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Brian Scalabrine from NBC Sports Boston joins Rich, Ken, and Ted to discuss the fallout from the Celtics loss to the Sixers in Game 7, and what the future of the team looks like.
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00:00Mr. Bryant Scalabrini from NBC Sports Boston.
00:02Scal, man, it's good talking to you again.
00:05It is good talking to you, man.
00:06You know, people say, you know, I had a line one time.
00:09I'm closer to LeBron than you are to me.
00:12I'm way closer to you now than I am to LeBron.
00:17It is weird.
00:18I can't.
00:20Tell him, man.
00:20It happens to everybody.
00:22It does.
00:22It certainly does, brother.
00:24It does, man.
00:26It is wild, Scal.
00:27It's like, honestly, every year, some new place packages the Scalage.
00:32If you don't know what the Scalage was, it was a great thing that we did where, you know,
00:36some people would call in and be like, oh, I could kick Scal's ass, you know.
00:39And Scal was just like, dude, find the best players you can find.
00:43Literally the best players.
00:44Have them send in videos, and I'll do one-on-one.
00:46He destroyed every single one of them.
00:49And then we did a three-on-one, and then it was probably one of the most –
00:52I got rejected.
00:52The ball I don't think has landed yet by Scal.
00:56That was a fun time, though.
00:58The other day at the garden, the other day at the garden, it was so funny.
01:01I've had a lot of interactions at the garden, but, you know, this one really stood out.
01:04This kid comes up to me and goes, oh, my God, you are.
01:07Oh, my God, you are.
01:09Oh, my God, you are better than people think you are.
01:14Yeah.
01:16You're right, little man.
01:17I am better than people think I was.
01:20Well, Scal, I wanted to have you on because after the game, you and Eddie House together,
01:27it was some of the best television because you were saying everything that I think everyone was thinking.
01:33And to be quite honest, to hear it come from you and Eddie, guys who, like, wore the uniform.
01:40Like, wore?
01:41Yeah, you're right.
01:42It, like, hit even harder and was more true.
01:45So just kind of take us through, like, what you thought of that historic collapse and what you were feeling
01:53afterwards.
01:54I mean, I do think that, you know, for one sense, we overachieved, no doubt.
02:01You know, like, I'm a Celtic guy, and I was like, man, it would be great if we can be
02:05right out of the plan.
02:06Maybe we're in the plan, but I don't think anybody would want to play us in the first round.
02:11And I actually really liked the matchup.
02:13I did.
02:13You know, I liked the idea, like, you know, Paul George hasn't played well in, like, three or four years.
02:18You know, you never know what you're going to get with Embiid, but we always remember Embiid, like, kind of
02:22folding in the playoffs.
02:23That was, you know, Maxie, but Edgcombe is young, but, you know, Philly delivered.
02:28But to me, it always comes down to this.
02:30And I know that internally they deal with things differently than they do externally.
02:37When they talk to the media, it's all, like, the same stuff, right?
02:42Man, we just missed shots.
02:43If we would have made some shots, we would have won the game.
02:46You know, Embiid came back, and what are we supposed to do with Embiid back?
02:51And, like, that's not the job, right?
02:53The job is to figure it out.
02:55What are you supposed to do with Embiid?
02:57What are you supposed to do when you have a lead, you know, in game five at home?
03:01What are you supposed to do?
03:02You're not supposed to go four for 20.
03:04You're not supposed to, you know, when we were running down and down by one,
03:09and Cade is wide open underneath the basket, we spray out for Pritchard for a three, right?
03:13There's a lot of different decisions that you can go back and say,
03:18well, this one would have made a difference, and that one would have made a difference.
03:20But it was just sort of frustrating.
03:23You know, it does feel like the team, when they get up big,
03:28they kind of let their foot off the gas, or they go away from what got them there and all
03:32that.
03:32And, you know, that's where you would hope that they would learn their lesson from last year.
03:37And I thought this year was one of my favorite teams to cover, by far.
03:40Like, I thought the idea, like, I was all in.
03:44Loved Joe with the margins.
03:45Like, they hustled.
03:46They created turnovers.
03:47They took care of the ball.
03:49The offensive rebound, right?
03:51They don't foul.
03:52Like, they do everything that you want them to do, everything that they say.
03:56And I thought, like, the restrictions of not being that good allowed them to be great.
