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The First 48 - Season 28 - Episode 11: Inside the Tape Special #19
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00:26I'm at 1400 South Louis.
00:30I was flagged down by a homeless individual about his buddy being sick, and his buddy is ten-seven, so
00:41many homicides.
01:02What's up, Jason?
01:03Hey.
01:06I don't know yet.
01:12He's probably been here a minute.
01:14When I first got here, the shoe had dew on it, so that indicates the shoe's been sitting in that
01:18position overnight.
01:31Looks like there could be some blood right there.
01:34Look at that.
01:37Yep.
01:38That's a weapon.
01:42That's good.
01:42That's real good.
01:46I swab everything I can on the cane, so.
01:49Look at that.
01:51See it?
01:54There's a tooth on top of that blue blanket.
01:58Maybe from a suspect if they got into a fight.
02:01Yeah.
02:02The guy that got flagged officers down, he's got some kind of wounds on him, so they transported him.
02:09And then Severus just happened to do some kind of pet check before this and saw this guy with marks
02:14on him.
02:16So he went and re-acquired him, so you're going to have two people downtown.
02:21All right, I'm going to head downtown.
02:23I'm going to start talking to these guys.
02:35We've got two guys up here right now.
02:37One of them's got blood all over him.
02:40It's possible that he could have tried to help his friend after he'd already been attacked.
02:45And then the other guy just happened to be walking in the neighborhood of where this happened.
02:51And he also has a hand injury.
02:54We'll probably start with him first.
02:56I don't know who the victim is yet.
02:58Hopefully, I can learn about that as well.
03:05Hey, buddy.
03:09I didn't even smell you yet.
03:14Well, first off, I appreciate you coming down here.
03:16I'm Detective White, Jason White.
03:19Let me make sure that I've got your correct information.
03:21It's Craig Evan Burton.
03:23Yes, sir.
03:25Where were you last night?
03:27St. John's Hospital.
03:29Where were you doing in the hospital?
03:30I had an accident.
03:32I banged my head pretty freaking hard, man.
03:36I mean, it wasn't because of a fight or anything like that.
03:42I mean, it was.
03:43I haven't said anything about a fight.
03:45Well, I'm just saying.
03:46I just wanted to let you know that it wasn't about a fight.
03:50We're investigating a situation where a guy got assaulted, okay?
03:53Oh, no.
03:54No.
03:55Okay.
03:55Then how did you hurt?
03:56I'm noticing your hand, it looks like it got hurt.
03:59What's this from?
04:00My hand is tore up.
04:02From what?
04:03Not from a fight.
04:04Not from a fight, sir.
04:07Do you ever use a cane?
04:10Yeah.
04:11Where is it?
04:13I don't have a clue.
04:16Perfect.
04:16I'll be back shortly.
04:24I don't know.
04:25He's got a fresh injury.
04:27He's got some blood on him.
04:28We'll see.
04:30I don't want to just rip into him because, quite frankly,
04:32he could be telling me the truth.
04:36All right.
04:39Is it Mickey?
04:42Tell me about your night last night.
04:46Who's we?
04:47Me and Craig.
04:50So you were hanging out with Craig?
04:52Uh-huh.
04:53Okay.
04:55Did anything happen?
04:56Was there any kind of altercation?
04:59Not that I know of.
05:00Not that you know of.
05:03You have, I want you to look down at your arms.
05:05What is that?
05:07Blood.
05:07That's blood.
05:08Lots of blood.
05:10The injuries that you have on you right this minute, to me, look like from a fight.
05:16Is that fair to say?
05:17Yes, sir.
05:18Okay.
05:19Did you get into a fight last night?
05:21No.
05:23Did somebody hurt you last night?
05:25I don't know.
05:29Are you and Craig pretty good friends?
05:31Yeah.
05:32Are you good enough friends with Craig that where you would lie for him?
05:40Well, I've spent some circumstances.
05:43If it's a big enough crime I wouldn't want to put myself involved in it.
