00:00Where would you rank LeBron James on the all-time list of Lakers?
00:06I don't know.
00:07He's not top five.
00:08He's not, no, he's not top five.
00:09Let's just stop that.
00:10No, no.
00:10That's crazy talking, you know.
00:11I said he's not top five.
00:13You said he's definitely not top ten.
00:14I don't know if I get to ten.
00:15I don't think he's top ten.
00:16I don't know if I get to ten, okay?
00:18Magic and Kareem are clearly both ahead of them very easily.
00:22Magic, Kareem.
00:23The low goes ahead of them for sure.
00:25Jerry West, Shaquille O'Neal, and Kobe.
00:27Yes.
00:27That's five just out of the gate.
00:29Very good.
00:29Is that fair?
00:30Very comfortable there.
00:31Okay.
00:32With Shaq and Kobe there for sure.
00:34Okay.
00:34Okay.
00:35Now it gets tougher, though, once you get past those number one options.
00:39James Worthy's a better Laker than him?
00:41I don't know.
00:42See, that's where I'm not 100% sure.
00:45Now, you might want to put Wilt Chamberlain there.
00:47Wilt Chamberlain for sure is a better Laker than him.
00:49So now we're at seven.
00:50You can't do the for sure.
00:51They won one title.
00:52That's a for sure we're at seven.
00:53It's one title to one title.
00:55Because Bill Russell had nine whole famers playing next to him.
00:58No, no, no.
00:58He was playing with the logo.
01:00Wilt Chamberlain's better Laker than LeBron James.
01:03I can't with this.
01:05George Mikan, five titles.
01:07Yeah, but what?
01:08Better Laker.
01:08No, no.
01:09Are you sure that even counts George Mikan?
01:11Well, it's the Minneapolis Lakers, and then they became the LA Lakers.
01:13But George Mikan's a better Laker.
01:15I don't know.
01:16That's eight.
01:17Elgin Baylor never won a championship with him.
01:20Nine.
01:20Elgin Baylor could be in that list.
01:22Okay.
01:23And at that point, now you're scraping.
01:25Now you're scraping just the hate.
01:27So maybe he gets the 10.
01:29He gets the 10.
01:29Maybe.
01:30He gets the 10.
01:30But I think it's debatable.
01:32And I'll tell you why.
01:33I'm going to give you a guy who I don't think belongs in the Hall of Fame, and yet he's
01:38in
01:38it, who I think you'd have to say, based on championships, which is not always a fair
01:43thing to compare.
01:44I agree.
01:46Isn't Pau Gasol a better Laker than LeBron James?
01:48Pau Gasol.
01:50He won two titles as the number two option.
01:54Better Laker.
01:55He's number 10.
01:56I don't know.
01:57Norm Nixon, 11.
01:58No, you can't put Norm Nixon there.
02:00That's 11.
02:01Norm Nixon got escorted out of town.
02:03I don't care what happened.
02:04He does what happened.
02:05I know what happened.
02:06Yeah, but Norm Nixon was a great Laker because he busted his balls at a party.
02:11No, that wasn't why.
02:12Huh?
02:12No, no, no.
02:13If you actually Google that first championship, they made Magic play off the ball, and Magic
02:18was not having it.
02:19Okay.
02:19They got Norm up out of it.
02:21So we agree with Norm Nixon.
02:22Okay, great.
02:22We do not agree on Norm Nixon.
02:23So now we're 12.
02:24No, we're not 12.
02:25I think LeBron James, and again, won for Gazi championship.
02:29No, you can't do that because it's real.
02:32Just because you make this arbitrary.
02:3312 best Laker?
02:34Wait a minute.
02:35Byron Scott, 13th.
02:38You can't put Byron Scott.
02:39A much better Laker.
02:41No, and you also, he loses points with Lakers fans, and I talk to Lakers fans because of
02:44how bad he was as a coach.
02:45Now, I'm going to be fair to you.
02:46He was a terrible coach then.
02:48I'm going to be fair to you.
02:49I'm not going to include Pat Riley because he's not a player.
02:52Okay.
02:52Although he could play, obviously.
02:53Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:53I'm not going to include Phil Jackson because, again, yes, he played, but he was not a Laker
02:58player.
02:58Yeah, yeah.
02:59Okay?
02:59Like, you wouldn't put him in the top 10 Knicks players, Phil Jackson.
