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Love Is Blind - Season 10 - Episode 08: A Snake in the Grass
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00:16I like pickleball so far.
00:17You like it?
00:22Woo, you like that one, don't you think?
00:36Do you know what these muds are even doing to me?
00:37I have no clue.
00:39I've never mudded before.
00:40What are you doing?
00:42It's just a picture.
00:43Simba.
00:44Picture.
00:46Lower time.
00:48Yes, happy, yeah.
00:49Happy as it can be covering a bun.
00:54It's like one, two, three, four.
00:57Are there any seasonings you want me to bring from the house?
01:00I can't think about seasoning right now.
01:02Only talk about gym stuff right now.
01:05Worried about seasoning during your rest.
01:08I think about everything that I'm working on.
01:10Clearly.
01:20I'm so excited.
01:22Let's see what Chibi's doing.
01:24You ready?
01:24All right.
01:25Oh, this is so pretty.
01:27It's so bright.
01:29There's Chibi.
01:30Hi, baby girl.
01:32Oh, God.
01:33Yeah, see my place?
01:34The cold plunge.
01:36Yeah.
01:36Wish I should just do that right now.
01:38Absolutely not.
01:39I said I would do it.
01:40I didn't say when.
01:41Yeah.
01:42I love it.
01:43It's so nice.
01:44It's just crazy like you're here.
01:45I know.
01:46I can't wait to see your place, too.
01:48I know.
01:48I'm so excited.
01:49Obviously, this isn't a four-bedroom place.
01:53Logistically, it would make more sense for me to be in a space.
01:57I mean, that's what I want.
01:59Yeah.
01:59But you did say you would try the ice plunge.
02:01Oh, I promise.
02:03Yeah.
02:03I just don't know when.
02:05Maybe in like five years.
02:06Sorry.
02:06I'll put it in the calendar and I'll get a notification.
02:11And then I'll be like, ugh, I'm too old.
02:13I can't do this.
02:13No.
02:14I told you about my mom.
02:17I forget.
02:18She stuck her foot in it and literally went out.
02:20My dad sent me a video, and I was like, oh, my God.
02:24I love the idea.
02:25My parents asked me, like, how old is Jess?
02:26And I told them, they're like, does she want kids?
02:27And I was like, no.
02:28Were they sad?
02:29No.
02:29They were like, good.
02:30They know me.
02:31Oh, good.
02:32That makes me so happy, Chris.
02:33I was so scared that, like, your family would be like, oh, my God.
02:37We're never going to have, like, his babies.
02:40Like, you know what I mean?
02:42Yeah.
02:42That was one of the things, like, that I really liked.
02:44The pots.
02:45You were like, yeah, I don't want kids.
02:46Yeah.
02:47And I was like, I'm okay if I never have kids ever.
02:50Mm-hmm.
02:51But at the same time, it's like, if I was with someone,
02:53and that's really what they wanted, I wouldn't be, like, totally against it.
02:57But I don't, like, that's not, like, in my near, near future.
03:00I love you so much, and I know you'd be an amazing dad.
03:04Like, if there was a moment where, like, you and I were just like, fuck, we want this.
03:07Yeah.
03:07Like, it's not like I would say, like, oh, I would never even consider it.
03:11But, like, that's not what I see for us.
03:15Yeah.
03:16It wasn't a thing for Becky.
03:16I'm just so excited.
03:18I know I've said this repeatedly, but I'm so excited to come home to you.
03:21Like, that is one of the things I'm most excited about.
03:24I'll be there.
03:31Chris's place is gorgeous, and it's, like, the most incredible location.
03:35But, like, because of our three animals, I think it makes more sense for us to be at my house.
03:40Are you ready?
03:42I'm ready.
03:43I'm gonna wipe my feet off here.
03:45Oh!
03:48It doesn't smell like dog too bad, right?
03:52No, you can't.
03:53It doesn't smell like dog, no.
03:54I created a life that I loved on my own.
03:57And I kind of was in the mindset of, like, if I find someone, great.
04:01And when I walked in today with my fiancé, I felt, like, very at peace.
04:05Oh, my Lord.
04:07Isn't it so fun?
04:08Yeah.
04:09You don't even know what time of day it is in here.
04:11That's the goal.
04:12Yeah.
04:12Keep it real cold, put on the heating pad.
04:14Yeah.
04:15This is gonna need to be a door, because that's gonna be my closet.
04:20Oh.
04:21This could just be a closet.
04:21Pretty perfect.
04:22So this will be your closet.
04:25It's a good hat.
04:26It's good.
04:27Literally, I was gonna bring it to the pods.
04:29Were you?
04:32This room's crazy.
04:33Oh, my Lord.
04:34You have so many clothes.
04:36You can see some of the wild dresses.
04:40I kind of like this.
04:42That's the house.
04:44Isn't it nice?
04:45It looks great.
04:46You weren't lying.
04:46Is it what you thought?
04:48Um, yeah.
04:49I mean, there's a lot of, like, gold.
04:51Can you tell me that?
04:52There's a lot of gold.
04:53A lot of snakes.
04:54A lot of snakes.
04:57The bedroom.
04:58It's like a cave.
05:00What a...
05:00I love it.
05:01A forest cave with heating pads.
05:06I have multiple heating pads.
05:08It just feels nice.
05:10I know.
05:10Yeah.
05:11And if it makes your muscle feel better, your back, your neck, it's like...
05:14Right.
05:14I feel like it's very much a grandma thing, but I don't care.
05:17Is it a grandma thing?
05:20How many...
05:21I don't even want to use the word young.
05:23But how many not-old people, do you know this, use a heating pad every day?
05:29One.
05:31Exactly.
05:32Yeah.
05:33So do you feel like you could, like, see us living here together?
05:36It's just different to, like, be out in a suburb, that's all.
05:42It's very different.
05:43Mm-hmm.
05:43But it's...
05:45It's...
05:45I feel like it's...
05:47At least in Columbus, it's so close to everything.
05:50That's true.
05:50Not that it really does matter, but it's like...
05:52No, I think it does.
05:53Lifestyle-wise.
05:53It's like a total, like, total, like, change, too.
05:56A hundred percent.
05:57It's a total lifestyle change.
05:58Yeah.
05:59Like, you're able to just walk wherever you want and, like, get to everything.