05:54would you lie to me if it's a big crime yeah i would
06:02okay well let's let's not do that today okay let me show you this picture of this guy
06:08who's this white shows mickey a picture of crack the other man found near the scene
06:16recognize that guy
06:24all right let me holler at him right quick
06:34he's saying craig craig was with us well that's contestant number one i show him a picture of
06:39him i said you know this guy no never seen him before that's not craig
06:44mickey has already said that he would lie to protect himself and somebody else
06:48could he be lying for this guy i don't know
06:56okay we have a name of somebody else
07:00craig henderson investigators still at the crime scene find an id card
07:07a little bit of work they're gonna make me work for it a little bit that's okay
07:15that might be my victim hang on a minute all right hey that's gonna be the victim
07:22the victim's gonna be craig henderson
07:27that's an id card of the victim they said it looks consistent with him
07:31so that kind of clears up the mystery of the craig
07:38all right now we're cooking
07:44who's that
07:46that's great okay
07:49did you lose any teeth last night
07:52no i'm gonna shine my light in there just to make sure okay
07:57now i'm not a dentist but it looks like you have a tooth that's broke off
08:00on the bottom part of your jaw
08:05was craig hurting you
08:10how did he hurt you
08:14he hit you with the cane craig uses a cane
08:19who started the fight last night
08:23okay would you would you consider it one of those things where it just happened
08:27because of out of anger
08:30just kind of a fight that went too far
08:33okay so it was just the two of you that were fighting
08:35is that right
08:37what made you decide to tell me the truth
08:43all right well that's that takes a man to do that so i appreciate it
08:46good for you okay
08:48i'm gonna i'm gonna get rid of this other guy then
08:56so it just so happens we have a we have a guy that's up here
08:59whose name happens to be craig with a huge a huge black eye
09:03who actually walks with a cane on occasion
09:05so that's a totally different craig that just happened to be walking along
09:09yeah yeah with blood on him as well
09:11you know what are the odds
09:13nothing to do with it
09:16absolute coincidence
09:23okay buddy i'm gonna tell these officers that i'm good to go with you
09:26and uh they'll take you anywhere you need to go
09:30mickey's been very cooperative at this point
09:33and i believe i i think that he really doesn't really remember
09:36a lot of what had happened last night
09:38he just knows that they were fighting
09:39and it went too far
09:42we're gonna go with first degree manslaughter
09:44i think it's good that he came around
10:06do you happen to know any of his relatives
10:08i know i'm racking your brain probably because that's a long time ago you guys were married
10:14i i'm sorry for this kind of a phone call but i appreciate your time thank you
10:19bye bye
10:22we did get in touch with the ex-wife
10:24they've been divorced forever
10:26what we're learning about him is that he just didn't have any relatives around so
10:29i mean usually there's somebody you can find
10:32for the most part everybody's got somebody out there that loves them
10:35and i'm just not i'm not hearing that in this particular case
10:39sad
10:53the city of tulsa saw a violent year in 2016 with record breaking homicides
10:58armed robberies and assaults the tulsa county district attorney's office says
11:02most of those crimes involved a person who was affiliated with a gang
11:07it's this fear that has the tulsa police gang unit out in full force
11:11the gang's unit recovered both guns and ammo after they served nearly a dozen search warrants
11:18it's a lot like street terrorism
11:21police say what makes this so frightening is that
11:23there's no specific geographic boundaries for this gang violence
11:33did you see anything
11:36no i just see a couple of guys who are
11:47yeah this dude's bleeding
11:57crime scene's gonna be over at the car wash where they got caught at
12:00right now
12:01yeah
12:02yeah
12:05let's hear it
12:06let's hear it
12:16our victim is elon shaw 28 year old elon shaw worked at a popular barbecue restaurant
12:24and was the loving father of two daughters
12:30the guy survives he scares the best and somebody's got to snatch up and haul him downtown
12:36the victim's friend who was unharmed has been taken to homicide for questioning
12:47there's one there
12:52there's some out here
13:02gentlemen said blackmail white shirt uh black shorts run that way holding this waistband
13:10i'm gonna hit boston north over here yeah ready while detectives searched the neighborhood for
13:19the runner you ready brown and shilling head to homicide to interview the victim's friend
13:29with the recent events that we've had people just randomly shooting it sounds like it fits
13:35in with the rest of this garbage that's going on the last few weeks bright daylight in the car wash
13:41you know the gang lifestyle friend after friend gets locked out but you have to still keep
13:49just randomly shooting at each other over nothing
14:02well hopefully he's got some information about who the shooter is
14:13what happened
14:17i was washing my car it was up there for about an hour and elon was sitting in the back
14:23seat
14:24and then i mean i thought it was fireworks i'm not paying nobody no attention i'm not even
