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Crime in Progress - Season 1 - Episode 07: Mailman Murder
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00:099-1-1 address of the emergency yes hi i'm at sicily circle i need an ambulance our post office
00:17guy was
00:17just shot can you tell me where he was shot i don't know what to tell you i need help
00:29where
00:29is he bleeding from he's bleeding out of his mouth is he conscious is he breathing yes he he he
00:41is
00:41breathing he is breathing please send an ambulance okay ma'am i am sending them i am sending them
01:05so
01:10so
01:31We're at the corner of Heather Hill and Renaissance, and I'm out with Wheeler.
01:47I need you to go that way.
01:52About five or ten minutes ago, I heard three bang, bang, bang.
01:57Okay.
01:57And then I saw a guy with kind of about a sturdy guy with a jacket and gone into that
02:04direction.
02:05Let's start working south for a perimeter south, and then we'll get him set up east.
02:11Hang tight for just a second.
02:13Set up east.
02:15Here, hold him medical.
02:17Should we set him in?
02:17I did.
02:18Set him in.
02:19DB240-122-122-122.
02:21I told him to set him in.
02:23Copy there.
02:24We'll get him that way.
02:26Which way did you see him running?
02:27Huh?
02:28Which way did you see him running?
02:29I saw him.
02:30He's a close tail, and then run, run, run, run.
02:34Hey, Josh.
02:34Hold real quick.
02:36He went south from here.
02:38Can you just start mobile right now?
02:43Not the street.
02:44Not the street.
02:45That's the Heather Hill circle.
02:47Mm-hmm.
02:47He can run in that direction.
02:49Just cut into it.
02:51Hey, Pierce.
02:52Last information, he was running southbound and then headed southeast from Heather Hill circle
02:58diagonally through the houses.
02:59Go!
03:00Go!
03:16You guys here?
03:19I'm not close to it.
03:20I'll get a sheriff, Stephanie.
03:21Can you give me a favor?
03:22Go sit at Heather Hill circle in Renaissance right there.
03:24Just hold for right now.
03:28South to work on a perimeter.
03:30Okay.
03:30Southeast.
03:32Last scene, Heather Hill circle running diagonally southeast.
03:37Suction is necessary.
03:38I don't think like in any area.
03:40Heather Hill circle.
03:40I need suction ASAP.
03:42Pick him up.
03:43Pick him up.
03:44Pick him up.
03:44Pick him up.
03:45Pick him up.
03:47Pick him up.
03:49Where else?
03:50He said no air.
03:51No air.
03:52Stand by.
03:53Just throw him on the bench.
03:53One.
03:54Two.
03:55Three.
03:56We're going to see the description.
03:57Ma'am.
03:58First.
03:59Who do you possibly blew up with a man?
04:01All right.
04:02I'm going to get tape and start.
04:07I'm going to get tape and start taping it up.
04:12So did you see the person?
04:13Did you see him?
04:15Yeah.
04:15Could you tell, was he white, black, Hispanic?
04:19Looks like, I'm sorry, white.
04:22White?
04:23Okay.
04:24And a guy.
04:25How tall do you think he was?
04:27Could you tell?
04:28Similar to yours.
04:29Okay.
04:30Like my, your, this kind of height.
04:39That's a brown hair witness.
04:41It was dark colored pants, not blue jeans.
04:44Dark grayish jacket.
04:45Did not have a hat or a hoodie on.
04:48And believes it's a white male around 5'11".
04:50Lasting south eastbound on Heather Hill running through the house.
04:54Christie.
04:55Christie.
04:56Christie.
04:58Span it up to here.
05:00Bring that to this box.
05:01And then when they're out, we'll go across.
05:03Yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:04So I'm just trying to.
05:05Yeah, just bring it to this here.
05:07Okay, hold it.
05:07Okay.
05:08Yeah.
05:09Hey.
05:09Which way are you guys going?
05:10We're calling him.
05:11And we gotta get everybody out of here.
05:13So, for our safety.
05:15Is the police officer gonna go behind us?
05:17Well, we're not getting shot and killed.
05:19So, yeah.
05:20So we, we've got those.
05:20So what we'll do, we can't have you go.
05:22But so far, um, we're good in this area.
05:25Cause we're gonna have like 20 cops here.