06:02Mm-hmm.
06:02To get in the car.
06:04It is close, though.
06:04I mean, it's nice that you're so close to everything.
06:06I'm probably 12 minutes from your place.
06:09I know.
06:09It's not a big deal.
06:10My biggest thing was, like, my mom and dad host everything.
06:15Mm-hmm.
06:15And, like, my biggest goal was I wanted to have a big enough space so that if I wanted to,
06:20like, host our immediate family Christmas,
06:22everyone could come and everyone could just stay the night.
06:24So I wanted three bedrooms, and this one just happened to have four.
06:27Yeah.
06:28It is nice to be, like, just fucking peace and quiet sometimes.
06:32I'm just so happy you're here.
06:33I love it here.
06:34I mean, it's nice.
06:35I know there's people I talk to in there, and I was like, yeah, this will never work.
06:39Yeah.
06:39It's like, you know, literally, like, use the, like, analogy of, like, you know, freaking training for anything in life,
06:46right?
06:46That's going to take, like, a lot of hard work.
06:47You get to this point where it's like, fuck, if we would have met seven years ago or eight years
06:51ago, it just wouldn't have.
06:53Mm-mm.
06:54Maybe if we would have met six years from now, maybe it just wouldn't have matched up either.
06:56Right.
06:57Even a year ago, I was like, I didn't know if I would ever want to get married again.
07:01Yeah, I remember you saying that.
07:02Like, I didn't want to be in a serious relationship.
07:04It's just bizarre to me in both our lives how many things had to, like, fall into place for this
07:09to happen.
07:10And I'm so grateful for, like, what I have with you.
07:13Yeah, I said the same thing to you.
07:14I feel like every day at this point.
07:16I know.
07:16So.
07:19I love you.
07:20Love you.
07:21Yeah.
07:23Let your hands go.
07:36Let your hands go.
07:41Are you on a call?
07:43No, no, no. It's, uh, so the way this works is, like, once a quarter, um, Jerome Powell,
07:51the head of the Fed, he speaks on things, and those things cause ripples in the market that
07:56I trade in. How do you know, like, the meeting's going on? Oh, I check, like, all the time. Oh.
08:01There's, like, calendar support. Do you get, like, a Facebook invite? This is, like, my job at this
08:04point, so I'm, like, half listening to that because I kind of understand where it's headed.
08:07I have a meeting with my boss tomorrow, and he's very aware that I, like, want to move up
08:12in the company. Like, when do you want to, I guess, I guess, get out of Cleveland?
08:16Just depends on what he says. I feel like I've been, like, very up front of, like, me being more
08:20like of a nomad. I'm just, like, very concerned about, like, getting stuck in Cleveland.
08:24Yeah, I know. I just want to make sure we're on the same page. I'm not trying to trap you
08:27in
08:27Cleveland. I've been very open that I love warm weather. Yeah, yeah. I want to move somewhere
08:32warm. Because I did just get, um, like, the soccer coach just basically sending me a contract
08:37today. Okay. To kind of take a look at for Florida. I just don't have any ties to Florida,
08:41I guess. I also don't, in Arizona, but I love Arizona. Like, I could be swayed either
08:45way. Um, and Arizona's definitely still in the conversation, and I can definitely get
08:50a soccer job there as well as financial services. I've just had the contract kind of come my
08:54way for soccer in Florida already. Said politically, it does align with where I think we're both
08:59at, where we both stand. Great weather, great golf. It seems to be, obviously, great education
09:03as well for kids. So it does seem to kind of hit all of my boxes that I look for.
09:07What are
09:08your thoughts? I'm just, like, I don't know what else to say. Like, I'm, I'm going to
09:12talk to my boss tomorrow. It's been, like, we've been back for five minutes, and I'm still
09:17catching. And I've gotten a job, like, in that time period. Like, that's kind of my point.
09:21Like, it's one of those, like, I reach out and can do that very quickly. I'm just more
09:26worried on my, like, my end of not being able to, like, make that move happen. Um, if it's
09:31not something you're really able to do, because I, like, similar to you, do like to plan, but
09:36I am very fluid. Um, and I'm not fully certain, or like, I guess I'm having concerns that you're
09:42not able to be as fluid. Can I let you know more tomorrow? Absolutely. I feel like you're
09:48saying a lot with your eyes right now, but not really saying it with your words. I'm just
09:51listening. Well, I'm asking you what your thoughts are. I'm just listening to you. I'm, I've
09:55said what I can say at this point. I would like to talk to my boss. For sure. If there's
09:59any different opportunities, if there's opportunities in those states, I can take
10:02those as well. But, like, it just depends on, like, what's open. For sure. I mean, that
10:07makes sense. Um, I just want to, like, you feel like I've been as open with you as
10:11well, like, nomadically, correct? Yeah. Okay. I just wanted to make sure. Another thing I
10:16kind of wanted to bring up as well, um, I don't want to say off-putting. It's like, if I
10:20put stuff in the fridge in a way that I feel is neat and it does get rearranged, I feel
10:25like I'm not being a standard. Have I done that since the water? I haven't put anything in the
10:29fridge since the water. Okay. So it was one time and we've already had this
10:32conversation where I told you not to be offended by that and you said okay. I get
10:35it and I'm starting to think about it more. Okay. When I, like, fold clothes, um, I am
10:40basically wondering if I'm doing it right. You can fold your clothes however you
10:44want to fold them. But I don't want to be failing in the home life. If that's
10:48happening now, where is that gonna head later on into a marriage? I guess if we're
10:52airing out some things. Um, last night we had a very intimate date in the spa. We have our
10:57hands all over each other. We're literally rubbing mud on each other in
11:00the shower. For sure. And then we come home and you're like, I have to run out.
11:04I did not love that. I feel like I've initiated enough, especially in Cabo. Um, no,
11:11we didn't last night, but I mean. You're, are you being serious? Did I not come out of the
11:15bathroom in a certain way and just take you? Yeah, because I said I was horny. Okay, I've
11:19also done the same thing. Here? We haven't been intimate and you know physical touch is
11:24like very important to me. Then grab me and push me on the bed and let's go.
