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Age of Attraction - Season 1 - Episode 03: He's The Same Age As My Parents
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00:00:15I really don't know if you're ready for this one.
00:00:17You ready?
00:00:21I'm 16.
00:00:22Yeah.
00:00:26Then you have it.
00:00:30You might want to think about that one for a second.
00:00:32Oh, my gosh.
00:00:35Yes, you might want to think about that one.
00:00:36He looks so young.
00:00:40What?
00:00:41Does it affect you?
00:00:47It's very shocking.
00:00:50I literally thought you were, like, oldest, like, 47 or something.
00:00:56Yeah.
00:00:57Wow.
00:00:58Does it scare you?
00:01:02I feel like, if I'm being really honest, like, maybe I was meant to come here to meet someone
00:01:10like you.
00:01:12I honestly haven't felt like this with anyone before.
00:01:16I love that.
00:01:17Can I just kiss you?
00:01:19Yes, baby.
00:01:24You're so handsome.
00:01:26You're beautiful.
00:01:31Damn.
00:01:32Thanks, man.
00:01:33Well, how do you feel now knowing each other's ages?
00:01:36Yes.
00:01:36I'm shocked, but it doesn't mean anything.
00:01:41It's even more, it shows what I've always thought.
00:01:44You know what I mean?
00:01:46Like, you are a dope human being to me.
00:01:49You know?
00:01:50I'm going to be in your life.
00:01:51That's for sure.
00:01:51I know that.
00:01:53You're so beautiful.
00:01:53Let me get on.
00:01:55Come on, this is my baby.
00:01:58It doesn't work.
00:02:04We're going to do this?
00:02:05Mm-hmm.
00:02:06You're going to show them what a real connection is?
00:02:07Mm-hmm.
00:02:08All right.
00:02:10Come on.
00:02:11I want to fall with you.
00:02:1727, wow.
00:02:20A lot of different thoughts.
00:02:22The touch of your body.
00:02:29I've been excited about a relationship in a while.
00:02:31I've been excited about getting to know someone like this in a while.
00:02:34It's nice.
00:02:35It's really nice.
00:02:38I was very worried about telling her my age.
00:02:41And I was ready for her to say, hey, that don't work for me.
00:02:45And if it didn't, I understood that.
00:02:48I'm sure her family and my family are going to be like, what the hell is going on?
00:02:52But I don't care what no one thinks.
00:02:54Like, we have a connection.
00:02:55So, it is what it is.
00:02:57Connection is connection.
00:02:58Period.
00:02:59I think you may be the one, but I haven't told you yet.
00:03:05I am falling in love with him.
00:03:11That's just so scary to say.
00:03:14He's 60.
00:03:17Oh, my gosh.
00:03:19I think it's like 30, 40, 50.
00:03:23No.
00:03:2440, 50, 60.
00:03:26Yeah, 33.
00:03:27He's 33 years older than me.
00:03:34Oh, my Lanta.
00:03:36Wow.
00:03:38Jorge's literally the same age as my parents.
00:03:43Oh, my gosh.
00:03:47When I explain this to my family, they won't understand.
00:03:51But I think over time, as they see how serious I am about him and how well he treats me,
00:03:58they'll grow to love him.
00:04:05I think you might be the one to keep you closer.
00:04:14I want to fall with you.
00:04:27You guys are in for a real treat.
00:04:29First game ever.
00:04:32Oh, my God.
00:04:33Okay, okay, okay.
00:04:34We're going to figure this out.
00:04:35Okay, I'm good.
00:04:36I'm good for it.
00:04:39Bro.
00:04:40You got it.
00:04:41I'm not good for it.
00:04:42Okay.
00:04:43Back up a little bit.
00:04:45Oh, my God.
00:04:48This is for elderly people.
00:04:49I said anybody can play this game.
00:04:52The more time that I'm spending with Derek, I just know that this is who I want to spend my
00:04:57time with here.
00:04:58We have similar interests.
00:04:59We have similar life goals.
00:05:01And, I mean, he's, like, a model.
00:05:04He's gorgeous.
00:05:05There's no question about that.
00:05:07He is the total package from what I've seen so far.
00:05:10I'm falling.
00:05:11I'm falling.
00:05:12I'm falling.
00:05:13I'm straight down to another.
00:05:16With Pfeiffer, the connection's been so genuine and authentic.
00:05:20So, I feel now Pfeiffer needs to know about my kids because I see the potential.
00:05:24So, she needs to know the most important part of my life now because we would actually be merging it
00:05:29together.
00:05:31I'm so happy that you picked me to be your devil's partner over today.
00:05:35I feel like I've been having a good time with you.
00:05:38We've been having a good time.
00:05:38We have a good connection.
00:05:39I agree.
00:05:41And I did want to talk to you because we haven't really talked about, like, my personal life.
00:05:44Right.
00:05:44Up to this point, just been getting to know you.
00:05:47So, I have two boys.
00:05:48Okay.
00:05:50So, I'm on daddy mode.
00:05:52Okay.
00:05:53You know, a lot.
00:05:53Like, that's extremely important to me.
00:05:56So, obviously, dating me.
00:05:58Right.
00:05:58That's a part of it.
00:05:59You know, if you're willing to accept that.
00:06:01Do you want to have more kids?
00:06:03Absolutely.
00:06:03Because that's big for me.
00:06:04Like, I know I want kids.
00:06:05Yeah, no, completely out.
00:06:07Okay, okay.
00:06:08Because that was the one thing I was like, it is a deal breaker.
00:06:10Like, I, like, want kids.
00:06:12Yeah.
00:06:12100%.
00:06:13Absolutely.
00:06:13But, yeah, I mean, I think that's great.
00:06:16Yeah.
00:06:16I, like, don't see any reason why that would be an issue.
00:06:19It's amazing.
00:06:21No, I think that's great.
00:06:22I thought that Derek was probably in his mid-30s before finding out that he had children.
00:06:27Now, I don't know.
00:06:28He could still be in his mid-30s.
00:06:30People can have kids early when they're young.
00:06:32People can have kids late.
00:06:33I don't care.
00:06:34At the end of the day, what matters is that I don't care.
00:06:35That we have this connection.
00:06:37And every time I see him, I mean, it just gets better.
00:06:40How is that, like, like, I guess, being a parent?
00:06:45It definitely changes you.
00:06:46Right, I'm sure.
00:06:47And everyone, like, says that.
00:06:49But until you have it, like, so when you don't have them, it's like, damn, I miss my kids.
00:06:55My parents got divorced when I was, like, a baby.
00:06:58Like, very young.
00:06:59And she was, like, very career focused.
00:07:02Which is, like, totally fine.
00:07:03Right.
00:07:04But I grew up with just my dad.
00:07:05I think was rough at times.
00:07:06Just because I'm an only child growing up just with my dad.
00:07:10So it's like, yeah, while it does suck, it kind of taught me, like, I know what I value.
00:07:15Yeah.
00:07:16And, like, I know I want to be a mom, so.
00:07:18Absolutely.
00:07:19Yeah.
00:07:19I grew up with my dad, too, so.
00:07:21Okay.
00:07:21Yeah.
00:07:22So he was on it, like, you know, like, military.
00:07:25It's tough.
00:07:26So.
00:07:26Strict dads are tough.
00:07:27Yeah.
00:07:28Well, similar.