04:01Like, it almost, like, all the restrictions of, like, man, we're not going to have this guy, this guy, and
04:05that guy.
04:06All of a sudden, it allowed them to grow.
04:08But then, when we get to the playoffs, we lost our entire identity.
04:11And it was really disappointing.
04:13And I felt like they played with somewhat of a little bit of an arrogance.
04:17Like, of course, we're going to win.
04:19We're Boston.
04:20We always win.
04:21But it's just two years in a row.
04:22We're two and five in the last seven games on our home court.
04:27And I think that's really disappointing when you think about it.
04:30Scout, you know, you talk about winning on the margins.
04:32You kept saying it correctly.
04:34I would say, you know, you've got to play the margin players, the guys that were, you know, that kind
04:39of got you there.
04:39You've got to dance with the guys that got you there.
04:41And, you know, they shortened the bench for most of the series.
04:44And then, all of a sudden, that starting lineup that Joe put out there in the biggest game of the
04:49season, you know, they played their bench guys.
04:52He started his bench guys with Shireman, Garza, you know, and Harper Jr.
04:58What did you think of that lineup?
05:00What did you make of it?
05:00What was Joe thinking by starting those guys?
05:04Well, here's the deal.
05:05Like, if you can get something from those guys, the best time to do it is to be a starter.
05:10Like, let's say Ron Harper makes, like, one of two shots or whatever, right?
05:14Let's say he makes something.
05:15And that lineup, which hasn't played a single minute all season long, but I had guys that I could understand,
05:22like, they'll execute a game plan.
05:24And minus, like, them missing shots, because that was really just, like, they did a good job of – Embiid
05:30was in the action, like, two or three times.
05:33When I say that, it's like running a pick-and-roll at Embiid, running a dribble handoff at Embiid.
05:38The execution of the game plan was good.
05:40So, I know that they were down, but I don't think that's the reason why they lost the game.
05:44That's not – that's not the reason.
05:46Like, game seven was game seven, and Philly played really well.
05:49You know, like, maybe a little three-happy late.
05:52But the starting group was not the reason that they lost the game.
05:55You can go back to the third quarter, the way we played in the third quarter.
05:58Then we walked down the lead in the fourth, and it was a, you know, a two-point game, a
06:02one-point game at one point.
06:03I mean, I don't actually believe that the reason that they lost was because of the starters.
06:09And also, remember, if you can get, like, five to seven minutes from Ron Harper Jr. right then and there,
06:15then you might be able to, like, five minutes later on for somebody else, right?
06:19So, that's what you're trying to do.
06:20Like, so, Peyton Pritchard or Sam Hauser or whoever could be fresher.
06:24So, I don't – I'm not going to argue with that.
06:26Like, those kind of things happen and, you know, and –
06:30But do they – I'm sorry, Scott, to interrupt, but does that happen?
06:33I mean, I – putting in, in a game seven, a lineup that's never played one minute together,
06:39it was – it just seems off.
06:43It almost seemed like Joe Mazzullo was just trying to show everyone how smart he was
06:47or maybe send a message to the other players who are underperforming.
06:51I just – I've never seen that before.
06:53Well, those are the margin guys.
06:56So, the day before – and then, remember, game six, those guys scored 30.
07:00It was 30-14 in the – sorry, 30-14 in that fourth quarter against Philly in game six.
07:07So, those are like, okay, if Jalen Brown and Derek White are going to take all the shots,
07:13and they took most of the shots, then the rest of the guys need to support those guys.
07:17So, how do you do that, right?
07:18You do that with defense, right?
07:20You do that with crashing the offensive glass.
07:22I totally understand the Luka Garza because Namiya Shkata has been getting foul trouble early on.
07:28So, you preserve Namiya Shkata later on so he can play more minutes and he can stay out of foul
07:33trouble.
07:33So, I get – I get all that.
07:35The time you want to put Luka Garza on Embiid is at the beginning of the game to start wearing
07:40him out.
07:40And there were times where I thought it was working.
07:42My argument to the whole thing was, why did we only do it for seven minutes?
07:47Like, when we played in the NBA Finals and we went against Luka Doncic, we ran every single action at
07:54him.
07:54The dude was exhausted.
07:56And he's a phenomenal offensive player.
07:58But the guy, like, was beat red throwing a tantrum for game three.
08:02Like, you really – the mind game of going at Luka Doncic worked.
