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The First 48 S29E19 Unforgotten Rob H 264
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00:01This program documents actual homicide investigations.
00:05Criminal charges are often dropped or reduced,
00:07and all suspects shown are presumed innocent unless proven guilty.
00:23We have been screaming justice for Rob Cobain.
00:28Screaming it. I'm screaming it. Justice.
00:32He was an artist. He worked, supported his kids.
00:36No criminal history whatsoever.
00:39And he's found shot and killed in his own apartment
00:42for no reason that we have been able to find.
00:45It's not just a homicide case anymore.
00:48I take it personal that this is sitting unsolved on mining.
00:54Detective Schaefer, he was passionate about this case,
00:57but he got promoted to put back on the road.
01:00So, I'm gonna pick up where he left off.
01:05He was the people of life.
01:07No matter where you saw him, he was smiling.
01:09He was always encouraging.
01:11And his biggest aim was unity.
01:14He loved music and he loved his kids.
01:17That was his life.
01:18He was a fan of all music.
01:21Kurt Cobain, that was one of his idols.
01:24And he took that moniker and thus Rob Cobain was born.
01:29He was just a phenomenal artist.
01:31But as a father and an artist, this story got cut short.
01:36He definitely did not deserve this.
01:39And we're all just so heartbroken.
01:41I must be captain of the planet.
01:43I feel the earth's pain.
01:45My little heart is damaged.
01:46Heartbroken.
01:48Heartbroken.
01:48Woo!
01:49I'm heartbroken.
01:51Heartbroken.
01:51Woo!
02:10In North Charleston's Forest Hills neighborhood, the property manager of an apartment complex calls 9-1-1.
02:199-1-1, what's the address of the emergency?
02:22Lowell Drive.
02:23Somebody reported that the sliding door was shattered.
02:27And I'm right outside of the window, or the door.
02:31And I can see someone inside, sitting up on the couch.
02:36His head is back.
02:37And there's a part of holding his face.
02:40Okay, I'm getting help on the way.
02:52Is that your apartment?
02:53No, it's the apartment.
02:54Do we know whose apartment that is?
02:56I believe it's the person that's in the apartment.
03:021-15 dispatchers.
03:04Appears to be a shooting.
03:05I'm clearing the apartment.
03:07North Charleston Police Department!
03:14AEMS, you guys are clearing.
03:18Chief for your friend's dispatcher.
03:19No siren or uncoated.
03:21Check on him.
03:23Get out of pulse.
03:25Sorry.
03:26Okay.
03:271-15 dispatchers.
03:29It's going to be confirmed.
03:2910-7.
03:31All right, copy.
03:32Detectives are en route.
03:442-30.
03:452-30.
03:45All right.
03:462-32.
03:47Detectives are en route.
04:01This next door neighbor at 5 a.m. heard two bangs, two loud bangs.
04:07She thought it was a car accident or whatever.
04:09Around 10-ish, she noticed the glass was shattered.
04:13And then at that point, she called for the maintenance.
04:16When the maintenance man spotted the victim, he contacted the property manager, who called
04:209-1-1.
04:22Robert Brown.
04:23That's what the mail on the floor in there says.
04:26That looks like.
04:3140-year-old Robert Brown III, known by his stage name, Rob Cobain, was a local hip-hop
04:37artist who also worked at a jewelry store.
04:41Recently divorced, he had a 9-year-old son with his ex-wife and a 13-year-old daughter
04:46from a previous relationship.
04:54The front door was locked when I got here, deadbolted.
04:56I made entry through this hole right here.
04:58If the wares were open on the side, that was like that when we got here.
05:14Rob was shot four times in the back, legs, and ankle.
05:23He's using his underwear.
05:26What is this, PS4?
05:29They were maybe playing the game.
05:33Oh, there you go right there.
05:35So, one shell casing.
05:37The team finds a shell casing on the living room floor.
05:42Is there anyone back there, too?
05:43Shaker.