11:28You walked out the door. I mean at night. We like had a plan. At night. At night. You get
11:33into bed and
11:33you're on your phone. As are you. What are you talking about? No, I'm not. You were on the phone
11:37last night doing the
11:38exact same thing. Exact same thing. And if it's a problem, then let me know at night and we
11:43will absolutely have a great time. I mean, I'm not gonna like force you to if you don't
11:47want to. I would love to have, I've said that I love it when you just initiate like
11:51that. I just know like you said something in Cabo, like the physical
11:55connection wasn't there. So I'm like, no, I mean, I am attracted to you. I think what
12:03I was saying is you're not the type of girl that I normally go after, but I'm
12:08very attracted to you. I mean, I think that's been made clear. I'm also being
12:12aware of your period realistically and I don't want a kid right now. I kind of
12:20expected you to tell me that. Tell you what? That it's kind of passed. Like I'm
12:24not gonna track it. I'm not gonna get pregnant on my period. I know. It's the
12:31time right after it is what I understood, but I'm not the smartest when it comes to
12:36it. And it would be, I guess, nice to know when you're off of it. I'm not
12:40trying to trap you. I feel like you think I'm trying to trap you in Cleveland
12:44and with a child. Like, I don't want to have a kid either right now. Okay. I don't know
12:47what the tracking is at. I don't know how long. Evulation is usually like two
12:51weeks after my period. Okay. I don't know when your period ends. And I'm happy to have a
12:56shared tracker if that makes you feel better, but I don't know. It's not necessary. I will
12:59let you know when it starts, when it's done. That would, okay. Okay. Now I feel like
13:06you're like just pissed. I'm not. It's just like, it's frustrating because clearly I'm
13:12sexually frustrated. Why didn't you fuck me last night? Because you just left me. I was
13:17turned on and then when you leave me. When we were in bed, why didn't you fuck me last night?
13:20Because I was just like, meh. You like walked out. So I was like, okay. Okay. You can't
13:23just put that on me and then be like, whoa, whoa. It's my fault. It's not yours. It's probably
13:27equal at this point, but you can't just be like, oh, it's your fault that you didn't initiate
13:31again. Like, I don't really see how that's my fault. I'm just letting you know. I need a
13:39little bit more. Okay. I'm happy to provide it. Okay. I mean, are you satisfied when we do?
13:47Yeah, but we haven't since Mexico. Then I'm happy to provide it. Well, okay. Why? Are you off your
13:53period? Yeah. Okay. Then we can definitely do that. If I'm on my period, I'm plagued. No, but it's
14:01you put the pillow in between us. No, I don't. I have one pillow. I've initiated plenty throughout
14:06this whole process. I'm happy to continue to do so, but don't come at me now. It's like,
14:10I didn't even know what's the problem. No, I'm not. I came at you about the move. And the
14:14cleaning thing. I've talked to you. Have we not talked about that before? Yeah. You've been joking
14:18about it, but now it's like eating you alive, apparently. It's not just that. It's the clothes
14:22as well. I don't want to feel like I'm walking around on eggshells. We've done laundry once here. I get
14:26it.
14:28Like, I feel like I'm walking around on eggshells. Okay. Fold your towel however you want. Okay.
14:33But then you're going to go back and fold it again. No, I didn't even change it. I mean,
14:37it's really just the water bottles realistically, but it's... Oh my God. I feel like I'm not meeting.
14:41I just need to like get away for a sec because we're fighting over water bottles.
14:47fighting over water bottles. We're caught in the crossfire.
14:56We're caught in the crossfire.
15:14We're caught in the crossfire.
15:18We're caught in the crossfire.
15:18Come back out?
15:19Let me come out.
15:32I will work on things on my end. Trying not to be such a crazy person with cleaning. Trying
15:38to be more open about where I'm at in the month. Initiating more. I will see what I can do
15:47with my
15:47job and apply out to different companies. But I do love the company that I work for and they are
15:54normally very accommodating. So I would like to stay with them even if it causes like a small delay
15:59in our plans. And I hope you understand that. I absolutely understand that. When it comes to
16:05intimacy, I don't want a kid right now. I don't want a kid either. And I think I've made that
16:10very
16:10clear. I want to make sure that we have our adventures, we have our life together, and we have
16:14kids for the right reasons. I like when you touch me. I like your hands all over me. And like,
16:18I feel
16:19like I'm always touching you. And I don't want to like seem needy, I guess. When we are intimated,
16:25is fantastic. I will do more to initiate as well. But I think we're, I honestly think we're good in
16:32that category other than the four or five days that we haven't because of your period. You can still
16:39touch me on my period, just so you know. I don't know that necessarily. I was an accident, which
16:44changed my mom's life. I'm very good about tracking my cycle. I take it very seriously.
16:52I hope that you want this to work out. Yeah. I don't want you to just like run from me.
17:00Because you do have that lifestyle where you're constantly on the run. And I don't want you to
17:05get bored with me. I don't want you to be okay just like losing me either. I do want this
17:10to work.
17:12I'm willing to do the work. I'm not running away. I have a lot of self-confidence. I'm going to
17:16be okay.
17:16At the same time, I can understand how that comes off as like numb when it isn't.
17:23I'm ready to be in one spot and be in this type of relationship. So yeah, I mean, we're both
17:29freaked
17:30out. Like it's, it's. Remember when you weren't nervous? Yeah. I mean, I'm nervous about this for
17:35sure. Just kidding. For sure. Still confident. Do you want to have some fun? I meant,
17:42uh, do you want to go spend some time together?
17:48La, la, la. I think we're learning. La, la, la, la. Let's take a turn.
17:56Hard knock. You're the dog. So tonight, Jordan is meeting my brother.
18:00Hey man. Thank you.
18:02He wants what's best for me for sure. And he wants to make sure it's genuine.
18:06Did Amber tell you what she cooks? Uh, waffles. We had some last weekend.
18:10That you made homemade? Dude, you have not seen this thing yet.
18:14Did you see my badass waffle maker? That is pretty badass. Emma loves waffles.
18:18They're amazing. Are you, are you, do you cook a lot?
18:21I love to cook. So you consider yourself a good cook then?
18:23Like you top. I think, I think so. Yeah.
18:25So what, what do you think that you cook the best?
18:27I think I make really good burgers. Okay. Burgers. Gotcha.
18:31I just started doing homemade fries as well. We did chicken and waffles the other morning.
18:34Yeah, we did a little tag team, a little tag team action.
