't boring.
15:10I don't know if the Red Sox fit under that umbrella right now, unfortunately for them.
15:13But Brad foe, thank you again.
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15:17We'll talk to you next week.
15:18Thank you, Rob.
15:18All right.
15:18Happy draft day.
15:19Actually, wait, wait, wait, wait.
15:20Rob's going to come in tomorrow.
15:21Rob is in tomorrow in studio for the 11 o'clock hour.
15:23So actually.
15:24Yeah.
15:24We'll recap some socks.
15:26Yanks.
15:26You will hear from Rob tomorrow.
15:27Thanks, Brad foe.
15:28All right.
15:28See you guys.
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15:33I, so he thinks it should be Breslau, but Cora's actually on the hotter seat.
15:36I get what he's saying.
15:37I do too.
15:38It's confusing.
15:38It's like, who's doing worse at their job?
15:41He would suggest Breslau.
15:42His opinion is Breslau.
15:44But he actually thinks Cora's on the hotter seat out of the two, which really he's told
15:49us before.
15:49Yep.
15:50He doesn't think the Red Sox want to move on from Breslau because they have a reputation
15:53around baseball after Heimbloom, who deserved it after Dave Dombrowski, who did not.
15:58And nobody has after Charrington.
16:00They have this reputation that they roll through GM since Theo.
16:03How many managers in baseball would have four different GMs?
16:08I can't imagine many, if any.
16:09Yeah.
16:10Well, it's like, you just stay there and all these other guys just like come and go.
16:13That's a tough needle to thread.
16:16So look, I think Cora and I get Bradfoe's point.
16:20I think Cora kind of undercut himself a couple of different times today.
16:23It's like, everybody blames the roster.
16:24It's Breslau's fault.
16:25It's Breslau's fault.
16:26Cora's like, no, no, no.
16:27I talked about all those moves in the off season and I had input.
16:30And Bradfoe says, well, what's he supposed to say?
16:33What are you saying?
16:34So he comes on and he doesn't tell the truth.
16:35Like what?
16:36Like, so I don't know what, like, how am I?
16:37How am I supposed to read that?
16:38This is what he said.
16:39He said he had input in all that stuff in the off season.
16:42So how much, I guess, we can debate.
16:43Bradfoe's not wrong about that.
16:45But, okay, he had input on all that stuff.
16:48It's going to be hard for him to turn around and point his finger at Breslau
16:51and blame him for the roster when Cora was on board, as Bradfoe said,
16:54with probably a lot of these names.
16:56Maybe not everything, but a lot of them.
16:58He wears some of that and his team stinks and they started slow again.
17:01And, by the way, we haven't mentioned this today,
17:03they lost track of outs again last night.
17:06Yeah, that's right.
17:07William O'Brien is, like, firing it in from right field.
17:09He completely lost track of outs.
17:11Yeah, that's good.
17:11Guys are showing up late.
17:13Like, the team's not dialed in.
17:14They've never been dialed in.
17:15They're, like, the worst challenge team in baseball.
17:17That, too.
17:18Yeah.
17:18And now Cora also helped with the roster?
17:21Like, I don't get how he doesn't have the hotter seat.
17:23And Bradfoe did acknowledge that there.
17:26617-779-7937.
17:28More your phone calls coming up.
17:29And more thoughts on the draft, Keith, which is tonight.
17:32Tonight!
17:33Vrabel will be there tonight.
17:34Okay, good.
17:34He'll be there tomorrow.
17:35Great.
17:36Not day three.
17:37Oh.
17:37We have five players we do not want the Patriots to draft at 31.
17:41That's next.
17:42We have five players.
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