08:06I think we could have done the same thing with Embiid.
08:08But once, like, seven minutes went around – like, went by, then we kind of just went back to, like,
08:13the same old thing, right?
08:15That Embiid was just standing there resting.
08:16And then, all of a sudden, he's, like, great on the offensive end.
08:19So, I didn't have a problem with any of the stuff that they did early on.
08:23It's like the consistency kind of bothered me.
08:25Obviously, we're not making threes.
08:26And you're like, oh, well, we just missed.
08:28But it's game seven.
08:29Like, don't you – basketball is always a sport, in my opinion.
08:32And I don't know, Ted, you might – you can explain it to me if it's different.
08:35Like, I get you could say, hey, those are open shots.
08:37But isn't basketball a sport where you've just got to figure it out?
08:41If it's not going down from the outside, you drive it.
08:43Multiple drives, multiple attacks.
08:45You know, like, you know, this first one-pack shot or isolation, 18-footer.
08:50Like, it didn't seem like that was working, yet we kept going back to that.
08:54Scott, you had a strong reaction to the Missoula postgame clip where he said Embiid coming back made all the
08:59difference.
08:59Is that kind of what you're talking about there?
09:01There were other things they could have done to get Embiid going earlier in the series?
09:05Well, I know that Joe does.
09:07If Joe's – Joe in the offseason and Joe internally is not saying that, you know.
09:13So, he could say that out loud.
09:15But that's, like, that's the job.
09:17You know what I mean?
09:18Like, that's the job.
09:19Like, if you're basically saying, like, well, Embiid made all the difference, which he did.
09:22He was good after – when he came back game four.
09:25He was good after that.
09:26But, like, the job is to counter Embiid.
09:28You know, like, every time we've ever seen Embiid in the playoffs, he hasn't performed.
09:33And this is the one time he's performed.
09:35So, the job is to make it so Embiid doesn't perform.
09:38So, listen, I know Joe, and he's not using that as, like, an excuse.
09:44It just sounds like an excuse to me.
09:45All right, so, Brian, something that a lot of people have a problem with today, and I do to –
09:51I guess to the extent that it happened, is, you know, Jason Tatum didn't play.
09:55I don't think there's a ton of people who have a problem with him not playing.
09:59I know that there's some people who question.
10:00Are you sure about that?
10:00Except for the giant gentleman standing across me over here.
10:04It's just a minor concern.
10:04Minor question.
10:05But the thing I had the biggest problem with is, after the game, the camera caught Jason Tatum and Joel
10:14Embiid not only shaking hands, which is perfectly fine, and not only, like, you know, exchanging pleasantries,
10:19but they were belly laughing together and patting each other on the back and having the time of their lives,
10:27what – as somebody who played in the generation of Kevin Garnett and Carmelo Anthony and Honey Nut Cheerios and
10:33real hatred between teams, how did that make you feel when you saw that?
10:39I mean, I'm not kidding.
10:40I don't – I don't care about that kind of stuff.
10:42At this point, I mean, just because our generation was different, these guys all work out together.
10:47They're friends.
10:47They play on USA Basketball together.
10:49Like, you know, it's like – it's like, at this point, it's like being an ex-teammate.
10:55I know they're not ex-teammates, but that's just – that's how it is.
10:59The thing I would say is, like, do you ever watch Jason Tatum and think he doesn't go at Embiid?
11:04I always think, like, he's cooking Embiid.
11:06So, like, I have no problem with, like, players being friends and they want to do all that afterwards.
11:12It doesn't mean it doesn't hurt those guys.
11:13They just think they compartmentalize really well.
11:16I think the biggest difference is, like, these guys do a better job of that than probably we did.
11:21You know, we had this, like, perceived idea that everybody was our enemy except for ourselves.
11:26But it's not like that.
11:28It's not like that across the league.
11:29So, if you're, like, you're going to single out Jason Tatum, then you're singling out, like, 65% of the
11:34NBA.
11:34It's like that.
11:35Yeah, but, like, you know, back when you played, like, what would KG have done in that situation?
11:40Yeah, I mean, that's, we don't, you can't use that as an example.
11:43No, no, no, I know you can't.
11:44I'm not saying one's right, one's wrong.
11:46But you were a witness to one of the all-time, I mean, there's stories of him taking his own
11:50teammates' phones and throwing them in the toilet.
11:52You know, so, I mean.
