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Formula 1 Drive to Survive - Season 8 (HDR) - Episode 04: A Bull with No Horns

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00:06I've got a lot of under-sip.
00:11Liam Lawson's out of the Grand Prix.
00:13Sorry, guys.
00:15I just need more time.
00:20Liam Lawson takes that top place.
00:23Oh, my God, man.
00:25This is bad news for Red Bull.
00:28In this business, to succeed,
00:31sometimes you've got to take action.
00:34Liam Lawson has been fired from Red Bull
00:36and demoted back to Junior Team Racing Bulls.
00:39Are you kidding me? Two racers!
00:42I don't see how it's anything other than
00:45a huge embarrassment for Red Bull.
00:51Right, shall we do this shirt change?
00:56No, it's all right, mate. It's all right.
01:02It's a total farce.
01:06Two racers...
01:08I've never seen anything like it in Formula One.
01:11The pressure is just ramped on that team.
01:15I mean, everybody's got an opinion.
01:17But do we listen? No.
01:23The wheels are coming off at Red Bull.
01:27Can Christian turn it around?
01:30Or is he out of time?
01:48OK, so hello is...
01:49Konnichiwa.
01:50You've got to do that, because that's what people love.
01:51When you warm them up, you're like,
01:53Konnichiwa.
01:53And then...
01:55Konnichiwa.
01:55Like that.
01:56Give it the big one.
02:21Konnichiwa.
02:23Konnichiwa.
02:26Konnichiwa.
02:27Konnichiwa.
02:29Konnichiwa.
02:29Konnichiwa.
02:31Konnichiwa.
02:32Konnichiwa.
02:50Konnichiwa.
02:56Maybe they feel like I wasn't ready for it, and obviously, you know, they made the decision
03:00and that's obviously their opinion.
03:03From my side, I was ready, I just didn't have enough time.
03:08I was pretty disappointed for it to all be sort of decided in two races.
03:12It didn't feel right.
03:14Have you spoken to Max about the decision?
03:20Be honest.
03:23He didn't agree with it.
03:27But at the end of the day, it wasn't up to him.
03:31Hello.
03:32Hello, how's it going?
03:34Hello.
03:35How's it going?
03:36How are you?
03:37You know, obviously telling any driver that there's going to be a change and you're taking
03:41him out of the seat is always going to be difficult and not the news that they want to hear.
03:44Three, two, one, action.
03:48Okay, great.
03:49And we'll get another one of those with the smile.
03:52This isn't a popularity contest.
03:53It's Formula One.
03:55But you can argue it was a hugely popular decision in Japan.
04:03Because within the pool of drivers that we have, there is an obvious candidate.
04:11worship.
04:12Yuki.
04:12Yuki!
04:13Yuki!
04:16Yuki!
04:16Nice shirt.
04:18And then share in your team, yeah.
04:20Yeah.
04:21Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
04:22Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
04:23This material, I think, makes me quite bigger.
04:30Rookie Tsunoda on a flying lap
04:33Yuki Tsunoda is fast
04:37Another good overtake from Yuki Tsunoda
04:39That was absolutely brilliant
04:43He's also one of the most wild
04:46Let's fucking go, man
04:47He's got a sense of humour that is on the edge sometimes
04:52Oh, no
04:54You're so nice, thank you, thank you very, very much
04:57Really, appreciate it, are you bringing it to me as well?
04:59Yeah, thanks, thanks
05:02Ace?
05:06Yuki, you're going to take a horse for the sweepstakes
05:09A big race in England this afternoon
05:11You're going to take a horse and then we're into sweepstakes
05:13Grand natural, mate
05:15What have you got?
05:19Ooh, 33-1
05:20It's 33-1
05:21I'll tell you what, if you pull up on the top ten today
05:23You can ride one of my horses
05:27OK, I've got you
05:29Who is it?
05:30Monbeg Genius
05:31Monbeg Genius
05:32Not bad
05:33Good luck
05:34OK, you be 17
05:35Thank you
05:37Thank you
05:41Oh, pretty old, cheeky
05:47Switching to Red Bull as a home Grand Prix
05:49It's a dream come true
05:52And you are special
05:53You're special, right?
05:54You keep telling me that
05:56Especially after four years in the V-carve
06:03I'm sure that how the people look at me now is a bit different
06:07Did you text Liam after you got the news or speak to him?
06:11No
06:17His ass?
06:18Yeah, so big, so funny
06:20You like my ass?
