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Independent Lens - Season 27 - Episode 03: Life After
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00:01:12I want you to just move the chair around there so she can face the attorneys.
00:01:17Would you like to write them right here, John?
00:01:19Just have her it over around so she can face generally in that direction.
00:01:22Can you please?
00:01:26I want her microphone to be convenient.
00:01:36Just a little close to Council for a word you can use the microphone.
00:01:57Mrs. Bouvet, are you the plaintiff in the action before the court today?
00:02:00Yes, I am.
00:02:02Do you presently reside in Riverside General Hospital?
00:02:05Yes, I do.
00:02:05How long have you been there?
00:02:07Three months.
00:02:12And what was your purpose in being admitted to Riverside General Hospital?
00:02:15To just be left alone, to just be left alone and not to be bothered by friends or family
00:02:27or anyone else.
00:02:28I had to ultimately starve myself to death.
00:02:33Do you pronounce your last name?
00:02:36Bouvet.
00:02:37Bouvet or Bouvet?
00:02:37Bouvet.
00:02:39Bouvet.
00:02:39Bouvet.
00:02:40Bouvet.
00:02:40Bouvet.
00:02:41Okay.
00:02:42I will come back.
00:02:43I will come back.
00:02:44Elizabeth Bouvet is asking for help.
00:02:46She wants to die quietly in a California hospital and needs legal help to do so.
00:02:51Crippled with cerebral palsy, she said she's tired of depending on someone for every need.
00:02:56Thousands of handicapped people are watching her to see what's going to happen here.
00:02:59If she succeeds in being able to wheel herself into a hospital and say, I want to die,
00:03:05then she becomes a forerunner and how many others follow suit?
00:03:08Bouvet's lawyers call this a case of the right to refuse medical treatment.
00:03:12Lawyers for the hospital call it suicide.
00:03:15The plaintiff is asking the court to sanction her suicide in a hospital devoted to life.
00:03:21It's the patient's body, it's the patient's decision, and it may be the wrong decision
00:03:26in the view of the doctors and the nurses, it's still the patient's decision.
00:03:33Here I see a very attractive young woman who has her eyebrows taken care of by somebody.
00:03:39Do you have makeup on?
00:03:40A little bit.
00:03:41A little bit.
00:03:42Both above your eyes and on your cheeks.
00:03:45So there is something left in life for you, a kind of self-pride.
00:03:50Do you want to die?
00:03:53I feel that, you know, I've made a confident, rational decision.
00:03:57And, you know, I feel that as an individual I should be given the chance to receive this ride.
00:04:04I think I've done what I can do, and the quality of my life is over.
00:04:21Okay.
00:04:24Headed to my disability propaganda bookshelf.
00:04:36So I was reading this anthology by Paul O'Moore.
00:04:44And I read this article about Elizabeth Bruve and her quest to die.
00:04:53And I found it really compelling.
00:04:57So I started Googling her, and the Wikipedia page didn't have a year of death.
00:05:06And the more I researched, the more I began to think that Bruve was possibly still alive.
00:05:45I see myself in Halloween.
00:05:48Elizabeth Bruve moved to the world.
00:06:00I find it difficult to accept defeat when I believe I've been disregarded.
00:06:15In her quest to die, I cannot tell whether Elizabeth was violated or whether she was simply giving up.
00:06:30I need to find her.
00:06:33There are too many unanswered questions.
00:06:36There are too many questions.
00:07:06I can.
00:07:07Thank you, sir.
00:07:09All right, Reed, you're all set.
00:07:11You got it?
00:07:12Yep.
00:07:12Okay, down the hallway, please.
00:07:13All right.
00:07:14Have a good day.
00:07:15Yeah, you too.
00:07:19As I set out to find a provider four decades after a trial, I want to know what today's
00:07:28society thinks about giving disabled people access to assisted suicide.
00:07:42Requests for medical assistance in dying are increasing across the country.
00:07:47But they're not always from those with a terminal illness.
00:07:51We're beginning to hear more stories about people feeling it's their only recourse from
00:07:57excruciating circumstances.
00:07:58Yeah, it's called made for short.
00:08:01And I think a lot of people don't realize that anybody physically suffering can now apply
00:08:05to have a medical professional to help them dying.
00:08:20Okay, guys, are you rolling?
00:08:25What does made represent to you?
00:08:33For me, made, I think, represents a way out is how I would describe it.
00:08:46For most of my life, my primary caregiver was my mother.
00:08:55When mom got sick, even in her darkest hour when she was hospitalized, she was asking when
00:09:03she can, you know, sign herself out so she can come back home.
00:09:13When we heard mom's diagnosis, I had basically three thoughts.
00:09:19My first thought was, OMG, mom's going to die soon.
00:09:24My second thought was, OMG, I'm going to die shortly thereafter.
00:09:29And then I thought, OMG, how do I get my together?
00:09:41I have a job, I'm able to support myself financially, and yet I still wouldn't be anywhere close to
00:09:49having enough funds if I were to have to pay for my home care out of pocket on an annual,
00:09:56ongoing basis.
00:10:00Even before mom got diagnosed with her illness, I was receiving approximately 24 hours a week of home care
00:10:11through the government healthcare system.
00:10:13During the pandemic, I basically canceled services for fear of, you know, catching COVID.
00:10:21But once mom got sick, we needed help.
00:10:25And when I approached my agency saying, I'd like to reinstate my service,
00:10:30they basically offered 11 hours per week.
00:10:34And that was with full knowledge of what kind of situation I was facing here at home.
00:10:45The government's solution to my care need was to put me in a long-term care institution.
00:10:53I would be warehoused in conditions that are effectively debilitating.
00:10:59People are kept alive, they're fed, and they're sheltered.
00:11:02But ultimately, it feels like it's an incarceration.
00:11:07My life would be over.
00:11:09I would have no control over it.
00:11:12You know, there was even a point in time where I started wondering,
00:11:17I mean, could they somehow come and say, you're coming with us, right?
00:11:21And then lock me up in long-term care.
00:11:24A trip to long-term care is basically a one-way trip.
00:11:43Hello. I'll be speaking to what the MAID application process looks like in Ontario.
00:11:50Clinicians will ask to understand how your conditions have affected your quality of life.
00:11:55Further, Dying with Dignity Canada is available to talk through any access issues you may encounter.