05:27Is it a handgun or a rifle?
05:29Yeah.
05:29So just hang tight one second.
05:31Hang tight.
05:31Yeah.
05:48Oh, what's going on?
05:52Uh, we've got a crime scene over here.
05:54Okay, so this is a little bit, it's in Sicily Drive.
05:59So we thought on Sicily Circle it wasn't a problem.
06:02Yeah, no, it was actually right here.
06:04Right over here.
06:05Or should we stay at the house or?
06:06I don't know if you've got the reverse 911 call, but there is still a suspect at large
06:10in the neighborhood.
06:11So just be aware of that.
06:14Uh, I would advise that.
06:16Do you guys have cameras?
06:19We do.
06:19Right across?
06:20Can you look, go look at your cameras for me?
06:22I can't, I can't see anything.
06:24I was trying to see it.
06:26It's, it's not the very original map of your house.
06:30If you can see within the last maybe 20 minutes anybody that matches the description of the
06:35suspect walking by, can you do that?
06:41Yeah, but if he walked by prior to the incident.
06:44Does that make sense?
06:46Yeah, and if you can get, if you know any of your neighbors that have cameras to do the
06:50same thing, check like even an hour, see if he's casing, you know, up and down the.
06:56See, it happened at 1231.
06:59I was in my garage cleaning out.
07:00You heard it?
07:01I heard five shots.
07:02Okay.
07:03That's gunshots.
07:04All right.
07:04I should remember that.
07:06You said 1231?
07:071231.
07:07I looked at my wife and I just pulled in five minutes earlier.
07:11Was it, was he here?
07:12He was here.
07:13He was here.
07:13He was here.
07:15And I heard the shot.
07:17It was a big gun.
07:18Okay.
07:19Big gun?
07:20Yeah.
07:20I think it was so surprising.
07:22It wasn't a small gun at all.
07:23Okay.
07:23I'm just going to walk over here and see if I can't find.
07:42I got, this guy heard five shots.
07:45So I've got a shell with casing right here.
07:49Um, I have, looks like it was possibly coming from this direction because I have something
07:57hitting the sidewalk here.
08:01Here's this shell casing here, shell casing here, shell casing here.
08:04Who after you got here?
08:06Um, huh?
08:07Who after you got here?
08:08Uh, Douglas got here.
08:09And I forgot to hit my recorder.
08:12I hit it.
08:13Later.
08:14Wait, I apologize.
08:15Let's have you step out of there.
08:22Yeah.
08:23We saw the event part of it.
08:28So, I'm sorry.
08:30Absolutely.
08:31Yes, sir.
08:37Hello.
08:38How you doing, sir?
08:40I was on Pike and it becomes Renaissance from either Maxwell or Petro.
08:46Yes, my name's John.
08:47My name's John.
08:47I'm John.
08:47Yeah.
08:48Is it okay?
08:48We go in the house.
08:49My back is bad.
08:50I can't stand for very long.
08:51Let's go in the house.
08:52Don't give you the intro, John.
08:54We were in the house.
08:55We heard boom, boom, boom, boom.
08:59Annette came out of her office and she said, I think something just happened to our mailman.
09:03And, uh, take him up to your office and show him the note he looked out of.
09:14Sitting at my desk.
09:15I know the mailman comes noonish, so I had seen the truck out there.
09:20I saw a man in a hoodie jogging on that path.
09:26So I saw him jog on that path and then I saw him cut over to the road and I
09:31didn't follow
09:32where he went from there.
09:34I didn't see a gun.
09:36I didn't see anything in his hands or anything like that.
09:39Just a jogging pace.
09:42The postman was taking a breath or two, but I think those were his last breaths.
09:50And, uh, when did you call 911?
09:53Was it up here?
09:55It was down the street.
09:56It was at 1233.
09:59Hello, sir.
10:00Hello, sir.
10:01Hey, question for you.
10:02Do you have any, like, ring doorbell cameras?
10:05Uh, exterior cameras?
10:06Actually do.
10:09Okay.
10:10Do you mind if we take a look?
10:11We just want to kind of look and see what was down there.
10:13Absolutely okay.
10:13I hope anything.
10:14I hope some man's going on.
10:16Yeah, unfortunately, there is, but...
10:18Somebody you're looking for.
