00:00You can't. Well, we got the expected ass-kicking. You can't do that, buddy. You can't. You can't say that.
00:06Uh, that was. What was that? Well, you're back in D-Badesta land when you're saying things like that.
00:12I don't know, man. That is a quote that will live in infamy. Oh, my God.
00:17Like, hearing that quote enough, it's like, yeah, they'll want you fired after you say something like that.
00:21And then you go and get your ass handed to you. I mean, I lost count. What's a. Oh, that's
00:24going to be.
00:24What's 2-2. That's going to follow Kenny Atkinson. A 37-point loss.
00:27If Kenny Atkinson, and who knows, maybe we should tell people to keep it locked in to Sports Radio 923,
00:33the fan throughout the day where there could be moves made. Who knows?
00:38This is what I'm saying, though. That's the way it's taken.
00:40That quote is going to follow him the rest of his career.
00:42And that's the way it's taken because that's when I, when we have these conversations and some of you,
00:47like you and a couple other people, you guys roll your eyes. Not you as much, but you used to.
00:52But there's a lot of like the very, they, they know math and they want you to know math and
00:58they know football and they know math and they like to put it together.
01:02And I'm just thinking, man, I understand that you have to look into that stuff.
01:06There's not a war in intelligence the way that you guys make it out to be.
01:10But when these things are said and the scoreboard reflects differently, like you have to read in real world.
01:16Because to, I think, a lot of folks, when you bring up analytics, that's just an excuse to keep you
01:22employed for not doing your job.
01:24It's basically what it is.
01:25Because you, your job is to win.
01:27In pro sports, it's to win.
01:28And when we see these things, like you used to get so mad, I would get mad, is when they
01:33would go and they'd lose these stupid games.
01:34And this is Brownsian.
01:36The Browns would go out and lose stupid games.
01:38And then you'd look back and you'd hear, well, Kenny, the process was right.
01:42This, that, and the other.
01:42It's like, oh, okay.
01:43Well, at some point, your process is going to have to have an outcome on the scoreboard here.
01:47Or your fans are going to stop going.
01:48And when you hear about analytically, you're up 2-1 in a series.
01:52It's just insulting to the regular fan.
01:54There's no other way to say it.
01:55It almost comes off as a satire.
01:56I know he's not trying to insult people, but it's insulting to the fans.
01:59I guarantee you their internal analytics would probably demonstrate that they would be willing, 100 out of 100 times, to
02:11give Jalen Brunson seven straight possessions matched up against James Harden with that shot profile.
02:18Him having to go off the glass, a couple of contests where he still somehow manages to float it through
02:26there.
02:26And I bet you the Cavs would say they would live with that 100 out of 100 times.
02:31And then a basketball person would need to come in and go, no, no, call timeout.
02:38Don't give up the switch that easily.
02:40Maybe ice him to the baseline to where he's not going into the middle of the paint to his coveted
02:46areas.
02:47No, Kenny, you watch hoops.
02:50You have tape of Jalen Brunson.
02:51You know he's capable of making tough shots.
02:53But it's the NBA where the superstars can rise above and do that, especially when they're on a historic heater.
03:01No.
03:03And here we are.
03:04The analytics might say one thing.
03:06The eyes and the tape tell you a very different tale.
03:09It's a very ugly thing to say.
03:11And I winced when he said it because it's not going to go over well.
03:15I mean, that's a fart in church.
03:17And here we are today.
03:18And, honestly, I worry about his job because I think the owner thinks a lot like a fan would.
03:24And I think an owner's sitting there going, you're saying this to the fans?
03:26What are you saying?
03:27I'm expecting him to be out of a job by noon today.
03:30That is my expectation.
03:32Really?
03:32Yes.
03:33I really didn't think they were going to fire him.
03:35Yeah.
03:35I think he's gone.
03:37I think, especially in that league.
03:40I really didn't think they were going to fire him.
03:42Man, Kenny, they fired David Blatt.
03:45Were they the, what seed were they?
03:47They were the one seed.
03:48They were the one.
03:48They did it in January.
03:49They fired with the Cavs in first place.
03:53They fired David Blatt and went to the coach, who at the time was one of the highest paid,
03:58if not the highest paid assistants, but somebody with no experience.
04:03So, why would you be that surprised if they fired Kenny Atkinson today?
04:07I just didn't think they would.
04:10I just think he said the worst thing you possibly could at the worst possible time.
04:16I mean, unless he said he didn't care about winning and losing.
04:18I mean, I guess that's worse, but I don't need to sit there and power rank the three things
04:21he could have said that were worse to Cavs fans.
04:23I mean, that's about as bad as it gets.
04:25When you're saying analytically and you're down 0-3, it's backs against the wall.
04:28We got to dig out of this.
04:29It's not, well, analytically, we'd be up 2-1 in the series.
04:32You know what?
04:33Let me try to wrap my head around that and go, well, you're up by 22 at one point.
04:36You had a terrible, terrible breakdown.
04:38And then you just missed wide open shots in game two.
04:42I thought you played defense as well as you have.
04:45You just weren't able to hit open shots in game two.
04:48Like, you could sit here and try to do that.
04:49But my God, let radio talk dummies try to say that.
04:52Not you.
04:53Not you.
04:54He has missed almost every opportunity.
04:56You want to talk about missing shots.
04:57He's missed, like, every opportunity to communicate with the fan base
05:01throughout this postseason.
