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In an exclusive interview with India Today, Abhijeet Dipke, the founder of the Cockroach Janta Party, discusses the growth of his political movement following remarks made by the Chief Justice of India on unemployed youth.
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00:00A new party has been launched in India. It's called the Cockroach Chanta Party.
00:06You heard that right.
00:08Eligibility criteria is unemployed, lazy and chronically online.
00:15Ability to rant professionally.
00:19The party's slogan is secular, socialist, democratic and lazy.
00:25And it calls itself the voice of the youth.
00:28The website is on your screen right now, cockroachjanthaparty.org, launched the same day.
00:34The growth was immediate and striking.
00:38Within three days of launch, the party has attracted about 80,000 signups.
00:43On Instagram alone, the party has crossed 5,51,000 followers within 48 hours.
00:49And if you thought that this lazy and unemployed movement was just online, it has gone offline.
00:56A group of youth volunteers carried out cleanliness drives along the Yamuna River,
01:02dressed like cockroaches, carrying placards as a peaceful response to the CGI's remark.
01:08What was the CGI's remark? Let's play that up for you as well.
01:13Now, the volunteers said that they chose their own insult and they could not take in the statement that was
01:25made by CGI's Suriqanth.
01:27They said that they were pained by his comments.
01:31Now, what were his comments?
01:33Remember, on the 15th of May, Chief Justice of India, Suriqanth, likened unemployed youth to cockroaches during a Supreme Court
01:40hearing.
01:40The remarks went viral.
01:43And the very next day, a digital content creator, Abhijit, founded the Cockroach Janata Party.
01:53Now, who is Abhijit?
01:56Abhijit is a 30-year-old Indian student currently studying public relations in Boston University.
02:02He's not in India.
02:05He has a degree, does not have a job, and he calls himself the OG Cockroach.
02:12So, he thought, let's speak with him.
02:14Let me welcome now Abhijit on the program.
02:17Hi, Abhijit.
02:18How's it going?
02:19I want to understand from you, how did this entire, you know, Cockroach Party idea even come to your mind?
02:29Why did you decide to launch a party?
02:31Not a campaign, not a slogan, but a party.
02:35I think it was more triggering coming in from the Chief Justice of India, who is the custodian of constitution
02:41which grants us the freedom of expression.
02:44Someone who is there to safeguard our freedom of expression is comparing us with cockroaches and parasites for just putting
02:52up our opinion.
02:53That was more hurting part, I would say.
02:57Had this comment made by anybody else from the ruling party, which they normally do, it wouldn't have caused such
03:05stir.
03:05But it came from someone who is supposed to protect our freedom of expression.
03:11All right.
03:11So, would it be fair to say that you are the OG Cockroach?
03:15You are the one, as you called yourself, that you are the one that the Chief Justice was really talking
03:21about.
03:22Why did it become so personal?
03:23And I am trying to understand, ever since then, you have got support of other, some opposition MPs as well,
03:30some TMC MPs who have jumped in.
03:32How did you take that support?
03:37Everybody who will speak about the youth, about the Gen Z and their concerns are welcome in this party.
03:44Because for too long, I believe the Indian politics has ignored the Indian youth.
03:49If you look at the political discourse of India, what it has been for the last 10-12 years, it
03:55has been around Hindu, Muslim and stuff like that.
03:58How is it actually serving the youth?
04:00What is it in for them?
04:01There is absolutely nothing.
04:04So, why would the Indian youth look up to these people?
04:08But currently, the poster boy for Indian youth is Vijay, right?
04:12He is the one who has garnered most Gen Z and Millennium votes here.
04:16Can Vijay join the Cockroach Party?
04:21I think Vijay has already achieved his own success.
04:27But what about Arvind Kejriwal?
04:29Can he join the Cockroach Party?
04:32He can extend his support if he wants to.
04:34But I don't think that anybody among the Gen Zs would like any political party to be involved in this.
04:41I want to be really clear about it.
04:44You are clear about that, but there is a reason I brought up Arvind Kejriwal, because I know that you
04:48were associated with the Ahmadine Party in the past.
04:51Back in the day, you have managed Ahmadine Party's social media messaging.
04:57You handled their positioning online as well.
05:01What happened?
05:02You are not working with them anymore?