05:45Another one behind the couch.
05:47Facing.
05:49And one in the front hallway.
05:56Whoever it was, he was very close when they started shooting him.
06:00There's blood all over there.
06:02There clearly was a scuffle at the door.
06:05The guess is that him and someone else were fighting.
06:07And that's when the shot started going off.
06:09Maybe he's trying to flee.
06:11Could have been shooting him and put one through the glass.
06:15And then from there, he had collapsed right in front of the couch.
06:20There's a bag of weed.
06:24His phone is in his back bedroom.
06:29The original responding officer said he noticed that the front door was bolt locked.
06:34The window was open.
06:35I'm thinking that's how they went in.
06:37Could be.
06:38Not impossible.
06:40There's a possibility this was just a random burglary gone wrong.
06:45My personal opinion, somebody else was let in the house.
06:50Maybe possible girlfriend involved or something because he's in his underwear in there.
06:56And I don't think he would have been like hanging out with one of his buddies or another dude in
06:59there.
07:00Like half naked or whatever.
07:03Right now we have to canvas for video.
07:06Hopefully get lucky because right now we don't have a lot to go off of.
07:11It's gonna be a tough one.
07:19Can I ask you a question real quick?
07:21Did you hear anything earlier this morning?
07:22Any shouting, arguing or anything like that?
07:25Okay.
07:26Alright, well I appreciate you guys.
07:29Has anybody already talked to you?
07:32Okay.
07:36Everybody must be at work.
07:40Okay.
07:41Call him Rob.
07:43Okay.
07:44One of Rob's neighbors comes forward.
07:46His ex-wife know that they just got recently divorced.
07:50He has two kids from Jeremy and then he has an autistic son.
07:55Okay.
07:56Did they live there?
07:57Sometimes.
07:58Rob's car was broken down.
08:00So his daughter has been staying with his ex-wife so she could get a ride to school.
08:04Yeah.
08:05And you don't know him to have any drama or beef with anybody like that?
08:08Mm-mm.
08:09He did live with these two individuals.
08:11They live in his daughter's room.
08:13What did those two people name that he would live with before?
08:17Half no fear.
08:18But it's a girl and then a man.
08:20Black, both black.
08:21Okay.
08:22He did keep them up.
08:24When was that that he kicked them out?
08:26Two and a half months away.
08:28Okay.
08:38Two hours in.
08:40Avery's next door.
08:41Made a call to her.
08:43So she came over here to give us a little bit more information.
08:46Okay.
08:47Another friend of Rob's arrives on scene.
08:49Hello.
08:50I'm Detective Schaefer.
08:51My name is Aisha Guinness.
08:53So what's your relationship to Robert?
08:56We're friends.
08:57Okay.
08:58Has there been any drama recently in the house over there?
09:01Like arguments between people, fights, anything like that?
09:04No.
09:04That's why we were trying to figure out because he honestly, he's not that type of person.
09:08Right.
09:08He's really a happy-go-lucky guy.
09:10Mm-mm.
09:11So...
09:12How's the relationship with the ex-wife?
09:13Is everything good?
09:14Yeah, they're fine.
09:15They recently just signed their papers.
09:17Okay.
09:18But it wasn't a heated divorce.
09:19It wasn't bad.
09:20Do you know him to be involved in anything bad like drug dealing or anything like that?
09:24Narcotics?
09:25Anything to that extent?
09:26No.
09:27He smoked a little weed.
09:28Okay.
09:31What about friend-wise?
09:32Who else did Rob hang out with?
09:34He was a ladies' man.
09:35He hung out with different girls.
09:38He just had been going through some things, you know?
09:41Going through a new divorce.
09:42Yeah.
09:43Trying to figure it out.
09:44Okay.
09:45This summer, he allowed people to live with him.
09:48She gives to Schaefer the names of Rob's former roommates.
09:51Did everything work out when they got moved out or was it like a bad move out?
09:55It wasn't that good.