10:19Um, yeah, we're looking to see what we can find on camera in the neighborhood.
10:23Okay.
10:23All right.
10:24Coming out the front door.
10:25We're looking for around noonish to 1230.
10:29Did you hear or see anything suspicious around this area?
10:32I see that you have cameras.
10:33I just looked at all, nothing.
10:34Have you heard anything in the last hour and a half or so?
10:38You did not hear anything.
10:39I know you heard a bunch of sirens.
10:40Well, I walked, I mean, frankly, my neighbor and I walked over and we saw what happened.
10:44Okay.
10:44So, we talked to the neighbor there.
10:46I'm the president of the HOA.
10:47Okay.
10:47So, are you able to communicate with your HOA and everybody?
10:51And send out an email.
10:52Yeah.
10:52Ask them to check there if anybody has doorbells, cameras, stuff like that.
10:56Yeah.
10:56For any suspicious activity between 1145 and 1245.
11:03Okay.
11:09So, here's kind of where, here he is walking up.
11:13Oh, he walked around, but he walked behind those houses.
11:17And you'll hear the gunshots, actually.
11:19But, here's a man.
11:19Ooh.
11:26Yeah.
11:36So, let's see.
11:38You too.
11:44Goodbye.
11:44Can I get that light?
11:46Bye.
11:48I don't know.
12:31We learned the name of the postal carrier targeted in a deadly shooting in Longmont.
12:36Jason Schaefer was killed just doing his job right here delivering mail to a quiet neighborhood.
13:09I have a resident that has an older detached garage and she's concerned that the suspect might be in her
13:16garage.
13:17And Frankie, get another unit over here.
13:21Copy, take.
13:27121.
13:29A little bit seriously in the garage.
13:34I'll pop it.
13:35Yeah, go ahead and pop it.
13:45Longmont Police Department.
13:47Anybody inside, make yourself known now.
14:04Make sure you check up high.
14:13Drywall ceiling.
14:16What's in?
14:17High corner, here's clear.
14:27Can I get these back up if you pull them?
14:29There you go.
14:31There you go.
14:33There you go.
14:55Police Department, you're in the attic.
14:56Come down now.
14:58You need to show me your hands.
15:14I know you're up there.
15:16Come down now.
15:22Come on.
15:33Clear.
15:34I'm up here.
15:35Yep.
15:36Yep, I'm good.
15:43Clear.
16:11I've got a citizen report.
16:12He saw a dark-colored Nissan SUV at the far south dead end of Redathon Drive.
16:19It's about an hour ago.
16:20We've got the suspect vehicles of a 2017 black Nissan Rogue.
16:24Per a witness, the male suspect was seen in that vehicle.
16:29CBS 4's Alan Junaid live with an update.
16:32Alan, still no sign of the shooter.
16:34No, Jim.
16:35And police have now cleared the scene behind the other mailboxes where this postal worker
16:39was when he was shot this afternoon.
16:41As to motive, there is nothing yet.
16:54The person in the civil economy may have a good idea who could be a possible male suspect.
17:05Hi.
17:07Hi.
17:08You can say, say, say, do whatever you like to do.
17:11So, my name is John.
17:13I'm a detective with Long & Long PD.
17:15Well, what's your involvement?
17:16I'm the supervisor, but he's also a really good friend.
17:19Okay.
17:21He's been, like, telling me what's going on with his situation.
17:24I mean, right now, this is what worries me.
17:27On Friday, his lawyer just filed papers for, they've been going through a big custody battle,
17:33but she hasn't been speaking to him at all.
17:35So, he filed some more papers so that he could get more time.
17:39And I know she probably would have been served today, guest chair today.
17:42So, this is?
17:43That's the baby.
17:45This is a six-year-old.
17:47Like, the mother of the six-year-old.
17:50Okay.
17:51What is her name?
17:52Her name is Devin.
17:54Devin.
17:54D-E-V-A-N.
17:56And then it's Shriner is her last name.
17:58So, there's some kind of child custody paperwork that you put on the concert today?
18:02So, they have kind of joint custody.
18:04But, like, she's stopped responding to any of his messages.
18:09She won't respond to his lawyer.
18:11Just, like, she'll send, like, really mean messages.
18:15I mean, she's, like, she's crazy.
18:17From what I know of her, she's crazy.