14:30thinking about nobody's shooting so then when i looked it was a dude standing there shooting
14:39he had on a white t-shirt and a sailor hat
14:54you got to strike while the iron's hot man because if you don't forget it nobody's going to care
15:00about this thing you got to get them before they've been intimidated
15:11now he's banging on the windows
15:18right there yeah we need to check in before shizzle
15:21come here man
15:25we want to talk to you
15:32yeah we need to check that guy
15:43he's got that door cracked ronnie
15:47he's looking out the windows
15:59oh here we go
16:04come here
16:07come on back here relax
16:11why didn't you just come talking
16:13he is not the man detectives are looking for
16:19he did the right thing by coming out and talking to me
16:21if you hear something would you please call me
16:22he sure will
16:24thank you
16:24do you know who this guy was
16:34why are they shooting at you guys
16:36you claiming anything
16:41the victim's friend says he and elon have nothing to do with the local warring gangs
16:48yeah and it just entered the chamber that's when i realized that's my chance to run
16:54and i seen elon i didn't see no blood no nothing
16:58he didn't look like he was shot when we ran across the street
17:06i don't know if you know elon has died
17:14no he didn't
17:16no he didn't man
17:19this is no longer about you
17:21it's your mind
17:23this is about what happened to elon
17:27and you are a part of that because they're shooting at you
17:36yes i'm from 27th street
17:39i have not been active since 07
17:42okay so what about elon has he done something
17:46he's never been in trouble other than tickets
17:49you won't find him in the system for nothing
17:52he's not a target
17:54why do you assume he's not a target
17:56he was aiming
17:58he was aiming at me
18:00but you don't know why
18:01i don't know why
18:02if you did know would you tell me
18:04yes because he's dead
18:07there ain't nothing i can do man
18:09i can't bring him back no matter what i do
18:13i can't bring him back
18:15i think 27 is a hoover set
18:28the hoover crips is the big daddy group
18:31and then there's a bunch of little siblings running around
18:33you know there's the 107 hoovers
18:35the 54th street hoovers
18:37the 29th street hoovers
18:39or 27th street hoovers
18:40but they don't get along
18:42all the time
18:44any one of those kids can grab a gun
18:46and shoot it up
18:47and then they have their street cred
18:49so the elon shaw case
18:51was going to be a tough one to crack
18:55it is frustrating when you're dealing with gang shootings
18:59always the possibility of retaliation
19:02different sets keeping their mouths closed
19:04not saying anything
19:05and believing that they will take care of the issues themselves
19:12detectives say our entire community is at risk
19:15with the recent surge in gang violence
19:18when is enough enough
19:20and many of them
19:21including last week's murder of an innocent bystander
19:24have gone unsolved
19:25i asked sergeant walker why
19:28it's going to take people putting those gang members in prison
19:31and unless those people step up to give police what they need
19:35walker says the killings will not stop
19:38and any of us could be next
19:48six months later
19:51elon shaw's friend
19:52is back at homicide
19:54okay
19:56it's coming to my attention
19:57that you talk to a couple of detectives this morning
19:59he has been arrested
20:01and is in jail
20:02on an unrelated charge
20:21i mean i understand rival gangs
20:28but typically don't you kind of know who
20:30nothing necessarily
20:32it's on some gangbang stuff
20:33they know you from another side
20:35they'll shoot at you
20:36that's just
20:37that's how it is
20:39you know what he's locked up for
20:40murder
20:43he tell you that or you find out by
20:44he said
20:50we've got a little bit of homework to do on that
20:53to confirm whether or not that guy is out on the streets
20:55if he was locked up
20:56it's just a matter of proving it to be true
21:01you
21:17you
21:18you
21:18you
21:19run now he has my god
21:21okay what's going on there
21:23my girlfriend's in there
21:24i came home on my lunch break
21:26he was in there
21:28he came up behind me
21:29who is in there
21:31our neighbors
21:32your neighbor
21:33does he have some weapons
21:34he has my gun
21:36do you need medical attention
21:39i don't but i don't know if she does
21:40my girlfriend's in there
21:42okay i'll get officers on the way
21:54hey diana do you have any more information
22:05does it look like she's gonna go 10-7
22:11all right
22:14the boyfriend came home and caught an intruder in the house that was assaulting the victim
22:19down there the strangulation
22:21they got a pulse back
22:23they got a pulse back but she's incredible
22:28they got a pulse back but she's incredible
22:50she recently became engaged to her boyfriend
22:53riley allen
23:14the suspect was hiding in the bathroom in the apartment next door
23:19he ran out of the apartment and went right into that apartment
23:41the suspect 41 year old greg epperson was a person of interest in two other investigations
23:59i look at him and i'm going that's greg epperson
24:03unbelievable
24:04what are the odds
24:06you want the tenant to
24:09yeah we probably need to talk to her too
24:11okay
24:12the owner of the apartment that greg fled to is also taken to homicide
24:17all right thanks guys appreciate it we'll see you down there
24:39you need some water or something
24:41he brought me something i appreciate it
24:48uh...