00:07:29Yeah.
00:07:30Everything that I was nervous about is out.
00:07:32No one ever on the same page.
00:07:34And I just think she truly is potentially a life partner.
00:07:49Tell me something else.
00:07:50Sweet.
00:07:51Why do you like me?
00:07:53I felt like from the moment we saw each other, we didn't have to say anything.
00:07:57That's so true.
00:07:58And it's, and you know what I'm saying, because it is real.
00:08:00It's actually real.
00:08:01I mean, we were smiling at each other from 30 feet away.
00:08:07I like Chris a lot.
00:08:09He has a lot of the qualities that I've been looking for in a partner, in a man, or a
00:08:13husband.
00:08:14I can tell that Chris is younger, but I don't know if he knows how much younger, if that makes
00:08:20sense.
00:08:21He doesn't know my age.
00:08:23Nobody does.
00:08:24I don't, I don't even know if he thinks about it, like, how much older I could be than him.
00:08:30That's very scary.
00:08:33What if he does find out when my real age and I'm not as young as he thinks I am?
00:08:36Like, will he still like me?
00:08:38You know?
00:08:41Wait, so who was the last person you massaged?
00:08:45Well, honestly, I, this is just me getting massages and, like, remembering what feels good and trying to repeat it.
00:08:50I don't know if it feels good yet, but I guess.
00:08:52No, it does.
00:08:53You're doing a good job.
00:08:56I hope she didn't catch that I was trying to avoid that question.
00:09:01Obviously, in that moment, I wasn't about to tell her that a few days before I was in the spa
00:09:06getting Vanessa a massage.
00:09:09Me and Vanessa got a little bit intimate.
00:09:11Yes, we kissed.
00:09:11So, I was like, yo, there's no way she's asking me this right now.
00:09:17Thanks.
00:09:18Okay.
00:09:25I like to climb on things.
00:09:29Ooh, that's crazy.
00:09:31Romeo, Romeo.
00:09:33We're out there, Romeo.
00:09:34Wait, is this supposed to be the opposite way?
00:09:36Like, I think you're supposed to be up here with your hair.
00:09:38Wait, we had that backwards.
00:09:39Yeah.
00:09:40The typical age range that I date are women that are probably around 20, I would say 28 to 33,
00:09:4934.
00:09:49I've dated older, but it's never been something serious.
00:09:53So, now, looking at something that's serious with Vanessa, you know, that's something that is intriguing.
00:10:06All right, that was fine.
00:10:07All right, good job.
00:10:08Okay.
00:10:09Hey, boys, how's it going?
00:10:16Good.
00:10:16It's going, buddy.
00:10:17Hey, I saw you hanging out with Jolene a little bit.
00:10:21Yeah.
00:10:21What's the vibe for you guys right now, do you think?
00:10:23Oh, man, it just increased.
00:10:25Like, everything's good, and it just, like, amplified.
00:10:30We know what we have, and the connection is just, like, it's good.
00:10:34She's a good vibe.
00:10:35Do you think she's older than you or younger than you?
00:10:37I think she's older than me.
00:10:39High 30s, early 40s, I don't know.
00:10:41But also, you can't tell with her, you know?
00:10:43She's got great skin.
00:10:44Yeah.
00:10:45Girls think I'm just a flirt, and they're like, oh, look at this guy.
00:10:49He's good looking.
00:10:49He's flirty.
00:10:50Oh, he's just an F boy, you know?
00:10:52It's, like, tossed up a flag for some girls in the past.
00:10:56And I don't like that, because the person I think I am in a relationship is loyal, trustworthy.
00:11:02I'm always going to be in my partner's corner.
00:11:05So I'm trying to find an awesome partner to do life with, because that's what it's about.
00:11:11I'm thinking about, like, the Promise Room and all that, and I'm like, I'm the kind of guy who's, like,
00:11:15lover boy.
00:11:16I love what I see.
00:11:17I can totally see that.
00:11:18I want it.
00:11:18Let's go.
00:11:19I can totally see that.
00:11:20And I was ready to go yesterday.
00:11:31I've been ready to go to the Promise Room with Jolene since the first time I set my eyes on
00:11:36her.
00:11:36Hey.
00:11:37Hi.
00:11:37I'm Jolene.
00:11:38Wes.
00:11:40Which is corny and cheesy, but it's true.
00:11:43I'm a pretty easygoing guy, and I've lived with a woman before that I've dated, so I understand, like, the
00:11:50do's and don'ts.
00:11:51I'll pull this out for you.
00:11:53So sweet.
00:11:56How's your bell?
00:11:57Does that work?
00:11:59Oh, that's how it goes.
00:12:01You don't have a bell on your bike?
00:12:02I was doing it wrong.
00:12:03Oh.
00:12:04I feel it every time.
00:12:07I think we're totally on the same page with what we want and what we want to do, and I
00:12:11just want to spend more time with her.
00:12:13That's kind of what makes me feel good, and that's where I want to be.
00:12:22I came here to find love in an ageless environment, mostly to get rid of the parameters I put around
00:12:31dating and to focus on getting to know the person.
00:12:35But it does kind of mess with me.
00:12:37When I make a commitment, I want to make sure that it feels right, and the next phase for Wes
00:12:44and I would mean that we would have to live together, wake up together.
00:12:48So there's a lot of things for me to think about.
00:13:06It's looking beautiful.
00:13:08Oh, my goodness.
00:13:14Thanks for joining me.
00:13:16Yeah, thanks for inviting me.
00:13:20I kind of think it's undeniable, the connection we had in the beginning, like pretty much right when I sat
00:13:25down with you and looked at you.
00:13:27I kind of wanted to say that I was just so dead set on you from the beginning.
00:13:31I was just like so into your vibe and everything and how you look and all of that, how you
00:13:37carry yourself, that I didn't really see any of the girls as an option.
00:13:42I think you're such a young spiritual heart and soul that I want to continue this journey with you.
00:13:49I definitely want to let you know that I care a lot about you, that I want to...
00:13:54I care about you, too.
00:13:55Yeah.
00:13:56I just feel like our time together has been so good and it's only getting better and it can only
00:14:02be so great moving forward.
00:14:05So I was wondering if you wanted to, like, accept the promise and, you know, continue on with me in
00:14:12this journey.
00:14:20I think that our connection was really, it is really strong, but no, I'm not ready to, like, make the
00:14:33commitment of moving in and living together right now.
00:14:41I think that you're much younger than me, and that shouldn't matter, but I think that you're much younger than
00:14:46me and that maybe you have some growing to do for us to, like, work on, like, taking that next
00:14:53step in a relationship.
00:14:57Moving in together.
00:14:59Do I have a chance to persuade you right now or is that your decision?
00:15:03What's your persuasion?
00:15:06I think that the time we spent together is just so easy and it flows that I felt moving in
00:15:14with each other would just continue that, so...
00:15:16I agree.
00:15:17It wouldn't have to be serious.
00:15:18Well, it is serious, though.
00:15:20See, that's what I mean.
00:15:22Like, as far as, you know, maybe growing and understanding that that next step is not just for fun, you
00:15:33know?
00:15:33Um, okay, I'll put this back down, then.
00:15:36You have pieces of you that are so mature, but I just think that we shouldn't make that commitment right
00:15:44now.
00:15:46I am mature.
00:15:47I mean, I am, you know, serious.