05:03They could not live up to your expectations?
05:06Would that be fair to say?
05:10No, it's not that, Sonal.
05:11Actually, I worked there from 2020 to 2023, I think.
05:16And it was for a brief period of time, I was actually very inspired by the health and education model
05:22that they worked on.
05:23I mean, it was also very refreshing to know that in Indian politics, then health and education was nowhere.
05:30And he delivered on that.
05:31So I was inspired by that.
05:32And I just wanted to contribute in that.
05:35And after that, I thought maybe I need to move forward with my life.
05:39So I took a year off, I started preparing for my applications.
05:44And then in 2024, I decided, okay, it's time to move ahead in life, focus on personal life, financial stability,
05:50and stuff like that.
05:52So I applied to some universities, I got into Boston University, and I have been here since then.
05:58Okay.
05:59You know, in the past one year, a lot of Gen Z movements have happened in and around India's neighborhood.
06:04We've had Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal.
06:06And a lot of memes were then floated around, saying, India ka Gen Z kahan hai.
06:11Are you trying to say, India ka Gen Z yahan hai?
06:16I think, India ka Gen Z hamisha yahi tha.
06:20Because the kind of support you see that we have got in just three days, Sonal.
06:24Today we have like three lakh registered members.
06:28The figure has gone to three lakh in just three, three, four days.
06:32On Instagram, we got 3.3 million people.
06:35That is, 30 lakh people are following us.
06:37Do you really think that this is possible through any orchestrated campaign?
06:42No, it is not.
06:45No, it is possible.
06:46But, you know, my question to you is this.
06:50Do you have a plan on what is going to happen next?
06:52Or is this just a flash in the pan moment?
06:57Because it has just been three, four days.
06:59And as I told you, nothing of this was planned.
07:02If I had to plan it, I wouldn't be doing it from the US.
07:05I would have been in India.
07:07Right?
07:07All of this happened so suddenly.
07:10But I want to underline this.
07:12This has happened because of the frustration that these young people have for many years.
07:17It has happened because of that.
07:20Like 36 crore, India has the largest young population.
07:26And majority of that young population is out of workforce.
07:30What do you expect them from them then?
07:32It will be frustrated.
07:33They are really frustrated.
07:36Okay, you know, there is a five-point agenda that I found on your website.
07:40And it's a quick one.
07:41I'm sure AI was used to make all of that.
07:42It says that the key demand includes no chief justice shall be granted a Rajya Sabha seat or a post
07:49retirement reward.
07:49It says that chief election commissioner or commissioner who deletes legitimate votes shall be arrested under UAPA.
07:56It also goes on to say that women shall receive 50%, not 33% reservation, along with 50% cabinet
08:03positions.
08:04Are you really saying this is prepping up?
08:07Is this a meme?
08:10Or are you prepping up for a party?
08:12Give me a straight answer.
08:16I think this is about what should be the ideal situation and what we should strive for.
08:20It's about that.
08:23And we are striving for India that would have all the institutions independent, be it the judiciary, be it the
08:29election commission or be it the media.
08:33The greatest threat to Indian democracy today is that all of those institutions seems to be aligned with the ruling
08:40party.
08:40And that is a very dangerous sign.
08:45So that is what we are striving for.
08:48We are striving for the neutrality and independence of all these institutions.
08:53But despite all of that, Abhijit, I have to bring to your attention that they are still winning elections.
08:59If I am to call it out, you are not naming the BJP, but this is an attack sort of
09:05or a counter narrative to this, right?
09:07But they are still winning elections.
09:09And you are saying that this is democracy.
09:12Are you saying that you will be fighting elections against them?
09:18Yeah, they are winning elections, but how?
09:22We should also discuss that then.
09:26Okay, the Chief Justice of India, ever since you came out with this, has clarified his comments.
09:32He did come out to say that it was for those who have fake degrees, etc.
09:37But you haven't withdrawn or taken even cognizance of those comments, have you?
09:44So, I find the clarification even more despicable because he said that it was aimed at the people who don't
09:51have a real degree or who have bogus degree and stuff like that.
09:58So now, we all know that majority of the India today lives in rural parts.
10:03The rural youth, even the Gen Z of the rural, works as a daily wage laborer because he doesn't have
10:10a formal degree.
