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Formula 1: Drive to Survive - Season 8 - Episode 04: A Bull with No Horns
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00:11I've got a lot of under-sip.
00:16Liam Lawson's out of the Grand Prix.
00:18Sorry, guys.
00:20I just need more time.
00:24Liam Lawson takes that 12th place.
00:28Oh, my God, man.
00:30This is bad news for Red Bull.
00:33In this business, to succeed, sometimes you've got to take action.
00:39Liam Lawson has been fired from Red Bull and demoted back to junior team Racing Bulls.
00:44Are you kidding me? Two racers!
00:47I don't see how it's anything other than a huge embarrassment for Red Bull.
00:56Um, right. Shall we do this shirt change?
01:01No, it's all right, mate. It's all right.
01:07It's a total farce.
01:10Two races.
01:13I've never seen anything like it in Formula One.
01:16The pressure is just ramped on that team.
01:20I mean, everybody's got an opinion.
01:22But do we listen?
01:24No.
01:28The wheels are coming off at Red Bull.
01:32Can Christian turn it around?
01:34Or is he out of time?
01:53OK, so hello is...
01:54Konichiwa.
01:55You've got to do that, because that's what people love.
01:56When you warm them up, you're like,
01:58Konichiwa.
01:58And then, and then,
02:00Konichiwa, like that.
02:01Give it the big in.
02:26Konichiwa.
02:28Konichiwa.
02:30Konichiwa.
02:33Konichiwa.
02:34Konichiwa.
02:37Konichiwa.
02:38Konichiwa.
02:40Hey.
02:41Hello.
02:41How are you?
02:42Good.
02:43You?
02:43Very good.
02:44How's the storm?
02:45Yeah, so far, OK.
02:47I don't mean the wind.
02:48Yeah.
02:55Hello.
02:56I'm OK.
02:58Let's go straight.
02:59OK.
03:01Maybe they feel like I wasn't ready for it.
03:04And obviously, you know, they made the decision,
03:05and that's obviously their opinion.
03:08From my side, I was ready.
03:10I just didn't have enough time.
03:13I was pretty disappointed for it to all be sort of decided in two races.
03:17Didn't feel right.
03:19Have you spoken to Max about the decision?
03:25Be honest.
03:28He didn't agree with it.
03:31He didn't agree with it.
03:32But at the end of the day, it wasn't up to him.
03:36Hello.
03:37Hello.
03:37How's it going?
03:39How are you?
03:40How are you?
03:40How's it going?
03:41How are you?
03:42Yeah, obviously telling any driver that there's going to be a change
03:45and you take him out of the seat is always going to be difficult
03:48and not the news that they want to hear.
03:49Three, two, one, action.
03:53OK, great.
03:54And we'll get another one of those with the smile.
03:56This isn't a popularity contest.
03:59It's Formula One.
04:00But you can argue it was a hugely popular decision in Japan.
04:08Because within the pool of drivers that we have,
04:14there is an obvious candidate.
04:21Nice shirt.
04:23Your shirt and your team, yeah.
04:28This material, I think, makes me quite bigger.
04:35Rookie Tsunoda on a flying lap.
04:38Yuki Tsunoda is fast.
04:42Another good overtake from Yuki Tsunoda.
04:44That was absolutely brilliant.
04:48He's also one of the most wild.
04:51Let's fucking go, man.
04:53He's got a sense of humour that is on the edge sometimes.
04:57Oh, no!
04:59Oh, mate, you're so nice.
05:00Thank you, thank you.
05:01Thank you very, very much.
05:02Really.
05:03Appreciate it.
05:03Are you going to bring it up to me as well?
05:04Yeah, thanks, thanks.
05:07Nice!
05:11Hi.
05:11Yuki, you have to pick a horse for the speaker steak.
05:14A big race in England this afternoon.
05:15Like this.
05:16You have to pick a horse and then it's a speaker steak.
05:19Grand National Maze.
05:21What have you got?
05:23Oh, it's 23-1.
05:26I'll tell you what.
05:27If you pull up on the top ten today, you can ride one of my horses.
05:30OK, I've got you.
05:34Who is it?
05:35Monbeg Genius.
05:37Monbeg Genius.
05:37Yeah, it's not bad.
05:39Good luck.
05:39OK, Yuki, 17.
05:46Fair deal. Cheeky.
05:48Woo!
05:52Switching to Red Bull as a home Grand Prix, it's a dream come true.
05:57And you are special.
05:58You're a special guy.
05:59You keep telling me that.
06:01Especially after four years in the V-carve.
06:08I'm sure that how the people look at me now is a bit different.