00:12:03I couldn't get any sort of traction negotiating with the government for additional home care hours.
00:12:09And I have no other family able to act as primary caregiver.
00:12:14So it looked like my only choice was between long-term care or MAID.
00:12:20And in my mind, MAID is the lesser evil.
00:12:28When mom passed away, my sort of estimate was that maybe I could manage to survive for somewhere between six
00:12:36and eight months.
00:12:40I didn't want to really end my life.
00:12:43But, you know, it really just came down to a matter of funding at that point.
00:12:54There's a facade of universal health care in this country that claims to take care of anyone who gets ill.
00:13:01But the truth is, we have these points of crisis in our health care system where people are falling through,
00:13:07not cracks, but massive openings in the system.
00:13:17Elizabeth Bouvet had been stricken with cerebral palsy at birth.
00:13:21She was quadriplegic.
00:13:23And because of her unremitting pain, she wanted to end her life.
00:13:27But in a celebrated case in 1984, a California judge ruled she had no right to die, no right to
00:13:35starve herself to death.
00:13:36Whatever became of her?
00:13:38Elizabeth Bouvet is still very much alive.
00:13:48Starvation is not an easy way to go.
00:13:50You can't just keep doing it and keep doing it.
00:13:52It really messes up your body. And my body was already messed up.
00:13:57What's your life like? What is your day-to-day life like?
00:14:01It's pretty much making sure my care is taken care of, you know, scheduling nurses.
00:14:06And what does it cost for Elizabeth's existence?
00:14:10Nearly $150,000 a year, much of it coming from state and federally funded agencies.
00:14:17I just feel that this is a burden to society. I really do.
00:14:22You feel that you are a burden to society?
00:14:24I feel my physical being is, yeah. It is, financially it is, obviously.
00:14:31Elizabeth told us she doesn't want to be here should we come back in ten more years.
00:14:36In the meantime, she simply wants to stay out of the headlines
00:14:40and away from the never-ending debate over the right to die.
00:14:49This is when the coverage of Burberry stops.
00:14:56Had the media got all that they wanted from her?
00:15:01And if so, what have they left behind?
00:15:10So did I ever show you the picture of purportedly Elizabeth from the past few years?
00:15:22This is supposedly her? It's from 2018.
00:15:24Yeah. But that thickens.
00:15:28And so it's just labeled with her name and that's the only clue we have.
00:15:31Yeah, but like, I mean, conceivably it resembles how old she would be.
00:15:41She's done such a good job of hiding herself from any public sort of spotlight.
00:15:47Right.
00:15:47I understand she wants to be left alone, but maybe the fact that we have a shared experience
00:15:58that might make her more willing to talk to me because we are not the media that covered her so
00:16:11problematically.
00:16:16She looks happy.
00:16:17She does. She really does.
00:16:22I mean, there is no trace of her death anywhere.
00:16:29And so, like, what does that say ultimately?
00:16:35That she died invisibly.
00:16:50Elizabeth.
00:16:51Elizabeth Bouvet's whole life now is made up of needles and bags because her body simply doesn't work.
00:16:58She's so twisted by cerebral palsy and severe arthritis and scoliosis that she can't do anything for herself.
00:17:06There's no way out of this.
00:17:08I think I'll probably live another 10, maybe even longer years.
00:17:13You know, I'll probably get some kind of pneumonia or something.
00:17:16You know, but I don't think it's going to be a happy ending unless I control it myself.
00:17:24Reed, check your email.
00:17:27That PI that we reached out to, she found relatives, a couple sisters.
00:17:34Interesting.
00:17:36Rebecca Kastner, who lives in Seattle.
00:17:40Do you want to text her?
00:17:41Could you?
00:17:42Yeah.
00:17:42Yeah.
00:17:43Hi, Rebecca.
00:17:44My name is Reed David Poole.
00:17:46And I'm a documentary filmmaker.
00:17:49I have a disability.
00:17:52I'm doing a film on her sister's two-sided disability.
00:17:56And if I'm not mistaken, I believe you're Elizabeth Bouvet's sister.
00:18:01You can give me a call at this number.
00:18:05Thanks so much.
00:18:08Send.
00:18:10All right.
00:18:21Hello?
00:18:23Hi, Rebecca.
00:18:24Drude.
00:18:26Hi.
00:18:27We're looking for relatives of Elizabeth.
00:18:33And, um, well, as I present, um, since, um, we're looking for relatives of Elizabeth.
00:18:38She was, um, a big part of the news.
00:18:46Yeah.
00:18:47It's a, it's a tough one.
00:18:49Um, she didn't want to die.
00:18:52But, um, the quality of her life was really bad because she was in so much pain towards her end.
00:19:02And she died about 10 years ago.
00:19:06I have to say, she, she went peacefully.
00:19:09She had been sick.
00:19:10Well, uh, she, she had some kind of lung infection.
00:19:13And she passed out.
00:19:15She had a DNR because, uh, that was her choice.
00:19:19We, we, we weren't even sure if she was alive or not because we couldn't find an obituary.
00:19:32Um, this is hard for me to talk about.
00:19:37Um, but my other sister, Teresa, Elizabeth and Teresa were extremely bonded.
00:19:44Uh, and she may not talk to you.
00:19:46I don't know.
00:19:48Is this information helpful?
00:19:50It's very helpful.
00:19:52I really appreciate you talking to us.
00:19:56Take care of me.
00:19:57Bye.
00:19:58Bye.
00:20:02Whoa.
00:20:26I, I keep thinking of that picture and wanting to believe that was her, like, smiling.
00:20:35We haven't seen that in the New York Haver.
00:20:39It's her fighting in court.
00:20:43It's her in a hospital bed with creepy Mike Wallace and things.
00:20:51But this picture is the total opposite of that.
00:20:55I don't know if you give me hope.
00:20:58I mean, I was, I was hoping that we could maybe talk off camera or on and I could just
00:21:13find her in a very peaceful place in her life where she isn't fighting ableism or the media.
00:21:28Yeah.
00:21:29That would have been nice for me personally.
00:21:34Um, and I think I could have pointed to Elizabeth and say, oh, look at this. Look at her.
00:21:48She lived.
00:21:51She lived.
00:22:03Learning that Elizabeth died 10 years ago was a turning point for me.
00:22:14But I didn't answer my questions.
