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See No Evil - Season 14 - Episode 09: The Green Carpet
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00:05911, where is your emergency?
00:07I'd like to see if I could get an officer
00:08to do a welfare check on my mother.
00:10No one we know of has heard from her quite some time.
00:13It just drew a lot of alarm bells for everybody.
00:16The next steps to take is to obtain that surveillance footage.
00:20It is suspicious.
00:22What are they doing with this money?
00:24I was almost in disbelief.
00:26It was hard for me to realize that somebody could do this
00:29to another human being.
00:31It felt like I couldn't breathe.
00:33Let's start from time.
00:35Did you kill her?
01:0371-year-old Cindy Mudd is exchanging presents with her family at Christmas.
01:10Thank you, Haley.
01:13She gave the biggest bear hugs that you could possibly imagine.
01:17She was the perfect grandma in my eyes.
01:20I feel like she was made to be a grandma.
01:23When we did celebrate Christmas, it was a wonderful day.
01:30Nan was a virologist.
01:32She loved what she did, and she was pretty miraculous.
01:36I loved her for it.
01:40My mother was a single mother,
01:42and she worked really, really hard to provide for me.
01:46She did a great job.
01:49Cindy's loyal dog, Dusty, isn't left out.
01:52Dogs were always part of her life, but she was a dog lover.
01:58I can guarantee that dog was at her side at all times.
02:03Just like every other pet we've ever had.
02:08Oh, look what we got here.
02:10Look at that.
02:11Dan started to show signs of dementia and early Alzheimer's.
02:16The last half a dozen times that I saw my mom,
02:20each time I saw her, there was a definite decline in her mental status.
02:26But my mom was funny and strong and kind.
02:36You just never think that something like this is going to happen to your family.
02:45My name is Jessica Bean, and I'd like to see if I could get an officer to do a welfare
02:51check on my mother.
02:52On August 18th, we received a call from an individual who was concerned about Cynthia Mudd,
02:57who lived in our Crosslanes area of Kanawha County.
03:00I've been coming by the house every day for like the last week, and no one's answering.
03:05No one we know of has heard from her in quite some time.
03:08I had started going down there every day and just pounding on the door.
03:13The only contact we've had has been with this house guest, and he said, oh, she went away on vacation.
03:18My mother doesn't have a means to take a vacation.
03:20She doesn't have a car. She doesn't have the money.
03:22We don't know what's going on. No one's answering.
03:25Is the house guest still there?
03:28The house guest isn't answering the door if he is.
03:32If they haven't been in contact, it could indicate that there's a very serious problem
03:36and we need to find out as quickly as possible the condition of the individual.
03:41All right, Jessica, I'll get somebody over there to check on her.
03:47Dispatch sends Corporal A.J. Miller to Cindy's house.
03:56I noticed that the house was in really good shape.
03:59The yard was mowed.
04:05Sheriff's office.
04:07I knocked on the residence for over 15 minutes trying to make contact.
04:12I could hear a dog barking inside the home.
04:16Unless we see somebody that is in need of our assistance, can't open doors,
04:23that we're not invited inside of.
04:26We generally try and look in the windows to make sure that somebody hasn't fallen,
04:30but they all had curtains and blinds on them.
04:33So I was unable to see inside the residence.
04:40I hit the siren to try and get her attention.
04:48Still no contact.
04:50Cindy's daughter, Jessica, arrives at her mother's home to speak with Corporal Miller.
04:55I remember meeting Jessica.
04:57She could tell me the specifics of her mother's living arrangement with a man that she's had living there.
05:04So who was the person that was living with your mom?
05:06His name is Sam May.
05:08She wanted a partner.
05:11She wanted a soulmate.
05:13She wanted someone to be with her, like a companion.
05:19But my mother's relationship with Sam May felt like something that you would see on Jerry Springer.
05:27Sam and my mother were a couple.
05:30But he had gotten another female pregnant, Michelle, and moved her into the house.
05:36And my mom was taking care of Sam and his girlfriend.
05:41Michelle had resided in the home up until about a year ago.