18:37She made some waffles, did some like fried chicken tenders.
18:40You did the chicken? They were good. Okay.
18:42Is this your notebook from the pods? Yeah.
18:44This is crazy, man. I thought for a long time that it would be good for you to find someone
18:48to be with.
18:50Um, I was always rooting for that. And you know, your last few relationships too were like shitty,
18:55so, with shitty boys, so, you know. Jacob and I both don't sugarcoat anything.
19:00I like that. As your brother, it's my duty to make sure that
19:04this was all serious, you know, and that the feelings were there.
19:09I'm like crazy about her. Yeah.
19:16Getting to know Amber, she's the only person I've ever met where I'm like,
19:19maybe I do want to have kids. I've never felt that about anybody, like until we really connected.
19:24And I was like, damn, like I could actually see that for my life, which is pretty wild, man.
19:31Okay. Emma's amazing, of course. I love Emma to death.
19:34She's a little spitfire, just like Amber is. What did you think of Matt, by the way?
19:38He was cool to me, but I really appreciated him coming and meeting me.
19:41Did you guys meet off camera? Yeah, off camera. We had like productive conversation.
19:45Like, I felt good leaving the conversation.
19:47I'm all for it, to support it. I hope this works out. That's all I'm saying. Like, I genuinely do.
19:51And I want, um, you know, the best for both of you guys. Thanks, man.
19:55We want a family. Yeah, come on.
19:59I'm looking for that family we never had.
20:18What can you point out in what you see here? I don't know. Is that a cat?
20:23That's Jill. Yeah, that's Jill. Jill the cat. So we got a man and a woman, top pot and a
20:27pipe.
20:27He's in deep thought. Oh, she's reading. Or she's reading.
20:32Mm-hmm. Is this you in the pods? Yeah. Me sitting with my blanket.
20:38I don't know what's happening here. Where at?
20:40A leg. It looks inappropriate, actually.
20:42A leg. Oh, I don't think. He's seducing you.
20:45Cover your eyes. Cover your eyes.
20:47It's a little sailboat. You ever went kayaking or anything like that?
20:51Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
20:52We're going to teach you how to swim before we do all that.
20:55I just throw in a life vest. What you mean? Oh, you come save me.
20:58My sisters make fun of me about that sometimes.
21:00What, nothing about the swims? Yeah.
21:01Yeah, we could work on that. Yeah.
21:02We got to learn before we have kids. Yeah.
21:05We're kind of set on two-year window before...
21:09What, family? Looking at house and family.
21:11Yeah. Yeah.
21:13What point would be too late for you?
21:15Because, you know, you're older than you.
21:18Yeah, I know. I know. Probably a little bit. A little bit.
21:21Yeah, only a little bit. I mean, I just want to be able to run around with the kids.
21:24You know, both of our moms are aging.
21:26You know, like, I do kind of have, like, a fear...
21:29Yeah. ...I guess, of what if my mom's not able to meet my kids.
21:33But it's not something that's making me have kids now.
21:36Right now. Yeah.
21:37Yeah. We'd have a biracial child, essentially.
21:39Is there any thoughts you may have had around that or...?
21:44You know, I grew up very rural.
21:46And I love my hometown and I love my experience, but I don't want them to necessarily be in that
21:52small fishbowl, like, that I grew up with in high school.
21:55Okay.
21:55You know, and I want them to see other people that look like them and...
21:58Yeah. Um...
22:00I can see us, like, raising a family here and finding those communities where our kids are exposed to, like,
22:05different foods and just a range of kids from different walks of life sort of things.
22:09Yeah.
22:09I'm thinking of my own upbringing in some ways growing up in Brooklyn.
22:13And I think it's similar to other cities in some ways as a black young man.
22:17And just understanding that everything isn't always, um, what's the word, set up fairly.
22:25I remember back in the pod telling you about, like, the cops and pulling up the guns on us as
22:30kids and the whole nine.
22:31And it's like, oh, yeah, because they sometimes can see black bodies as more, like, adult-like or threatening and
22:37things like that in certain interactions.
22:38So I think some candid conversations about, like, the history of our country, um, and just kind of educating our
22:45kids, not from a place of, like, victimhood per se,
22:48but more so just understanding that the world isn't colorblind.
22:53And I think it'll just help them be prepared to just navigate life a lot easier in some ways.
22:58Mm-hmm.
22:58Yeah.
23:00So any, like, direct fear with me, like, having a white woman as the mother of your children?
23:05No.
23:06No.
23:07There's no direct fear there.
23:08Okay.
23:09I have a lot to learn from you and...
23:11Vice versa.
23:12Yeah.
23:13It's funny.
23:13When you talk about, like, biracial children, you'll hear narratives of them never feeling like they have a home,
23:19especially black, white, interracial kids.
23:21Like, I don't fit this, but I don't really fit this, and I'm kind of in this gray.
23:25Yeah.
23:25Yeah.
23:26That, I think, will be some, like, learning we both have to do.
23:29Yeah, because it's going to be something new for both of us.
23:30Yeah.
23:31Yeah.
23:31Yeah.
23:32I think we'll come at it as a team.
23:34I know we will.
23:35I think the only thing that I have, and it's not a fear, I don't know what the right word
23:38would be,
23:38but, like, that reminder that I'm not going to be able to understand or to relate 100% with my
23:47own kid
23:48with something is a big deal.
23:51Yeah.
23:52You know, and I just want to make sure that we're able to move over that right.
23:56And it's a love for your kid thing.
23:57It's a, it's not necessarily a racial thing.
24:00You know, it's like a bonding love for your kid thing.
24:02And...
24:02Yeah.
24:04Yeah.
24:04And I know you're a well of love, so I have no doubt.
24:07Yeah.
24:07Yeah.
24:08No doubt at all.
24:08Yeah.
24:09Yeah.
24:10And our families, too.
24:11Yeah.
24:12Yeah.
24:13Mm-hmm.
24:13It's going to be fun.
24:14Yeah.
24:15I like my view right now.
24:17Yeah.
24:17You got all the flowers behind your head.
24:19Oh, do I?
24:22See up your nose.
24:23Oh, yeah?
24:23Mm-hmm.
24:24I got anything.
24:24Mm-hmm.
24:26I mean, let me just throw it away.