00:22:18My life after being at the center of controversy is key to understanding her.
00:22:37I'm vaccinated.
00:22:39This is more at the end ofč—¤ Tark.
00:22:43She lived in Los Angeles at her Susan Park.
00:22:53A member of my country's Industry
00:22:54I'm going to help this child in food and food.
00:22:56about your sister, and I guess,
00:23:00I'm wondering if you could describe
00:23:03the relationship you've had with Liz.
00:23:08Wow, that's, it's a long circuitous
00:23:11kind of trip, journey.
00:23:17I had been carrying a lot of guilt over the years
00:23:19when she died on March 29th, 2014,
00:23:25and it was probably one of the most painful times
00:23:28in my life to lose her.
00:23:31And only my closest friends know who my sister is.
00:23:37It's not something, you know, I talk about too much.
00:24:00Look at Grandma, that's Liz.
00:24:03Oh my God.
00:24:03Liz in 50, 58, that's Liz.
00:24:07Oh my gosh.
00:24:08Do you remember that?
00:24:09No.
00:24:12Do you remember this board that she,
00:24:14they would wrap her up on that.
00:24:16I remember that, yeah.
00:24:17And there's you, and there's me.
00:24:21What was the purpose of it?
00:24:23To get her to stand?
00:24:25Oh my God.
00:24:26You know, right?
00:24:27Yeah.
00:24:30Liz was about four or five when I was born,
00:24:34and of course I don't remember much of that.
00:24:36But I do remember, you know,
00:24:40my sister needed 24-hour care.
00:24:42And so I think that really put a strain on the family.
00:24:48And then my dad ended up filing for divorce.
00:24:54We were pretty poor.
00:24:56And, you know, I think we were on welfare
00:24:58for a big chunk of that time.
00:25:01And then my mom remarried,
00:25:05and Liz and I just depended on each other emotionally.
00:25:09And I was also her kind of caretaker.
00:25:14But that didn't last for too long
00:25:16because my stepfather and mother decided to send her
00:25:20to a facility called Angel View.
00:25:24And that was really, really devastating.
00:25:28Really, really devastating.
00:25:30That's at Angel View.
00:25:32This was her bed that she lived for,
00:25:36for like eight years.
00:25:41Do you remember visiting her?
00:25:43Oh, yeah.
00:25:44Mm-hmm.
00:25:46Yeah.
00:25:49How do you think that affected her?
00:25:53I know that it was probably the saddest moment
00:25:57for her in her life.
00:25:58You know, you're in an institution.
00:26:01And she really didn't want that.
00:26:06But I think, you know, in retrospect,
00:26:09being in that institution was better
00:26:11than being at home with us, honestly.
00:26:19My mom and my stepfather started drinking,
00:26:22and there were a lot of fights.
00:26:25My stepfather was abusive physically.
00:26:31That was kind of the, when we were really separated
00:26:36for a long time.
00:26:44I believe, Teresa, I believe that the home
00:26:49was no place for this or for anyone.
00:26:56But I am still not convinced that Angel Viewer's brother.
00:27:18Segregation is part of the trauma of being disabled.
00:27:22For institutionalization is segregations absolute.
00:27:45During that time, Liz had undergone a bunch of surgeries
00:27:51that were approved by my mom and stepdad.
00:28:05Can you talk about the surgeries?
00:28:08They were god-awful.
00:28:10She had long incisions in the back of her leg,
00:28:15on both legs.
00:28:16As I recall, they were cutting the tendons or something
00:28:21so that her legs wouldn't be so tight
00:28:25so that she would be able to use them.
00:28:27Her hands were severely bent,
00:28:31and so they did put pins and little rods in her hands
00:28:38to try to straighten them out.
00:28:39I think at least one hand, and that did not help.
00:28:45She had a dislocated hip.
00:28:48Her hip would, like, pop out.
00:28:50They would put her in this cast,
00:28:54and evidently they didn't set it right,
00:28:56and she was in excruciating pain,
00:28:58and nobody would listen to her.
00:29:00And finally, she had no eye.
00:29:02She just started screaming and didn't stop screaming
00:29:05until they took the cast off and found
00:29:07they had pinched a nerve in her hip.
00:29:10Her body was like a battlefield.
00:29:19We were led to believe that this surgery or that surgery
00:29:22or a body brace or the leg braces or the...
00:29:26physical therapy,
00:29:27physical therapy,
00:29:28um...
00:29:29all these things would lead to
00:29:31kind of a normal life.
00:29:34Do you think that these surgeries contributed
00:29:38to the pain she felt for the rest of her life?
00:29:44Yeah, of course.
00:29:45I mean, they think it's worth the risk
00:29:51because how could you live like that?
00:29:55It's a very medical mentality.
00:29:59To make her like me, normal, right?
00:30:01This whole normal thing, yeah.
00:30:03I'm not against a citizen suicide,
00:30:08but it worries me to put so much power
00:30:14into doctors' hands
00:30:17because they still treat every ailment,
00:30:22every disability as a deficit.
00:30:26and if they can't fix it,
00:30:28they want to eliminate.
00:30:30What do you mean?
00:30:49Hello.
00:30:50My name is Melissa Hickson
00:30:51and I'm the wife of Michael Hickson.
00:30:54I'm making this video because I know
00:30:56there have been a lot of questions
00:30:57surrounding what happened to him.
00:31:01Um, so could you tell us
00:31:05who, um, Michael Hickson was?
00:31:09Michael Hickson was my husband,
00:31:12my children's father.
00:31:14Um, he was, as a person,
00:31:18he was a loving, giving person.
00:31:24In 2017, Michael went into
00:31:28sudden cardiac arrest
00:31:29while he was driving me to work.
00:31:31As a result of that,
00:31:33he had an anoxic brain injury.
00:31:34He was blind and had a, um, spinal cord injury
00:31:38that caused him to be quadriplegic.
00:31:40Um, originally he was in a coma.
00:31:44Several doctors kept saying to me,
00:31:47it's so, you know, we can just let him go.
00:31:50You know, if you want us to, we can.
00:31:53In fact, they encouraged it.
00:31:56And when he came out of the coma,
00:31:58people that have brain injuries
00:32:00tend to not want to verbalize a lot sometimes.
00:32:04But the doctors would assume
00:32:05if he didn't respond quickly,
00:32:08they would just dismiss him.