05:44Do you have Sam's cell number?
05:47I tried calling it over and over this week.
05:49It rang once.
05:51Then nothing.
05:56His telephone was out of service.
05:59So you couldn't leave a message.
06:02Any missing person complaint, it's imperative to campus area to find out when somebody had last seen Mrs. Mudd.
06:10The sooner we get that information, the better.
06:17Deputies speak with Cindy's neighbors.
06:20We had run into her neighbor, Lorna.
06:22Excuse me, ma'am. I'm with the sheriff's office.
06:25Do you know your neighbor, Cindy Mudd?
06:27Yes. I've not seen her. Not for a while.
06:30It had been at least three weeks since she had seen her.
06:35Lorna made mention that she had recognized a younger female entered through a window of the residence.
06:43When we hear about somebody going through a window, it does create suspicion.
06:49Lorna says the woman she saw enter the house is Sam's ex-girlfriend, Michelle.
06:54They definitely need to be questioned by law enforcement in regard to why they're doing this.
07:00What's going on?
07:01It's imperative that we make contact with anybody that has had first-hand knowledge of her whereabouts, especially somebody that
07:08resides with her.
07:09Who else has been living there?
07:11Two guys, Sam and Arnold.
07:14Who is Arnold?
07:16Sam and Arnold were very good friends.
07:19Arnold would be just as important to speak to because if anything had happened, he may very well have either
07:25heard or seen something that would be beneficial to our investigation.
07:30Lorna had explained that Arnold worked at a gas station about a mile and a half from her home.
07:38I made contact with the manager of the gas station.
07:43Excuse me, ma'am. I'm with the sheriff's office. I'm looking for one of your employees, Arnold Hiller.
07:48I was advised that he was let go.
07:51You got his cell number?
08:03Arnold's telephone was out of service, so you couldn't leave a message.
08:08It's kind of a roadblock.
08:12Kanawha County Sheriff's Office opens a missing persons investigation to find Cindy Mudd.
08:22Detective Alford leads the team.
08:24Once all efforts are exhausted in locating her, we put her into NCIC as a missing person.
08:32You just got to go to your next piece of key evidence to hopefully locate her.
08:39Investigators access Cindy's bank records to look for clues that might explain her disappearance.
08:45We got Cindy's banking transactions. Come and have a look.
08:51In looking at the transaction history, I noticed that there had been some ATM withdrawals and a lot of activity
08:59on July 20th, 21st, 22nd, and July 26th.
09:04From a Speedway gas station, which is in very close proximity to Cynthia's residence.
09:12That's a total of $832.94.
09:15That's a lot of money.
09:18Those four transactions, they were back to back.
09:21And from looking at her banking history, it's something out of the ordinary.
09:26Let's check it out.
09:28Going down to that gas station, we want to obtain that surveillance footage.
09:38Show me the footage from the camera on the ATM.
09:44We viewed the footage on July 26th, right at the time of the exact transaction.
09:51Our hopes is to see who exactly is using that debit card.
09:57Who's that?
10:05I immediately recognized that person using Cindy's card as Samuel May.
10:17I don't see Cindy. Show me the exterior camera.
10:21We may be looking for Cindy as well, see if she may be waiting for him out in the parking
10:26lot.
10:28But we see nobody on the footage other than him.
10:33Cynthia had some health issues, so it sounded as if he had become like a caretaker for Cynthia.
10:42It wouldn't be unusual for Sam to have Cynthia's card to buy groceries or other necessities for Cynthia.
10:52Cindy's card was used at the same ATM three more times.
10:57Let's watch the footage from the dates of the other transactions.
11:06On July 20th and July 21st, I saw that it was Samuel May again.
11:12And he arrived at the store on foot.
11:15He made the cash withdrawal.
11:18He withdraws $403.50 on both of those days.
11:25It was very suspicious.
11:28And he headed back in the same direction as Cynthia Mudd's residence.
11:37No, Cindy.
11:39Can you play the footage from July 22nd?