18:20But I don't know if she's this crazy.
18:33Your name is Vicki, correct?
18:35Yes.
18:37How can I help you?
18:38I know some of the carriers, but we try to stay just because the most close to them than I
18:49do.
18:49Because when it comes to discipline, it's me.
18:53All I know, all I can tell you is that he was having a problem with his baby at home.
18:57She did work for us for a brief moment.
19:00I thought she was a little bit strange and all.
19:03So, the job wasn't right for her.
19:06I never heard that and the fact that she was constantly furious.
19:09Do you know anything about anyone else that she would have been dating, possibly?
19:13She got a boyfriend that threatened him.
19:16How long ago was that that you heard that?
19:20This had to have been in August.
19:24August, you heard that?
19:25And I want to say it was around August because when I ask something, I say,
19:29is it something that we need to be aware of?
19:31Do I need to change your route?
19:32Do I need to change the setup?
19:34Do she know your route?
19:35What do you want me to do?
19:36And you say, you'll take care of it.
19:37But for safety reasons, we try to avoid as much as this is possible.
19:41Yeah.
19:42And unfortunately, no one can predict it.
19:44I know that.
19:46But I got to explain this to 170 people.
19:49Yeah.
19:51Yeah.
19:52Yeah.
20:12I'm going to shut this door, but just for privacy, okay?
20:16Um, I can only imagine what you're going through.
20:20Um, I'm not even going to pretend to understand, but there's a lot going on here.
20:25Um, and you're, so just let me make sure I have all the names right.
20:28Your current boyfriend.
20:30Is Jesus.
20:31Right.
20:31Wait, okay.
20:32And your sister is Devin?
20:35Mm-hmm.
20:35Okay.
20:38So obviously a lot of different dynamics with this relationship.
20:43Um, just with, with Devin being your sister.
20:45She's just extremely angry with the fact that I have what she wants, which is a family.
20:52And I don't know why.
20:54I was just like, I feel like Devin's going to be mad and she's going to try to do something.
21:00So you think whoever did this, you think it was somebody who targeted Jason.
21:04You don't think it was somebody random.
21:06No.
21:06If I'm being honest, I think it came from her.
21:09And I think it was somebody, her boyfriend, AJ, whatever.
21:13Can you tell me more about what maybe made you think that?
21:17In the past, there should be kind of a friend of Jason.
21:19She was like, AJ knows where you live and he has his guns.
21:24And they said he was shot, of course.
21:28Immediately thought of AJ.
21:30Do you know if Devin has access to guns?
21:35AJ gave her a gun once.
21:37So absolutely in your mind, you think that this came from Devin?
21:40Whether she did it herself or she had something else to inform her?
21:43No, no, no doubt about it.
21:45Wow.
21:46Absolutely.
21:47Okay.
21:48It's not easy to talk about.
21:51Thank you, Rosa.
21:53It was nice to meet you.
22:08Just answer the phone, ask her questions.
22:10We're not here.
22:11She didn't come pick up the kid.
22:14This is Ren.
22:15Can I help you?
22:25No, Jason has not picked up yet.
22:28Okay, well, I don't know what's happening because people keep calling me and telling me that something has happened to
22:35Jason.
22:35And if he hasn't picked up, that makes me wonder if something did actually happen.
22:40I don't know if I'm going to be able to get there.
22:43Sam, we need to stand by.
22:44I'm in Fort Collins right now, so I wasn't supposed to have him save Jason.
22:53So let me see what I can figure out.
22:56And if Jason ends up showing up in the next 30 minutes, can you let me know?
23:01Because I need to try to get a hold of him, too.
23:03I don't know what's happening.
23:04Sure.
23:05I absolutely will.
23:06Yeah.
23:07Okay.
23:07Great.
23:08Thank you so much.
23:09Okay.
23:10Good job.
23:10Sam, 180.
23:12Just be advised, the suspect called, said she was in Fort Collins.
23:17She says she is unable to come get him at the moment.
23:21Yeah, 180.
23:22I copy.
23:27Hi, I was transferred to you.
23:30I've been getting a lot of calls from people that I know saying that there may have been
23:34an accident with my son's father.
23:37What's your name?
23:38Devin Schreiner.
23:40Okay.
23:41Yeah, there's been an incident.