00:32:11Are you talking smack?
00:32:13Yes.
00:32:15Do you feel bad about it?
00:32:18No.
00:32:21So you only talk this much to roast me?
00:32:25Mmm.
00:32:27Oh my goodness.
00:32:30Oh, wow.
00:32:34Wow.
00:32:34Wow, Dad.
00:32:39From 2017 to 2020,
00:32:42no one wanted to treat him.
00:32:44No one wanted him to get any type of rehabilitation.
00:32:48Did you expect doctors to be discriminatory,
00:32:54or was this a shock for you?
00:32:56I think as most people believe,
00:32:59that doctors are healers,
00:33:01that they're there to help you get better.
00:33:04I never thought that a doctor would ever question life.
00:33:10The court appointed temporary guardians
00:33:13to make decisions on his behalf.
00:33:18The hospital wanted him to be discharged.
00:33:21So the guardian came in,
00:33:23and they moved him into a nursing home
00:33:25where he contracted COVID-19.
00:33:29On June 5th,
00:33:31Melissa Hickson went to see her husband
00:33:33on the ICU at St. David's South Austin Medical Center.
00:33:38On that day at the hospital,
00:33:40Hickson found her husband's doctor in the hallway.
00:33:43What Melissa Hickson says happened to her husband
00:33:46and what the hospital says are in conflict.
00:33:51At this point, the decision is,
00:33:54do we want to be extremely aggressive with his care,
00:33:57or do we feel like this will be futile?
00:34:01And the issue is,
00:34:02will this help him improve his quality of life?
00:34:05Will this help him improve anything?
00:34:07And will it ultimately change the outcome?
00:34:09And the thought is,
00:34:11none of the answer is no to all of those.
00:34:14But what would make you say no to all of those?
00:34:17Because as of right now,
00:34:18his quality of life,
00:34:19he doesn't have much of one.
00:34:23What do you mean?
00:34:26Because he's far out of liberalism,
00:34:28he doesn't have quality of life.
00:34:30Correct.
00:34:34Who gets to make that decision,
00:34:35whether somebody's quality of life,
00:34:37if they have a disability,
00:34:39their quality of life is not good.
00:34:41So it's not me.
00:34:43I don't make that decision.
00:34:44However,
00:34:46will it improve his quality of life?
00:34:47The answer is no.
00:34:49Because I'm hitting it.
00:34:50Being a disability isn't improving the quality of life.
00:34:53So I can count with one hand,
00:34:56the three people that have made it through.
00:34:59However,
00:34:59his quality of life is different than theirs.
00:35:01They were walking, talking,
00:35:02and I don't mean to be frank or brace of anything.
00:35:06But at this point,
00:35:08we're going to do what we feel like is best for him,
00:35:10along with the state.
00:35:11And this is what we decided.
00:35:13I mean,
00:35:14this doesn't make any sense for me to not try.
00:35:16I don't,
00:35:17I don't get that part.
00:35:18And it's,
00:35:19it's not,
00:35:20it's not easy.
00:35:21And this is a calculated decision.
00:35:23And we feel like this is what's going to be best for him.
00:35:30All that week,
00:35:31I contacted the hospital and tried to have FaceTime visits with my husband.
00:35:36And each day,
00:35:37the hospital responded that they would call me back,
00:35:39but they never did.
00:35:41On June the 11th,
00:35:43he passed away at 10, 10 PM.
00:35:45And I was not contacted until June the 12th
00:35:49at approximately 1130 AM.
00:35:52And I never had a chance to even say goodbye.
00:36:03Go away.
00:36:28Michael was my best friend, um, and it's really hard to figure out where I go from here without him.
00:36:43Can I give you a hug?
00:36:45Yeah.
00:37:20What's that?
00:37:35What?
00:37:37Do you need an ambulance or are you fine?
00:37:42Yeah.
00:37:42I'm fine.
00:37:43We're not in there.
00:37:44No.
00:37:46Somebody just said that you might have looked like you was in distress or something, so that's
00:37:49why I asked.
00:37:49No.
00:37:50I'm fine.
00:37:50I'm fine.
00:37:50Keep this busy, y'all.
00:37:52Well, okay.
00:37:52No problem.
00:37:53No, just we gotta do our job.
00:37:54You know, somebody had a concern and so we stopped in there.
00:37:57Okay.
00:37:58Have a good one.
00:38:27Disabled people aren't threatened by our bodies.
00:38:36We're threatened by other people's bodies.
00:38:50In Ottawa, senators are set to begin the final debate on an amended version of Bill C-7,
00:38:56which aims to expand access to medically assisted dying.
00:39:04At the time when MAID was expanded to disabled people, it wasn't on my radar.
00:39:10I think that happened basically a year or so before things started to crumble around
00:39:17my life, so it was something that I, you know, became aware of after the fact.
00:39:24We may even have a news conference tomorrow.
00:39:26Publicly, the government keeps saying, wait until tomorrow.
00:39:31Sources say the Liberal Cabinet struggled with several issues as it crafted this proposed
00:39:35legislation.
00:39:38In 2016, legislation was passed through the Canadian Parliament that allowed medical assistance
00:39:43in dying, or MAID.
00:39:46At the time, it was seen as a progressive legislation, a move forward, because the process only allowed
00:39:54for people if they had a reasonably foreseeable death.
00:39:58But the Quebec Court directed our federal government to broaden the legislation to allow people the
00:40:05access MAID, even if they weren't going to die in the immediate or foreseeable future.
00:40:10And that includes people living with disabilities.
00:40:15That resulted in the addendum of Bill C-7.
00:40:21Minister Lametti, we'll start with you.
00:40:23The floor is yours.
00:40:24Please go ahead.
00:40:25Bill C-7 proposes an important change to our medical assistance in dying or MAID regime.
00:40:31This legislation will prioritize the individual autonomy of Canadians who are suffering to choose
00:40:36a peaceful death if they determine that their situation is no longer tolerable to them,
00:40:41regardless of proximity to death.
00:40:46So who are we talking about?
00:40:49This is Linda Jarrett.
00:40:51Linda was diagnosed at the age of 50 with secondary progressive multiple sclerosis.
00:40:57She does not want to stay in a 24-7 long-term care facility for what could be years on
00:41:02end.