11:45What was interesting about July 22nd was not only was Samuel May the one that used the card at the
11:52ATM,
11:52but he was also accompanied by another white male.
11:59He's wearing a ball cap, shorts, and a maroon-colored T-shirt.
12:08It was clear that the two men were together.
12:10They were communicating.
12:11They purchased some snacks together.
12:17The male that's with Sam on the surveillance video, he had eyeglasses.
12:21He's noticeably shorter and stockier.
12:24He's got facial hair.
12:27That man with Sam was Arnold Hiller.
12:31The friend of Samuel's who lived in the home with them.
12:36Show me the outside camera.
12:43They exit the store together, and then they walk back into the direction of Cindy's house.
12:52Seeing that Sam and Arnold had consistently withdrawn money, it is suspicious.
12:58What need did they have for this immediate cash in such large amounts?
13:03What are they doing with this money?
13:06They're just getting out as much money as the ATM will allow them.
13:11The last time Sam and Arnold were seen were just a few days prior.
13:16So in our minds, we have to locate them as quick as possible.
13:21Thank you. We're going to need a copy of the footage here.
13:23Thanks.
13:27Cindy's daughter, Jessica, calls Detective Alford with information she learned from Sam's ex, Michelle.
13:34Detective Alford speaking.
13:36Hi, Jessica. How can I help you?
13:38I learned from Jessica that her and Michelle had been in contact with each other.
13:43She said that the last time she saw my mother, Cindy, was a month ago.
13:49Michelle said she broke into the house, she climbed in through a window, and she said no one's there, so
13:54she thinks that he has fled.
13:56Jessica had given her permission to do that to see if she could maybe locate Cindy.
14:02She told me that she had gone to the house because she hadn't heard anything from my mom, and she
14:12too was concerned for my mother.
14:16It was Michelle who neighbor Lorna saw climb through Cindy's window.
14:21Investigators charge her with no crimes for entering Cindy's home.
14:26It was obviously very important that we find and speak to Michelle.
14:37We met Michelle outside of her place of employment. We interviewed her just in our vehicle outside of the Dollar
14:45Tree.
14:46We asked Michelle about going over to Cynthia's house.
14:51She'd been unable to reach Samuel or Arnold by phone, and so she decided to go over to check on
14:58the mall.
14:58I actually let myself into the house, and I actually went through the window.
15:03I expected to find Sam passed out in bed. I was quite shocked to find the house empty.
15:11In Cindy's room, there's pillows missing off of her bed, which is weird because she likes pillows.
15:19If she didn't see any signs of a disturbance, what happened to Cynthia?
15:25So what's your gut telling you?
15:26My gut's telling me that something bad happened to Cindy.
15:31Michelle reveals that she broke up with Sam a week earlier.
15:36He's been a little agitated. He's been distant, major mood swings.
15:43He'll be okay one minute, and the next minute he's angry at everyone.
15:49Drunk, he's capable of anything.
15:54If Sam wasn't at Salted Drive, do you have any idea where he'd be at?
15:58I don't, honestly.
16:03Michelle explained it because she shares a child with Samuel.
16:07She and Samuel have a tracking app called Life 360.
16:13This was very exciting because that could obviously give us GPS locations.
16:18And that just basically shows when it went off in this last location?
16:22Yeah, it shows the last time that he was out of the house.
16:27That was Tuesday night, and then he went home.
16:30Wednesday morning is when Sam turned his phone off.
16:33So that was the last time I know of him being at that location.
16:36It's still off. It still says off since 944 Wednesday.
16:42Sam turns his tracking app off on August 17th.
16:46About two days before Cindy was reported missing.
16:49It raises a red flag.
16:51Why would he stop sharing his location?
16:53Two days, that's a lot of time.
16:55And with the amount of money they were retrieving from the ATM,
16:58I'm sure they could pay someone or maybe take a bus and get out of state.
17:03So we have to locate them as quick as possible.
17:08Back at the sheriff's office, investigators reanalyze Cindy's banking activity.
17:14At this point in the investigation, the transaction history using Cynthia's card was the only way we had of tracking
17:22anybody.