23:43And so we're trying to figure out what's going on.
23:46Can you tell me what's happening?
23:47Because everybody just keeps saying there's an accident and my son is supposed to be with
23:51him right now.
23:52We have the son.
23:53He's fine.
23:54You have my son?
23:55Yep.
23:55Why?
23:56I don't understand why nobody called me.
23:58Well, let's figure out what's going on.
24:00Are you able to come down to the police department?
24:01I mean, you have my son.
24:03Yes, of course I'm coming down there.
24:23Hi.
24:23Hi.
24:24Are you Devin?
24:25Yes.
24:25Hi, Devin.
24:25I'm Detective Jones.
24:27Hi.
24:27Thank you for coming down.
24:28Yes.
24:28We're going to go right over here.
24:29Where is my son?
24:31I'm not sure where he is exactly, but we're going to come this way and we'll see if we're
24:34going to tell you what's going to happen.
24:35I need my son.
24:35I need my son.
24:36I need my son.
24:37Somebody needs to tell me where he is.
24:38Okay.
24:39And we'll find that out right away.
24:45This is just our...
24:46We're going to go right here.
24:49I think they're going to bring him down this way.
24:51Okay.
24:51Well, I need him.
24:52I need him to be here now.
24:53Who is he with?
24:54He's going to be with an officer right now, so...
24:57I need to know where my kid is and I need to know what's happening because nobody's telling
25:00me anything.
25:01I'm sure they're bringing somebody down.
25:03We're going to tell you what's going to happen.
25:04Do you want to take a seat for a second?
25:06You can stay standing if you'd like, but...
25:09Okay.
25:11It sounds like somebody's coming here.
25:12Just a second.
25:12Let me make sure somebody's on their way.
25:21Do you have custody of your kiddo?
25:23Me and his father shared half and half custody.
25:28Okay.
25:28Okay.
25:29And we'll get all that taken care of and figure it out here.
25:33We definitely know your son is safe.
25:35And...
25:35You know he's safe.
25:36I don't know he's safe.
25:37Nobody called me.
25:39Okay.
25:39Okay.
25:40Okay.
25:40Okay.
25:40This one will be here in one sec and he's got more answers than I do.
25:42Where is my son?
25:43I haven't seen him and I don't know what's happened.
25:46He was taken from his school without my knowledge or consent.
25:50And I don't...
25:50I don't know what's happened to his father.
25:52So I need to...
25:53Where is he?
25:55He needs to be here.
26:03I don't really care.
26:06I just...
26:06I want my son.
26:07Where is my son?
26:08I'll tell you everything.
26:09Come up here.
26:11Steve.
26:13Um...
26:13You're Devon?
26:14Yes.
26:15Am I pronouncing it right?
26:16Yes.
26:17I'm Steve.
26:17You can call me Steve.
26:19Um...
26:19We've got to kind of step back here a little bit.
26:21I've got to tell you some bad news.
26:25Um...
26:25Your ex-boyfriend...
26:27Your ex-boyfriend is it?
26:27Ex-husband?
26:28It's just...
26:28I just call him my son's dad.
26:30Son's dad?
26:31We were never married but...
26:32He died today.
26:38What?
26:39How?
26:39What happened?
26:41Someone shot him in the face.
26:42In the face?
26:44Where?
26:46I've got a lot to share with you.
26:48I want to tell you that your son's safe right now.
26:51Um...
26:52But I want to read your rights just so you know about it.
26:55Read me my rights?
26:56Yeah.
26:56Just to get it out of the way.
26:59For what reason?
27:00Well, it's a...
27:01You know, your son's dad died today.
27:04So we want to at least ask you some questions about your due diligence.
27:07Maybe you know something about it.
27:09I...
27:09I was at work today.
27:11Perfect.
27:11You've got a good excuse.
27:14Um...
27:14Shouldn't be a big deal.
27:16But...
27:16I want to ask you about it.
27:17I want to exonerate you if possible and then move on to the next suspect.
27:22So let me read your rights.
27:23Dad, I've got the right to rent silence.
27:24Anything you say it can and will be used against you in a court of law.
27:27And, uh, have any of your rights in mind?
27:29Can I talk to you now?
27:30Yes.
27:31Do you know of anyone that want to get, uh, Jason in trouble?
27:34In trouble?