11:53Yeah, yeah.
11:54So, if it was our, it was our culture.
11:56It was our culture.
11:57But, and I would even say, like, look at, look how crazy it was when Larry Burns and Maxwell and,
12:04you know, like, you know, like, Cedric Maxwell tells the stories all the time about, like, him going into the
12:09stands and fist-fighting people.
12:10So, like, every generation changes, you know.
12:12So, I'm not, like, the key is this.
12:15This is when you have to look at, like, Bam Adebayo and Jason Tatum are also really close, right?
12:20Man, they go at each other.
12:21I mean, they, like, it's fierce competition when those guys are playing each other.
12:25Or, but they, you know, they, I don't know if they have dinner or they dap it up or they
12:28work out or whatever they do.
12:30Like, that can't, that can't be the concern.
12:32The concern, like, you can't be concerned about all of it.
12:34How about just being concerned about, you know, like, if Jason Tatum all of a sudden doesn't play hard and,
12:40like, Embiid's there and he shies away or Embiid gets a layup and he doesn't, like, like, Jason Tatum guards
12:45Embiid.
12:45Like, those guys go to war.
12:47So, I have no problem.
12:48I can analyze the game.
12:50I don't need the peripheral to say that.
12:52But I understand what people see and what they perceive and all that.
12:55But it's a different NBA right now.
12:57And I'm not saying it's bad.
12:58Like, I think these guys are tremendous athletes and they're incredibly skilled.
13:02It is a little bit different than it was back in the day.
13:05But, like, I have no problem with guys being friends off the court if they go to war, which I
13:10always say I've never seen Tatum, like, take his foot off the gas when he's playing against, like, his friend
13:14or anything like that.
13:15But, Scal, so going into that Game 7 on Saturday night, the Celtics were the favorites to come out of
13:21the East at that point.
13:23And then, obviously, what happened happened.
13:25So, but you look at what this, you know, first time they lose being up 3-1 in a series.
13:30Do you think major changes need to be made to the roster?
13:34Or what do you think about the roster as it's currently constructed going into next year?
13:40Do they need to make any changes based on what you saw this year?
13:44Well, I think the biggest thing they did, obviously, so just so everybody can understand, you know, Brad Stevens won
13:49Executive of the Year because it was the first time ever, I think.
13:53I'm not 100% sure about this, but he saved, like, he got underneath the tax.
13:58And just to explain that to everybody, I know it doesn't make sense why we ended up trading a bunch
14:02of people and doing all these things.
14:03Like, it looks kind of like this.
14:05And this isn't, like, a guarantee, but I kind of feel like this is what happened this year.
14:10So, by getting underneath the tax, if we can cleanse the tax one more time, right now, and I don't
14:17know what they're going to do with, like, with the star players.
14:20Are we going to, both guys are going to be there?
14:21They're not, or whatever.
14:22But pretty much getting under the tax this year, and if we can do it one more year, you cleanse
14:27the tax.
14:28It's like giving Brad Stevens, like, a blank check.
14:31Like, you know, when he had a blank check last time, we won a championship.
14:34He went out there, and the holiday move was the big financial move to get the team over the hump.
14:39So, by getting under the tax and cleansing the tax, it makes a massive difference.
14:44It doesn't mean that they're going to do it next year.
14:46It just means, like, they're in a great position next year to stay underneath the tax and, like, still be
14:52good.
14:52Like, you're still relevant.
14:53You're still battling, and you're still finding out who the players are.
14:57But I would say the year after that is, like, prime.
15:00It is prime to take a massive step.
15:03Now, if something massive becomes available, will they pull the trigger?
15:07I'm pretty sure they would if they felt like it was a massive move to put them over the hump.
15:11But, you know, like, what they did, it was the first step towards the rebuild of the second iteration of
15:19Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown.
15:20How that plays out, I have no idea.
15:23Do changes need to be made to win a championship?
15:26I probably would have said, like, if you asked me what the roster was at the beginning of the year,
15:29like I said, I thought we'd be, like, 8, 7, or 6, like, battling, right?
15:33But the Mias Kato was way better than I thought, and Joe did a great job with all those, like,
15:38offensive rebounds and the margins.
15:39So, obviously, I think they can continue to do that again.
15:42But as far as will they pull the trigger and go all in and the big payroll and the championship,
15:49the timing isn't right.