06:12Did you text Liam after you got the news or speak to him?
06:16No.
06:22Yeah, yeah, yeah.
06:22His arse?
06:23Yeah, it's so big.
06:24It's so funny.
06:25You like my arse?
06:28Especially with these balls.
06:31Hey, I've got a bigger balls, I guess.
06:35I don't know about that one, but...
06:40Yeah.
06:42Here he is.
06:43Konnichiwa.
06:45How are you?
06:46You all right?
06:46Yeah.
06:47How are things?
06:48Yeah, not bad.
06:49I'll probably have to throw the helmet on the BBC and say,
06:52Max isn't happy.
06:54Max isn't happy.
06:54He's not happy with...
06:56You know, he's probably...
06:57I don't know what he meant by that.
06:59It's...
07:00I think there's a lot of negativity around Max is unhappy.
07:04Max isn't...
07:06Like any racing driver, they're always grumpy when they're not winning.
07:14Red Bull lost the Constructors' Championship in 2024.
07:19That is the most important championship.
07:22That's where the prize fund money comes from that keeps that team on the race track.
07:28They lost because they only had one car scoring points.
07:33Christian needs someone in that second seat alongside Max Verstappen that can score points consistently.
07:40Or senior figures at Red Bull won't be happy.
07:45Christian is answerable to a board in Austria.
07:49And that's run by Oliver Mintzlab.
07:51With Helmut Marko as his advisor.
08:01I guess the other question is, what happens if it doesn't work with Yuki?
08:05Look, I've got a feeling that Yuki will...
08:07I think he...
08:07He'll do all right.
08:09He'll do all right.
08:10He seems to be.
08:22Yuki!
08:25Yuki!
08:26Yuki!
08:27Yuki!
08:27Yuki!
08:28Yuki!
08:29Yuki!
08:29Yuki!
08:29Yuki!
08:29Yuki!
08:30Yuki!
08:30Yuki!
08:31Yeah, you know what to do.
08:38First race in a Rebel racing in front of the Japanese fans.
08:44They are very, very passionate.
08:49there's an expectation from the team to score points obviously hard pressure that i have to prove
08:55that okay smile you're on that block yuki's got to showcase he's the right caliber to be alongside
09:14max this year all right let's see what we've got
09:21max verstappen starting on pole with the fastest ever lap we've seen here radio check louder
09:30yuki sunoda starts 14th pressure on yuki to finish in the top 10 and score points in that second red
09:37oh
09:48yuki release was good
09:53it's good pace max keep it up nor is behind
09:58london just keep putting max under pressure
10:08okay
10:08go ahead for now dude let's get
10:16watch our snow down okay
10:24yeah we are too slow on this train friend way too slow
10:30okay we can push everything you've got here
10:58i feel like the grip felt quite poor
11:13It's not gone well for Yuki Tsunoda, failing to make an impact on his debut for Red Bull.
11:19Can Verstappen hold on to first place?
11:26Max, Norris behind.
11:27He's picked up his pace a little bit.
11:31Lennon, this is the last lap.
11:34Opportunity.
11:35Yeah, I think so.
11:49Yeah, I can't get any closer.
11:53Max Verstappen wins the Japanese Grand Prix.
12:01Max Verstappen wins the Japanese Grand Prix.
12:03Thank you guys!
12:04Wow!
12:05Oh mate, what an unbelievable weekend!
12:09Yuki.
12:10Oh mate, I'm afraid that's P12.
12:12P12.
12:14That was a tough day today.
12:17Sorry guys.
12:19Yeah, I think the pace was there but...
12:22Okay, so finishing order.
12:23Max, P1.
12:25Yeah, congrats.
12:26Congrats guys.
12:28Sorry, couldn't get a point for your home race.
12:42Not now.
12:45Yeah, not a great race.
12:52It's not the result I wanted.
12:54At least I wanted to finish in the points this weekend.
12:57So, yeah.
12:58It's a home Grand Prix, you know.
13:00It's once in a year.
13:01So, considering that, it's a bit...
13:04It's tough.
13:06There'll be a panic at Red Bull over that second seat.
13:10You know, was it the right decision in getting rid of Liam?
13:14The only Max seems capable of scoring points.
13:18That's gonna get the board worried.
13:31Hey Max, how are you?
13:32Well done for Suzuka.
13:34Amazing weekend.
13:35Do you still feel that with the second guard,
13:38you are able to defend the title?
13:41No.
13:41No, no.
13:42We definitely need to improve to be able to fight for a title.
13:46Where do you think the car is gonna be in terms of drivability here at this track?