27:35No.
27:36Or out to get him?
27:37Want to shoot him?
27:38No.
27:38I don't know anybody that would want to hurt him.
27:42I don't think this is a coincidence that your, your, uh, your ex got shot in the face today.
27:47It looked like a hit.
27:49Looks like someone pulled up, ran out, shot him, ran back to the car, sped off.
27:54Fired five times.
27:56They didn't steal anything from him.
27:58There wasn't a road rage case.
28:01Um, someone shot him because they were really upset with him.
28:03They shot him with cold blood.
28:05They shot him five times and got a plate to death there.
28:07That's someone who knows this guy.
28:09And you know him very well.
28:12Are you involved in it?
28:13Because someone is there doing this.
28:15It's not a random shooting.
28:18I understand why I would be a suspect because of who I am related to him.
28:24But I was at work on my route.
28:27I believe you have some knowledge of this.
28:30If your boyfriend or your friend or some, some guy you hired maybe to beat him up,
28:35things went too far, this is the time to come forward and come clean and let me know.
28:40Did you have AJ do something?
28:41Do you think AJ was involved in something like this?
28:44Do you think?
28:44No.
28:45I think you're definitely involved in this.
28:46But maybe, maybe you're down here where you're just trying to prevent something.
28:51Whoever's there, maybe they went too far and you didn't know it.
28:55So that's why I'm trying to give you some, some type of plausible deniability.
28:58Because something happened and you're involved somehow to some degree.
29:04But if there's someone else involved in this, we're going to find out.
29:26How are you?
29:28Are you AJ?
29:29Yeah.
29:30AJ, my name is Inspector Chris Lucas.
29:31I'm a federal agent.
29:32Okay.
29:33United States Postal Inspection Services.
29:35Okay.
29:35We just want to talk to you a little bit about a lady by the name of Devin.
29:38Shriner.
29:39Do you know her?
29:40Yeah.
29:40How do you know her?
29:41She's a friend.
29:42So, I mean, it's pretty important why we're here.
29:45Yeah.
29:46I saw the news reports.
29:48Were you home today or were you working or?
29:50I was home.
29:51Okay.
29:51Did she stop by here?
29:53She delivers mail out here.
29:55What time was she here?
29:5611 something to probably about 12, 15.
30:00You know, the timeline's important to us.
30:02Right.
30:02So she was here around 11 and she stayed till 12, 15.
30:07Yeah.
30:08And I left and went to Hoogers and ate with some friends.
30:11Okay.
30:11And she went back and didn't even want.
30:13And so when you left here, was she still here?
30:16I left and she was in her truck.
30:17And so you left about 12, 15-ish.
30:20When you left, she was still sitting in her truck.
30:22Right.
30:23And did you think that she could be violent at all?
30:25Did you ever think that or?
30:27Do I think she's capable of killing somebody?
30:29I don't.
30:30So, I don't have more questions.
30:32A couple things that we'll follow up on.
30:34I'd just be 100% honest.
30:35It's a murder investigation.
30:36Yeah.
30:37Do you have any questions for me right now?
30:39No.
30:39I mean, I asked you first.
30:41All right.
31:02All right.
31:03All right.
31:03All right.
31:10All right.
31:12My name's Ken.
31:13So, I know you work for the post office and have worked for the post office.
31:17Mm-hmm.
31:18So, because this is kind of postal related and you're working today, I want me to chitchat
31:22with you about kind of what happened and some of your activities today, okay?
31:32Well, let's start off with, are you comfortable where you're sitting or would you rather sit?
31:37I don't really do.
31:38Okay.
31:39Yeah.
31:39I just really want my kid and that's not happening, so.
31:42Yeah.
31:43Well, first off, I'm sorry about what's happened today.
31:47Today's been a stressful day for you, for your child.
31:51So, I understand that.
31:53Mm-hmm.
31:54I don't think you do.
31:56Well, I can empathize with the fact that it's, it's probably one of the worst days in
32:00your life.
32:02So, I don't.
32:02Well, on top of what happened, my child was picked up from, by the police from school
32:07and I was not contacted.
32:09Okay.
32:09I understand.
32:10I'm a father.
32:11I've got kids myself.
32:13That would upset me too.
32:14I'm sure he's being taken care of right now, but let me start off with today.