06:23Especially with these balls
06:26Hey, I've got a bigger balls, I guess
06:30I don't know about that one, but
06:35Yeah
06:37There he is
06:38Konish, you are
06:40How are you?
06:40I'm okay
06:41You all right?
06:41Yeah
06:41How are things?
06:43Yeah, you're not
06:43I'll probably have to throw the helmet on the BBC
06:47They say Max isn't happy
06:49Max isn't happy
06:50He's not happy with
06:51You know, he's
06:52I don't know what he meant by that
06:54I think there's a lot of negativity around Max is unhappy
06:58Max is
07:01Like any racing driver, they're always grumpy when they're not winning
07:09Red Bull lost the Constructors' Championship in 2024
07:14That is the most important championship
07:17That's where the prize fund money comes from
07:20That keeps that team on the racetrack
07:22They lost because they only had one car scoring points
07:28Christian needs someone in that second seat alongside Max Verstappen
07:33That can score points consistently
07:35Or senior figures at Red Bull won't be happy
07:39Christian is answerable to a board in Austria
07:43And that's run by Oliver Mintzlab
07:46With Helmut Marko as his advisor
07:56I guess the other question is
07:58What happens if it doesn't work with Yuki?
08:00Look, I've got a feeling that Yuki will
08:01I think he'll do all right
08:04He'll do all right
08:05He seems to be
08:26Yeah, you know what to do
08:33First race in a rebel racing
08:37In front of the Japanese fans
08:39They are very, very passionate
08:44There's an expectation from the team to score points
08:48Obviously, I had a pressure that I have to prove that
08:59Yuki's got to showcase
09:01He's the right caliber
09:02To be alongside Max this year
09:05All right, let's see what we've got
09:16Max Verstappen starting on pole with the fastest ever lap
09:20We've seen here
09:21Radio check
09:25Yuki Tsunoda starts 14th
09:28Pressure on Yuki to finish in the top 10
09:30And score points in that second Red Bull
09:43Yuki, release was good
09:49It's a good pace, Max, keep it up
09:50No worries behind
09:53No, no, just keep putting Max under pressure
10:19Yeah, we're too slow on this train, Fred
10:21Way too slow
10:25Okay, make a push
10:27Everything you've got here
10:34That works out, right?
10:35Let's get out of here now
10:36It's got to work, man
10:40Tightness, Nader
10:47He's hard to attack
10:53I feel like the grip felt quite poor
11:09It's not gone well for Yuki Tsunoda
11:11Failing to make an impact on his debut for Red Bull
11:14Can Verstappen hold on to first place?
11:21Max, Norris behind
11:22Has picked up his pace a little bit
11:26Leonard, this is the last lap
11:29Opportunity
11:30Yeah, I think so
11:44Yeah, I can't get any closer
11:49Max Verstappen
12:16Max Verstappen wins the Japanese Grand Prix
12:17I don't know
12:17Okay, so finishing order
12:19Max, P1
12:20Yeah, congrats
12:21Congrats, guys
12:23Sorry, couldn't get you the points for your home race
12:37Not left
12:40Yeah, not a great race
12:47It's not the result I wanted
12:49At least I wanted to finish in the points this weekend
12:51So, yeah
12:53It's a home Grand Prix, you know
12:55It's a once in a year
12:56So once during that
12:58It's a bit
12:59It's a bit tough
13:01There'll be a panic at Red Bull over that second seat
13:05You know, was it the right decision in getting rid of Liam
13:09If only Max seems capable of scoring points
13:14That's going to get the board worried
13:29Do you still feel that with the second car
13:33You are able to defend the title?
13:35No
13:36No, no
13:37We definitely need to improve to be able to fight for a title
13:40Where do you think the car is going to be in terms of drivability here at this track?
13:46So far this year, the car has not been our strongest point, to be honest
13:52But it's not just that second seat
13:54That's a problem
13:58Here's Max Verstappen
14:03I have no power of the pedal
14:06I'm not even a brake anymore
14:07It's just ridiculous
14:10Our car is proving to be a bit of a diva at the moment
14:12There is definitely potential in the car
14:15But to extract it is
14:17It's tough
14:19Oh dear, big lock-up
14:21Lap wrecked
14:26When you've got a driver like Max Verstappen
14:28That's the only person really scoring points for the team
14:31There's pressure to say
14:32Come on, we've got to give him a car
14:34That's capable of doing that
14:36I don't care, Max
14:40Peace
14:45Oh my god, I'm a zip-top
14:47Jesus
14:48Max, that was a tough afternoon in the office
14:50So you have plenty to go away and lock out
14:52Yeah
14:59How big is your concern, that he's thinking about his future, that he's staying with the Red Bull team?