13:51So far this year, the car has not been our strongest point, to be honest.
13:57But it's not just that second seat.
13:59That's a problem.
14:03Here's Max Verstappen.
14:07I have no power in my pedal.
14:11I'm not even brake anymore.
14:12It's just ridiculous.
14:15Our car is proving to be a bit of a diva at the moment.
14:18There is definitely potential in the car, but to extract it is... is tough.
14:24Oh dear, big lock-up.
14:26Lap wrecked.
14:28I have no power in my pedal.
14:31When you've got a driver like Max Verstappen,
14:33that's the only person really scoring points for the team,
14:36there's pressure to say,
14:38come on, we've got to give him a car that's...
14:40that's capable of doing that.
14:44I don't care, Max.
14:45Peace.
14:50Oh my God, I'm a zip dog.
14:52Jesus.
14:53Max, that was a tough afternoon in the office,
14:55so you have plenty to go away and look out.
14:57Ah, yeah.
15:04How big is your concern
15:06that he takes care of his future?
15:09Also that he stays with the Red Bull team?
15:13It's big.
15:15And as I've already said,
15:17it has to be in the near future.
15:19It has to be better.
15:21It has to be better.
15:22It has to be better.
15:23It has to be better.
15:24It has to be better.
15:27Helmut is now doing interviews.
15:29Oh really?
15:29Yeah.
15:30And it's like two or three,
15:31like, off-the-cuff remarks.
15:35Helmut, he's a cunning old fox.
15:39He will use the media to assert pressure.
15:44Sometimes it's very unhelpful.
15:51It has to be better.
15:52This week, Helmut Marko says he fears your Red Bull exit.
15:55Why is he saying that?
15:57I don't know.
15:59So you're not thinking of leaving Red Bull at any time?
16:02No, I think just focus on commentating.
16:05I'll focus on driving.
16:07And then, you know,
16:08you don't need to think about any other scenarios.
16:11We just worry about you.
16:14The thing is,
16:16he cannot answer the question about why is Marko saying what he's saying,
16:19because it gives the game away.
16:22He can't answer any of the questions about his future.
16:25The fact that he can't answer it.
16:27Smile.
16:29It's true.
16:32It's useless.
16:33It's got an exit clause.
16:35There's a lot of chat about Max having an exit clause.
16:38Is that true?
16:41I think there are certain criteria within his agreement that there's certain benchmarks that we have to achieve.
16:47That will be what, you know, dictates the outcome of whether he stays or not.
16:52So it's really crucial to turn things around.
16:58I don't want to let McLaren beat us in either championship.
17:01So...
17:02That would be a big disappointment.
17:06But it's much worse than anybody had expected.
17:10The relationship between Christian and Jos Verstappen, Max's father and essentially his manager, is terrible.
17:18Let's just say they don't see eye to eye.
17:20And they haven't for some time.
17:24The Verstappens holds a lot of power within the corridors of Red Bull Racing.
17:30If he determines that things aren't going in the direction that benefits his son,
17:35then he'll move to extricate him.
17:38That's gonna get the board shaking.
17:46Do you think Christian's worried about the rumours?
17:49I don't think Max was built to finish the sixth last race.
17:53I know he's got an exit clause in his contract, so I would imagine he would jump if he can.
18:01Red Bull doesn't seem to be a very happy place at the moment.
18:05Everyone seems to have their knives out for each other inside that racing team.
18:11But it comes off so arrogant.
18:12I'm sure he sees that as no big deal.
18:14But when you put them all together and you look at how they're doing,
18:17looks like a big deal to me.
18:25Max Norris behind.
18:27No, it's still through to drive.
18:30I've got the holders much longer.
18:36Each and every race that goes by, there is pressure from every angle.
18:44Lando Norris has squeezed ahead of Max Verstappen.
18:48What the fuck?
18:50I think he's still there. Two laps to go.
18:53The pace is incredibly slow.
18:55Just ridiculous.
18:58Max Verstappen has to settle for fourth place.
19:02Hard like today, Max. We just weren't quick enough.
19:06What, finish?
19:078-10.
19:09And once again, it is McLaren in Miami.
19:14The walls are closing in on Christian Horner.
19:19Red Bull are potentially falling here.
19:29Good job, Geeky. Keep on going.
19:34Keep up the pace.
19:43The End
20:03You're all right, Yuki?
20:09Yuki?
20:15You're all right.
20:45Yuki?
20:46Yuki?
21:02If you've never been to the Austrian Grand Prix, this will come as a surprise.
21:05But you cannot order a Coke within, like, a five-mile radius of the track.