32:18When did you get to work?
32:19I got to work about, I don't know, quarter to eight, eight o'clock.
32:24Okay.
32:24And I started delivering about 10.30.
32:27What time did you get off work?
32:31Almost five.
32:32So, you got back into your Nissan.
32:34Was it, it was at the post office?
32:37And then you drove the Nissan from work to home?
32:43Yes.
32:43Is that what you're saying?
32:44Yes.
32:45Okay.
32:45Does anybody else drive that vehicle or is that just your car?
32:49No, it's mine.
32:50Are you the only one that has keys to the car?
32:53Uh, yeah.
32:54There's no spare keys for the car or anything like that?
32:57I mean, I have a spare set somewhere in my house, but...
33:01But you said you live by yourself?
33:03Yeah.
33:03AJ doesn't come over and live with you at all?
33:06Okay.
33:09Um, is there a way that I can be escorted to the bathroom?
33:14Yeah.
33:15Yeah, we'll go to the bathroom.
33:16Can I show you this first if you don't mind?
33:18That's good.
33:20Okay.
33:20Do you mind if I sit here?
33:21I don't want to invade your space.
33:23I'll sit right here for you.
33:28Oh, wow.
33:29Yeah.
33:30So...
33:32So, what happened in this general area, Renaissance Drive and Heather Hill Circle.
33:37Okay.
33:38One of the things that we went out and did today, or the police department did, and they
33:44had a lot of help, is they pulled surveillance video from a lot of different locations in the
33:52area.
33:52Yes.
33:53They actually captured what happened on one of the surveillance videos.
33:59That's what the detective said.
34:01Okay.
34:01They also captured the vehicle that was involved on the surveillance footage.
34:09And they captured the license plate.
34:13Okay.
34:13And it was your vehicle.
34:26So, you know what almost every house has these days?
34:30They have cameras.
34:32So, we have your car over there.
34:35You already told me you're the only person that drives that vehicle.
34:39I also told you I was at work, and nobody seems to believe that either.
34:42Now, we understand that you are at work for part of the time.
34:44I believe that.
34:45I didn't say that either.
34:47Say what?
34:48I didn't say part of the time.
34:50I said I was at work all of the time.
34:51Okay.
34:51Your vehicle was over there where this happened at the time that it happened.
34:56We have witnesses, and we have surveillance footage.
34:59I don't have an answer for that.
35:01Okay.
35:01You don't have an answer.
35:02You have like zero answer.
35:04How do you think something like that could happen?
35:06I'm going to ask to speak to a lawyer.
35:09Okay.
35:09If we're going to continue with this questioning.
35:11I don't have an answer for that.
35:17So, here's the situation.
35:19I need you to go ahead and turn around for me.
35:21Turn around.
35:22Put your hands behind your back.
35:24Can I raise your fingers?
35:26Do not move, okay?
35:36All right.
35:36Two are under arrest, okay?
35:38So, we're going to take you downstairs.
35:39We are going to get your clothing, and we'll let you put a bathroom down there, okay?
35:44Right this way.
36:24We just want to kind of clean up some of the stuff with Devin and her timeline.
36:28One of the things you told me is that she drives, uh, like a Nissan Rogue or Milano.
36:34Is that correct?
36:36Okay.
36:36So, this is her car on the license plate reader back in May.
36:41That's her car.
36:45That's her car.
36:47This is down at the scene, the neighborhood of the shooting.
36:53See the time, 12.06.
36:55Uh, that's her car.
36:57So, originally you told us that she was up there at your house with you until 12.15 when you
37:02left to go to Hooters.
37:03Can you explain that?
37:04Yeah.
37:06Yeah.
37:07She does not listen.
37:12Um...
37:13Well, she wasn't.
37:14Do you have any idea what that picture is right there?
37:18Looks like GPS.
37:21So, those are phone signals coming from your phone down in the Longmont area in the same neighborhood as the
37:29shooting.
37:29So, we know that you were in Longmont that morning.
37:31You're a smart guy.
37:32I think you know where we're going with this.
37:36This morning she told me that she was going to do anything.
37:39I tried to talk her out of it.
37:40And she told me that there was no time around.
37:43So, I went out there.
37:44I knew his route number.
37:46I found him and I told him that he should watch out for her.