00:41:03She wants the comfort of knowing that she will be able to make a choice if her condition
00:41:07and her suffering becomes too much to bear.
00:41:11For 40 years, dying with Dignity Canada has been committed to advancing end-of-life rights
00:41:16and helping Canadians avoid unwanted suffering.
00:41:22We're here today to speak in support of the legislative amendments that have been put forward in Bill C-7.
00:41:28There were, I believe, more than 120 experts that sat in front of Parliament and gave their recommendations on Bill
00:41:35C-7.
00:41:37And around 50 organizations, doctors and individuals and advocates spoke vehemently against the legislation.
00:41:46It is very interesting that out of everybody who is here, most of them are made lobbyists.
00:41:55You guys need disability experts to speak to you about what they consider as dangerous in this bill.
00:42:04I think when witnesses refer to other witnesses on the panel as lobbyists in a derogatory manner, I think that's
00:42:10not really respectful.
00:42:15We did hear various voices, including voices from the disability community.
00:42:20We took the decision, put quite simply, to reduce suffering.
00:42:30Why us? Why only us? Why only people whose bodies are altered?
00:42:37Why not everyone who decides that their quality of life is in the ditch?
00:42:45Disability advocates recognized and raised flags that said this opens up a quagmire where people with disabilities could be pressured
00:42:54to access MAID instead of receiving the proper supports and services.
00:43:03It looks as though the government is rushing legislation to allow people the right to die without also supporting the
00:43:09right to live.
00:43:10And that's where I get worried.
00:43:15What we're doing with Track 2 or Bill C-7 is we're singling out one group of Canadians and saying,
00:43:22boy, it must be terrible to live your life, and we think it's so terrible that we're going to assist
00:43:28you to end it.
00:43:30Our biggest fear has always been that having a disability would become an acceptable reason for state-provided suicide.
00:43:37Bill C-7 is our worst nightmare.
00:43:46More Canadians now have access to a medically assisted death than ever before after the controversial Bill C-7 was
00:43:53signed into law late last night.
00:43:55Now, previously, death had to be reasonably foreseeable for you to be granted what's also known as MAID.
00:44:01That isn't the case anymore.
00:44:22It usually takes us up to about a week to arrange all the things that are required for your assisted
00:44:30death.
00:44:30Such as arranging nursing for helping with the IV, and arranging medications through a pharmacy.
00:44:38I just want to finally stress how important it is to start this process early,
00:44:43so that you don't miss out on your chance to have an assisted death, if that is what's most important
00:44:50to you.
00:44:54Don't miss your chance.
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00:45:28That was very dexterous, though.
00:45:30I know.
00:45:31I'm a miracle.
00:45:33You're so brave.
00:45:35You're an inspiration to us all.
00:45:37Yeah, you're welcome.
00:45:39How often does your disability
00:45:42deliver daily activities?
00:45:44Always.
00:45:49I'm scared.
00:45:50This is making me scared.
00:45:54Yeah.
00:45:55If I had to get any hits on the door.
00:46:01So you could confirm all of the above.
00:46:07I, so I would pass this reply color if I didn't get it.
00:46:14And if you wanted to die.
00:46:17Yes.
00:46:24I believe that my medical condition is serious and cannot be worthy by any means or accept.
00:46:37I have to say, I tried to be funny on the first page, but doing this was difficult.
00:46:53What was going through your mind?
00:47:00I think that I'm wondering how I would view my life if I didn't have the support of the
00:47:16family and my partner and my friends and how I would view my life because I, you know, obviously
00:47:34I have felt.
00:47:41I have felt.
00:47:42Anything, anything, I guess, different in the past.
00:47:51It's interesting just hearing you say you don't know what, you don't know how you would view your life necessarily
00:47:58if you didn't have your friends and your family and a support system and everything that, you know,
00:48:06something you love to do that you get to do.
00:48:08Yeah.
00:48:08Making films like, I feel the same way.
00:48:11Yeah.
00:48:12What if I didn't have any of those things either?
00:48:13Yeah.
00:48:14I wouldn't be allowed to do this.
00:48:15Yeah.
00:48:18Yeah.
00:48:19I don't know what you're thinking.
00:48:21Weird.
00:48:22Weird.
00:48:23Weird.
00:48:32Weird.
00:48:33Weird.
00:48:33Weird.
00:48:33Weird.
00:48:33Weird.
00:48:33And then indirectly whether I have ever considered killing myself I resented not because I'm ashamed
00:48:50but because a physical question, then a non-disabled filmmaker would not be asked.
00:49:01This film is not about suicide, it's about the phenomenon that leaves people desperate
00:49:11to find their place in the world that perpetually rejects them.
00:49:21I have fallen in and out of that desperation my whole life.
00:49:49Look at that, that's in her apartment after she graduated from high school and left Angelview.
00:49:56I remember she liked to have her hair feathered.
00:49:59I love this picture.
00:50:03Yeah, she had her own bitchin' van when she could get around more.
00:50:11This is her graduation.
00:50:15Yeah, SDSU.
00:50:18She was happy, that was a great time.
00:50:20It was such a great day.
00:50:21She's like, give me that champagne!
00:50:23Yeah!
00:50:28And then it just got, a couple years after that, she just, it was kind of going downhill.
00:50:32Mm-hmm.
00:50:35Well, I'm kind of wondering what happened.
00:50:40It seemed like she was finally finding a place in college.
00:50:47She had this dose of independence and she carried that momentum into grad school where she wanted
00:50:58to be a medical social worker.
00:51:00How did she go from kind of ready to be of service to other people to wanting to end her
00:51:14life so quickly?
00:51:18There's layers to that, to properly answer that.
00:51:26A professor told her that she would never work and that she shouldn't be in graduate school.
00:51:33And so, she dropped out of college.
00:51:38During that time, she met Richard.
00:51:43I didn't even know she had gotten married until after she was married.
00:51:47She got pregnant, which was probably one of her biggest dreams.
00:51:52She loved kids, but she lost it.
00:51:57And then she actually left Richard permanently.
00:52:04It was not a good marriage at all.
00:52:06And then after that, she did not want to go on in this life with what she had.
00:52:16It was an angel to me because when I was in graduate school,
00:52:22I had a professor who wouldn't accommodate me and I wanted to drop out.
00:52:32Wow.
00:52:33And I don't know what would have happened if I wasn't able to finish graduate school.