15:07The car is big and as I've already said, it has to be in the near future
15:22Helmet is now doing interviews
15:24Oh really?
15:24And it's like two or three like off-the-cuff remarks
15:31Helmet, he's a cunning old fox
15:34He will use the media to assert pressure
15:39Sometimes it's very unhelpful
15:46This week, Helmet Marco says he fears your Red Bull exit
15:50Why is he saying that?
15:52I don't know
15:53So you're not thinking of leaving Red Bull at any time?
15:56No, I think just focus on commentating, I'll focus on driving
16:01And then, you know, you don't need to think about any other scenarios
16:05We just worry about you
16:09The thing is, he cannot answer the question about why is Marco saying what he's saying
16:14Because it gives the game away
16:17He can't answer any of the questions about his future
16:20The fact that he can't answer it
16:28He's got an exit clause
16:30There's a lot of chat about Max having an exit clause
16:33Is that true?
16:36I think there's certain criteria within his agreement
16:38That there's certain benchmarks that we have to achieve
16:42That will be what, you know, dictates the outcome of whether he stays or not
16:48So it's really crucial to turn things around
16:53I don't want to let McLaren beat us at either championship
16:56So
16:57That would be a big disappointment
17:01But it's much worse than anybody had expected
17:05The relationship between Christian and Jos Verstappen
17:08Max's father and essentially his manager
17:11It's just terrible
17:13Let's just say they don't see eye to eye
17:15And they haven't for some time
17:18The Verstappen holds a lot of power within the corridors of Red Bull Racing
17:24If he determines that things aren't going in the direction that benefits his son
17:30Then he'll move to extricate him
17:33That's going to get the board shaking
17:41Do you think Christian's worried about the rumours?
17:44I don't think Max was built to finish when he's at the sixth last race
17:48I know he's got an exit clause in his contract
17:51So I would imagine he would jump if he can
17:56Red Bull doesn't seem to be a very happy place at the moment
18:00Everyone seems to have their knives out for each other inside that racing team
18:05But it comes off so arrogant
18:07I'm sure he sees that as no big deal
18:09But when you put them all together and you look at how they're doing
18:12Looks like a big deal to me
18:19Max Norris behind
18:21No, it's still good to drive
18:24I can't hold this much longer
18:30Each and every race that goes by
18:33There is pressure from every angle
18:39Lando Norris has squeezed the head of Max Verstappen
18:42What the fuck
18:44I think he saw two laps to go
18:47The pace is incredibly slow
18:50It's just ridiculous
18:53Max Verstappen has to settle for fourth place
18:56Hard like today, Max, we just weren't quick enough
19:00What finish?
19:028-10
19:03And once again it is McLaren in Miami
19:09The walls are closing in on Christian Horner
19:14Red Bull are potentially falling here
19:24Good job, you keep on going
19:28Keep up the pace
19:58You're right?
19:59Yuki
20:03Yuki
20:04Yuki
20:09Yuki
20:28Yuki
20:51Yuki
20:52Yuki
20:52Yuki
20:57If you've never been to the Austrian Grand Prix, this will come as a surprise.
21:01But you cannot order a Coke...
21:04...within, like, a five-mile radius of the track.
21:08The only thing they have on the menu is a Red Bull Cola.
21:12It's Red Bull country. It's wild.
21:18Undoubtedly, it's the most important race of the season for Red Bull.
21:24Christian needs a headline result.
21:30Austria is the home race of Red Bull.
21:33You've got all the shareholders there.
21:36There's always that added pressure.
21:42There's always noise in Formula One, and, you know, we're at a point of the year...
21:47...where there are, you know, there are performance clauses in contracts...
21:50...that inevitably, you know, people become aware of and they get used and played.
21:57And some of it, I'm sure, is done to unsettle.
22:08Earlier this year, Toto, you said you were not going to flirt with the idea of signing Max.
22:12So has something changed in the last few months, either from your side or Red Bull's side?
22:19Defined flirting.
22:23Have you been in contact with Max's team?
22:26Yes.
22:27What can you tell us about that contact?
22:28Certainly when a four-time world champion appears to be free, then that is a conversation I need to have.
22:34Is there any chance Max could be at Mercedes next year?