21:13The only thing they have on the menu is a Red Bull coma.
21:17It's Red Bull country. It's wild.
21:22Undoubtedly, it's the most important race of the season for Red Bull.
21:29Christian needs a headline result.
21:35And it's the most important race of the Red Bull.
21:35Ostert is the home race of Red Bull.
21:38You've got all the shareholders there.
21:41There's always that added pressure.
21:47There's always noise in Formula One, and, you know, we're at a point of the year
21:51where there are, you know, there are performance clauses in contracts
21:56that inevitably, you know, people become aware of,
22:01and they get used and played, and some of it, I'm sure, is done to unsettle.
22:05...
22:13Earlier this year, Toto, you said you were not going to flirt with the idea of Signing Max,
22:17so has something changed in the last few months,
22:19either from your side or Red Bull's side?
22:24Define flirting.
22:28Have you been in contact with Max's team?
22:31Yes.
22:32What can you tell us about that contact?
22:33Certainly when a four-time world champion appears to be free,
22:38then that is a conversation I need to have.
22:39Is there any chance Max could be at Mercedes next year?
22:42There's always a chance.
22:46A question to Max.
22:48Are you going to be driving for Red Bull Racing next year?
22:51Yeah, I don't think we need to talk about that.
23:00Thank you. All right, next.
23:03You know you're not going to get a long answer from Max, so...
23:09Why is Toto deliberately putting into the ether
23:14that he's interested in Max Verstappen?
23:19He can see the cracks, and he can see that Christian's on shaky ground.
23:23So, you know what? Ramp the pressure up.
23:39Carmen and I have been playing around with making skin care products.
23:43Pretty good. The first batch smelt like semen.
23:46This is the second batch, which is slightly better, so...
23:50It's much improved.
23:52I'm not selling the product very well here whatsoever.
23:56HE LAUGHS
23:57So there's a lot of noise in the media.
23:59A lot of noise.
24:02I think they've just been waiting to sort of see where the land falls with Max.
24:08But Verstappen's going to have a lot of power in that team.
24:13They like to manipulate situations quite a lot.
24:16Like, for whatever reason, they don't like Horner,
24:19and they're trying to get Horner out.
24:21And I sort of just wonder if all of this is a bit of a play and a stir.
24:28So, trying to put pressure on Red Bull,
24:31that he'll only continue with Red Bull if Christian's gone.
24:54When the pressure cooker of Formula One
24:58just almost feels like it's reaching a boiling point.
25:05It's a very lonely place to be.
25:09I built this team.
25:10I've been there since the beginning.
25:12What you see is what you get with me.
25:15And that maybe doesn't sit comfortably with others,
25:18and particularly in this paddock,
25:19because I think others know that they can't manipulate me.
25:25We've won 14 World Championships,
25:28over 100 pole positions.
25:29I won't roll over.
25:35After a disastrous qualifying for Red Bull,
25:37Max Verstappen starts in P7.
25:41Yuki Tsunoda at the back of the grid in 18th.
25:44Ten seconds.
25:46Copy.
25:46He's right.
25:49What?
26:01What are you telling me this game?
26:03I was almost, I say...
26:06We didn't know this game.
26:07I was of course...
26:07I think you were unos...
26:07What, Chase?
26:09Not me?
26:10No.
26:12No.
26:16I said no.
26:28Oh, for fuck's sake.
26:38Fucking idiots.
26:40Okay, Max, please switch the car off before you get out.
26:44Sorry about that.
26:59Yuki Tsunoda continues in that second Red Bull.
27:02He is Red Bull's only hope for points here.
27:13Yep, copy.
27:14Head down.
27:15Let's go good.
27:39Okay, Yuki.
27:40For info, we've been given a ten-second penalty for the collision with Colopinto.