00:52:41And we were the same age.
00:52:43We were both 25.
00:52:46Wow.
00:52:48Yeah.
00:52:55So this lady wrote an article about Liz in this local newspaper,
00:53:00and it immediately went across, just spread like wildfire.
00:53:04Elizabeth Bouvet lies flat on her back in a hospital room in California.
00:53:08Her body is useless to her.
00:53:10Trapped in a useless body.
00:53:11Trapped in a useless body and wants to die.
00:53:13She wants to be helped to starve.
00:53:15A severely handicapped.
00:53:17Physically helpless.
00:53:18And victim of cerebral palsy.
00:53:20The severely disabled woman.
00:53:21She's living in a body that she really can't control, can't do anything with.
00:53:25She's very bright.
00:53:25She's intelligent.
00:53:26She's attractive.
00:53:27But so what?
00:53:28Her body finally gave up.
00:53:31I just turned off the media.
00:53:33They just made stuff up that wasn't even like they were talking about her.
00:53:38I know what kind of help is available to me.
00:53:40And I'm saying that I do not wish to have that any longer.
00:53:44And I do not want that.
00:53:47Do you realize what the consequences of the court granting your request in this case would be?
00:53:53Yes, I do.
00:53:54What would the consequences be?
00:53:56Ultimately, it would be death.
00:54:01I didn't think it was completely out of the blue for you.
00:54:05It was out of the blue, like it was like a slug in the gut, really.
00:54:13It was really painful.
00:54:15Painful for the family.
00:54:23Okay, can I stop?
00:54:24Yeah.
00:54:25Just for a second.
00:54:26Yeah, take your time.
00:54:36Doctors want to discharge Bouvet.
00:54:38They say she's medically ready.
00:54:39But there's no place for her to go.
00:54:41The hospital has contacted care facilities throughout California.
00:54:45And none is willing to take responsibility for her.
00:54:48I can't see myself sitting in a common lesson home or attempting to struggle on the outside.
00:54:56Is the argument a question of her mental competence to make a decision like this?
00:55:01She is totally rational, free of mental disease, and has made this decision after very careful consideration of the options,
00:55:09an understanding of the consequences, a real good try, a heroic try at life,
00:55:15and on the basis of no sort of coercion or overbearingness on anyone's part at all.
00:55:24Richard Scott was the public face of Bouvet's legal team.
00:55:31He also co-founded the Hemlock Society in 1980.
00:55:43The national organization's mission was to expand access to assisted suicide in the U.S.
00:55:56the public face of Bouvet.
00:55:59I questioned the intent of the lawyers.
00:56:05You know, they are going to fight for her.
00:56:07But maybe she didn't ultimately really want to go that far.
00:56:12That was in my gut.
00:56:14You know, did she dig herself down into a hole?
00:56:18You know, what is it that we would need to do to make her come out of that
00:56:22or to give her a line with the right counselors and the right support and looking at alternatives?
00:56:32Maybe it would be okay.
00:56:34Maybe it would be okay.
00:56:39On the surface, the hospital's lawyers seem to have very-ese interest in mind.
00:56:48But like Richard Scott, they had their own agenda, which was to protect the hospital.
00:56:58Your Honor, the authority to carry out plaintiff's requests certainly can only be legislative,
00:57:06because what plaintiff is asking flies smack in the face of the civil, penal, and administrative
00:57:14laws of this state. The effect of a ruling in favor of the plaintiff would require hospitals,
00:57:20clinics, physicians, medical professionals, and their personnel to be dispensers of death on
00:57:27demand. The potential for abuse is not hard to imagine. Euthanasia, murder, assisted suicide
00:57:35would be a reality. Your Honor, in a civilized society that values life, the consent of those
00:57:44who are governed, would never allow it. And may we never see that day.
00:57:55More than 6,700 Canadians have had medically assisted deaths since it became legal in 2016.
00:58:02I've got some new statistics on how many British Columbians are making that choice, and the numbers
00:58:06are rising. Since the MAID passed, it's been an astronomic increase in the number of deaths.
00:58:18Canada has actually outpaced Belgium, the Netherlands, and Luxembourg, who've had assisted suicide
00:58:26for 20-plus years.
00:58:31I'm not surprised, because in working with the populations and the persons that I work with,
00:58:37they are often made desperate. For example, it can take to see a psychiatrist or a pain specialist
00:58:45a year or two. Now, imagine you're waiting, getting sicker the whole time, but then someone offers you
00:58:53to very attractively death within 90 days. What kind of choices are we giving people?
00:59:19During the hearings for Bill C-7, the Senate requested that the Parliamentary Budget Officer estimate cost savings
00:59:28of expansion of medical assistance in dying.
00:59:38Based on just people whose lives would be ended many, many years early, who would have needed disability
00:59:44and home supports, the cost savings would be enormous.
00:59:52So, these findings were reported in the media before the passing of Bill C-7, and it was part of
00:59:59what the Senate requested
01:00:00in their deliberation to decide whether to go ahead with expansion.
01:00:08In Canada, home care and other assistance, such as cleaning and cooking and home nurses, like, those things have been
01:00:15cut desperately.
01:00:16And at the same time, we're watching this legislation broaden to include more people being allowed to access MAID.
01:00:24A 27-year-old was given the green light to receive medical assistance in dying.
01:00:29Her only known diagnoses are autism and ADHD.
01:00:3423-year-old Keanu Wafayan was approved for MAID as he was suffering from type 1 diabetes and vision loss
01:00:41until his mother intervened.
01:00:44And there isn't a ton of awareness or training for doctors to educate them on what is a vulnerable person
01:00:52and how to avoid pressuring people into this.
01:00:56For Christine Gauthier, the fight to get a wheelchair lift in her home has been an uphill battle.
01:01:02While pleading her case to a Veterans Affairs case manager, she was told something that would leave her feeling shocked.
01:01:08If things are so hard, then you just can't keep going on and you know we can assist you with
01:01:15the aid to die.
01:01:16Alan Nichols' family says he suffered from mental illness and was not eligible for the lethal injection doctors gave him.
01:01:29It's quite clear that disabled people are dying significantly through MAID and there are many, many, many stories.
01:01:38Okay, we have to just be very careful of the language that is used.
01:01:47We cannot have on the record that disabled persons are dying en masse because of Track 2 MAID.