24:48we're staying back to this new today and then i'll start you
24:52so you know at my lunch break at 3 o'clock
24:56But I noticed her car was here.
25:00Maybe she just took a late lunch, so I called her a couple times.
25:05She usually takes a little nap on her lunch, and that wasn't unusual that she didn't answer.
25:11So I knocked on the door.
25:14So I turned the key and opened the door, and I saw my rifle case laying on the stairs.
25:21It all happened so fast, I saw it, and then I saw him.
25:25Where was he?
25:27He was standing behind the door.
25:29He punched me in the face, and then I kind of stumbled backwards, and then he put me in a
25:35hold.
25:36And he's whispering stuff in my ear.
25:40I can't.
25:41Well, really, I couldn't make any of it out.
25:45And so I punched him in the face.
25:48I slipped out of him and ran outside.
25:51And I ran into the lady that lives in his door.
25:55At this point, you have no idea with Kelsey?
25:57No.
25:58No, I didn't.
26:00Do you know if Kelsey's okay?
26:02She's critical.
26:03She's pretty bad.
26:05I brought her back up.
26:21She's not going to make it.
26:34She's not going to make it.
26:38If we could have got him put away.
26:43This apartment that we're going to person come out of, it belongs to the lady in there.
26:48That's who rents the apartment.
26:50I'll start on her.
26:52Hopefully, we can at least find out what this was all about.
26:58Okay.
26:59I'm Detective Kennedy.
27:04That's your apartment, obviously.
27:07Do you live there by yourself?
27:08Yes.
27:10Okay.
27:10Greg, is he a friend of yours?
27:13He's a very good friend of mine.
27:15But he does not live there?
27:17Not no more.
27:20I don't know where he stays.
27:25Has Greg ever talked to you about any other cases he's been involved in?
27:39Well, I was really good friends with him when he was arrested.
27:47What did he say?
27:48Did he say anything about him?
27:49He just told me he didn't know anything about him.
27:52Did you ever talk about another case?
27:54No, but someone else told me about it.
27:57Well, let's go back today.
27:59Okay.
28:01I heard a knock.
28:03I was upstairs getting ready for work.
28:05She says Greg Epperson suddenly showed up this morning.
28:09He's gone really, really hungry.
28:10Is it okay if I eat?
28:11I was already dressed.
28:12I was walking out the door.
28:15She let Greg stay as she left for work before returning in the afternoon.
28:21I'm coming back, and that's when my neighbor came out.
28:23And he had blood all over him.
28:25And he said, help me, help me.
28:27He's in my apartment.
28:29He goes, he has a gun.
28:30And I was like, what?
28:32He was like, I don't know if she's okay.
28:34Please, please.
28:35And I opened the door, and there was Greg.
28:38In?
28:38In the apartment.
28:39In the kid's apartment?
28:40Yes.
28:41I said, Greg, give me the gun.
28:44And he said, they're trying to kill me.
28:45They're trying to kill me.
28:45They're trying to hurt me.
28:46And I said, Greg, look at me.
28:48Give me the gun.
28:49No one's going to hurt you.
28:50Please just give me the gun.
28:53And so I got the gun, and I walked up the stairs, and that's when I saw her right there.
29:01And when I turned around to say something to him, she was gone.
29:04Greg was?
29:05He was gone.
29:05Okay.
29:07But I just left 15 minutes earlier.