00:15:49How old are you?
00:15:52I'm 30.
00:15:54Oh.
00:15:55So, I knew you might think that I was, like, 25 or something.
00:15:59Yeah, exactly.
00:15:59I know, I get that, but that's, as I said before, I'm a little older than you thought.
00:16:04A little.
00:16:07Yeah.
00:16:08Okay, so are you going to tell me how old you are?
00:16:11Are you going to keep that a secret?
00:16:12Oh, yeah.
00:16:13So I'm 48.
00:16:16Did you guess that?
00:16:18How old would I?
00:16:19I never, I can't really believe that, either.
00:16:27I think you say 48, but I, I barely see 38, you know?
00:16:32It's, like, insane.
00:16:34What?
00:16:35Yeah.
00:16:36No.
00:16:36It's okay.
00:16:37Oh, come here.
00:16:40Thanks for meeting me here.
00:16:42I'm glad you didn't just say, like, no, you didn't want to do it, so.
00:16:45Oh, no.
00:16:45Of course.
00:16:46Of course I wanted to.
00:16:47Appreciate it.
00:16:49Bet you never saw the end, the power has to dance, be friends.
00:16:55But my life's not better, we're too careful, so I'll let you go.
00:17:03It's disappointing to hear her say she's looking for a long-term partner, and to see where I'm
00:17:10at right now with a rejection.
00:17:13I, like, I made myself really vulnerable to this, and, uh, I feel like she just didn't
00:17:19take me seriously enough and broke up with me before we even started.
00:17:24Something I learned from this.
00:17:26The age is a thing, but it's not everything for me.
00:17:33In making the decision not to move forward, I just feel bad that, you know, I'm letting
00:17:39him down.
00:17:40But I think he has to think of the bigger picture.
00:17:44I'm so much older than him.
00:17:45I've been married, divorced, I have two kids, and I know that marriage isn't always going
00:17:52to be fun.
00:17:55I'm looking for someone that isn't only just trying to have, like, good times.
00:18:02I want someone in it for the long haul.
00:18:04And ultimately, I think age can be a parameter that you let go of if there are life experiences
00:18:11that both people have gone through that kind of complement each other.
00:18:23It's definitely a dent in the armor, but as we learned, you know, she's 18 years older
00:18:29than me, so she has, uh, lived a lot more life than I have.
00:18:37Um, it, it is a shocker.
00:18:40It is crazy.
00:18:46But, hey, what am I going to do about it, you know?
00:19:06So, in your case, how's the connection?
00:19:08With Fiverr?
00:19:09Yeah.
00:19:09It's good.
00:19:10Like, I trust it.
00:19:11You know what I mean?
00:19:11I, I think it's, it's great.
00:19:13Like, I've, I've opened up about things that are dear to me that I wouldn't share with someone
00:19:18that I'm just, you know, dating or I'm just hanging out with.
00:19:22Like, these are things that are dear to me.
00:19:24This is who I am as a person.
00:19:26If you can accept those things, then, then we can continue forward.
00:19:29Getting into the promise room, like, you want to make sure, before you even get there,
00:19:33I've laid it on the line.
00:19:35You know what I mean?
00:19:35You don't want to go in there and, like, say, hey, let's go live together.
00:19:39But you really don't even know who I truly am.
00:19:42You know what I mean?
00:19:42So, you feel like you've laid it on the line completely already?
00:19:44Yeah, yeah.
00:19:45Like, who I am and, you know what I mean, my family and, like, my boys.
00:19:48Nice.
00:19:48Like, that's the closest thing to me.
00:19:50100%.
00:19:50Yeah.
00:19:51So, you like Leah?
00:19:52I do like Leah.
00:19:53You feel comfortable going in there with her?
00:19:55That's where I'm at.
00:19:56Do I feel comfortable going in there with her?
00:20:00I feel like I am, but why am I being so hesitant?
00:20:03That's what's scaring me, right?
00:20:05If you go through that process, right, age is disclosed, all of that,
00:20:08you move in with somebody, then, damn, you got something.
00:20:11You can look at it like, okay, it's kind of like we've been dating for, like, a year.
00:20:13A thousand percent.
00:20:15If we made it through the soul process, you know what I mean?
00:20:18I'm very proud of myself for allowing myself to be vulnerable to someone else
00:20:24because my parents' relationship definitely has had a lasting effect on me.
00:20:29They actually split when my mom was eight months pregnant with me.
00:20:34Essentially, the only room we've been in together is a courtroom.
00:20:37I would say I have the most amazing relationship with my mom now.
00:20:42Um, you know, and that's been great.
00:20:46With that being said, for me...
00:20:59Give me a second.
00:21:02I think that I probably haven't been as open, you know,
00:21:06that what I dealt with this appointment was to close it off.
00:21:12So it was like, I have to open myself up, you know,
00:21:16if I truly want to have a partner that truly understands all of me.
00:21:22That's what you want to get to in a relationship
00:21:24because you don't ever want to feel like you're putting on,
00:21:26you know what I mean?
00:21:26A thousand percent.
00:21:35So who do you talk to so far?
00:21:36Um, so we went on a group date
00:21:38and I hung out with, like, Chris a little bit.
00:21:41We had fun, but I didn't feel like it was something
00:21:45I could keep going for longevity.
00:21:48So how about you?
00:21:49What makes this timing now, like, right for you?
00:21:52Actually, um, like, my last serious relationship
00:21:55was three years ago.
00:21:56The last year, realistically, it's just been...
00:21:59I was like, you know what?
00:22:00Like, kind of focus on, like, myself and my career.
00:22:04It's kind of hard to, like, focus on, you know,
00:22:06a lot of things at the same time.
00:22:07So I've kind of put dating on the back burner
00:22:10a little bit last year.
00:22:11What about you?
00:22:11Um, yeah, so I have been single for four years, actually.
00:22:15Yeah, so I just kind of went...
00:22:18I kept having, like, toxic relationships, you know?
00:22:21And, like, the last one was, like, super toxic.
00:22:24I was actually engaged.
00:22:25Ooh.
00:22:26Yeah, and it didn't work out.
00:22:28And so I ended up, um, like...
00:22:31I really wanted to, like, explore and be like,
00:22:33why am I picking people that are not healthy for me?
00:22:36So did you... Wait, so you never got married?
00:22:38No, I've never been married.
00:22:39Have you been married?
00:22:40No, I've not.
00:22:40No, I haven't been married.
00:22:41So, yeah, so never married, no kids, right?
00:22:43Um, well, I have one kid.
00:22:45Okay.
00:22:46I was 18 years old, and I was very young,
00:22:48and, you know, he wanted to go party.
00:22:52And I was like, I'm at home with a baby.
00:22:55That sounds about right.
00:22:55Like, that's not going to work out, you know?
00:22:57This is how you were engaged.
00:22:59So I've been engaged twice.
00:23:00Okay.
00:23:00So that was the other one.
00:23:02Well, actually, no, I've been engaged a few times.
00:23:05I've been engaged...
00:23:05Damn, girl, you're collecting rings like J-Lo.
00:23:08So, actually, I've been engaged four times.
00:23:10Okay.
00:23:10I have as many rings...
00:23:11Four? Whoa.
00:23:12I've had as many rings as LeBron James.
00:23:14I was about to say, that's LeBron.