09:57It wasn't that good?
09:57No.
09:58Okay.
10:01This is wild.
10:02No.
10:03I know it's a lot for everybody.
10:05Thank you, man.
10:15As word of Rob's murder continues to spread, he's my watchmaker.
10:20He fixed his watches for me.
10:23The manager of the jewelry store where he worked shows up on scene.
10:28He's my watchmaker.
10:29I talked to Rob last night.
10:31Around 6 o'clock.
10:33In the parking lot.
10:35He was hitting in the car in the street.
10:37She says, last night, a woman picked Rob up from work.
10:41I don't know her.
10:43I don't know her.
10:45What kind of car are they left in?
10:46I don't know.
10:47I don't know her.
10:50So he left last night from work where they're going.
10:55But that's last time she saw him.
10:59Then...
10:59You see that camera that's in the living room?
11:01Another possible break.
11:03Is it camera in the living room?
11:05Rob's neighbors remember that he has a security camera in his living room.
11:09Okay, let me go check that out.
11:11Give me one second.
11:17That ring camera was on during the whole incident and just recording things,
11:21which would tell us exactly what happened and who did it.
11:24That would be huge.
11:35The camera's on because he's getting ring notifications on his phone.
11:40So we have high hopes for that.
11:48We're hoping it's been on since this morning,
11:50which means that it just would have been activating whatever happened inside.
12:04My name is George Robert Vantine Jr.
12:08I've been with the North Charleston Police Department for 23 years.
12:12I spent just shy of five years in the person's unit working violent crime and homicides.
12:20I'm honored with working in cold cases now.
12:23The department set up this unit to help bring justice to the victims and the families
12:28where the case agent has moved on.
12:30They've either been transferred out or they retired and the case still isn't solved.
12:36Detective Schaefer has transferred back to the road.
12:38So we're going to continue looking into Lowell Drive and pick up where he left off.
12:44It looks like a report.
12:46When Schaefer left the crime scene that night, his head was spinning.
12:53Probably had half a dozen potential motives.
12:56It could be a burglary gone bad because there is a window partially opened.
13:03There's been indication that he is a ladies' man.
13:06He's in his underwear.
13:08So it could be something with the lover's quarrel.
13:11The ex-roommate may have been involved.
13:14There was some type of argument.
13:18And then there is a female that picked him up from work and was the last person to see him.
13:24Once Schaefer goes home, even the chef starts running with it.
13:28Trying to get into the victim's phone.
13:30Maybe there's some indication of who that female that picked him up from work may be.
13:44Seven hours in.
13:46Sam's got something.
13:48Digital forensics examiner Sam Riedel was downloading Rob's phone.
13:53Your phone is very...
13:55I understand.
13:56It's picking you up, right?
13:56Yeah.
13:58And found a text conversation between Rob and the woman who picked him up from work last night.
14:03Amanda, who picked him up?
14:05Get her in here, see what she knows.
14:18Two hours later...
14:20Thank you for coming in tonight.
14:23Amanda agrees to talk.
14:26So how did you hear about what happened to Robert?
14:28I actually was, uh, I looked on the news, and I saw the shooting, and I was like, oh,
14:35I sent my husband over there after he cut off work.
14:39Okay.
14:41All right, so you saw him yesterday, correct?
14:43Yeah.
14:43I picked him up from work yesterday.
14:45It was about 10 till 6, and we went to the Publix to get a sandwich.
14:51And then where did y'all go after Publix?
14:54Right here, here's what it's going to be.
14:57And once you guys were there, what happened?
15:00Uh, we smoked for a little bit, and we watched EOM TV raps, and we ate our sandwich, and we
15:08smoked
15:09some more.
15:10I don't know, like, why her husband would think it'd be cool if she goes to some other
15:14dude's house and smokes weed with him.
15:16Is he, like, jealous of their relationship?
15:18You know, it's weird.
15:22And I took off about 9.30.