01:01:53They must qualify for MAID otherwise you can't access MAID.
01:01:58Canada is one of the most liberal countries in the world when it comes to medically assisted dying.
01:02:03It's further expanding eligibility to include people with mental disorders.
01:02:08The only way you can justify the system in place right now is if you think that people who are
01:02:15disabled are not worth the same as someone with an able body.
01:02:20We're moving really quickly to talk about further potential expansions versus looking back on all the missteps and all the
01:02:28potential cases that I'm talking about that you guys seem to not know about where people have died when they
01:02:33shouldn't have.
01:02:33To the point where the Canadian Human Rights Commission last week put out a statement against this.
01:02:38So what I'm saying is we need to slow down and my recommendation is that we take our time and
01:02:44take this seriously.
01:02:53The decision makers who are weighing in about MAID are coming into it with their own biases in mind.
01:03:02Many people are afraid of disability.
01:03:04They've never had to interact with it before.
01:03:07I think it's easier for those of us who are born disabled to imagine a future.
01:03:11But when you acquire it, when you have like an accident or you're aging in life, it's like you're losing
01:03:17functionality.
01:03:18You're losing the thing about you that society said made you great and able to be productive.
01:03:23And a lot of the senators and elected officials that I've heard from are afraid themselves of aging and they
01:03:30want autonomy.
01:03:30It's about a sense of control and disability really takes that away from you.
01:03:34And I think those of us who are born with it, disabilities, we understand that.
01:03:38But the decision makers who are afraid of themselves and what their bodies will look like in the future are
01:03:44really ruining our chances at surviving.
01:03:52Hi Catherine.
01:03:53Hello. How are you?
01:03:56Things with me are okay.
01:03:58Just the feeling of overwhelm that I get knowing that we're up against like an entire lobby group of like
01:04:06former politicians
01:04:07and just how big this lobby group is, but it's not really talked about often.
01:04:12Yeah, well, the effort of lobbying where they go on about compassion and suffering.
01:04:25Suddenly they're all concerned about our suffering.
01:04:28Oh, here's finally something we can do for or about all those suffering people.
01:04:35We just get them to ask for me.
01:04:38I think, when Bill C. Sin was passed, we said, you cannot contain this.
01:04:45And it will become a vessel for disability eradication.
01:04:50You know, reminiscent of the Third Reich.
01:04:54We do use the language of eugenics to describe what is happening.
01:05:00I think it's a legitimate invoking of history.
01:05:06Like you cannot address human suffering by killing people.
01:05:12Even if you set it up in a way that people come forward voluntarily.
01:05:34I feel that this film will be dismissed as cynicism.
01:05:44Sounding a false alarm.
01:05:47Sounding a false alarm.
01:06:07But the death of disabled people has been justified for so long.
01:06:14So to inferiority.
01:06:15Why do we recognize new forms of an old idea?
01:06:22How do we survive history that is ongoing?
01:06:46August 4th, 1993, Jack Kevorkian was present at yet another assisted suicide, 30-year-old
01:06:52Thomas Hyde. Hyde had Lou Gehrig's disease.
01:06:54It isn't assisted suicide and euthanasia that's on trial. You know what's on trial? Your civilization
01:07:01and your society.
01:07:13Parents should have the possibility, if they so choose, to humanely end the life of a severely
01:07:20defiable infant.
01:07:24Most people don't understand what eugenics is, and if they did, they would find that they
01:07:28agree with much of it.
01:07:54I think we're going to start heading up. I have signs for both of you if you'd like
01:07:59signs. I've got these fancy shower curtain signs.
01:08:03Oh, I like that.
01:08:04You should have that then.
01:08:10Compassionate Choices organized this press conference. Before a couple of mergers and name changes,
01:08:21the lobby group was originally known as the Hemlock Society.
01:08:32Can I fit in here?
01:08:36This is the eighth year that we have stood here before you, and enough is enough. We are
01:08:43here today to demand that the legislature finally take action and pass this compassionate bill,
01:08:51the Medical Aid and Dying Act.
01:08:52And if there's not a more fundamental role of government than to relieve human suffering, I don't know why the
01:09:00hell we're here.
01:09:01Other states have outpaced us. Nevada's about to get this bill moving in their state legislature.
01:09:09That's going to be 10 states plus the District of Columbia. It's fundamental to the rights of New Yorkers to
01:09:18have agency,
01:09:19not just over their lives, but over the end of their lives. So let's get this done. Thank you, Compassionate
01:09:26Choices.
01:09:26Thank you for your excellent advocacy. We will win. New Yorkers will win. Thank you very much.
01:09:35Are you just as dedicated to fully funding home care? Are you just as committed to making sure there are
01:09:42no rollbacks,
01:09:43that home care workers can make livable wages, and when people need access to palliative and hospice care,
01:09:50they don't have to jump through all these hoops, and they don't have to become impoverished?
01:09:55Not exactly this topic, but I will say... It is very related to this topic, and you know...
01:09:59You know, we will have a budget that keeps home care workers...
01:10:03People in their own homes? All right.
01:10:09Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
01:10:14Do you think what is happening in Canada could happen in the U.S.,
01:10:20where these laws expand from terminal illness to disability?
01:10:27That's my biggest fear, was in Europe across the ocean, and now it's like right across the border.
01:10:32So like we're seeing this developing, and it's not just a slippery slope.
01:10:36It's like the snowball coming down the hill. It's going to be an avalanche.
01:10:39Because the health system is basically going to tell you, you should kill yourself.
01:10:44Because that's the cheapest option.
01:11:15It's like the worst option.
01:11:16were crumbling in on every side.
01:11:21And it did not look like there would
01:11:24be any solution forthcoming.
01:11:27I didn't want to die.
01:11:30But at the same time, I didn't want
01:11:32to live an indignified life stuck in long-term care.
01:11:38And so what was the first step for me?
01:11:43Actually, I didn't even get to the first assessment,
01:11:45to be honest, because they got back to me
01:11:50and said, we're too busy killing other people
01:11:53to come kill you today.
01:11:55Try again later.
01:11:56They said, if I'm still interested,
01:11:58I should reapply in three to six months.
01:12:03Have you reapplied?
01:12:05No.
01:12:06Why not?
01:12:08Because the situation has vastly improved from that time.
01:12:19Provisionally, there are two separate programs that offer funding for home care hours.