10:11He doesn't have the privilege to get a formal education.
10:17So, those who don't have the privilege to earn a formal degree, don't have the right to speak up in
10:23a democracy, what is the Chief Justice of India is trying to say here?
10:26Doesn't the constitution which he sworn to protect says that every individual, irrespective of his educational qualification or his social
10:34status, has the right to speak up, has the right to freedom of expression?
10:38How can you say that nobody who, sorry, who doesn't have a formal degree is a cockroach?
10:48Like, this is so, so disheartening to hear from the Chief Justice of India.
10:54Okay, but, you know, Abhiji, the narrative on Gen Z in India is what?
10:59That Gen Z outrages, but only online.
11:01If they come out on the streets, it's only to make reels.
11:04This doesn't really translate into something, which is why I was saying that many would say this is just a,
11:10you know, like a splash in the pan sort of a moment.
11:15No, I don't. Actually, I don't.
11:17Because for the past few months, I have been observing that there is this growing trend that earlier people were
11:23frustrated, but they wouldn't like to express their dissatisfaction.
11:26But if you ever go on Instagram, now these people are speaking up.
11:31And this is just the first stage.
11:33Now they are trying to speak up.
11:35Earlier, they were not even speaking up.
11:37Now they have got to a point where they are being vocal about their frustration.
11:42And tomorrow they might even get on the streets.
11:44But let me remind you again, if they get on the streets, don't think it will be like Nepal or
11:49Bangladesh.
11:52Indian Gen Z won't do that.
11:54Like these people are really smart.
11:55I have been speaking to hundreds of them.
11:57And they are explaining me how they will, how they need to, you know, protest in a very democratic and
12:02peaceful manner.
12:02They understand how important it is to raise their voice, but within the constitutional rights.
12:10So I wouldn't compare the Indian Gen Z with the Gen Z of other nations and would try to, you
12:15know, defame them.
12:16Because these people are more smarter than the entire cabinet ministry that is sitting there today.
12:21The kind of politicians we have, the kind of ministers we have, what educational qualifications do they have?
12:30Okay, but, okay, Abhijit, you seem to be representing the voice of youth.
12:33So let me ask your question.
12:34Is there anybody, any Neta, Abhineta, any cricketer, any, any politician, anybody who represents the Indian youth today in the
12:44country?
12:48I'm not leading them.
12:49Basically, they have created this movement on their own, to be honest.
12:53I was not expecting.
12:54Oh, leaderless movements are even worse.
12:56We know how that works, right?
13:00This movement will give faces and this will give more educated faces than we have today.
13:05And that would be a really good sign for Indian politics, don't you think?
13:10All right.
13:10So you're saying even you are not a leader at the moment.
13:15Then who is leading this movement?
13:18What happens?
13:21I would like to ask you, when was the last time you ever heard from any Indian politician?
13:27Who is trying to engage with the Gen Z?
13:30You are a journalist.
13:31You have been in this field for quite so long.
13:33And I think you follow these politicians more than me.
13:38Please tell me, who is the last person or politician who actually tried to address this Gen Z population?
13:47Well, if you're asking me, like I said in the beginning, at the moment, the current flavor seems to be
13:51Vijay.
13:52He's one person who comes to mind.
13:54And Gen Z came out in big numbers to vote for him.
14:00But that's my opinion.
14:01It doesn't have to be.
14:02We won't include him in the existing political system that exists today.
14:08So even if you don't have the answer, see, that's what I'm talking about.
14:13All right, Abhijit, we'll leave it there for the moment.
14:15But thank you so much for joining us.
14:17Good luck with the Cockroach Party.
14:18You tell us that it's funded by no one.
14:20You tell us that it will invite no other political party.
14:23You also tell us that it is not at the behest or against anyone.
14:27It is simply the voice of the youth.
14:29We wait to see if this becomes an event that has been a trend and a hashtag for some time.
14:34Or is this here to stay till 2029?
14:38We'll be watching for the moment.
14:39Thanks so much for joining us.
14:43All right, that was the Cockroach Janta Party.
14:45What do you think about them?
14:46Tell us in the comments coming out on our live stream.
14:50For the moment, it's a goodbye from us.
14:52But stay tuned to India Today.
14:53Lots more coming up.
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