00:23:15So, I'm telling you where we're in a relationship.
00:23:17So, not quite Kobe, but you're LeBron love Kobe.
00:23:17No, next one's Kobe.
00:23:19Let me...
00:23:20Go ahead.
00:23:20Let's have a sip.
00:23:21Let's have a sip.
00:23:22Let's have a sip.
00:23:23Let me...
00:23:23Yeah.
00:23:25Cheers.
00:23:25And then share what you want to share.
00:23:26Okay.
00:23:27Oh.
00:23:44Before I came here, I was feeling a bit closed off to love.
00:23:50And I used to think someone younger wouldn't be able to understand the responsibilities that
00:23:56you have as a single father.
00:23:58But then I met Pfeiffer.
00:24:00With anyone.
00:24:02When I look at Pfeiffer, I feel at peace, like in a happy state.
00:24:08I just love being around her.
00:24:12I want to take Pfeiffer to the Promise Room because I want to continue our journey.
00:24:16I don't want it to end here.
00:24:19I'm feeling some nerves knowing that I'm moments away from revealing my age to Pfeiffer.
00:24:26I'm trying not to love you so much.
00:24:30But what's stronger for me is definitely the hope of love.
00:24:38The Promise Room to me means commitment and it means acceptance.
00:24:43I'm very confident in who Derek is as a person.
00:24:46And so I'm hoping he can accept me for what he knows now, regardless of my younger age.
00:24:52This whole time, truly, I have not thought about his age a single time.
00:24:57And getting to know Derek more has only confirmed that we have a connection.
00:25:02Really, he just gives me space to be myself.
00:25:07I mean, there's like nothing more that you could want, really.
00:25:10Like, I do feel...
00:25:11Oh, my God, sorry.
00:25:14I've already come.
00:25:21I've had some bad relationships.
00:25:26And it took a lot for me to, like, accept that and, like, come into my own person.
00:25:36So being around somebody who is so the opposite of that is, like, it's something that I didn't think that
00:25:47I would find so soon.
00:25:50It feels, like, too good to be true.
00:25:52I think.
00:25:54I'll try anything not to love you so much.
00:26:02I'll try...
00:26:31Hey.
00:26:33us like I love that obviously I was extremely attracted to you like obviously you understand
00:26:41being raised by your dad me being a father right you understand all that family being big clearly
00:26:46it's big to me and knowing that that's big to you and me being willing to obviously add to
00:26:52the family so whatever differences challenges all those things I feel like we could definitely get
00:26:58through it together I totally agree yeah coming here I never would have thought that I would have
00:27:05found a connection a great connection my past relationships have definitely been rough I would
00:27:13say and so being around someone like you is like refreshing it's nice to be treated well even if
00:27:24it's someone you don't know for very long and it's like it's I have a really hard time opening up
00:27:36to
00:27:36people just based on my past you know but being able to meet you and like talk about what we've
00:27:50talked
00:27:50about so easily obviously we haven't known each other for very long um but it feels like I've known
00:27:58you for a long time or longer than I have which is I don't know I didn't think that would
00:28:03happen so
00:28:04it's nice yeah sorry um yeah I don't know it's been great it's been great and um yeah anyway I'm
00:28:16looking
00:28:16forward to the next step I know I can't wait I want to keep going yeah me too so obviously
00:28:21let's keep
00:28:22going let's rock out this is my promise to you my commitment to obviously continuing down the path
00:28:30that we're on continuing to get to know and grow with you I'm loving every part of it so far
00:28:35I know
00:28:35it's only going to continue to get better even with you just opening up like that like that just
00:28:40solidifies to me honestly what your heart is it's a heart of gold it means a lot thank you
00:28:46absolutely
00:28:53I've really had no hesitations and no doubts at all there's no one else here that I would ever want
00:28:58to
00:28:58put a ring on there for you um yeah thank you of course now we're ready to move on oh
00:29:08my god
00:29:10to the next stage and so I'll um first I'll start with my voice right um so Dominic is five
00:29:18and Carter's 15 okay and I'm 43 okay
00:29:29that's older than I thought but I don't really I don't care I don't I mean I've never really thought
00:29:34about it you're okay I haven't either okay good um yeah I mean do you have any do you want
00:29:41to do
00:29:41you have any guesses mid-20s like we're all my guesses okay I'm 23 23 okay all right I have
00:29:53no
00:29:53problem with it I know you the connections there with you so it's shocking because I think more so
00:29:59like it's about experiences right and obviously you've had life experiences and that supersedes just
00:30:05age for me so I'm excited me too me too and I have a kiss yeah
00:30:14You called me in the middle of the night, I would pick up the phone and I told you, you
00:30:26could go on, cause you're fragile, how you feel?
00:30:32I'm happy.
00:30:33Hmm?
00:30:34You said I'm happy.
00:30:35I'm happy.
00:30:35Oh my God.
00:30:36I'm blessed.
00:30:38I'm blessed.
00:30:39You're sweet.
00:30:40You're sweet.
00:30:42I would have never thought that I would connect like this with somebody who is nearly double my age.
00:30:47It's kind of unbelievable how quickly we were able to connect and truly how accepting he is of me, of
00:30:53my age, of my story, of my emotions, of everything.
00:30:56That isn't to say that I'm totally fearless with no anxiety.
00:31:00But at the end of the day, I got to know Derek based on who he is.
00:31:04Like, I got to know Derek, not Derek the 43-year-old.
00:31:0820 years, when you first say it, it's like, wow, a 20-year age gap.
00:31:12There will obviously be challenges, but that's a part of it.
00:31:14That's a part of the growth.
00:31:16Obviously, we're starting the next phase, but the overall objective is to create a family together, create a home together
00:31:25and all those things.
00:31:25So I think the next phase will give us, like, a snapshot into what that'll look like.
00:31:29Uh, and then we'll go from there.
00:31:31And I want, just one guy, could save us, could save us, could save us.
00:31:50I appreciate you holding the umbrella.
00:31:52Yeah, I got you, girl.
00:31:53Yeah.
00:31:54I like that.
00:31:55I like that.
00:31:57So far, my strongest connection has been with Logan.
00:32:00He just seems very caring and supportive and affectionate.
00:32:06And it's really what I like and it's really what I needed.
00:32:10Yeah, yeah.
00:32:11I want to know that he is somebody that wants to, like, build something together.
00:32:17And, yeah, I could see some potential here.
00:32:20Um, I hope I didn't scare you away with telling you about my history.
00:32:25I was trying not to do the mental math.
00:32:27Okay, yeah.
00:32:28Like, the four rings.
00:32:29Yeah.
00:32:30It was like...
00:32:31Four years, four rings.
00:32:32Four years, yeah.
00:32:33Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:33So this is hard.
00:32:34But, yeah, so I don't know.
00:32:39Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, one of those things where I just, I'm still trying to, I don't know, figure.
00:32:44Yeah, figure it all out, yeah.
00:32:46I don't think...
00:32:47Are you afraid of, like, outside judgment?
00:32:49Is that something that concerns you?
00:32:51I don't know.
00:32:51I mean, I'm just...
00:32:51Yeah.
00:32:52What do you think?
00:32:53Like, uh...
00:32:53I don't know.
00:32:54How do you feel about...
00:32:56I mean, because, like, there's obviously a visible age gap, right?
00:33:00Yeah.
