00:00Yes, oh ito na Kaloy, ang daming issue ng bayan na dapat natin pinag-uusapan.
00:04That is right, mahalagang nakikisali po tayo dyan sa mga diskusyon na yan.
00:07At syempre, kasala rin dyan dapat ang mga kabatahan.
00:10Kaya bibigyan natin sila ng boses sa ating pinakabagong segment na POV!
00:16Wow!
00:16Yes, ang kanilang point of view o pananaw ang alamin natin.
00:20Ngayong umaga alamin natin ang POV nila tungkol sa usaping 4Ps kasama si UH hostmate Joy.
00:26Hi Joy!
00:27Hi guys!
00:27Good morning!
00:28Good morning mga kapuso at nandito pa rin nga tayo sa St. Bernadette College of Valenzuela
00:32upang pag-usapan ang mainit-init na topic ng program na 4Ps ng gobyerno.
00:38Pero bago natin simulan ng ating mainit na debate ngayong umaga,
00:41syempre pinakain muna natin ang ating mga masisipag at patatulino estudyante
00:45ng St. Bernadette College of Valenzuela.
00:48Meron nga tayong mga hot silog meals kanina na ipinamigay sa may hot dog,
00:53sinangagatitlog na talagang nag-energize sa ating mga estudyante.
00:56Binusog muna natin sila bago tayo mabusog sa diskusyon na gagawin natin ngayong umaga.
01:01At alam mo, perfect talaga itong Filipino breakfast dahil lahat meron na may itlog, may sinangag, may hot dog at
01:08may tubig pang kasama.
01:09At ngayon naman na pusog na pusog na sila, oras na para pusugin ang lahat para sa isang mainit at
01:16malaman na diskusyon
01:17pagdating sa programa ng gobyerno, pagdating sa usapin ng 4Ps.
01:21At para samahan tayo, para sa ating debate ngayong umaga,
01:24nandito para sa affirmative side, si Ms. Shania Carrion,
01:27ang overall top 2, overall rank 2 ng Yungstrand,
01:31at ang ating publication head for the Debate Society.
01:34At para naman sa ating opposition side,
01:37ang hinisang-ayon sa programang 4Ps ng gobyerno,
01:39narito si Ms. Hanna Yulogio,
01:42siya naman ang presidente ng Debate Society,
01:45at isa ding sudyante galing sa HUMSTrand.
01:48Ngayon naman, simple-simple lang ang ating mechanics para sa ngayong umaga.
01:51Ngayong ready na ang dalawang magdadebate,
01:54simple lang gagawin sa loob ng 30 seconds,
01:57i-de-defend lang nila ang kanilang mga na-peeling side,
02:00at meron tayong two rounds para palalimin ang diskusyon
02:03pagdating sa programang 4Ps ng pamahalaan.
02:06Simulan natin yan kay Ms. Shania,
02:08siya ang ating sa affirmative side.
02:10Ms. Shania, you have 30 seconds for your opening message,
02:13and your timer starts now.
02:15So, good morning everyone.
02:17So, with the questions,
02:18if I am favor with the projects of 4Ps,
02:21definitely I am favor in the programs of 4Ps,
02:24but I am also open to reforming it
02:27to ensure that it becomes more efficient and more sustainable.
02:31How so?
02:32So, first is it changes lives,
02:34it develops our human capital,
02:36and also it believes conscious workplace.
02:39And according to the RA 11310 or the 4Ps.
02:46And the time is up.
02:48Don't worry, Shania,
02:50dahil meron pa tayong next round
02:51para pag-usapan natin ang affirmative side
02:54o pag-sangayon sa programang 4Ps ng gobyerno.
02:57Pero bago yan,
02:57gusto muna natin marinig ang opening statement ni Ms. Hannah
03:01at ngayon naman siya ay nasa opposition.
03:03Bakit nga ba hindi siya sangayon
03:05sa programang 4Ps ng pamahalaan?
03:07Your timer starts now.
03:09Now, the people who fund the poorest of the poor
03:12are also poor.
03:14That's why I am not in favor with the programs of 4Ps,
03:18not because of their intention,
03:19but because it employs failed selectivity.
03:22Maraming mahihirap ang hindi nagkakaroon na beneficyo,
03:26and at the same time,
03:27maraming mayayaman ang nagkakaroon na beneficyo dito.
03:29So, instead of this,
03:31I would like to state that
03:32these budgets should be allocated
03:34sa other core agencies
03:36so that everyone could have benefits
03:38from our own taxpaying money.