15:24He walked me outside.
15:27We didn't spend too much time outside because it was cold.
15:31He said, I love you.
15:34The last that I heard from him was last night when I told him I'm home, and he responded
15:39to the little hard thing.
15:40And roughly how long is the drive?
15:41About an hour.
15:43Okay.
15:44And did he mention having any plans afterwards?
15:48No.
15:49I think he was going to go to bed.
15:51He had to work today.
15:53How did the two of you meet, and how long have you known him?
15:56Since April of 2016 in Northwood's Mall.
16:01She says she and Rob have been friends for eight years.
16:04We had a conversation about Prince, the singer, and we've just been friends ever since.
16:17Have you and Rob ever had, like, a sexual relationship?
16:22So it's just friends?
16:24Exactly.
16:24Okay.
16:26Is he, um, he's pretty cool with your husband?
16:28Oh, yeah.
16:29Absolutely.
16:36What was Rob wearing when you saw him last night?
16:40Um, I think it was a black long-sleeved shirt that he had on, jeans.
17:06And do you know what his relationship was like with the guy that used to live with him?
17:12No, but he was there for quite a while with his girlfriend.
17:16So what happened?
17:18I don't know.
17:19Honestly, Rob just referred to them as house guests, and I didn't ask too many questions.
17:25The only thing that Rob seemed to be stressed out about is his neighbor smelling the weed.
17:32And we did talk about that because he had his, uh, he propped his sliding glass door open a little
17:37bit.
17:38So it would air out.
17:40Do you know if Rob kept that door open after you left?
17:43Probably.
17:43It made me nervous because he didn't lock things, that being one of them.
17:48Mm-hmm.
17:50You tell me that this isn't true, right?
17:54I'm sorry for your loss.
17:59One more second.
18:07Does sound like her and the victim had a good friendship.
18:12She says that her husband was cool with it.
18:15Um, we do plan on following up with the husband.
18:18Just to make sure that there wasn't any type of jealousy on his end.
18:23Yeah.
18:30From glancing at this, Schaefer did talk to Amanda's husband.
18:34And it seemed like he was okay with his wife going over there.
18:39That he knew the victim and he didn't have any issues with him.
18:43He did not feel the husband was involved.
18:45So after the shift ended, they were no closer to a motive behind this.
18:51According to witnesses, Rob was a ladies' man.
18:55So Schaefer's plan was to track down the women he was seeing.
18:58And track down the couple that used to live with the victim.
19:02And he also wanted access to the footage on the phone.
19:07A ring camera that was inside the victim's home.
19:10That may have the possible suspect, which would have been huge.
19:26The next morning, Detective Parker Bush and Schaefer head out to try to find some of the women that Rob
19:33had been seeing.
19:35Could still be a chick.
19:36Sleeping around with different women.
19:38Some chick could not like it.
19:39Well, that and then one of their significant other finds out.
19:43Yeah.
19:43And shows up there at the door going, hey, can I talk to you?
19:47And things go south.
19:48Yep.
19:53Then, hey, sir, how are you?
19:56The team gets a tip.
19:59Said she did that to residence of Mr. Brown.
20:02From Robert Brown's female ex-roommate.
20:06She said, I believe my ex-boyfriend had been responsible.
20:10She says she suspects her ex-boyfriend, who was Rob's other ex-roommate, may be the killer.
20:19Okay.
20:21All right.
20:21Well, I appreciate it.
20:22All right.
20:23Take it easy.
20:28This ain't a boyfriend, didn't it?
20:39Let's see what this chick has to say.
20:50Hey, who are you?
20:52What happened?
20:54I was introduced to Rob in July of this year.
20:57Me and my boyfriend were homeless together and we stayed at his apartment.
21:01We knew each other from being rappers.
21:03Okay.
21:04Um, while we were there.
21:07She says while they were living with Rob, she and her boyfriend weren't getting along.
21:12How did it end with y'all and Rob and staying at his apartment?