00:33:01I mean, I, you know...
00:33:01Geez, thanks!
00:33:02No, I mean...
00:33:04You think that people are going to think I'm your mom?
00:33:06No, I mean, I'm just saying, I mean...
00:33:09It's not, you know...
00:33:10Like, what do you feel?
00:33:12You don't act like you haven't thought about it.
00:33:19Yeah, that was a little insulting.
00:33:21Him saying these things are just raising all the red flags.
00:33:25He doesn't know how old I am, I don't know how old he is, but I'm starting to see, you
00:33:30know, some of the immaturity.
00:33:34So I'm definitely in a dilemma when it comes to Vanessa.
00:33:37Like, I like her a lot.
00:33:39I feel a strong connection.
00:33:41She's super energetic.
00:33:43She's friendly.
00:33:44She's so easy to talk to.
00:33:46She has the same interest.
00:33:47But, you know, when people are older or have more life experience, they have things that come with them.
00:33:53There's more than just an age difference.
00:34:05At the end of the day, I wanna say that I tried.
00:34:11I wanna know that I faced it with my head held high.
00:34:16I'm taking Chris to go to the Promise Room with me because I love who he is as a person.
00:34:22He makes me feel seen and he chooses me.
00:34:25I got you, though.
00:34:28I got you, though.
00:34:29I got you, though.
00:34:31And that's what I've been wanting and missing.
00:34:35I came here to find my person.
00:34:37And, you know, I'm hoping he's my person.
00:34:41We're on the same page with almost everything we've discussed, which is kind of rare.
00:34:47You ready to settle down, get married and have some kids?
00:34:50I'm very ready.
00:34:51I don't want to waste time.
00:34:53I want my happily ever after.
00:34:55You look hot.
00:34:56Ditto.
00:34:57Will you marry me?
00:35:00Bye, babe.
00:35:01Yeah!
00:35:03It's very important that Chris accepts me for me, including my age.
00:35:09All of it.
00:35:10I just want him to see me for me.
00:35:12I mean, I can't change my birth year, you know?
00:35:16It's a little scary.
00:35:17And, like, what if he does act different when I do tell him my real age?
00:35:22I'm afraid of that.
00:35:27Looking back at the beginning of this process and my relationship with Vanessa, I am so happy to have had
00:35:33that experience.
00:35:34I feel like if I didn't have that moment with Vanessa, I wouldn't have understand how important my relationship with
00:35:38Leah is.
00:35:41I want her to know my family, my brother, my dog, all these things, and that's something that I've never
00:35:49felt before.
00:35:50I'm nervous.
00:35:51I'm super nervous for this.
00:35:52There's no question about it.
00:35:53I've waited all this time.
00:36:07You look beautiful.
00:36:12You look amazing.
00:36:14I do, too.
00:36:16Thank you, baby.
00:36:23I'm so happy you were here.
00:36:25Me, too.
00:36:28You are genuine, kind, empathetic, consistent, and you're fun to be around.
00:36:34And that's all the qualities that I'm looking for in my future partner.
00:36:39Wow.
00:36:41Don't make me cry.
00:36:42I'm sorry, babe.
00:36:44I know.
00:36:45In general, I struggle with sharing and being emotional because I know that it leads to connections, and connections leads
00:36:51to hurt.
00:36:52Yes.
00:36:53But, you know, it's led me here.
00:36:55It's led me to sit in front of somebody that I could see myself building a long-term connection with,
00:37:01and I can't wait to get to know more.
00:37:03So excited.
00:37:05My God.
00:37:06Yeah.
00:37:07I'm sorry.
00:37:11Yeah.
00:37:12Okay, let's see.
00:37:15I commit to you, babe.
00:37:17I choose you.
00:37:19And I see you.
00:37:21Mm-hmm.
00:37:21And I want to be with you.
00:37:23That's beautiful.
00:37:25Look at this cute little ring.
00:37:26Is this gonna fit?
00:37:27Yes, it is.
00:37:29All right.
00:37:29This is cool, huh?
00:37:32The rings do look pretty...
00:37:33I do have a ring, babe.
00:37:34They do look pretty cool.
00:37:35It matches your...
00:37:36I know.
00:37:38Who would've thought?
00:37:40Ooh, are you nervous?
00:37:42A little bit.
00:37:44Because you know I'm gonna ask your age.
00:37:47Mine first?
00:37:48Yeah.
00:37:50You have to go first.
00:37:54So now?
00:37:55Uh-huh.
00:37:57Okay.
00:37:58I am 26 years old.
00:38:01I knew it.
00:38:03I...
00:38:04I've never dated a 26-year-old.
00:38:07You were tripping me out.
00:38:09When can I ask you?
00:38:10Can I ask you now?
00:38:11Okay.
00:38:16What if I said I was 41?
00:38:20Nah.
00:38:22Are you really?
00:38:24I am.
00:38:25Wow.
00:38:27Um...
00:38:27I'm shocked.
00:38:28I knew.
00:38:29I figured.
00:38:29I knew you thought I was at least mid-30s.
00:38:31Yeah.
00:38:32I was gonna say 36 maximum.
00:38:33And then, like, yeah.
00:38:34And then, like, I...
00:38:35I thought...
00:38:35Okay, at first I thought 30, 31, 32.
00:38:38And then I started talking.
00:38:39Then I was like, okay, she's a decade older.
00:38:4036.
00:38:41I was not gonna say older than that.
00:38:44So you're happy?
00:38:46I'm happy.
00:38:47Me too.
00:38:48Um, I'm a little bit nervous, but it's a good a nervous.
00:38:50I've never been able to open up to somebody as much as I have with you.
00:38:54Agreed.
00:38:55No matter what, let's just commit to being 100% ourselves...
00:39:00I love it.
00:39:00...throughout this next process.
00:39:01Absolutely.
00:39:01I've never lived with anybody.
00:39:03You've never lived with anybody.
00:39:04This is gonna be a journey.
00:39:06It is.
00:39:06A good journey.
00:39:07I'm excited for this.
00:39:09Yeah, I mean, it's gonna be a good journey.
00:39:13You ready?
00:39:13Mm-hmm.
00:39:15Let's do it then.
00:39:17Let's do it then.
00:39:18Give me a kiss.
00:39:22Don't kiss me on my forehead.
00:39:24You have to.
00:39:28Oh my gosh.
00:39:34I knew there was an age gap.
00:39:36I didn't think it was gonna be that big.
00:39:3715 years, bigger than I expected.
00:39:39But I am so excited to get to know more about Liam.
00:39:46It was nerve-wracking for me to tell Chris my real age.
00:39:49I didn't know how he'd react.
00:39:51There was definitely a fear of him being like,
00:39:53oh no, you're too old for me.
00:39:56I would be lying to say that there's no hesitation
00:39:58about moving in with each other.
00:40:00These next few weeks will determine
00:40:03the rest of my life, possibly.
00:40:04.
00:40:25Our time here is like.
00:40:27Yeah.
00:40:28Coming to an end soon.
00:40:29Right.