03:41At mainit na nga talaga ang diskusyon
03:44pagdating sa usaping 4Ps ngayong umaga
03:46at para palalimin pa ang kanilang opening statements
03:48at bigyan pa ng mas makahuluhang puntos
03:52ang bawat isa, ang kanilang mga panig,
03:55narito muli si Shania para i-defend ang affirmative side.
03:58Again, you have 30 seconds.
04:01Timer starts now.
04:02So, one of the programs that I want to highlight
04:05why I am agreed to this program
04:07is that it improves our education.
04:10So, according to our Secretary Gatchelian,
04:14that 1.4 million graduates
04:17na yung napag-graduate ng 4Ps.
04:19And with that,
04:20if a policy is already changing lives nationwide,
04:24so the more logical approach
04:26is to strengthen it
04:27and not to diminish it.
04:30Strengthen it
04:31and not diminish it.
04:33At talaga namang,
04:34medyo-medyo lumalalim na usapan.
04:37Pero parang gusto ko naman marinig ngayon
04:38ang side ng opposition.
04:40Again, hindi siya sang-ayon sa 4Ps.
04:42Kaya naman, Hana,
04:44i-defend mo na yan in 30 seconds
04:45and your timer starts now.
04:48If you are to focus to the improvement of education
04:50because of 4Ps,
04:51then how will it be more effective
04:55if we are to put this budget
04:58to the DepEd directly?
05:00Therefore,
05:01we can reform not just 4Ps,
05:03but the entire curriculum
05:04so that every student can benefit from it.
05:07Again,
05:08and I am fighting for the long-term outcomes
05:10para sa lahat
05:11and hindi lang sa limitadong tao.
05:14And ended it before the timer ended.
05:18Parang hindi sapat ang dalawang rounds
05:20para sa dalawang kampo.
05:22Kaya naman,
05:22para sa kanilang closing statements
05:24at para i-defend ang kanilang mga napiling sides
05:27again sa affirmative
05:28nandito si Shania
05:29para ipagtanggol ang programang 4Ps
05:32ng Gobrieno.
05:33You have 30 seconds
05:34and timer starts now.
05:364Ps may be a short term.
05:38However,
05:39it is also necessary
05:40to enable long process progress.
05:42So it means na
05:44even though
05:45it is pantawid,
05:46therefore,
05:47it is also enables us
05:49for a long-term progress
05:50and I want to defend
05:52that I am in favor
05:53of the program of 4Ps.
05:55However,
05:55I want to amend it
05:57by re-evaluation
05:58of when I was a re-selection
05:59na naging issues
06:00ng mga against
06:02sa 4Ps programs.
06:04Maraming salamat
06:05for that closing statement,
06:07Shania.
06:07At ngayon naman,
06:08para sa kanyang closing statement
06:10at para i-defend
06:11ng opposition side
06:12ng pag-hindi pag-sang-ayon
06:14sa 4Ps ng pamahalaan,
06:16narito muli si Hanna.
06:17And your 30 seconds
06:18starts now.
06:20As the affirmative have stated,
06:21the long-term effects
06:23are only for these
06:24beneficiaries of 4Ps.
06:26However,
06:27our goal here
06:28is for every taxpayer
06:30to benefit
06:30from our own
06:32tax-paying funds.
06:33And this can happen
06:35if we are not
06:36to support the programs
06:37of 4Ps
06:37and instead
06:38put this allocation
06:39towards a general use
06:41for everyone.
06:42And I would like
06:43to state again
06:43that the purpose
06:44of 4Ps
06:45is para sa mga mahirap.
06:47Lahat,
06:47halos lahat
06:48ng Pilipino
06:49ay mahirap.
06:49So why can't we
06:50benefit from it?
06:52And that concludes
06:53our debate.
06:54Ngayong umaga,
06:55mga kapuso,
06:55talaga namang
06:56mas pinalalim nila
06:57ang diskusyon
06:57pagating sa 4Ps
06:59na programa
06:59ng ating pamahalaan.
07:00Pero isa lang
07:01ang masasabi ko,
07:02hindi natin kalaban
07:03ang mga mahirap
07:04bagkus dapat natin
07:05silang tulungan.
07:06At ang pressure
07:07ay hindi dapat
07:08nasa tao
07:08kundi nasa pamahalaan.
07:10Ang budget ng tao,
07:11ang budget ng gobyerno
07:13ay dapat napupunta
07:14sa mga tamang pondo
07:15at proyekto.
07:15At kung tama
07:16ang pupupuntahan
07:17ng ating pondo,
07:18ang lahat
07:19ng Pilipino
07:20ay makikinabang.
07:21Kaya naman mga kapuso,
07:22abangan natin
07:23kung saan pa ba tayo
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