21:19Rob texted me and said, hey, y'all, journey will be back.
21:23Rob asked them to leave because his daughter was coming back to live with him.
21:27I left him.
21:28And shortly after they moved out, she and her boyfriend broke up.
21:33What makes you think he was going to be the one involved?
21:35Was there bad things between him and Rob when they were living there?
21:37We were homeless.
21:39At the point that I left him, he had nowhere else to go.
21:41So I'm assuming he did go to Rob's house at some point.
21:45I can't confirm that.
21:47Okay.
21:49My woman's intuition is telling me if he didn't do this, he knows who did.
21:53Right, right.
21:54Okay.
21:55What my intuition is telling me.
21:57Okay.
21:58He's been contacting me off of crazy different numbers.
22:02The first number was 472.
22:09Okay.
22:10We're going to continue investigating and go from there.
22:13We have to go based off where the evidence takes us.
22:15I know you said your intuition, but...
22:16I know.
22:17I know.
22:18Yeah.
22:21Rob did not deserve that.
22:22He was a sweet guy.
22:24He did not deserve that.
22:25No, 100%.
22:28Thank you for your time, ma'am.
22:29No problem.
22:39It was basically a woman's intuition that the ex-roommate may have been involved.
22:44But Detective Schaefer did a search warrant on the ex-roommate's phone.
22:50And during the time frame of the murder, that person's device was in Florence, South Carolina.
22:57And I believe Schaefer spoke to that person on the phone.
22:59He was very cooperative.
23:01So I think he ruled him out.
23:06Detective Schaefer, in his notes and what he told me, seems like everyone he talked to, whether it be girlfriends,
23:12anybody, spoke very highly of the victim.
23:15And he got the sense that no one in the victim's social circle wanted to harm the victim.
23:22And everyone was baffled as to who would do this.
23:28Schaefer hit a dead end.
23:30And so they had the Hail Mary of the ring camera that was inside the victim's home.
23:35That would potentially give us some glimpse of who did it.
23:47As the first 48 slips away...
23:50Camera covers the living room.
23:53Schaefer gets an update on the security camera in Rob's living room.
23:57But the ring camera that was in there, the plan is unactive.
24:03Which means it'll give you notifications and alerts, but it doesn't record any of it.
24:08It's live view only.
24:12So there's no video of the actual shooting?
24:14Nope.
24:16Oh.
24:17Can't get frickin' lucky on none of it.
24:19Hmm.
24:20Back square one on that.
24:22Felt too good to be true.
24:26So, yeah, things are going well.
24:27Everything's coming together nicely.
24:29And I mean that with the most sarcastic possible.
24:45Six days later...
24:47Number one, I'm so sorry.
24:49This is the worst way to meet someone, like I said, in such a situation.
24:53Schaefer speaks to Rob's mother.
24:55He didn't deserve what he got because the type of person that he was.
25:01Before I leave South Carolina, I need to go home with some kind of closure.
25:07Yes.
25:07I just leave it my child.
25:09I want to help and tell you as much as I can, but it is ongoing, so there's a lot
25:13I can't tell you right now.
25:15What I can tell you is this.
25:16There's two possibilities.
25:17It was either a random burglary gone wrong, or it was someone he knew.
25:22Are you aware that he had been broken in before?
25:27When was that?
25:29Maybe like a couple weeks ago.
25:32Do you know the exact date?
25:33I know.
25:34Okay.
25:36Hello.
25:37How are you?
25:39I'm just a two-time host.
25:40The team turns to Rob's ex-wife and daughter.
25:45What's your name?
25:46And what's your name?
25:47Are you?
25:48And your family.
25:49Mm-hmm.
25:50Did your dad ever mention that his house got broken into previously?
25:55Mm-hmm.
25:57So tell me about that.
25:59He told me someone who took his pocket money, because he could keep like $50 in his pocket, and he
26:05said it like on the TV stand.
26:08Okay.