15:51But if the right player becomes available, I think they will.
15:53So, Scal, should Tatum have played yesterday or on Saturday?
15:56No way.
15:57Come on.
15:58Like, clearly the guy wants to come back.
16:00Like, he worked harder than anybody else with the Achilles.
16:03He came back.
16:04He played good.
16:05Like, you cannot risk Jason Tatum again.
16:09And it wasn't like he got hit in the thigh or anything like that.
16:13It was the back of the knee, which could be a calf.
16:15It could be a hamstring.
16:16So, I mean, those guys, all the medical guys in that situation made the right call.
16:20You know, you don't want Jason Tatum to get hurt again.
16:22And then we have to deal with this whole thing all over again.
16:24So, you know, that was – and that was – what's pretty amazing about it, out of all this comeback
16:29and the ramp up and everything,
16:31it was the first time he's been injured since he came back.
16:34Like, that's pretty remarkable.
16:36And I had a big conversation with Michael Hawley on air, and he was like, when Tatum comes back, we're
16:40going to win the championship.
16:41And I'm like, there's about 25 different ways that this thing could not work out, right?
16:46And then one of them is like, Jason Tatum has a sore calf.
16:49What do you do with a guy coming off an Achilles if he has a sore calf?
16:53So, like, there's like all kinds of variability to a guy returning.
16:56And he clearly was like a guy that wanted to play.
17:00So, if he wants to play all season and come back, then why would we think anything different of him
17:05for game seven?
17:05All right.
17:06So, Scal, we got to get to this.
17:08All right.
17:08We don't have much time left with you.
17:10But there is a clip of yours that went viral from after the game.
17:14Let's take a listen.
17:16This is something that a bunch of people have picked up on.
17:18Here is audio.
17:19This now – this was – this was Giles and Eddie House and you at the desk.
17:24And they were showing, like, a score up there.
17:26And, of course, you guys are broadcasting from inside the TD Garden.
17:28Let's play the clip.
17:29Celtics had one lead in this game.
17:31It was in the second quarter, and they hit a three to go up, 37-36.
17:34But it wasn't going out for otherwise.
17:37Taking control, taking the series.
17:39They were in this game seven, 1-0-9.
17:42You are ugly.
17:45This is any game recap presented by Zeddy Optical.
17:50Well, there is a –
17:51How are you going to bring me into that?
17:53I didn't say anything.
17:54That's Tom Giles with the reading.
17:56Eddie was with the comments.
17:57I was an innocent bystander on that.
18:00Okay.
18:00Are you – are you messing around?
18:02Or was that Eddie who said that?
18:04That wasn't me.
18:06Oh, Scal, are you sure?
18:09Play it again.
18:10Anybody thinks that's me?
18:11Because I came in –
18:12You think that's me?
18:12No, I came in.
18:13I told Stiz.
18:14I said, I think that's Eddie House.
18:15And everyone, including, like, all the people writing about it, think it's you.
18:19Just play –
18:20Oh, they want –
18:21It's just because they're rooting for themselves.
18:23Like, they want it to be me.
18:24You are ugly.
18:26That sounds like Eddie House.
18:27No, that's Eddie House.
18:28Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:28That's not Scal.
18:29You guys are crazy.
18:31First of all –
18:32Like, first of all, you guys know me.
18:34Come on.
18:38Maybe you don't know me.
18:40Listen, as I said, I came in.
18:42Stiz, you can back me up.
18:43I said, that's Eddie House.
18:44That's not Scal.
18:45But, Scal, you are getting, like, articles written about you.
18:48People are saying, what I do declare, this ne'er-do-well needs to be taken off the television
18:54for disrespecting these fine, upstanding 76ers fans.
18:59I don't know.
19:00I don't, like, you know, like, one thing about this business is, like, things –
19:04I don't need to make right what I did not do wrong.
19:07That's right.
19:08That's right.
19:08I don't even know if it's wrong.
19:09I guess – that's not me.
19:10I don't –
19:11That is not –
19:12Dude, if –
19:13I can move on with my life.
19:15I don't need to worry about any of this stuff.
19:17If it was you, I was going to say, dude, that was funny.
19:20Like, that was really funny.
19:21So, give Eddie House.
19:22I mean, listen, listen, we've had – we've beat down the 76ers for a long time.
19:27Like, they – can they have their one moment?
19:29Like, they said they wanted Boston.