17:23There's new transactions on Cindy's card.
17:26Two days ago.
17:27We found a transaction on August 17th, the day Sam's Life 360 was turned off.
17:34And that was at the family dollar, in the amount of approximately $71.
17:41We had seen who was using the card in July.
17:44But we wanted some video surveillance that would show us who in particular is using it in August.
17:59Can we see the footage from August 17th?
18:03We learned that the family dollar does have surveillance cameras
18:06and they provided footage of the transaction from August 17th.
18:10Yeah, play from there.
18:14From the camera that's facing the doors, I'm hoping to see who's using Cynthia Mudd's card.
18:21Stop there.
18:31At 6.07 p.m. exiting the store, we see two white males, one in a camouflage hat and a
18:38blue shirt with a gray backpack.
18:40And we see another male in a white sleeveless shirt and khaki shorts.
18:45That's Sam and Arnold's.
18:46It was a confidence booster and let us know we're moving in the right direction.
18:52Rewind.
18:54Hoping to see what they're purchasing and also when they're checking out as well.
19:01The two don't seem like they're in hiding. They don't appear nervous.
19:05They are chatty.
19:08They're just kind of joking back and forth.
19:13They shop around for a little while and they pay with Cindy's card.
19:20It's a big moment for us as investigators because we see them still continuing spending Cindy's money and she's still
19:27a missing person.
19:33Across town, Cindy's family grow increasingly concerned about her whereabouts.
19:40Hi, Detective Alford?
19:44And you heard anything yet?
19:46And the police were keeping me informed and making themselves available to me.
19:50Thank you. Please let me know.
19:54Nothing yet.
19:57At one point, it felt like a nightmare.
20:03And I was just hoping that you're, that I was wrong and that I had been worrying for nothing.
20:15My fears were pretty dark at that point, but I was hoping that maybe she was just sick.
20:27On the following day, after we did the welfare check, the neighbor contacted the sheriff's office about Cynthia's dog.
20:359-1-1, where's your emergency?
20:38Well, I don't know if anything's going on or not, but this lady across the road, the elderly lady, had
20:43the dog.
20:44Well, it's been out for days and it's been over my porch eating cat food.
20:49The neighbor thought that was very unusual.
20:51She also went with the dog back over to the residence.
20:54I went through the door and knocked on the door to check on the lady and nobody answered.
20:59I followed the dog because it went around back and he kept kissing us this big old pile of brush
21:04and stuff and he just keeps kissing and whining.
21:08The dog kept going to this location in the backyard, pawing at the ground.
21:12It just drew a lot of alarm bells for everybody.
21:17Deputies went and responded to that call.
21:22So I pulled up to the house.
21:24I then went over and spoke with the neighbor, Tonya, who was the complainant for this 911 call.
21:33I asked her to show me specifically the area of the yard that she was uncomfortable with.
21:37Hi, boy.
21:39I'm going to go have a look.
21:41The dog came with me.
21:43He shadowed me over that location.
21:46Along the back fence, directly behind the house, there was what looked to be a harshly covered pile of wood.
21:59I'm a canine handler.
22:00I pay a lot of attention to the dog, to how the dog is interacting with the environment.
22:08As soon as I got close to that wood pile, the dog laid down on his stomach, looked directly at
22:13the side of it, and he whimpered.
22:17His behavior completely changed.
22:19See something.
22:22I realized that what was meant to look like a wood pile was actually a stack of other stuff.
22:32I peeled part of, like, an outdoor backyard pool, and I saw what I thought was a side of a
22:39chest-style freezer.
22:41It was then that it became completely obvious that I was looking at a form of camouflage.
22:46There were several screws holding the freezer door shut.
22:51That immediately set off some red flags for me.
22:54I believed that there was something in the freezer that we needed to get to.
23:00Corporal Radliff calls for backup.
23:04I receive a call to go to Salt and Drive.
23:08So I stop what I'm doing, and I drive there.
23:14When I walk into the backyard, it definitely appeared like someone wanted to conceal this deep freezer from people seeing
23:21it.