26:09And did he tell you how he thought the person was able to get inside?
26:14Then how he drove them off.
26:27Gotcha.
26:28Like what time of day did it happen?
26:31When did he just leave?
26:33So night time?
26:34Yeah, like close to like three or four.
26:51He did get his stuff broken into a couple weeks ago.
26:56And then I don't really see...
26:59There's no calls for service over there.
27:01So if he did, he never reported it to us.
27:04That's interesting.
27:05We'll have to chase that down, too.
27:07They're just going to keep talking to more and more people.
27:10We're hoping to get a bunch of video from the surrounding streets and surrounding areas.
27:15Hoping that somebody's camera somewhere caught someone running from the scene that we could track,
27:20or someone jumping in a car right afterwards.
27:22Yeah.
27:23We just need to get something.
27:35Four days later...
27:37That food line has left the parking lot.
27:39The team watches surveillance video from the grocery store next to Rob's apartment complex.
27:46The victim's building is right here.
27:48Okay.
27:49And right there is like right by where the window's at.
27:52We need like some video of somebody running from the scene or some...
27:56Otherwise, it's like a hate line special.
28:01So far, not a lot of luck.
28:06Then...
28:07Oh, my God.
28:09Where the green thing is at.
28:11A thermal image of somebody coming around from the backside of the victim's building at 4.15 in the morning,
28:17right before the shooting.
28:19We think the murder time is around, like, 5 a.m., but this is about 55 minutes before that.
28:25This figure is just wandering around.
28:31Very suspicious to me, because he's not going into an apartment.
28:34He's not walking a dog.
28:38He's just wandering around behind buildings in the middle of the night.
28:41I think the temperature that night was, like, 40 degrees or less, so it was cold as hell out, and
28:47you're wandering around at 4 o'clock in the morning.
28:50So my curiosity is, why are you doing that?
28:55They're looking to break into somewhere.
28:58That's what I was kind of getting a feel for.
29:00Like, are they looking for open windows and...
29:02The homicide, he did have his window left open.
29:05And his mother said that he did get broken into a couple weeks ago.
29:12Uh, let's see where he goes after that.
29:20Then I don't see him again.
29:29And then this video we're getting is from right about here.
29:34Schaefer pulls up doorbell footage they got from a neighbor down the street from Rob's apartment.
29:40This is at 5.12 a.m., minutes after we believe the homicide occurred, of an individual walking down the
29:47street.
29:53Lowell Drive, which is where the homicide occurred.
29:57This could potentially be the same person, from the video, walking behind the apartment building.
30:03This guy is a potential suspect.
30:08I wish we had a post-mortem shoot-up at him.
30:11But he's our best lead so far, as you could say.
30:18It's possible that it was a burglar gone wrong.
30:21Just laying down someone was trying to break in.
30:30Three weeks later...
30:32Hey, Kaysen!
30:33Yes, sir.
30:34Detectives Kaysen Alex and Carlos Ochoaia are working a case that they believe could be connected to Rob's.
30:43So, I have a rash of burglaries in the Forest Hills area.
30:47And that's the same area where the homicide was.
30:50The most recent burglary occurred around 10 o'clock last night.
30:55He went into the window of their house while everybody was in the top of the house and just stole
30:59all their stuff.
31:01The M.O. was exact the same for this kid.
31:03I dealt with him before, where he likes to break into people's houses while people are home.
31:08Alex realized the M.O. of last night's robbery matched that of a juvenile burglar that he arrested three months
31:14ago.
31:15He's a 15-year-old.
31:17I'm locked doors and windows.
31:19That's where he goes to.
31:20The case I arrested him for back in September.
31:23He broke into the house.
31:24One of the roommates came home, confronted him, and he pulled a gun out on them.
31:28When me and other detectives wanted to go pick him up, he tried to pull a gun out on us.
31:32But we were able to stop him before he was able to do it.
31:34Charges against the juvenile for the burglary three months ago were dismissed.