24:29I love you.
24:30Oh, baby.
24:31I love you, too.
24:33The geese right on cue.
24:35They're going to attack somebody.
24:36Right here.
24:44Let's do it.
24:48Do we take the shoes off?
24:50Um, we don't have to.
24:52Today, Devontae is meeting my parents, my younger brother,
24:57and his wife.
24:58I haven't brought somebody home in 10 years.
25:04And I'm feeling very excited to show them the man that I fell in love with.
25:10Hello.
25:11Marco.
25:11I was going to say it so much.
25:16Bro, sheesh.
25:18He picked it out.
25:19All by myself.
25:20I need some sunglasses.
25:22I feel like when you showed me, like, your inspiration picture.
25:25Hold on.
25:26Yeah.
25:27Wait, let me see what this is.
25:28Did you ever?
25:29Oh, my gosh.
25:29You're a loan officer, right?
25:31Yeah.
25:31Getting back in town, were you just, like, inundated?
25:34Yeah.
25:35I had, like, 900 texts, 1,000 emails.
25:38When I came back and had over 700 text messages, that gave me a lot of anxiety.
25:43You had that many friends?
25:47I had a sister, too.
25:48I did the same thing.
25:50How many siblings do you have?
25:51I have five.
25:52Five?
25:53Yeah.
25:53My mom had five boys and one girl.
25:55Wow.
25:56Where are you in that?
25:57I have an older brother than myself, then my younger brother, and then I have twin brothers,
26:01and then my sister's the youngest.
26:03I know we have a chance for twins.
26:05Twins.
26:05Yeah.
26:06So that's what we're doing.
26:07Yet another question.
26:09Are you saying you want twins?
26:11Yeah, but that's a lot of diapers and crying all at once.
26:13That's okay.
26:14He's gonna help me.
26:15So, are you hungry?
26:17Always hungry.
26:24How's the apartment?
26:25It's really nice.
26:26Like, the way that we keep the apartment.
26:29I don't even have to, like, tell him things.
26:31Like, he just naturally does things.
26:34Like, even something stupid.
26:35Like, he pulled something out of the microwave before the time was up, but he cleared it to
26:42make sure the clock was on.
26:43And I was like,
26:45like, what?
26:48Yes.
26:48Like, did the laundry, folded it, and put it away.
26:52Cooks from, like, I'm telling you, he's, yeah, because, listen, number one prayer request.
26:57Jesus, please, because we can't starve.
26:59She's been saying that for years.
27:00She said, my husband needs to cook or we're both gonna starve.
27:04I don't believe it.
27:10Okay, so how was the reveal?
27:12Like, you're just sitting there like, oh my god, am I gonna die?
27:15Am I gonna pass out?
27:16Like, is he gonna be cute?
27:18Is he gonna think I'm cute?
27:19What is about to happen right now?
27:20I was sweating, for sure.
27:22Yeah, he was.
27:24I was, like, amazed because his eyes and then the freckles, like, I was not,
27:29and I wasn't expecting him to be, like, such a big, like, man.
27:32I was like, oh, I kind of like that.
27:37Your eyes were, like, this, like, glassy blue.
27:40And he's like, okay, I'm gonna have really pretty babies one day.
27:45Distracted you from the sweat.
27:48Can't miss that.
27:51When did you realize, wow, she's touching my heart?
27:54My grandfather was a reverend.
27:56He had his own church.
27:58So I've always said, like, you know, that's the person that I want to, like, model my life after.
28:02I just want to be able to give back.
28:03And that's really where we, like, connected deep on.
28:06Like, she's really a giver.
28:08Yeah.
28:08She wants to take care of her people.
28:10He's very intentional with his words, with how he carries himself.
28:15Does that make you feel secure?
28:17Mm-hmm.
28:17My father, like, wasn't in my life.
28:19So I want to, you know, do the opposite.
28:21That's why I want to be a father.
28:23That's why I want to be a husband.
28:24I was like, I, you know, had a broken household, like, growing up.
28:27So when I'm making this a life decision, I need to make sure it's, like, the right decision.
28:33Yeah, I'm only getting married once.
28:35So it's like, we're going to be.
28:36I am so glad to hear you say that.
28:39You know, with us, the word divorce, like, we literally early on said,
28:44you can never, ever use that word.
28:46Yeah.
28:47It's not an option.
28:49We're going to grow.
28:50Right.
28:50We're going to learn.
28:51And we're going to love each other.
28:53And we're going to champion each other.
28:54Yeah.
28:55And this is it.
28:57So, and like, okay, my mom died last year.
29:08And at the funeral, my dad said, I promised her till death do us part.
29:14And I kept my vow.
29:17He meant that.
29:19And he did that.
29:21And I'm going to do that.
29:23And my boys are going to do that.
29:25That it is the richest life you'll have.
29:28You know?
29:29Absolutely.
29:29And so many people just cast it away.
29:32And I'm sorry I'm being emotional.
29:33No.
29:34I'm sorry for your loss, too.
29:37It's my baby.
29:37Yeah.
29:38Can I just say, though, you guys would probably agree with me.
29:40I have never seen this girl.
29:41So, she's glowing.
29:43She's so giddy.
29:45The seven years that I've been with Seth, I've like, I've never seen you this way.
29:49And I was like, I know if Britney said yes to an engagement, I'm like, this man had to have
29:54been,
29:54like, he had to have been something special.
29:56So, I'm just, I'm so happy for both of you.
30:00Yeah.
30:01Well, it's been good.
30:02Do you guys want to move to the family room?
30:04Yeah.
30:04Yeah, let's do it.
30:05Actually, I want to go upstairs if we can.
30:07Yeah.
30:08Good luck.
30:10You still love me in an hour.
30:13So, I wanted to show you this picture.
30:17This is at my Uncle Keith's wedding, Britney and Kayla.
30:20Oh.
30:21She was born two weeks early, and my life was forever changed.
30:26She was itty bitty.
30:27I have spent more than half of my life caring for her.
30:32Yeah.
30:33And to hand over those reigns to you is major.
30:40Do you feel like you're pretty smitten?
30:42Yeah.
30:43Do you feel like when you get to that altar, are there any reservations that would make you go,
30:49Hmm.
30:51I don't think so.
30:52You've covered ground that most people don't get to.