23:22I think that that dog was letting us know that something was wrong with that area right there.
23:27We attempt to open it.
23:29We actually use pry bars to get the screws out of the way.
23:35There was a strong odor.
23:40I have only ever been able to associate it with death.
23:46We locate this roll of green carpet.
23:50We lifted the carpet out of the deep freezer, and it's got nylon rope around it, like somebody had tied
23:58the carpet to make it stay together.
24:03Carefully, they started to peel it open little by little.
24:07We're able to see human bones coming out of that carpet in a human skull.
24:18Based on the state of decomposition, this body has obviously been in the freezer much longer than a day.
24:25We believe that the body in the deep freezer is Cynthia Mudd.
24:31I was almost like in disbelief, you know.
24:34It was hard for me to realize that somebody could do this to another human being.
24:47The medical examiner's office was able to determine that it, in fact, was Cynthia Mudd.
24:55The autopsy revealed that Cynthia had a fractured rib and a fractured sternum.
25:03That information told me that either Cynthia had a very severe accident, whether that be a fall or someone else
25:13has caused those injuries.
25:15Due to her being decayed so much, they estimated that she was deceased for at least a month.
25:25Investigators informed Jessica of her mother's death.
25:29My husband and I were on the front porch.
25:33The officer started walking up the steps, and I said it before she could say anything at all.
25:40No.
25:42No.
25:43No.
25:44No, Mom.
25:44He said she's dead.
25:51And she was.
25:55They didn't tell me exactly how she died.
26:00They just told me that they found out that Nan was dead.
26:05It felt like I couldn't breathe.
26:08I kind of wished it was wrong, and that something so heinous could never happen to someone so special to
26:16me.
26:20Investigator Secura warned to search the home Cindy shared with Sam and Arnold.
26:25We were able to enter the house and start doing an investigation and collecting evidence and possibly see if the
26:33crime happened inside the house.
26:36When I'm walking through the residence, I'm looking for blood stains.
26:39Places that, you know, she could have been injured, weapons, anything to tie what happened to her in the deep
26:48freezer in that house.
26:51We noticed that there was a hole in the wall, which could have been made from physical force or maybe
26:56a blunt object.
26:58But there was nothing jumping out at us saying that a crime happened inside the house.
27:06As we made our way out to the garage area, we located the white nylon rope.
27:11That rope seemed similar to the white rope that was used to wrap around the carpet that was surrounding the
27:18body in the freezer.
27:20Whoever did this to Cindy has access to the home and the garage area.
27:26We're really confident that Sam and Arnold most likely had some involvement in her death.
27:32Finding Sam and Arnold is very crucial.
27:38Detectives analyzed the latest transactions on Cindy's debit card to try to pinpoint their location.
27:45On August 17th, there was another transaction in Charleston, West Virginia.
27:49An ATM withdrawal for $400 cash.
27:52That's quite a large amount.
27:54And it prompts us to wonder, is the money being used to, you know, pay to stay somewhere?
28:01It shifted our focus to at least the Charleston area.
28:04I see Cindy's card was attempted to be used at a motel.
28:10It's a Quality Inn.
28:12My mind goes to, they got to have somewhere to lay their heads.
28:15My adrenaline's pumping because, you know, I want to talk to these guys.
28:19I want to figure out what happened to Cindy.
28:23Detectives head to the Quality Inn motel.
28:26We're from the Canal County Sheriff's Office.
28:28Have you seen these two men?
28:30We showed that clerk some photos and they remember those two guys, Sam and Arnold.
28:36When they check in.
28:37It was confirmed that Samuel May and Arnold Hiller checked in to the motel on August 17th.
28:43It's the day before Cynthia Mudd was reported missing.
28:47And that was the day that Sam had turned his location off with Michelle.
28:52I mean, there's no doubt in my mind that they're hiding.
28:55Are they still staying here?
28:56We learned that Sam and Arnold had checked out of the motel on August 22nd, and this date was interesting
29:05because the media had just released that Cynthia's body had been recovered.