22:37There's always a chance.
22:41A question to Max.
22:43Are you going to be driving for Red Bull Racing next year?
22:46Yeah, I don't think we need to talk about that.
22:55Thank you. All right, Max.
22:58You know you're not going to get a long answer from Max, so...
23:04Why is Toto deliberately putting into the ether that he's interested in Max Verstappen?
23:14He can see the cracks and he can see that Christian's on shaky ground.
23:18So, you know what? Ramp the pressure up.
23:34Carmen and I have been playing around with making skin care products.
23:38Pretty good. The first batch smelt like semen.
23:41This is the second batch, which is slightly better, I'd say.
23:45It's improved.
23:47I'm not selling the product very well here whatsoever.
23:52So, there's a lot of noise in the media.
23:54A lot of noise.
23:57I think they've just been waiting to sort of see where the land falls with Max.
24:03But Verstappen's clearly have a lot of power in that team.
24:08They like to manipulate situations quite a lot.
24:11Like, for whatever reason, they don't like Horner.
24:14And they're trying to get Horner out.
24:16And I sort of just wonder if all of this is a bit of a...
24:21a play and a stir.
24:23So, trying to put pressure on Red Bull,
24:26that he'll only continue with Red Bull if Christian's gone.
24:48When the pressure cooker of Formula One just almost feels like it's reaching boiling point.
25:00It's a very lonely place to be.
25:04I built this team.
25:05I've been there since the beginning.
25:07What you see is what you get with me.
25:09And that maybe doesn't sit comfortably with others.
25:13And particularly in this paddock.
25:15Because I think others know that they can't manipulate me.
25:20We've won 14 world championships.
25:22Over 100 pole positions.
25:25I won't roll over.
25:30After a disastrous qualifying for Red Bull, Max Verstappen starts in P7.
25:35Yuki Tsunoda at the back of the grid in 18th.
25:39Ten seconds.
25:41Copy.
25:57We've all 9, 10, 11.
26:23Oh, for fuck's sake.
26:26How's the video today?
26:31It's not loud.
26:33Fucking idiots.
26:35Okay, Max, please switch the car off before you get out.
26:39Sorry about that.
26:54Yuki Tsunoda continues in that second Red Bull.
26:57He is Red Bull's only hope for points here.
27:05Tell me if I'm doing anything as well.
27:08Yep, copy.
27:09Head down.
27:10Let's get good.
27:28Oh, it's large.
27:29You must sleep to me.
27:30Yes, I, we saw.
27:34Okay, Yuki.
27:35For info, we've been given a 10-second penalty for the collision with Colopinto.
27:38Deal.
27:43Lando Norris wins the Austrian Grand Prix.
27:47What up, mate?
27:48What up?
27:49Yeah, what up, everyone?
27:51Best finish of the season for Liam Lawson.
27:55Yes, mate.
27:57B6.
27:58Yeah, copy, man.
27:59Well done.
27:59What a weekend.
28:05Yuki Tsunoda, 16th and last, compounding a really terrible day for Red Bull.
28:12Well, I'm sorry.
28:15Yeah, no, I need to remember it.
28:19Oh, for sake.
28:24What a day.
28:25I don't know.
28:30Can we do this again?
28:33I think he's totally lost.
28:36Lost.
28:37Totally and utterly lost.
28:42APPLAUSE
28:57The difference in points now with Max Russell has scored 10, so it's 9 points.
29:07I can't remember a race so disappointing.
29:14Perfect for Togto, though.
29:16Yeah, I am a little bit worried.
29:18Yeah.
29:26Can you just talk to us about how you remedy this second seat struggles and how you make sure that
29:30second driver is up there so that you are able to capitalise on something when Max Stappen, who's right behind
29:35us now, has an unfortunate day like today?
29:40So, obviously, Austria didn't go so well.
29:43Yeah.
29:53Yeah.
30:02After the Austrian Grand Prix, we turned up at Silverstone
30:06and Max qualified on pole, but ended up finishing fifth.
30:1624 hours later, I was contacted to attend a meeting in London.
30:30That was where they informed me that, operationally, I was no longer,
30:35from that moment onwards, involved in the running of the Red Bull Formula 1 team.
30:41We have learned that Christian Horner has been sacked by Red Bull.
30:45He is to leave them with immediate effect.
30:58Hey, darling.
31:06All done and dusted.
31:15Thank you very much.
31:21Yeah.
31:23Anyway.