30:56I mean, even some people, they are married 10, 15 years.
30:58Any questions that are unanswered are, and this is obvious, the ones that you don't face.
31:04Right.
31:04And you don't ask.
31:05Yep.
31:06So, ask the questions.
31:08Yeah.
31:09And have clarity.
31:10Yep.
31:11I know her.
31:12I've never seen her more moved by any person on earth
31:18than I've seen her with you.
31:20I trust you.
31:21To the point I'm almost about to ask you, will you marry my daughter?
31:30Get ready for a wedding and get married.
31:34We love strong.
31:35We love hard.
31:37And welcome, brother.
31:38I'm glad to be here.
31:39It feels normal.
31:41Like, it doesn't feel like we missed a beat.
31:43So, I'm excited.
31:45Honestly, I wish the wedding was tomorrow.
31:47Because if you made the decision, and you said she's the one, or he's the one,
31:52you've made the decision.
31:54I mean, that's really what this comes down to.
31:56I want to be with you forever.
31:58And if there's any hesitation, it would be here now.
32:01You will be my son.
32:04Yeah.
32:04We don't call in-laws.
32:06We call it in-laws.
32:07Yeah.
32:09Do you still love me?
32:16Are you meme-mugging?
32:17Right.
32:19It got difficult.
32:20Oh, you're so full of it.
32:22Is that waiting?
32:25What?
32:27What are you acting over here?
32:30Why are you acting making serious?
32:32You guys had the whole thing planned.
32:34Did we get you?
32:35I was like, wait a second.
32:36He's walking outside.
32:40It didn't work.
32:51Okay, are you ready?
32:53Yeah.
33:00I got to get in the door.
33:03Okay.
33:03Wait, is there coming off?
33:05Okay, sorry.
33:06I didn't know this.
33:07Okay, stop it.
33:09Okay, not Breezy.
33:11Is that not Breezy?
33:12Oh my gosh.
33:13Welcome to my house.
33:14I forget.
33:14We're saying hello to my mom.
33:15Yeah, this is my pass.
33:16Welcome to my house.
33:17It is definitely a bachelorette pass.
33:20So, we just came from a frat house.
33:23Oh, I can't wait to hear all about that.
33:25Oh, mother.
33:26You'll hear about it.
33:27It was fun.
33:32Okay, so talk to me about this process.
33:35I met Connor and I was like, hi, I'm Breezy.
33:38And I was like, I'm 33 years old.
33:39I'm from Grand Rapids, Michigan.
33:40And immediately just went.
33:42I was like, stop it.
33:43It's like out of control chaos.
33:44Stop it.
33:45And then I was like, my mom's from Grand Rapids.
33:47And then my dad's from Minneapolis.
33:48She's like.
33:49And the fact she lived in Minneapolis too.
33:50Right.
33:51Like it was just kind of like crazy how many connections.
33:53Like with Michigan.
33:54And the whole Wolverine thing is like huge.
33:57I know.
33:58Mom, I was like, that's it folks.
34:00Like pack her bags.
34:00She's out of here.
34:01She found her husband.
34:02It gave me a sense of like, I'm right where I'm supposed to be.
34:05It started just turning in from coincidence to kind of like fate.
34:09Everything we talked about when it comes to like deeper emotional stuff,
34:12I haven't always been like as vulnerable as I think I've ever liked.
34:14Well, that's a big piece of this whole process.
34:16If you let me be me, like I'm going to like go to the end of the earth for you.
34:21I can honestly say that he knows everything.
34:24Mm-hmm.
34:25Yeah.
34:25Everything.
34:26You've seen all the sides.
34:27He's seen a lot of sides to me.
34:28And you're not scared.
34:29You're not running away.
34:29That's the thing.
34:30I'm going to be here no matter what.
34:31I've been pausing to appreciate the way Connor's been showing up.
34:34Because I don't think I give you enough credit.
34:37But like, I have to teach him some things around.
34:40Like I was like, he threw all of his stuff in a suitcase.
34:42I said, can I refold that for you?
34:44Can I repack that?
34:45Do you even have a dirty clothes bag?
34:46Mom, we're baby stepping.
34:49He said he's malleable.
34:51So I said, okay, we'll see how flexible this man is.
34:54If one of your gripes with me is that my shirts are inside out after I wash them.
34:58You can handle it.
34:59I'm good with that.
35:00You're good.
35:00This is true.
35:01Okay, can I just talk to her for just a few minutes?
35:04Of course.
35:06Okay, so talk to me.
35:07He's so cute.
35:08Like he's just the way he like loves me.
35:11I can see that.
35:13I can see that.
35:14He loves me.
35:14He's into you.
35:15He loves me.
35:16And I like, makes me like love him even more.
35:19I think he's a great guy.
35:21I trust your judgment.
35:23I know.
35:23Dad will probably question more things.
35:26Yes.
35:26But it's ultimately your decision.
35:28Even today when we go and see each other's faces, it's like we are opposite.
35:31Okay, wait.
35:32Without him being here.
35:33What?
35:33Disaster zone.
35:34Frat house.
35:35There was a keg.
35:36There was a Christmas tree.
35:37What?
35:38I said, Connor.
35:39Yikes.
35:39This is not happening at my house.
35:41And I was like.
35:41How was he receptive to that?
35:43I mean, he had to come here and go.
35:44No, but that's why he's like, Bri, like I wouldn't do this.
35:47Like I, if I was with you, like I just don't want anyone to push me or like motivate me.
35:53I'm a self-motivated person.
35:54He does push me and expand me like emotionally.
35:57And then I'm like, but I've always, it's crazy.
35:59Like, you know, like I've always been like very like go-getter, 100 miles an hour,
36:04doing all the things.
36:05And it's like, do you feel that he will have the same drive as you?
36:11Do you feel he has?
36:12And is that important?
36:12Like, I don't know.
36:13Do I need someone to match me?
36:15Do I need someone that's even more than me?
36:17Like, or does he support me in other ways that are also important that makes this all work?
36:22Right.
36:22It's really insane.
36:24I don't know how to say it.
36:25Like, this man knows me just like you know me.
36:28Okay.
36:28And you're my mother.
36:29I don't need the validation, but like you guys are my life.
36:34And I think I need a little bit more confidence before I bring in dad.
36:39Yeah.