29:11Sam and Arnold probably got the feeling that the cards were getting ready to fall.
29:17They realized they needed to make a move.
29:19It was kind of defeating a little bit, but we had another great piece of evidence.
29:24We had the surveillance footage from the hotel.
29:48The lobby camera provided footage that showed Sam and Arnold checking into that motel on August 17th at 429 p
29:56.m.
29:56And it appears that Arnold gives his ID for the room.
30:01And that Sam pays for the room.
30:10In the lobby, their behavior is somewhat unbelievable because something very bad has happened to Cindy.
30:16And here's the two people closest to her that probably know what's happened.
30:23Yet here they are being seen just kind of casually joking, nonchalant in a motel lobby.
30:31Can you place the footage from the camera in their hallway?
30:38We got really lucky on that particular camera placement, and we got really good views of Sam and Arnold.
30:46They appear to leave the room August 22nd at 9.33 a.m.
30:52Sam exits the room wearing a backpack, and shortly after Arnold exits the room, he also has his backpack with
31:02him.
31:03And they walk out of the hotel at that point.
31:07Seeing that surveillance footage from the hotel, it's unable to really help us on where they were going.
31:12I don't know what happened to them at this point.
31:15It's very urgent to locate these two now because, obviously, they know law enforcement is actively looking for them, what's,
31:23you know, going through their heads.
31:32Detective Alford speaking.
31:34So on the morning of August 23rd, I received a phone call that Charleston Police Department has Samuel May.
31:43We learned he had actually jumped in the river on the 22nd.
31:48I don't know if he was just using the river to try to maybe float and travel as far as
31:53he could to the next city.
31:55But some people had saw him, called 911, so he was in the hospital overnight.
32:01That moment I got that phone call about Samuel May, like, I was, I'm excited.
32:07I want to be in the interview room with him.
32:11Investigators bring Samuel May back to the sheriff's office for questioning.
32:16We're just here to figure out what happened.
32:19You saw the news, you said, so, obviously, that's what we want to talk to you about.
32:25So just start at the end.
32:28And I'm not one to lie.
32:30And Detective Morgan had just come out and, you know, just flat out asked him.
32:36Let's start from top, say, did you kill her?
32:43Did you kill her?
32:45Who?
32:47Cindy?
32:48Yeah.
32:49I did.
32:49When he heard that, we were kind of taken aback from it.
32:53Like, wow.
32:54Like, he's, he's ready to talk.
32:56He's ready to tell us what's, what really happened.
33:10They had gotten drunk and they walked home.
33:14But it was, it was late and I went straight to bed.
33:18And when I got up, you know,
33:24Ornn was trying to get me to help her and all that.
33:29And I mean, you could tell there had been some damage.
33:32I mean, nothing.
33:33What kind of damage then?
33:35Uh, some face punches.
33:37Okay.
33:38I mean, I, I don't, I mean.
33:40Exactly.
33:41Were those punches from you?
33:44When you blocked out, unlikely?
33:46More than likely.
33:47Oh.
33:48He's just like, yeah, I, I blacked out on, I woke up and she was hurt really bad.
33:53It seemed like almost like he didn't really care as much.
34:03I don't believe you blacked out.
34:05I, I believe you knew what happened.
34:07Yeah, he's admitting a little bit, but he doesn't want to go into all that detail because he knows what
34:12he did was really horrible.
34:15He said that he has assaulted Cindy before and he's been involved in a few other domestics.
34:25We asked him why he hadn't called the hospital whenever Cindy was hurt.
34:37It blows my mind that neither one of them called 911.
34:41It didn't matter.
34:43I, and I knew that she quit breathing on the bed over, over one of the nights.
34:50But we found out that Cindy's death wasn't immediate.
34:53It took a few days.
34:55When we checked on her and stuff like that.
34:57Yeah.
34:57You know, when I was so freaked out, I couldn't even, I couldn't even, you know, with a big fear.
35:05He was thinking about himself and not her.
35:09He said that after she had passed away, they decided to take her and roll her up in the carpet,
35:15in the deep freezer.