37:50And he said, I'm not scared of that bitch.
37:52How long do you think you were following him for?
37:56Um, most of the morning I was going to start this route.
37:59Okay.
37:59Because she told me first thing in the morning when I dropped her off at work that that was going
38:06to be the day.
38:07And I was like, do what?
38:08She was like, I'm going to get rid of Jason today.
38:11I was like, I don't think that's a good idea.
38:14She was like, no, I'm done with this.
38:16She said that he did something with their parenting agreement that he was getting full custody and that Rosa was
38:23going to step in and be the mom.
38:24And their, that side of the family was going to be able to provide better for her.
38:30She was going to be able to.
38:32So, you know that she wants to kill this guy.
38:35So much so to the extent that you go down to where his mail route is to keep an eye
38:40on him just in case she shows up so that you can confront her.
38:43Correct.
38:44But you didn't feel like it was serious enough to notify the police, say, hey, she's going to kill this
38:48guy.
38:49Why didn't you tell anyone?
38:50I mean, I'd say it's 2020, but I thought I could talk her down.
38:54You didn't tell anyone.
38:55You did think she was going to do it.
38:57You went down there to warn him.
38:59You're saying that you believed it so much.
39:01You went all the way down to Longmont to follow a mail truck around for two or three hours.
39:07That's how much you believed it.
39:09And you didn't tell anyone else.
39:11That's what I'm supposed to believe?
39:13What I thought she...
39:14Why did you go down there to follow him around if you didn't think that's what she was going to
39:18do?
39:19Because I wanted to stop her if she came out there.
39:21So you did think she was on her way to go down there as well?
39:23I didn't discuss with her about going and killing someone.
39:26So you just helped her cover it up afterwards by not telling anybody.
39:29And by lying about it.
39:31Alright, you're under arrest.
39:32Go ahead and stand up.
39:33Place your hands behind your back.
39:34It's impossible to do that out there in the parking lot.
39:38No.
39:38No.
39:39Stand up for him.
39:41For him right now.
39:51Yes.
39:52No, we're going to be creating the personal murder.
39:54This is a murder case.
39:57Let's go.
39:58All right.
39:58Let's get on.
40:00CBS 4's Kelly Werthmann joining us ahead of a vigil for Schaefer tonight.
40:05Kelly, you have new information on the second person now arrested.
40:08Jim, Longmont police have arrested a man they say was complicit in the murder that happened here just last week.
40:1534-year-old Andrew Ritchie was taken into custody last night on charges for complicity to commit first-degree murder.
40:40Hi.
40:41Hi, dear. Are you okay? What's wrong?
40:46There's more news today.
40:49What happened?
40:57AJ was telling them everything, as well as they found a picture of you in the outfit.
41:10Hmm.
41:17I'm sorry, you had to hear all that on the news?
41:21There's a lot stacked against you.
41:28I'm sure there is.
41:36I don't know how that's going to happen.
41:40We'll let the lawyers worry about that.
41:45Guilty. That's the verdict for a woman on trial for killing a postal worker in Longmont.
41:49Jason Schaefer was shot and killed while on the job.
41:52Police later arrested his ex-girlfriend, Devin Schreiner.
41:55Well, today a jury found her guilty of first-degree murder.
41:58She was immediately sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
42:13Today the U.S. Postal Service of Colorado had a procession in Schaefer's honor.
42:1847 postal trucks driving the same delivery route he was driving.
42:23Well, it was stirring how people came together tonight in this upscale neighborhood.
42:27The stories they shared of an adoration for Jason Schaefer by the people who lived around here.
42:34And the love of his co-workers who said he had lifted them up.
42:39Evening, everyone.
42:39As a cool October evening grew dark and chilly, well over a hundred people protected by the warmth of their
42:45candles paid tribute to Jason Schaefer.
42:47He'll always be my son. I always called him kiddo.
42:50As they raise candles this night, the loss that breaks many hearts is only becoming clearer.
42:55I just don't know what to say. I'm going to miss him so much.
43:10I want to miss you.
43:10After a story that was taken, I guess, a little bit.
43:10And the love of his men.
43:10Jesus Christ has been with you, as a resident of the world.
43:11And I guess he's a little bit, I can't be a little bit of a relationship.
43:11Please be sure to stay while on the start of the world.
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