03:02No, of course not.
03:02Of course not.
03:02Because he's on the Knicks, but yeah.
03:03I would say that A.C. Green's probably a better Laker than LeBron.
03:08Now, here's the tough one.
03:08No, no, no, no, no.
03:10You can't put a man on there with an Iron Man streak that was completely because he didn't
03:16use his genitals.
03:17By the way.
03:18It's full testicles.
03:19You know how good at basketball you can be with completely full testicles?
03:22Considering how the Lakers partied back then, the fact that A.C. Green maintains that he
03:28was a virgin, he might be the greatest Laker of all time.
03:32Okay, if you want to do that.
03:32And Magic apparently used to send him women and to knock on his door.
03:36Because you know how hotels have Bibles?
03:38Yes.
03:38He would get the Bible and yell the Bible and read it to make the women go away.
03:42By the way, I believe that.
03:43So, I think you and I are in agreement now that LeBron James is the 14th greatest Laker
03:50of all time.
03:51You know what?
03:52I think it's good to have you and I on the same page on this.
03:55No, we're not on the same page.
03:56I appreciate that very much.
03:57Honestly, I think he's 10th.
03:59You think he's 10th?
04:00Yeah.
04:00You have to name number one options.
04:02I can't.
04:03As great as James was.
04:04Well, the first five were easy.
04:05Right.
04:05The first five I completely agree with.
04:07Yeah.
04:07I think that you can't put guys like Worthy and A.C. Green and Robert Ori and guys like
04:12that, Fisher, if you weren't the first option.
04:15I think James Worthy, because he's in the Hall of Fame.
04:17But he wasn't the first option ever.
04:19Because he's a three-time champion with the Lakers.
04:22A seven-time All-Star.
04:23He does have a Finals MVP as well.
04:26People don't remember that.
04:26James Worthy has one Finals MVP and just to cap the James Worthy conversation, and a lot
04:32of people don't know this.
04:33But he wasn't the first option.
04:34He's also on the 75th team.
04:36Yes.
04:37You know, the NBA honored the 75 greatest players of all time based on the 75th anniversary
04:42of the NBA.
04:43Yeah, and they'll do the next one at 100.
04:44James Worthy's on that team.
04:46Yeah.
04:46Great.
04:47He's a better place.
04:47By the way.
04:48You got to give me that one.
04:49I love James Worthy.
04:50Shouldn't be on that list.
04:51I'm taking that one.
04:52He shouldn't be.
04:53No, you're going to lose basketball credibility on that.
04:55No, I'm not losing basketball credibility.
04:56Just give me James Worthy.
04:57He wasn't the first option.
04:58We can discuss George Mikan if you want.
05:01I'm taking James Worthy.
05:02George Mikan?
05:03Yeah.
05:04I mean, go ahead with George Mikan.
05:05I mean, if you're going to count the Minneapolis years, I mean, you do not have to.
05:10You do not have to.
05:11I think you have to count them, don't you?
05:13No, no.
05:14So now we're going to count Syracuse at different teams?
05:16For the Knicks?
05:17Probably not.
05:18No, no.
05:19I'm saying.
05:20Now all of a sudden with the Sixers, I'm including Dolph Shays.
05:23I have to say this.
05:24What are we doing here?
05:24It depends if it helps my argument or not.
05:27Then you'll use Syracuse.
05:30I'm thinking about it.
05:32I'm thinking about it.
05:33No, no.
05:33I think that this is.
05:35So he's 18th.
05:36No.
05:36We're together.
05:37Even if I give you every benefit of the doubt, he's 11th.
05:41If I give you every benefit of the doubt, he's 11th.
05:43I probably wouldn't argue against 11th.
05:44That's just because you could say he's not top 10.
05:47But he's not.
05:48Probably.
05:49By the way, Michael Cooper, better Laker than LeBron James.
05:52No, he's not.
05:53He didn't play offense.
05:54How about that?
05:55He didn't play offense.
05:57Excellent defender.
05:58And he's disqualified for what Dr. J did to him when he rocked it on him and brought
06:02it down.
06:03That disqualifies.
06:05You can't get dunked on like that.
06:06He's a breakaway dunk.
06:07And they got swept that year.
06:09The Sixers swept them.
06:11Well, in any event, LeBron James' L.A. Laker career is about to come to an end.
06:17I wonder where you rank him.
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