00:40:29And I feel like we don't really have any clarification
00:40:33Like where we stand so that's what I was hoping to talk about today. Yeah, absolutely, and I want
00:40:39To get some things off my chest as well. Okay, guys
00:40:43Vanessa is definitely the strongest connection that I've made but when I brought up the age the other day, you
00:40:48know, obviously I messed up
00:40:49I shouldn't have said that we're here on this retreat not to worry about that. I
00:40:54Remember saying, you know, we'll talk again, and we kind of did it and that's when I kind of had
00:41:00this
00:41:00You know realization that I need to actually try with Vanessa. She's somebody that I really care about
00:41:08You know sometimes you either run or you stay and and that's when I told myself I want to stay
00:41:14After we had that talk like I feel like I kind of shot myself in the fire. Yeah
00:41:19And so from that point forward it's like well, she's still into me
00:41:23Is she not like do you still feel this do you want to talk to other people which is fine
00:41:27if you do
00:41:27Yeah, like I I'm still like trying to get a read. Yeah, it's been very difficult for me. Yeah, I
00:41:32just feel like
00:41:34Yeah, you've been my strongest connection here. You know what I mean?
00:41:38Well, like do you feel confident enough to like make this grow is this age thing gonna really bother you?
00:41:45You know and like how do we know unless we try
00:41:48But like do you want to try or do you feel is there still something holding you back?
00:41:53You know yeah, I mean at this point, I think I was in my head about it obviously but to
00:41:58be honest
00:41:59I don't think there's anything holding me back from at least making it an attempt. Yeah, so I feel like
00:42:04I
00:42:05Want to kind of take a step back and and give you like kind of like the real me, right?
00:42:11He's taking accountability for his actions and that really means a lot and now it's like moving forward
00:42:17I need to see if actions are gonna line up with words as far as the promise room
00:42:22I feel like I need him to be that person to make that decision
00:42:27So it lies in his hands
00:42:31I'm gonna put in the effort to
00:42:33Man up and and you know be the person that I feel I am and that's
00:42:39with Vanessa
00:42:50When I look at Vanessa, I feel excitement
00:42:53There's a part of me that just wants to know what else is there to this woman that I'm already
00:42:59so attracted to so intrigued by
00:43:03Vanessa and I have had a rocky road, but
00:43:07She makes me want to commit and that's a good sign
00:43:11Now we're going to reveal our ages
00:43:15Um, it'll it'll be interesting
00:43:18Someday I won't be afraid of fate
00:43:22For getting older
00:43:24I came here without putting parameters on age to try to find love in an ageless environment
00:43:31And I want someone to share holidays with and milestones with
00:43:36I'm tired of being the only one in my family that's single my sisters are married my daughter's married
00:43:42I mean, I'm just kind of the black sheep
00:43:44I don't want to go into the last years of my life alone
00:43:54I know age is a concern for Logan
00:43:56So I'm a little worried Logan might see me differently when he knows my age. I
00:44:02Just don't know what to expect right now
00:44:04I won't have to wait
00:44:11For someday
00:44:16Hi
00:44:16Hey gorgeous
00:44:18How are you?
00:44:19Good
00:44:20Good, have a seat
00:44:22You look nice
00:44:23You look hotter and hotter every single day
00:44:25I swear to God
00:44:26Thank you
00:44:27How you feeling?
00:44:29Good
00:44:29You look absolutely stunning
00:44:31Thank you
00:44:32Um, dating for me
00:44:35It's been, it's been, there's been some ups and downs obviously as you've known
00:44:39And, um, I chose to go here
00:44:42Get on this retreat because I wanted to just
00:44:46Leave the outside world
00:44:48To come here and find that special connection
00:44:51Um, and I think I was so concerned
00:44:54With finding, finding this connection, right? Finding the right one
00:45:00You know, I didn't take the time to appreciate I was right in front of me
00:45:04And that's this midwestern girl
00:45:07This amazing woman
00:45:09And that's why I'm here
00:45:11And that's why I invited you here
00:45:15I appreciate that
00:45:17I don't, I mentioned the other day
00:45:19Like I lost my mom like less than a year ago
00:45:22And I was just in a really dark place
00:45:23And I realized, like, it's time for me to settle down and find my person
00:45:28You know, watching my dad be there for my mom, like, to the end
00:45:32Like, it really meant a lot
00:45:34And that's, like, something that I wanted to find
00:45:36So I came here trying to find the right thing
00:45:39And to find my light at the end of the tunnel
00:45:42You know, we hit a rocky road
00:45:45And my instinct when I hit a rocky road is to run
00:45:50But something told me to, like, talk to you about it
00:45:55Don't run away from it
00:45:56And I'm glad that we're here
00:45:58I'm glad that we made it
00:45:59And, you know, sometimes I think the hard things can make you stronger in the long run
00:46:05And I don't want to run away
00:46:09I'm good
00:46:19I had a death
00:46:20I love it
00:46:21I was like, hey, you know
00:46:22I love it
00:46:23You kissed me so good
00:46:24It knocked my bracelet off
00:46:27Okay
00:46:28Well
00:46:31Here's this for you
00:46:33Yeah
00:46:34I got this to symbolize my commitment to you moving forward
00:46:40To continue this journey and this relationship with you and only you and nobody else
00:46:48I want that too
00:46:51Okay
00:46:52And I'm giving you this
00:46:53Because I promise not to run away
00:46:56Okay
00:46:57And I promise to talk to you through all the bumps
00:47:06Okay
00:47:07Oh, God
00:47:09I forgot about this part
00:47:11All right
00:47:12Here's the hard part
00:47:13Okay
00:47:15Last thing
00:47:16Okay
00:47:17I
00:47:21I'm 29 years old
00:47:28I was worried
00:47:31That's good for me
00:47:32Yeah
00:47:32So I am
00:47:3949
00:47:40I was going to guess 29
00:47:44Honestly
00:47:46What did you think I was 49?
00:47:48No
00:47:48How old did you think it was?
00:47:49I was going to say maybe eight years older than me
00:47:53I was thinking mid to late 30s
00:47:54Okay
00:47:55That's what I was thinking
00:47:55So now
00:47:57Is it going to bother you?
00:47:59Do you still want to try?
00:48:03Hell yes
00:48:04Okay
00:48:04Of course
00:48:05Come on now
00:48:06I'm excited
00:48:06Ready?
00:48:07Yes
00:48:07Okay
00:48:17If I knew Logan was 29
00:48:19Let's say I'm on a dating app
00:48:20I'd say 29 now
00:48:21Like without even like looking at the rest of his stuff
00:48:24But I came here with an open mind
00:48:28And I feel like through all the ups and downs
00:48:31We're in a really good place now
00:48:32I was really hesitant about
00:48:34Am I going to find a connection?
00:48:36Is it going to be the right connection?
00:48:38But you know
00:48:39At the end of the day
00:48:40It's Vanessa
00:48:42I was very nervous to share my age
00:48:45Because there was something that he was nervous about
00:48:47But he's willing to push through
00:48:49Time will tell like where this goes
00:48:52I have strong feelings for her
00:48:54And I you know
00:48:54I think that it's up to me to prove that
00:48:56You know
00:48:57I'm somebody that can be in it for the long haul
00:48:59And I'm looking forward to
00:49:00Continuing to build this connection
00:49:02But you know
00:49:03You go from the retreat out into the real world
00:49:06To now living together
00:49:07I mean
00:49:08You know
00:49:09Of course I'm nervous
00:49:13But I'm excited
00:49:14Nervous excited
00:49:27Upon arriving at this retreat
00:49:29A group of singles
00:49:30Of all ages
00:49:32Came looking for love
00:49:33Without knowing anyone's age
00:49:35They dated
00:49:36Connected
00:49:36And got to know each other
00:49:38Without the usual judgments age can bring
00:49:40Some found love within their age group
00:49:43And a big reveal
00:49:4446
00:49:44Stop it
00:49:4647
00:49:49I'm 26
00:49:50Really?