31:39So he may be connected into the homicide because the M.O. is just the same.
31:51The juvenile suspect was definitely on the tree at the time Rob's murder happened.
32:00So did she see the guy who broke in?
32:02No.
32:03The victim of last night's burglary was in her bedroom when it happened.
32:29The burglary victim recognized one of the suspects in the video from the neighborhood.
32:34He's the same juvenile that Detective Alex arrested for the previous burglary.
32:40So we think this may be our suspect from the homicide.
32:44It's possible.
32:46The fact that he was willing to pull a gun out on three officers in uniform,
32:50the fact that he actually did pull a gun out on my other victim and threaten her,
32:55I feel like he could escalate that point.
32:58Especially if he's inside somebody's house breaking in there and they catch him,
33:01I wouldn't be surprised if he would do something like that.
33:06Unfortunately, we don't have enough for a restaurant for this burglary.
33:13So the goal right now is to work on building the burglary case for those two.
33:17We're going to follow up with the victim.
33:18We're going to go out to her house.
33:19We'll start going around the neighborhood canvassing for video.
33:22And then when we can get enough to charge them with the burglary,
33:25we can pick them up.
33:26And while they're up here, talk to them about the homicide.
33:33Detective Schaefer, in his notes and what he told me,
33:36he wasn't able to develop enough probable cause or enough evidence
33:41for that one particular burglary to charge him.
33:45And then Schaefer was beginning the process of being promoted out of the unit.
33:50Six months after Schaefer left the unit...
33:53The property detectives, Detective Kaysen,
33:57ended up charging that juvenile suspect with yet another burglary.
34:04When Detective Kaysen went to apprehend that juvenile suspect,
34:09he had a backpack.
34:11Just like the suspect that is on camera walking back
34:14towards his residence minutes after the homicide.
34:19So that is a strong person of interest.
34:23So we needed to somehow find some way to convince him
34:27to come to City Hall, to put him in a room,
34:29then interview him.
34:42Thirteen months after Rob's murder.
34:45That juvenile suspect just came in today
34:47to pick up some items from another case.
34:50So a phone, his backpack.
34:53So I'm going to try to interview him and see what he says.
34:55See if we can get him to admit to this.
34:59Hey, how's it going?
35:00I'm Detective Vantine.
35:03So you're looking to get some items back.
35:04You're talking about, like, a backpack.
35:06You're talking about a phone.
35:07It's an iPhone 14.
35:09Okay, Apple iPhone was seized.
35:12And then you said you're...
35:13It's a black backpack.
35:15I got you.
35:16Do you always...
35:16How long you had that backpack for?
35:18Uh, like, about a year until.
35:22We had some burglaries in the area.
35:24And I'm wondering if, um...
35:26Hey, I'll show you a picture if you ever hit this place or remember it.
35:35I know where he's at.
35:37Yeah.
35:39December 3rd, early in the morning, 2024.
35:42This place was broken into.
35:47This window's open.
35:48This was shattered.
35:57The thing is, I think you do...
36:01You would go into, like, different places, right?
36:04And so I'm asking about this particular one.
36:07Get it off your chest.
36:08What happened?
36:10I'm being so honest.
36:11I don't have no idea about this.
36:14Let me ask you this.
36:15When you did these break-ins, did you have someone with you?
36:19Yeah.
36:19I always have my friends.
36:21What?
36:21We don't steal.
36:22We don't steal.
36:23What do you do?
36:23We just go in and chill.
36:25How do you get in, usually, though?
36:26From the bed or the window.
36:29You always go through, like, a window?
36:32Yeah, but you have me in lock or something like that.
36:36This window's open.
36:38You ever go through this window and chill?
36:54Have you ever gone to a place where somebody lives?
36:56No.
36:56While they're in there?
36:57No.
36:59While they're in there?
36:59That's dumb.
37:00You love the union?
37:02Yeah.
37:03Well, not knowing they're in there.