29:11And, man, you can't put this on you.
29:12I know.
29:13That's not your fault this happened.
29:19Good witness.
29:20I mean, she puts him in the apartment right after the kid comes out of it, so he's been attacked.
29:27So how did he get in the sliding glass door?
29:30Detective Mike Zanoni gets new information from the crime scene.
29:34Oh, there.
29:35All right.
29:36She walked in on a burglary.
29:37Right.
29:38You probably went in the sliding glass door.
29:40Right.
29:40So he went around the corner and found a bag of clothing and a cord with blonde hair on it
29:45right next to the victim's apartment.
29:47She goes to work at 10, and she said she usually comes home 2-ish.
29:51She came home for lunch.
29:52She walked in on a burglary.
29:59Wake up.
30:00We got to talk.
30:02I have a seat in the back there.
30:11Gregory, Mike Zanoni.
30:14How you doing?
30:18Okay.
30:19Do you want to talk about the incident that happened at the apartment?
30:25I have no issue talking about the incident that happened.
30:30Mm-hmm.
30:31Tomorrow.
30:32Tomorrow?
30:33Well, that's wrong.
30:34After I get some sleep, after I get some rest, I want to speak with you.
30:39Well, see, we haven't had any rest either.
30:41So we're sitting here, and we're ready to talk now.
30:44Now, you can either do that or not.
30:46That's your choice.
30:55Okay.
30:59Okay.
30:59We'll be back with you.
31:00All right.
31:02All right.
31:02All right.
31:08This is a sad one.
31:10This hurts.
31:11This murder here.
31:15That should have never happened to that girl.
31:19One.
31:20It's terrible.
31:21They didn't hear from things, because I've turned around to consider.
31:40The impossible thing is, but we're only here.
31:43This will have to be believed to be loved.
31:44It's also so funny.
31:45So this is the very moment.
31:50Brian just be truthful about everything yeah we're pretty good at detecting when
31:57people are lying I want you to just be truthful start off with the incident
32:01what happened on the incident yeah on the incident incident yeah I was in the
32:11backseat playing with his gun he was playing around playing around keep
32:17playing it around and I guess it was shot fired that's it that's a really good
32:23version I don't like it because it's bull because there's things called
32:30forensic evidence at the scene and like I said we've been doing this for years so
32:36why don't you tell me the truth this time
32:53let me look see what it looks like
33:00the victim is 16 years old gunshot man
33:05godly young
33:08Octavio Serrano yeah
33:1216 year old Octavio Tavo Serrano was a student at McLean High School in Tulsa
33:20the witnesses in the back of one of our cars a friend who called 9-1-1 was with the
33:27victim
33:27when patrol arrived oh Brian that's the witness
33:34the victims in the passenger seat playing with the gun and the gun goes up so they pull
33:39over and he calls 911 and starts CPR and all that stuff
33:45they have a lawnmower hanging out of the trunk that he couldn't explain why it was
33:49back there acted like he didn't know it was there was he acting a little suspicious at all or
33:54uh yeah what he said wasn't not enough weird area for something like this this is probably the
34:02highest in neighborhood in the entire city I mean you've got million dollar homes over here
34:06so this is not a neighborhood that we deal with this kind of stuff we're in
34:13hey what's up man oh not much what's up got a uh I mean the story's messy the scene's pretty
34:21contained it looks like these two guys were out here probably burglaring they're wearing little
34:27gloves they're wearing burglar gloves there's like nothing in the car to suggest that he was shot
34:35inside the car we have not found a single drop of blood inside the car but he's got yeah he's
34:43got
34:43down drops on the curb on his shoes on the bottom of his pants which you wouldn't have if you
34:49were in
34:49a seated position so with guns right there and uh that's going to be your casing right there
35:00that's not supposed to be out there right especially with the windows up
35:05yeah when you have the windows up it's not going to do that no this don't make any damn sounds
35:14hey john thanks for coming in do you know if there's a butthole in the deck of the trunk
35:19no I didn't on the driver's side sorry
35:25looks fresh there in an odd spot that is weird but if the trunk is open due to the lawnmower
35:39yeah that goes through he didn't get shot in this car