27:48Lando Norris wins the Austrian Grand Prix what about water yeah what did everyone
27:56best finish of the season for Liam Lawson yes me six yeah coffee man water what a weekend
28:10Yuki Tsunoda 16th and last compounding a really terrible day for Red Bull
28:17well I'm sorry yeah no I need to remember
28:24what a day
28:38I don't I think he's totally lost totally and utterly lost
29:02the difference in points now with Max Russell has scored 10 so it's nine points
29:12I can't remember a race so disappointing
29:19perfect for Togto though yeah I'm a little bit worried yeah
29:31can you just talk to us about how you remedy this second seat struggles and how you make
29:35sure that second driver is up there so that you are able to capitalize on something when
29:39Max Sapin is right behind us now has an unfortunate day like today
29:45so obviously Austria didn't go so well yeah
30:07after the Austrian Grand Prix we turned up at Silverstone and Max qualified on pole but ended up fishing fifth
30:2124 hours later
30:2224 hours later
30:25I was contacted to attend a meeting in London
30:35that was where they informed me that operationally I was no longer
30:40from that moment onwards involved in the running of
30:43the Red Bull Formula 1 team we have learned that Christian Horner has been sacked by Red Bull
30:50he is to leave them with immediate effect
31:03hey darling
31:10all all done and dusted
31:20thank you very much
31:28yeah anyway
31:30onwards and upwards
31:34I feel a real sense of loss and hurt
31:37it was all rather sudden
31:39I didn't really get a chance to say a proper goodbye
31:43how do you feel how do you feel how do I feel um I never imagined to be in this
31:49position that's called
31:52of course your immediate reaction when you get delivered a shit sandwich like that is I fuck them
31:59I've had something taken away from me that wasn't my choice that that was very precious to me but you
32:06thought it was going to happen we came back from that Austria race I remember you sat on the bed
32:10all night I went
32:12something really bad's gonna happen
32:14to dig and fire yeah yeah you haven't got any of the data here really well normally I'd have a
32:28whole bunch of noise in my ears so it's like you're blind
32:32double spot in the top ten that's so costly
32:35I feel a bit slight
32:38I feel a bit sad
32:43I only ever gave my best
32:45I did my best for my team for the people that I represented
32:49but performance this year hasn't been as strong as previously
32:54was it anything to do with the Verstappen's?
32:57his father has never been my biggest fan you know he's been outspoken you know about me
33:03but I don't believe that the Verstappen's were responsible in any way
33:08I think this was a decision that was made by Oliver Minslaff you know with Helmut um advising from the
33:16from the sideline
33:20I I think ultimately you have things changed within the business within the group you know the founder died
33:28and you know after Dietrich's death
33:31Yeah, I think probably I was deemed to you know to have maybe maybe too much control
33:39Was it your decision to swap Liam with Yuki?
33:43It wasn't my choice I
33:46I was always pushed to take drivers from the young driver program
33:53Helmut
33:54was a big driver in it
33:56Are you going to eat your feelings?
33:58No, but that one is really good
34:01The reality is that
34:03for me over the last 20 years
34:05on the good days
34:07and the bad days
34:09it's been an epic journey
34:11He's just doing that
34:15You won't stop me
34:19He's such a twat
34:23Red Bull have done it
34:25for their first ever Formula One win
34:27Great job, Sebastian
34:30There's a happy man
34:31Christian Horner
34:34It's the end of an era
34:36You think about Red Bull, you think about Christian
34:43Every podium they've stood on
34:47Every driver they've signed
34:52Every driver they was let go
34:56Christian was behind it all
34:58Hello, Richard
34:59Welcome to Red Bull
35:01Love the guy
35:02Don't worry, I'll squeeze Toto's bollocks
35:04Or hate the guy
35:05You've got a problem
35:07Change your fucking car
35:09I could have him in a fight
35:11You cannot deny
35:14the level of success that he achieved at that team
35:17You are the world champion
35:19The world champion
35:26We've achieved heights that others could only dream about
35:31There's been a rivalry
35:32There's been a competitiveness
35:35I enjoyed every minute of that
35:37What you heard from Toto
35:39He said, uh
35:41I didn't know what to say
35:43He said, because on one side
35:45you've been a real arsehole
35:46But on the other hand
35:47the sport will miss
35:48one of its main protagonists
35:50Who should I fight?
35:51And love to hate
35:52as you always said
35:54Wolf and Horner have a combined
35:5714 of the last 15 world championships
36:01Not a bad joint statistic
36:03And I responded to him
36:05I've loved locking horns with you
36:07all these years
36:08So thank you for the rivalry
36:10the competition, the needle
36:11No one else even came close
36:13As the statistics point out
36:15and I wish you the very best
36:16for the future
36:19P.S. you need a haircut
36:25I think we're done
36:26for now
36:28Okay
36:28Very good
36:34When you get beaten by a teammate
36:37almost every race
36:38It's very frustrating
36:40Stupid
36:41What the fuck want that?
36:45The brakes are fired
36:46Pretty cold
36:49Las Vegas is unbelievably special
36:52You want to put on a good show
36:53I don't have my pass
36:57They're under investigation
37:01I think they might be in trouble
37:03This is going to be a shit show
37:04isn't it?
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37:29ton Let's just
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37:30You need a cap
37:31You need a cap
37:333 how people feel
37:33You need
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37:34Marin How's your life
37:34only have enough I
37:34I'm not
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