00:49:51Yeah
00:49:52I'm 23
00:49:53Oh
00:49:5440
00:49:5640?
00:49:574
00:49:5744?
00:49:58Yeah
00:49:59Oh wow
00:49:59I am 48 years old
00:50:01Okay
00:50:02Alright
00:50:03While others were shocked
00:50:05By the age difference
00:50:06I'm 60
00:50:12I'm 60
00:50:13Now
00:50:14Six of those couples
00:50:16With age differences
00:50:17Ranging from 15 years apart
00:50:19To as much as 33 years apart
00:50:21Move forward
00:50:22In the next phase of this journey
00:50:23This is happening to me
00:50:25Yeah
00:50:28They'll live together
00:50:29Share their daily lives
00:50:31And meet each other's closest
00:50:32Friends and families
00:50:34Putting their relationships
00:50:35To the real world test
00:50:36I never thought
00:50:38I could love this much
00:50:43At the end of this experience
00:50:44They will face a big decision
00:50:46That could change their lives forever
00:50:48They'll take the journey
00:50:50To the top of this mountain
00:50:51To face the person
00:50:53They've built something with
00:50:54And decide
00:50:55Is this just the end of an experiment
00:50:58Or the beginning
00:50:59Of something life changing
00:51:04Will age and all that comes with it
00:51:06Be the thing that separates them
00:51:08Or the thing they overcome
00:51:09Can the love they found
00:51:11Survive what's coming next
00:51:19Oh
00:51:20Oh
00:51:21Oh, okay
00:51:21I'll take this one
00:51:23Wow
00:51:24This is beautiful
00:51:25This is nice
00:51:26I just can't believe
00:51:28I'm here with Derek
00:51:29Cheers
00:51:30Cheers
00:51:31We really have gotten along
00:51:32Great so far
00:51:34And it's almost been
00:51:36Unnervingly easy
00:51:37But this really is
00:51:39The next phase
00:51:40In this experience
00:51:42And the real world
00:51:43Is about to smack us
00:51:44In the face
00:51:45I'm definitely worried
00:51:46About the stigmas
00:51:47And the judgments
00:51:48That will come
00:51:49I mean Derek
00:51:50Is nearly twice my age
00:51:51Which saying that out loud
00:51:53It feels crazy
00:51:54I would be lying
00:51:55If I said like
00:51:56Thoughts haven't crossed my mind
00:51:58Like what would my family think
00:51:59What will my friends think
00:52:01We made it
00:52:01You did
00:52:02But that doesn't dissuade me
00:52:03From continuing
00:52:04With Derek
00:52:05I'm happy to face
00:52:06The judgments
00:52:07Because he means so much
00:52:09To me
00:52:09But it will be challenging
00:52:13Oh my god
00:52:14Oh my god
00:52:15Oh my god
00:52:16Oh my god
00:52:16I can't wait
00:52:17To see everybody
00:52:18But I'm nervous
00:52:20I still have some reservations
00:52:22Over the whole age gap
00:52:24Staying in the bubble
00:52:26Would have been
00:52:26A much more comfortable situation
00:52:27But that's not reality
00:52:29Look who it is
00:52:31Hey
00:52:33Hey
00:52:34Hey
00:52:35Hey
00:52:38I've definitely had
00:52:39A little bit of time
00:52:40Now to kind of
00:52:43Decompress
00:52:43From Libby telling me
00:52:44Her age in the promise room
00:52:46It'll be good for us
00:52:47To get to actually spend
00:52:48Like a little bit more
00:52:50Quality one on one
00:52:51Time together
00:52:51To the first three couples
00:52:54And hopefully we got
00:52:55Some friends
00:52:56And girlfriends
00:52:57Right behind us
00:52:58That's right
00:52:58Absolutely
00:52:58Cheers for that
00:52:59Let's do it
00:53:00Oh
00:53:01We got the one
00:53:02Oh my gosh
00:53:03Okay
00:53:04Leah and Chris
00:53:05I'm a little bit surprised
00:53:07But they really did have
00:53:08That physical connection
00:53:10And they seemed so
00:53:11Deeply involved
00:53:13With each other
00:53:13I do kind of
00:53:15Question
00:53:16Do they have
00:53:17The strength of
00:53:18Knowing each other's
00:53:20Values
00:53:21And everyday character
00:53:23Because
00:53:24It's been a lot of
00:53:26Touching
00:53:27And kissing
00:53:28And less talking
00:53:29But
00:53:30You know
00:53:31That can maybe
00:53:32Go a long way
00:53:32So we'll just
00:53:33Have to see there
00:53:35No
00:53:37We made it
00:53:38We made it
00:53:43Last time I saw
00:53:44Vanessa and Logan
00:53:45They were broken up
00:53:46And I have heard
00:53:47Some comments
00:53:48Regarding optics
00:53:50That one was really
00:53:51Out of left field
00:53:52For me
00:53:52But it was kind
00:53:53Of an exciting surprise
00:53:54And I hope
00:53:55That they're happy
00:53:56Ever after
00:53:56And in love forever
00:53:57I don't know
00:53:58If I see it though
00:54:00I'm on the
00:54:01No
00:54:01No
00:54:01No
00:54:01No
00:54:02No
00:54:02No
00:54:02No
00:54:03No
00:54:06Jorge and Vanell
00:54:07Are so cute
00:54:08I wasn't really sure
00:54:10Who Vanell
00:54:10Was going to pick
00:54:11So that was good
00:54:13To see her
00:54:14Where she's at
00:54:15I think that
00:54:16They're a great match
00:54:16I just see
00:54:18Their energy together
00:54:19Like they're so
00:54:20Affectionate
00:54:21I feel like
00:54:22A lot of the other
00:54:22Couples here
00:54:23Are more affectionate
00:54:25Than Logan and I are
00:54:27Tell us about your journey
00:54:28I don't really know
00:54:29I was going to say
00:54:30Like what's
00:54:30So I love listening
00:54:31To him talk
00:54:32So do it
00:54:33Tell him our journey
00:54:33Yeah he's really good
00:54:34Alright so
00:54:35We had no communication
00:54:36Like it just
00:54:37It's natural
00:54:38It was out of nowhere
00:54:40You guys didn't get to meet
00:54:41On the speed day
00:54:42Nope
00:54:42Nothing
00:54:42But immediately
00:54:44The conversation
00:54:44Was super natural
00:54:45It was like
00:54:45We didn't have to force anything
00:54:47I wish I could say
00:54:48There's a lot more to it
00:54:48But there's not
00:54:49Yeah
00:54:49Yeah
00:54:50Today all day long
00:54:51Like seeing you guys together
00:54:53Made me realize
00:54:54Like how wonderful
00:54:55You are together
00:54:55Because like
00:54:56I hung out with him
00:54:57Like we had a great time
00:54:59Wait why didn't you guys
00:55:00Work out then
00:55:01You're not getting
00:55:02All serious huh
00:55:03You had another connection
00:55:04Yes so they went on a date
00:55:05Okay
00:55:06Just kidding
00:55:07Just kidding
00:55:07It was a group activity
00:55:08Just kidding
00:55:09Like I said
00:55:09It was a group activity
00:55:11It was a group activity
00:55:12Okay
00:55:13We had a beautiful
00:55:14Hold on
00:55:14Let me
00:55:15Stop it
00:55:16It was beautiful already
00:55:17It was
00:55:18Did you guys kiss
00:55:19Or something like
00:55:20Dang what happened
00:55:20On this group date
00:55:22Did you have a
00:55:23Oh
00:55:24Yeah
00:55:26I feel like
00:55:27I may have made a mistake
00:55:28Part of me was already
00:55:29Battling with
00:55:30Whether I should share that
00:55:31Or not
00:55:32About
00:55:33The kiss that me and Vanessa
00:55:34Had prior to me
00:55:35And Leo's relationship
00:55:36There was some wine involved
00:55:37Oh now there's wine
00:55:38We're getting woozy
00:55:39I was sober and everything
00:55:40We're hot
00:55:40We did get very
00:55:42We're hot
00:55:42And you know
00:55:43It was a very simple
00:55:44Hot kiss
00:55:45Simple
00:55:45Hot kiss
00:55:46Oh I heard you were
00:55:47Sucking face
00:55:48No
00:55:48No
00:55:49There's no time
00:55:50I didn't know
00:55:51That Chris and Vanessa kissed
00:55:55So that was interesting
00:55:56To find out today
00:55:57I just thought he would have
00:55:59Told me
00:56:00Ahead of time
00:56:01Because apparently
00:56:01Logan already knew
00:56:02Apparently maybe everyone knew
00:56:04I have no idea
00:56:05We gotta see what's up now
00:56:06Because that's unacceptable
00:56:07Period
00:56:09I mean you know
00:56:09The reality is
00:56:10Like we're on
00:56:11We're at a retreat
00:56:12We're finding connections
00:56:13I mean I didn't find any
00:56:14So I don't know
00:56:15I think it was a mistake
00:56:17To not reveal that
00:56:18And talk about that earlier
00:56:20Did I mess up?