36:40Dad's going to be a tough one.
36:41He's back, folks.
36:43Wait, I heard there was a keg in the, in the house.
36:45Yeah, there was.
36:46That's from New Year's.
36:47Excuse me?
36:48Okay, then.
36:48What?
36:49How many months ago was that?
36:50Let me see.
36:50Mom, the Christmas tree was up.
36:52He said, I was waiting for you to come to take it down with me.
36:55I said, aw.
36:55I thought it was going to be depressing taking it down myself.
36:57It was a, is it what?
36:58You're saying, aw.
37:00He was waiting for me to take it down.
37:01No, I.
37:02It's Easter.
37:03No, I'm, I'm saying, aw.
37:04JC's about to rise again.
37:06We also thought it was depressing taking it down alone.
37:08So, grandma dying used to keep the tree up until Valentine's Day.
37:11Just saying.
37:11So, I guess you're taking him home.
37:13You're taking after.
37:14Yeah.
37:15Coincidence.
37:16B.S.
37:16There was a keg.
37:17He's such a boy.
37:18He's just a boy.
37:19Just a normal guy.
37:20Everything about him is a boy.
37:22Oh, yeah.
37:23He's a man.
37:24I'm just a normal guy from Ohio.
37:25He's a man.
37:26Also, he, I actually, like, weirdly attracted to mustaches.
37:29And he's like, Bri, I can, like, shave this into a mustache.
37:31I wasn't going to do it before meeting you, though.
37:33Isn't that tickly and prickly?
37:36Jamie.
37:36Yeah, I'm sure you smooched.
37:38Come on.
37:48Hi.
37:49Hi.
37:50Hi.
37:50Nice to meet you.
37:51Emma, nice to meet you.
37:53It's so nice to meet you.
37:55Hi, Emma.
37:55Hi.
37:56Nice to meet you.
37:57How's it cool?
37:58I know how my family is.
37:59They can be a little sporadic, a little, you know, spontaneous.
38:04I hope Emma fits in well with the family.
38:07I'm a little nervous on that.
38:09When you told us you had gotten engaged.
38:13Of course, your mother cried for, like, two days.
38:15I cried.
38:16I was very upset.
38:17And I was upset because I didn't get to meet you.
38:19And this isn't the way I wanted it for my son.
38:23To be honest with any of my children,
38:24it's not the way I wanted it, to be honest with you.
38:25I don't understand how you came to this point that you just love each other.
38:32You say you love each other?
38:33Have you said we love each other?
38:35We have said we love each other.
38:35Okay.
38:36So it's such a short time.
38:38We talk about a lot.
38:41It's very hard for people on the outside to understand how much crap we talked about
38:47in terms of religion, in terms of just trust, sex,
38:53education, finances, everything.
38:55I feel like she knows everything about me.
38:57Shit you guys don't even know.
38:58Okay.
38:59Your past boyfriends, were they, like, Italian?
39:03Okay, so actually...
39:05Well, listen, you know what I mean?
39:07You have to know what you're getting into.
39:07You've got to know what you're getting into.
39:09Yeah, no.
39:09There's different cultures.
39:10That's what I'm saying.
39:11I mean, you know.
39:12My ex was actually Italian, so he had a really big family, so...
39:15Well, you were growing up with Sunday dinners and, you know.
39:18I know.
39:18Yeah.
39:19Do you like to cook?
39:20I love to cook, and right now it's just me.
39:23So I'm, like, literally cooking a recipe of eight people for myself.
39:27So I'm excited to have someone to eat with me.
39:30But yeah, I love to, like, cook spaghetti sauce.
39:34I'm really nervous to cook that in front of him, but...
39:37She said sauce.
39:38It's gravy, but...
39:39Yeah.
39:39No, but there is...
39:40And sauce to us is marinara sauce.
39:42Yeah.
39:42So, and gravy is with meat.
39:44Oh.
39:45And we don't say calamari.
39:46We say galamad.
39:48You want to see what I taught her?
39:49Go ahead, say it.
39:51What?
39:52He's trying to...
39:53He's trying to train me into saying quaffee.
39:55Quaffee.
39:55Quaffee.
39:56Quaffee.
39:57Quaffee.
39:57Go ahead, say quaffee.
39:58Coffee.
39:59Coffee.
39:59Coffee.
39:59Coffee.
40:00Like, can I get something?
40:00Like, we're out of coffee.
40:01For us, it's quaffee.
40:02Yeah, yeah, quaffee.
40:04So, going forward, have you guys discussed grandchildren and stuff like that?
40:10Children, yeah.
40:10Yeah.
40:11You both want children, right?
40:13So, for me, I am on the fence.
40:21Okay.
40:22I am not 100% yes, but I'm not 100% no.
40:25And...
40:25I knew that in the pods.
40:26Yes.
40:27We talked about that.
40:27For me, I want to find that stability, that security, and that partnership, and the communication
40:34to be able to confidently say yes.
40:36I personally just need more time, but I know he really, really wants kids, and I am being
40:42open-minded about that.
40:44I told him in the end, I was like, I want it to be you at the end of the
40:47aisle.
40:47I see you out of this experiment.
40:50Like...
40:51But if you see that, how could you say you're not sure about having children?
40:56That I'm having a hard time with, to be honest with you right now.
40:58Just be open-minded, okay?
40:59Yeah, but what happens if you just get married, and all of a sudden, six months from now,
41:03she says, okay, I don't want to have kids, and you're already married.
41:06I understand.
41:07No offense, honey.
41:08No, no, no.
41:09Please.
41:09I'm just speaking out.
41:11I'm sorry.
41:11I don't want you to feel like I'm attacking you.
41:13No, my family has all these questions, and these are important questions.
41:16Like, I knew coming in here that this was going to be a point of conversation.
41:19Okay.
41:20I know you guys want grandchildren, but I can't sit here and be like,
41:25yes, I am going to have kids with you.
41:28I don't want you to.
41:28Yes.
41:29Because again...
41:30So, but like, all of your questions are so valid, and I do not feel attacked.
41:34Yeah.
41:34Obviously, it's up to you guys, and you have to work out your own issues,
41:37but like, we grew up where we went on vacations with our cousins.
41:41I know.
41:41We had sleepovers, and we were, you know, and I, I personally want that for when we have kids.