05:02Like, everything he says, it just makes the fan base feel worse
05:06about the organization and about the team.
05:08And I got to tell you, I didn't think he'd get fired.
05:11I mean, when it comes to NBA coaches, you can put them in, put them out.
05:16It doesn't matter to me.
05:17But I didn't think he'd get fired.
05:18But the way you're talking, you think he could be done by noon today?
05:20Yeah.
05:21Yeah, I do.
05:21All right.
05:222-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-92.
05:24You better keep listening to the fan because something could break
05:26at any moment, obviously.
05:28Josh and Akron, you're first up on the fan.
05:30Hello, Josh.
05:31Hey, what's up, guys?
05:32Hi, Josh.
05:33All right.
05:34So, I just want to talk about what it's going to take for the guys
05:40to take the next step.
05:42And I know we've went over this really for the past three years,
05:45redundantly, like, over and over and over.
05:47But it's going to take Evan Mobley making that next step.
05:50And I'm encouraged by what he did in this postseason.
05:54But it's going to take him actually – it's going to take the sheriff
05:57finding his badge, man.
05:59Like, he's – this guy's going to have to, you know, become more vocal.
06:02He's going to have to demand the ball.
06:05He's going to have to, like, say it with his chest.
06:07Like, not just put his hand up like, hey, I got a question in kindergarten.
06:11You know what I mean?
06:12Like, we need him to be – to take that next step because you're not going
06:16to win a championship with a 6'1 guard being your best player.
06:19He's definitely – I agree with you.
06:21I agree with you, Josh.
06:23I think he's the most controversial player on this team.
06:26And he does nothing to get controversy – to put controversy on himself.
06:30But, I mean, in terms of controversy, it's like James Harden.
06:32All right.
06:32James Harden's 36, 37 years old.
06:34All right.
06:34Donovan.
06:35Donovan, his future.
06:36Like, if you were to get rid of Donovan, then you're basically starting
06:38all over again.
06:40Evan's future, it's like he's still 24.
06:42He's five years in, but he's still 24, so he's technically still going
06:45into his prime.
06:47And I think there's a lot of people who, they hear that, and they go,
06:49oh, God, for the love of God, Kenny, just get rid of the guy.
06:51He's never going to be there.
06:51And it's like, well, no, we're either going to trade him for ultimate pieces
06:56or he's got to step up and be that ultimate piece.
06:59And I think a lot of people are like, well, wish in one hand
07:02and you know what in the other because they don't know whether or not
07:04he's going to be that guy.
07:05I can't say for certain he's not.
07:07I think more folks are leaning towards he's not, but still,
07:10even if he's not a 1% or a Kevin Garnett type player, just,
07:13he's still a fabulous player.
07:14It's just how fabulous can he be for you for a team that's supposed
07:16to get to end?
07:17Yeah, go ahead.
07:18Here's my thing, though, is like, I don't, I think people focus too heavy
07:22on the outside shot.
07:23Like, I don't care if he's, you know, becomes a guy that's shooting
07:27five to seven threes a game.
07:28That's not what encourages me by what he did or what excites me about what
07:33he was doing in this postseason run.
07:34It was his aggressiveness in the paint.
07:37It was the way he was taking the ball to the hole.
07:39The way that he was taking defenders that were, you know, smaller than him,
07:43he'd have the mismatch and he would take it straight to the rack.
07:46And I love that.
07:47That's what we need is that aggression.
07:48It's been too many times that Evan Mobley's got the ball with a 6'5 guard on him
07:52and he won't back him down.
07:54Like, he kicks the ball back out.
07:55It might be, it might just be his gather, Josh.
07:58I think you're 100% right on this.
08:00And thank you very much for the call.
08:02Because, Lima, I got to kind of pass it off to you.
08:04Just because his gather seems to take so long, it makes me think he's hesitant
08:10to take the shot.
08:12The whole shot can be measured with a sundial with how long it takes him to catch
08:16and shoot.
08:17And because it takes him so long, it makes me think he's not sure if he wants
08:20to take the shot.
08:21Yeah, there's clearly.
08:23That can't be true, but that's how I feel.
08:25Like, here's the thing about this series overall for Evan.
08:29Not just this series, this playoff run.
08:31Yeah.
08:32He played well enough to where he is absolutely going to be the subject of massive,
08:39maybe a Giannis trade.
08:41Who knows?
08:42But he played well enough over the course of the playoffs to where people look
08:47and go, he's 24, get him in our house, and we are going to develop his skills.
08:52I mean, if Karl-Anthony Towns is 30, look at what they have said about Karl-Anthony
08:56Towns, who was a former number one overall pick.
08:57That's true.
08:58Look at how they've talked about Karl-Anthony Towns forever.
09:00And now, because they're going to the NBA Finals, what do they say about Karl-Anthony
09:05Towns?
09:05Now they don't question his toughness.
09:07Now they don't question his ability to do this or that on a basketball.
09:12But it's been how many years for Karl-Anthony Towns?
09:16But at the same time for Evan Mobley, I think he's got enough flaws in his game where fans,
09:21an element of the fan base would be okay with moving on from him if you could get Giannis.
09:28Like I do think that was always got to be part of the formula for a potential Giannis move
09:34was he had to be good enough.
09:37And I do think like Milwaukee, all the trade packages, like they could consider bringing
09:43in Evan Mobley in exchange.
09:44Feel free to know why in the tutorial on how we can do that.��ied
09:44We'll see you next time.
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