00:56:21I guess
00:56:22I don't know
00:56:22I'll find out soon
00:56:24Okay so Fife
00:56:25As somebody who's
00:56:26In a similar situation
00:56:27Right
00:56:28How are you feeling
00:56:29About Derek having kids
00:56:31The age gap
00:56:32All the things
00:56:32Yeah I don't have experience
00:56:34Dating someone
00:56:35Who does have children
00:56:36Same
00:56:37I mean
00:56:38I like Derek
00:56:39For all that he is
00:56:40Including his children
00:56:41And he wouldn't be
00:56:42The person that he is
00:56:43If he didn't have his children
00:56:44Right
00:56:45And like family
00:56:46And being a dad
00:56:47Like that
00:56:48Those are things
00:56:48That are so important
00:56:49To me
00:56:49That it's like
00:56:50It only adds
00:56:51To his character
00:56:51Yeah
00:56:52Okay so how are you feeling
00:56:54Yeah
00:56:54About the whole kids thing
00:56:56Yes
00:56:56Honestly everything you said
00:56:58I second that
00:56:59When I heard he had kids
00:57:01I feel like I took him
00:57:02More seriously
00:57:03Because like I said
00:57:04I'm looking for a guy
00:57:06Who's more mature
00:57:07It grounds them
00:57:08More established
00:57:09And to hear that
00:57:09He's like
00:57:10Uninvolved
00:57:11Good father
00:57:12Like honestly
00:57:13Yeah
00:57:14He's quality
00:57:14He's high value
00:57:16He's attractive
00:57:16Yeah
00:57:17How about you Andrew
00:57:19Only one girl
00:57:20That I've ever dated
00:57:21Has met my daughters
00:57:22But it didn't
00:57:23You know
00:57:23It didn't work out
00:57:24Never since
00:57:24And I've been super
00:57:25Protective of them
00:57:26So no one else
00:57:27Has ever met my children
00:57:29I told myself
00:57:30That no one else would
00:57:31Unless I knew
00:57:32That that was going
00:57:33To be my person
00:57:34You've told
00:57:36Libby about your daughters
00:57:37I lead with it
00:57:38They're a huge part of my life
00:57:39So it's tough
00:57:40I mean you know this
00:57:41When you have kids
00:57:41It's like
00:57:42You know
00:57:42You don't want people
00:57:44Coming in and out
00:57:44Their lives
00:57:45You know
00:57:46And it's
00:57:46Libby showed you signs
00:57:47Of being that person
00:57:49I mean we're going to find out
00:57:50To be honest
00:57:51My situation is
00:57:53I have two children
00:57:54When did you share
00:57:55With her
00:57:56Your children
00:57:56I haven't
00:57:57I'm in boxes
00:57:58And so you know what
00:57:59She doesn't know you have kids
00:58:00No
00:58:00Wait
00:58:01I totally didn't even
00:58:03Think about the fact
00:58:04Does her have kids
00:58:06Yeah
00:58:06He does not have any kids
00:58:08Yay
00:58:08I don't think so
00:58:10I haven't really had
00:58:12So you're worried about that
00:58:13No I'm not worried about it at all
00:58:14Because if in fact
00:58:16We wouldn't have got here
00:58:17If that was in fact
00:58:18Right
00:58:18Right
00:58:18Right
00:58:19When I told her my age
00:58:21She didn't blink
00:58:22Vanell didn't care about my age
00:58:23And I was really happy
00:58:24I'm relieved about that
00:58:25But something that's weighing on me
00:58:27Something I really want to discuss with her
00:58:28Is my children
00:58:29And their ages
00:58:30Right
00:58:31So my kids age
00:58:32Are right around the same age as her
00:58:33And it's a concern
00:58:35Because I need to see her reaction
00:58:37And how she feels about it
00:58:38I believe that our connection
00:58:39Can withstand it
00:58:40But we're going to find out
00:58:41He doesn't want
00:58:42Kids outside of marriage
00:58:44Okay
00:58:44Perfect
00:58:45That's perfect
00:58:45I respect that
00:58:48Because I'm the same way
00:58:49Pray for me
00:58:50Pray for me
00:58:57Pray for me
00:58:58Pray for me
00:59:01Pray for me
00:59:04Pray for me
00:59:04Pray for me
00:59:04Pray for me
00:59:07You got the demons in my head
00:59:10Going crazy
00:59:11I can't bury them down
00:59:14Dancing around me like a looming shadow
00:59:17Waiting to watch me drown
00:59:20They want you
00:59:22And you're making waves
00:59:24Don't care
00:59:25How long it takes
00:59:28Take me down
00:59:29So where the devil lies
00:59:31Work your story
00:59:34I know that you'll treat me somewhere
00:59:41As you pull me down
00:59:44As you pull me down
00:59:44As you pull me down
00:59:44As you pull me down
00:59:44As you pull me down
00:59:45As you pull me down
00:59:45As you pull me down
00:59:48As you pull me down
00:59:48As you pull me down
00:59:48As you pull me down
00:59:48As you pull me down
00:59:49As you pull me down
00:59:49As you pull me down
00:59:49As you pull me down
00:59:50As you pull me down
00:59:51As you pull me down
00:59:54As you pull me down
00:59:58As you pull me down
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