31:25Onwards and upwards.
31:29I feel a real sense of loss and hurt.
31:32It was all rather sudden.
31:34I didn't really get a chance to say a proper goodbye.
31:38How do you feel?
31:40How do I feel?
31:42Um...
31:43I never imagined to be in this position.
31:46That's, of course, your immediate reaction when you've delivered a shit sandwich like that
31:50is, like, fuck them.
31:54I've had something taken away from me that wasn't my choice,
31:58that was very precious to me.
32:00But you thought it was going to happen.
32:02We came back from that Austria race.
32:04I remember you sat on the bed all night and I went,
32:07something really bad's going to happen.
32:09So they're going to fire you.
32:10Yeah.
32:12Yeah.
32:18You haven't got any of the data here, really.
32:22Well, normally, I'd have a whole bunch of noise in my ears.
32:25So it's like you're blind.
32:29I feel a bit slight.
32:33No, I feel a bit sad watching this.
32:38I only ever gave my best.
32:40I did my best for my team, for the people that I represented.
32:44But performance this year hasn't been as strong as previously.
32:49Was it anything to do with the Verstappens?
32:52His father has never been my biggest fan.
32:55You know, he's been outspoken, you know, about me.
32:58But I don't believe that the Verstappens were responsible in any way.
33:03I think this was a decision that was made by Oliver Menzlaff,
33:08you know, with Helmut, advising from the sideline.
33:15I think, ultimately, you know, things changed within the business,
33:19within the group.
33:20You know, the founder died.
33:24And, you know, after Dietrich's death,
33:27you know, I think probably I was deemed to, you know,
33:30to have maybe too much control.
33:34Was it your decision to swap Liam with Yuki?
33:38It wasn't my choice.
33:41I was always pushed to take drivers from the Young Driver programme.
33:49Helmut was a big driver, innit?
33:51Are you gonna eat your feelings?
33:53No, but that one is really good.
33:56The reality is that, for me, over the last 20 years,
34:01on the good days and the bad days,
34:04it's been an epic journey.
34:06I mean, she's just doing that!
34:10You won't stop me!
34:15You're such a twat!
34:18Red Bull have done it!
34:20For their first ever Formula One win!
34:23Great job, Sebastian!
34:25There's a happy man, Christian Horner!
34:29It's the end of an era.
34:31You think about Red Bull, you think about Christian.
34:34Whoa!
34:37Come on!
34:38Every podium they've stood on.
34:42Every driver they've signed.
34:47Every driver they was let go.
34:51Christian was behind it all.
34:53Hello, Christian.
34:54Welcome to Red Bull.
34:56Love the guy.
34:57Don't worry, I'll squeeze Toto's bollocks.
34:59Or hate the guy.
35:01You've got a problem.
35:02Change your fucking car.
35:04I could have him in a fight.
35:06You cannot deny
35:08the level of success that he achieved at that team.
35:12You are the world champion!
35:14The world champion!
35:21We've achieved heights that others could only dream about.
35:26There's been a rivalry,
35:28there's been a competitiveness.
35:30I enjoyed every minute of that.
35:32What you heard from Toto?
35:34He said, uh,
35:36I didn't know what to say.
35:38He said, because on one side,
35:40you've been a real arsehole.
35:41But on the other hand,
35:42the sport will miss one of its main protagonists.
35:45Who should I fight?
35:47And love to hate, as you always said.
35:49Wolf and Horner have a combined
35:5214 of the last 15 world championships.
35:56Not a bad joint statistic.
35:58And I responded to him,
36:00I've loved locking horns with you
36:02all these years.
36:03So thank you for the rivalry,
36:05the competition,
36:06the needle.
36:07No one else even came close.
36:09As the statistics point out,
36:10I wish you the very best for the future.
36:14PS, you need a haircut.
36:20I think we're done.
36:21For now.
36:23Okay.
36:24Very good.
36:30When you could beat them by a teammate
36:32almost every race,
36:33it's very frustrating.
36:36Stupid fish, guys.
36:38What the fuck was that?
36:40The brakes are on fire.
36:42Where'd you go?
36:43Go on.
36:44Las Vegas is unbelievably special.
36:47You want to put on a good show.
36:49Shot me by all, doesn't it?
36:51I don't have my pass.
36:53They're under investigation.
36:56I think they might be in trouble.
36:58This is going to be a shit show,
36:59isn't it?
37:13It's going to be a shit show.
37:31We'll see you next time.
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