01:12:25Combined, it's basically just enough to give me the kind of support that I would need to remain in the
01:12:32community.
01:12:33So, hoping that that becomes permanent.
01:12:48I certainly have my ups and downs.
01:12:50I wouldn't say that my situation is fully resolved.
01:12:55But, you know, 13 months later, I'm still here.
01:12:59So that definitely shows maybe there's a way to make the impossible possible.
01:13:19Please remain seated and come to order.
01:13:21From the evidence presented, the court has determined that the ultimate issue is whether or not a severely handicapped,
01:13:36mentally competent person who is otherwise physically healthy and not terminally ill,
01:13:42has the right to end her life with the assistance of society.
01:13:48The court concludes that she does not.
01:13:52This session of this court is now adjourned.
01:13:59Not being able to have lives of their own design dictated Michael and Elizabeth's path.
01:14:09That the future suddenly realized by a pure credit backlog and a court decision is called for both celebration and
01:14:22outrage.
01:14:29Elizabeth Bouvier, the paraplegic who sued to try to force a California hospital to let her die under its care,
01:14:36appeared wanting now to live.
01:14:38She's reported to be eating again for the first time in seven months and asking for help to get better.
01:14:45You know, everybody wants to know, did she change her mind?
01:14:53I think she changed her mind.
01:14:53Who the f*** knows?
01:14:56I don't think she changed her mind per se. I think she accepted her fate.
01:15:01I think she came to the realization that this is not how she wanted to die.
01:15:08After she left Riverside General Hospital, they sent her to L.A. General and that's when she got her catheter.
01:15:16She had a morphine drip, a Hickman catheter in her chest. I think that helped her ease the pain.
01:15:25And then Teresa was able to find her a place in Pasadena.
01:15:32She got her set up and the state was actually paying for a lot of services that they hadn't paid
01:15:38for before.
01:15:42There she is, Miss America.
01:15:50There. And then we have to zoom.
01:15:52Yeah. Well, don't zoom in too far.
01:15:54See, check it out.
01:15:56Look in through there.
01:15:59Okay.
01:16:00Oh, God, I can see your pimples. Your pores. Your pores.
01:16:04Let's see your ear.
01:16:06Okay. Where are we, Liz?
01:16:09My house. In South Pasadena.
01:16:12Not Pasadena. Let's get that straight, Teresa.
01:16:16Oh, my God. There's the beanie bitty.
01:16:18Oh, my precious little beanie.
01:16:19Her little beanie babies. Her beanie babies.
01:16:23Okay, we're going down the hall.
01:16:26And we've got a bathroom.
01:16:28This is bathroom.
01:16:30And here's the nurse's room.
01:16:32This is very neat.
01:16:34She's a neat freak.
01:16:35Oh, my God.
01:16:36There's the scary doll.
01:16:38There's her new TV for her nurses.
01:16:42There we go.
01:16:43There's her wheelchair.
01:16:46It gives her a little bit of freedom to get out and harass people.
01:16:51Okay.
01:16:54When you receive government support like Liz did,
01:16:57there's a very low limit on how much money that you can earn.
01:17:00Say hi.
01:17:01Bye, guys.
01:17:03So, in order to have her equipment and staffing paid for,
01:17:07she essentially had to stay unemployed.
01:17:11You know, I think early on,
01:17:12when she first moved into that apartment in South Pasadena,
01:17:15it was actually a pretty good time, I would say, for the next 10 years.
01:17:19It was, you know, things were going pretty well for her.
01:17:23This is Lisa, her nurse.
01:17:26She worked for Liz for 24 hours, five days a week.
01:17:31This is Liz's computer.
01:17:33This is what Liz does every day, hours and hours.
01:17:38She loves her computer.
01:17:40What I'm doing here is turning a book into the computer so I can read it.
01:17:45Max's mind.
01:17:47Move down.
01:18:01We're going to the movies.
01:18:03We're going to check them out.
01:18:04There she goes.
01:18:06There she goes.
01:18:08There she goes.
01:18:15There are parallels between Elizabeth's tumultuous time under the spotlight
01:18:23and her quiet death.
01:18:25She wasn't hard enough in either.
01:18:31I am reluctant to try to wrap up her story with my interpretation.
01:18:38And while I did choose these final words, they are hers nonetheless.
01:18:53I'm reading from a draft of, kind of, this is a story that she and I were working on back
01:19:02in 2006.
01:19:06And she was a very private person, so she was hesitant to kind of go back to that time in
01:19:12the 80s.
01:19:13But I think she wanted to be able to share her story as much as she could.
01:19:20And so I was just helping her.
01:19:22So, yeah.
01:19:24So, I mean, I haven't opened this or really even looked at it.
01:19:29You know, everyone has a story to tell.
01:19:32Mine is just one in a million.
01:19:34What sets it apart, however, is the social issues surrounding it.
01:20:05Behind the media facade and the power lawyers was a scared and forgotten soul,
01:20:10trying hopelessly to maintain her dignity amongst bureaucratic chaos and overnight sensationalism.
01:20:19Sir, do you want to die?
01:20:23Do I want to die?
01:20:25Do you want to die?
01:20:32Back then, when I was asked why I chose to die, I would pathetically respond,
01:20:39I don't want to die.
01:20:41But if it means being in this body, I don't want to live.
01:20:46In truth, the answer was one I wasn't sure I could articulate.
01:20:55When I was a child, I fantasized somehow that when I got older and obtained an education, that this would
01:21:01somehow make me able to be financially independent or support myself.
01:21:08Over time, I started realizing that getting an education would not make my future as secure as I thought it
01:21:16would.
01:21:17I can't see myself sitting in a conglomerate home or attempting to struggle on the outside.
01:21:25I think one of my biggest things that really frustrated me was being trapped by the bureaucratic system on which
01:21:34I am dependent.
01:21:38I have never and will never be financially able to support myself, therefore I have to rely on a system
01:21:46that is not only overburdened, but sometimes unfair.
01:21:51It is a vicious cycle from which I will never escape.
01:21:57This, I have to say, was the number one factor in my decision to end my life.
01:22:01One more time to end my life.
01:22:19One more time to end my life.
01:22:31For my lack of life, I can simply stop.
01:22:58So, let's go.
01:23:30BIRDS CHIRP
01:23:39BIRDS CHIRP
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