37:04No.
37:05I'm not that slow nor stupid.
37:08When you go into chill in these houses, you usually have a weapon on you?
37:11No.
37:11I don't carry weapons.
37:13I don't have...
37:14You were arrested with guns in the past?
37:16No.
37:17I thought it was only because I'm fronding, and I just started to use it for protection.
37:21Right.
37:22I was just doing it for the funny thing, for the looks.
37:24I wasn't doing no oldie.
37:26Put my right hand on the barber right now.
37:28I'm on my...
37:29I'm on my...
37:30I don't know nothing about that shit.
37:33I just came here to get my stuff.
37:36The phone?
37:37Do you know the passcode to that phone?
37:39Yeah.
37:40I think it's...
37:41He gives Vantine the passcode.
37:43I'm going to be honest with you.
37:45I won't be able to release it today, that's for sure.
37:47I just came here to get my stuff, and I didn't even get my stuff.
37:50And I don't like...
37:51Well, I got you.
37:52I feel you.
37:53All right, so can I go, bitch?
37:55Yeah, you're good.
38:05Just denying, denying.
38:07He mentioned that he did usually go through the windows, and this is entry through a window
38:11unsecured.
38:13But I just don't have enough to say.
38:15I don't have any DNA putting him there.
38:17I don't have any video putting him there.
38:19I got the passcode to his phone so we can do the phone dump.
38:23So maybe there's something in the text message that will either rule him out or rule him in.
38:32The burglary suspect that we just interviewed, we didn't dump his phone.
38:36Unfortunately, there's nothing to prove that he committed this crime, but he is still a strong person of interest.
38:44As far as the community, maybe somebody knows something and he confided in somebody.
38:49Maybe someone has some crucial information that will help solve it.
38:53I know this suspect commits burglaries with other juveniles.
38:57Maybe they will cooperate.
39:00And they'll be able to come forward.
39:02I think the thing is trying to never give it up and just hoping that something will break.
39:17Unsolved cases are never close.
39:23I'm going to do everything in my power to figure out who did this.
39:27Rob's life was taken.
39:30And so I feel it's important to let the family know we are still actively trying to solve it.
39:37I remember him.
39:38He was a nice guy to me.
39:40Yeah.
39:40If it's been over a year or two years or three or ten or whatever the case is, we're never
39:47going to give up hope.
39:48We're never going to stop trying.
39:49I'm never going to quit on it.
39:51Never.
39:52Never.
40:01He made people laugh just by stepping in the room.
40:05He was just that silly.
40:09Just proud of him, you know.
40:11Never had nothing bad to say about my nephew.
40:14I just can't wrap my mind around why somebody did that to me.
40:20Whoever did it, they took something away from me that could never be replaced.
40:26They took a daddy away from his kids.
40:30It's been a struggle.
40:38With Kingston, he doesn't understand.
40:42So he asks for him, and I can't really explain why he's not there.
40:50With Journey, it's a different type of difficulty because she knows.
40:54She's angry and upset because somebody took something so valuable away from her, from all of us.
41:04And I want to be able to look at the person in their eyes and ask them, why?
41:16Father God, we gather today in honor of Robert, hoping that this will bring justice.
41:25Somebody knows exactly what happened, and I pray that their conscience will allow them to tell somebody so that we'll
41:34know who did it and why.
41:36Put yourself in our shoes.
41:38What if it was your family member, and you know somebody know?
41:42So wouldn't you want them to say it?
41:45It will help a lot.
41:47Please and thank you, whoever you are.
41:49I know you know something.
41:54In love and memories, Robert Linares Brown III.
42:02Justice for Rob Cobain.
42:05Say it loud.
42:07Justice for Rob Cobain.
42:10Justice for Rob Cobain.
42:20I feel the first pain.
42:24My little heart is dead.
42:26Heartbroken.
42:27Heartbroken.
42:28I'm heartbroken.
42:30Heartbroken.
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