35:16He kind of went about his normal, his normal day.
35:20Sam is charged with the murder of Cindy Mudd, as well as the concealment of her body.
35:27Sam didn't admit to remembering what he did.
35:29So we were hoping to ascertain that information from Arnold.
35:33So we had put out still images asking for the public's help in locating Arnold.
35:41Approximately two weeks later, Arnold is located in Beckley and arrested.
35:47We charged Arnold with fraudulent use of someone's debit or credit card.
35:51He's placed in a regional jail.
35:55We were able to come to an agreement for an interview with Arnold.
36:00He tells us that Sam basically steps on her head four or five times.
36:06And when I say step, I mean with force.
36:09The deep freezer idea was Sam's idea and Arnold did assist with disposing of her body.
36:17In January of 2023, Arnold Hiller pleads guilty to concealment and disposal of a body.
36:23The fraud charges against Arnold are dropped as part of his guilty plea.
36:29Arnold was sentenced to one to five years.
36:34In August of 2023, Samuel May pled guilty to second-degree murder.
36:39And he was handed a sentence of 40 years in a penitentiary maximum.
36:44As part of the plea deal, prosecutors dropped all other charges against Sam.
36:52Investigators pieced together the events that led to Cindy's death.
36:55The investigation revealed that Sam had a tendency to be violent.
36:59There was reported incidents involving him and Cynthia.
37:02Michelle and Jessica had both said that he's very abusive towards women.
37:07One night in early July, Sam and Arnold go out to a bar and drink.
37:11When they got back from the bar, Cindy was up in the living room.
37:17According to Sam, he blacked out and doesn't recall exactly what happened.
37:22But I would say he was in a fit of rage.
37:25He hit, most likely kicked Cynthia, causing a fractured rib and a fractured sternum.
37:42The following day, he realized that he messed up and he needed help.
37:47And he knew Arnold would help him.
37:49They keep her alive for about three days.
37:53They gave her water, trying to sustain her until she eventually died.
38:00And then the two of them conspired to hide her body by wrapping it in carpet.
38:06And then they put that carpet with Cynthia's body inside of a deep freezer.
38:19And took the freezer out to the backyard where they concealed it with a tarp and stacked other objects up
38:24around it.
38:25When Sam and Arnold were using her debit card at the Speedway in mid-July, they were using it after
38:32her death.
38:32When they realized that family reported her missing is when they decided to leave the house.
38:41On August 17th, Sam takes off the Life 360 tracking app.
38:48And they make it to the Quality Inn.
38:54Well, I think it just shows that both of them are very selfish.
38:57And, you know, they didn't want to get in trouble for what had happened.
39:02Whereas, you know, if they had called 911 when she was alive, you know,
39:07there's a chance that they could have saved Cindy's life.
39:12I don't think there's really a big motive for Sam.
39:15I think he's just such an aggressive, like, just a bad person and thought he could get away with it.
39:22Cindy's kindness was definitely abused by Sam and Arnold.
39:36CCTV was very helpful in this investigation.
39:40Actually critical.
39:42So I'm putting timelines down.
39:44The surveillance footage in this case was a very big part.
39:48I think it would have took a lot longer to resolve if we didn't have the surveillance footage.
39:59It hurts.
40:03And there's always that, well, maybe if I had just been forceful and, you know, gone in there and just
40:10taken her out, that she would finally leave him.
40:13And that just never happened.
40:15There's a lot of guilt involved.
40:19Yeah.
40:22I miss her laugh.
40:24I miss the way that she hugs.
40:27I don't know where the world goes without Nan.
40:36I don't know where it's supposed to go without Nan.
40:39She's my mom.
40:41A person who loved me and taught me lessons and...
40:49helped me when I needed her.
40:52If I could say anything to my mom today.
41:01I would want her to know how much she's loved and missed.
41:10Next time on Sino Evil.
41:13911 emergency.
41:14This was an intentionally set fire.
41:17My son told me, no, mom, he's been murdered.
41:20What I never could have expected is video of them doing it.
41:25I mean, you can't even hope for something like that.
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