35:45detectives believe the victim was standing behind the car and was shot through the open trunk
35:51but he didn't shoot himself no this guy's standing back here messing with the lawnmower trying to get
35:56into the trunk and this guy's over here messing with the gun shoots his friend through the trunk
36:01the angles all look right right now it does the casing would be over there
36:10there's no blood so that means that he would have had to stumble over here
36:15we'll talk to this kid and see what he's got to say
36:18it could have been somewhat of an accidental situation
36:21I can promise you this it didn't happen while they were driving down the street
36:33why were you guys over in that neighborhood
36:37we were just cruising
36:41Octavio he was in the back
36:44he was playing with his gun back here
36:47and like
36:49I guess it just
36:51boom
36:59all right
37:01listen
37:01I'm going to give you a fresh time to do this again
37:03because that's that's a bunch of nonsense
37:06would you agree with that
37:09all right
37:10here's the deal
37:11okay
37:13he's he is dead
37:15Octavio
37:16he's dead
37:16yeah he's dead
37:18that's why this is a very very serious matter
37:22hold up hold up
37:27you want some water
37:28is he already dead
37:29yeah
37:34I know it's horrible for you
37:35okay
37:37there's no doubt that you guys were friends
37:39this is why it's important
37:41to tell me everything
37:44I just need to know what happened
37:46and how he got shot
37:53based on where the gun is
37:55and where other things are
37:56I don't think he shot himself
37:57okay
38:02we're gonna meet up
38:03so like
38:04you know
38:04we can hang out
38:06he wanted his gun
38:07I'm like
38:08for what bro
38:09we're going to the store
38:10like
38:10who you had problems with bro
38:12you just want to look cool
38:14you know
38:15I'm like
38:16give me that gun bro
38:17like
38:17you're 16 years old
38:19well like
38:20I took it away from him
38:21like
38:22you know
38:22I took it away from him
38:25later on
38:25we got out the car
38:26and he was just like
38:28trying to like
38:28take it away
38:29you know
38:29and I was like
38:30bro stop bro
38:31like
38:33I know you
38:33you're crazy
38:35and I'm not here bro
38:36I just went like that
38:38like
38:40and when he caught it
38:42like
38:42I guess like
38:43the
38:43the thing
38:44you know
38:45like
38:46boom
38:53I'm gonna show you
38:53a couple of things
38:56here's a view
38:56of the car
38:57okay
38:59this is the driver's side
39:00of the car
39:01your friend is laying
39:02over here
39:03by this driver's side
39:06you see this bullet hole
39:07right here
39:08this is straight on gunshot
39:09to the trunk of the car
39:11right here
39:13you claim
39:14that you're standing
39:15over there
39:15on the front of the car
39:16that you throw
39:17the gun over to him
39:18over here
39:19that's not possible
39:21so
39:21we need you
39:22to be honest
39:24it's either
39:24an accident
39:25or it was
39:25an intentional
39:26situation
39:27intentional means
39:28like
39:29wanting to kill
39:29somebody
39:30yeah
39:31I don't think
39:32you would have
39:32done that
39:33to your friend
39:33intentionally
39:36like
39:36this happened
39:37look
39:38that was back there
39:40he threw it at me
39:42and when I caught it
39:43like
39:44you know
39:46okay
39:47so when you caught it
39:48it just accidentally
39:48went off
39:49fired
39:49yeah
39:51okay
39:51so just so I'm clear
39:53you were holding the gun
39:55and the gun went off
39:56basically
40:07the physical evidence
40:09was everything
40:10in this case
40:11everything
40:12when we confronted him
40:13with the pictures
40:14of what we were talking about
40:16it went from his minimizing
40:18to this is what happened
40:21the gun went off
40:22while in his hands
40:23thus striking him
40:25at the back of the car
40:26it's a death
40:28resulting in his negligence
40:53we're going to head
40:54to the victim's mothers
40:56and notify her
40:57of her son's death
40:58which is going to be miserable
40:59because he's 16 years old
41:27Hello
41:28Irma
41:30Do you mind if we step in?
41:45They were very gracious to us.
41:47We had Brian's family showing up as well.
41:50His dad showed up just beside himself, devastated.
41:54Brian's brother arrived.
41:56He was super upset.
41:58And you could tell that they were close with this family and that they were really good friends.
42:02They were like best of friends and such.
42:05Running around in the streets late at night with a gun, it's not a good idea.
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