41:46Yeah.
41:46And both your parents are Asian?
41:48So, no, I'm actually adopted.
41:50Oh, so you're...
41:51So, my family is white.
41:53My parents are white.
41:54My sisters are white.
41:57I'm the only adopted one in the family.
41:59You were adopted when you were a baby?
42:01I was three years old when I was adopted.
42:03Oh, okay.
42:03So, I spent the three years in an orphanage, and then they, they chose me.
42:09Where were you adopted from?
42:10China.
42:11Yeah.
42:11Oh, from China?
42:12Yeah.
42:12Very nice.
42:13So, you're Chinese.
42:14Yeah.
42:14You have a Chinese ancestry.
42:15Okay.
42:16Yeah.
42:16Mm-hmm.
42:16Okay.
42:17I don't know really anything about, like, my family, my background.
42:19That's something we've been talking to about kids.
42:22It's like, I...
42:23Oh, that's, yeah.
42:23That's important.
42:24I don't know medical history.
42:26I actually had huge birthmarks all over my body, um, that were pretty cancerous.
42:31So, I had about eight surgeries before I was nine years old to get them removed.
42:36So, I don't know if my parents had that.
42:39I don't know if my child's gonna pass that down.
42:41So, there's a lot of fears of...
42:44So, that's why you're on the fence 50-50.
42:46Yes.
42:46Part of the reason, yeah.
42:48Selfishly, I don't want my children to have to go through that.
42:52Absolutely.
42:53We talked about that in the pods, and something that stuck out to me that Mike said was, like,
42:57your burdens are our burdens, and, like, we can get through this together.
43:00And that really stuck out to me that, like, I can tell him anything, and I can tell him these
43:05fears,
43:05and, like, I know he will be with me.
43:08Marriage is serious.
43:09You can't break up six months from now after you get married.
43:12That's my concern.
43:14There is no divorce.
43:15I...
43:15We've talked about that.
43:17It's your life.
43:20What...
43:20And your brothers and sisters want us for you to be happy in life.
43:25I know.
43:26This is the one, then this is the one.
43:30We'll accept her into the family, like she's one of our own.
43:33I know.
43:35When you're together with someone for a long time, and you work things through,
43:41that's what makes a family.
43:43Yeah.
43:47So I just hope you two understand that going forward.
43:50Mm-hmm.
43:51Yeah.
43:52I'm hopeful, and I'm excited about Mike.
43:55I'm excited about our future, um, and I wouldn't be...
43:58I wouldn't be doing this and putting anyone through this if I was someone who was not this.
44:03Mm-hmm.
44:03Okay.
44:04I appreciate you telling us and being honest.
44:07Emma, I think, is absolutely beautiful.
44:09She would blend beautifully with our family.
44:12I see the commonality in both of them, and why they attracted to each other.
44:18She'd be a good addition to the family.
44:20Yeah.
44:20You know, we'd open up our arms to her.
44:23You seem like a lovely girl.
44:24Uh-huh.
44:25Beautiful.
44:26Beautiful.
44:27Keep working at it, and you guys will find your way, you know?
44:31I guess meeting someone through a blind door...
44:34Yeah.
44:37I'm coming for the long run.
44:39If it's not you, then it's not always you.
44:59Hello.
45:05How's your day?
45:10It's productive.
45:11Yeah, how so?
45:14Yeah, just a lot of stuff going on.
45:15Just being back and trying to get my life back on track with scheduling and everything.
45:22Where'd you go last night?
45:24Where'd I go last night?
45:26Cranville.
45:28If you had called for two minutes and been like, hey, like, I just really feel like I need to
45:32like,
45:32see my friend and like, fucking decompress and talk and I'm going to stay at my place tonight.
45:37I wouldn't have felt nearly as bad as I felt today.
45:41Okay.
45:42Instead of getting a text being like, I'm getting a drink with your friend, I'm staying down here.
45:45And like, that was it.
45:47Like, I don't need to be in constant communication.
45:49Nor do I.
45:50Oh, but I'm your fiance.
45:51I understand.
45:52It's only been 48 hours.
45:54If you need time to like, decompress and think and whatever, I think that it's important to communicate that.
45:59I told you that when we, when I left.
46:03Yeah, you said it would be great if we could have like, a 13 hour break.
46:07I never said 13 hours.
46:08I wouldn't make that up.
46:10I just thought it was weird.
46:10I said 13 hours.
46:11Yes.
46:12Okay.
46:13I only remember it because it was weird.
46:15I don't remember saying 13 hours, but okay.
46:18When I communicate, it doesn't need to be like this thing where it's like, constantly going,
46:24I guess, really for the two days.
46:26Not for me either.
46:27Okay.
46:28Yeah.
46:29But if I say.
46:30What are you making it sound?
46:31I felt like.
46:31I sent you one text today saying that and saying that I love you and you didn't say anything back
46:37all day.
46:39That's a very vast difference from being in constant communication with someone.
46:46I feel like a lot of my life, I wasn't as direct as I need to be.
46:53Do you think we have a good physical connection?
46:56I do.
46:57Do you not?
46:58I feel like it's super important like to have that.
47:00Mm-hmm.
47:02And I just like, I want to like try and like give it everything I can.
47:10I don't know.
47:11I'm trying to like pick my words carefully.
47:13Mm-hmm.
47:13I want to just let's start off with this.
47:16I do want to like see this whole thing through.
47:18Okay.
47:21Because like we got engaged for a reason.
47:23We had such a great connection.
47:25Mm-hmm.
47:27And like it was real.
47:28Mm-hmm.
47:32I didn't know what you looked like and like for me like just to be totally honest and like without
47:38sounding like a fucking dickhead.
47:39I don't know how to say it.
47:41Like in the normal world like I date people who like fucking do like fucking crossfit and
47:45shit.
47:46Mm-hmm.
47:47So like I'm trying to like I don't know somebody who like works out all the time and like has
47:54like a
47:55a different type of I don't know.
47:59A different type of like body?
48:02It's just like somebody who does fucking like Pilates every day or like someone who's like working out every day.
48:09In those situations it's hard for me to be like physically like in that moment like into it.
48:24I just don't know if it's like there for me.
48:54Here comes the madness, here comes the madness, it's coming for you, it's coming for you, it's coming, here comes
49:09the madness.
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