19:30They got Boston and they delivered.
19:32Like, there is a point of this, like, tipping your hat to a team that I thought was not very
19:36good
19:36and they delivered.
19:37Like, that's – they get all the respect in the world.
19:39Let's see how they do against the Knicks.
19:41Who do you – how does that series go?
19:43Who do you like in that series?
19:44I got Knicks in five.
19:46They're going to find out.
19:47Carlton Towns and Mitchell Robinson are not.
19:49Kata and Garza are boots.
19:50Like, those two guys are really good.
19:53There's a reason why, like – and Lee's going to have a really hard time at Carlton Towns.
19:57All right.
19:57Ted didn't want me to ask, but I'm going to do it anyway, Scal.
20:00Giannis.
20:00Oh, here we go.
20:01What would you think of a Giannis trade?
20:05Let's – let's – let's talk later about that.
20:08Oh, it's still too soon.
20:09Too soon?
20:10Yeah.
20:10Yeah, a little soon on that.
20:12Yeah.
20:12Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:13That's not a no.
20:14That's not a no.
20:14The only thing I would say about that is, like, he is 31, and he's had a ton of injuries
20:19this year.
20:19And you're not, like, paying him $2 million.
20:22You're giving him $60 million.
20:24And availability is important.
20:26Obviously, is Giannis, like, incredible?
20:29Yes.
20:29But you do have to – like, I'm not in any position to say, oh, yeah, Giannis is going to
20:34play 75 games for us next year.
20:36Like, those are way, way, way different degrees as far as, like, being a former player and having a medical
20:42degree.
20:42Like, those guys know about that stuff.
20:44So, I don't know when it comes to Giannis and the games played.
20:48Obviously, great player.
20:49But we'll have – how about in, like, a month we'll have, like, a whole new conversation about Celtics offseason.
20:55Yeah.
20:57Because you guys have Rich and you have Ted.
21:00So, Ken, sorry.
21:02That's all.
21:03The last time I saw Scali, he put me in a headlock.
21:05So, that was pretty much the headlock.
21:08That's his version of a headlock.
21:09Yeah, that was a headlock.
21:10That was an audio headlock.
21:11Yes.
21:12Don't worry.
21:12Ken's got a little Giannis in his pants.
21:13He's keeping it.
21:14Let it go.
21:15He cannot let that whole thing go.
21:16All right.
21:17Well, Scout, great season.
21:19One month.
21:20Yes.
21:20In a month, we will get you back on and we can revisit that.
21:23But great stuff.
21:24And, listen, I'm glad you were not the hooligan who ended up saying that on television.
21:31You are ugly.
21:33That is not Scali.
21:34That's Eddie.
21:35A lot of people like to write articles about me doing things wrong.
21:38I'll tell you what.
21:39So, that one right there wasn't me.
21:42Hey, I'm trying to out my guy, but that wasn't me.
21:44Good.
21:44You're off the hook.
21:45All right, Scali.
21:45Hey, great talking to you again, man.
21:47Let's do it some more.
21:47Thanks, bud.
21:48All right.
21:49Sounds good.
21:49See you.
21:49See you, bud.
21:50All right.
21:50Yeah.
21:50Well, Stiz, you can back me up.
21:53I came in.
21:53I said, despite all the arguments, I said, that's not Scali's voice.
21:56And I said, you're crazy, Rich.
21:57That's definitely Scali.
21:58Yep.
21:58Yep.
21:59I was wrong.
22:00So, there you go.
22:00Letting his reputation off the hook.
22:02How about that?
22:02But let's not act like Scali doesn't get spicy, because he does.
22:05Oh, he does.
22:06There's not even a question that he definitely.
22:08And last night, he was fantastic.
22:11I think he's thought it through a little bit, and I think he kind of came down a little bit.
22:15But, I mean, the pure anger, that fresh anger was something else.
22:19Has he come back?
22:20He's definitely come back.
22:21That's why the best, you know, kind of stuff to get is right after the game, the emotions are just
22:27at their peak.
22:28And so, you say things right after a game that you wouldn't say the day after.
22:31Well, you know who's still fresh?
22:32Kendrick Perkins.
22:33As a matter of fact, he had a rant that was so foul, it just took Jackson about, like, 15
22:39minutes to edit out all of the beeps that were in his clip.
22:42Kendrick goes off on the Celtics.
22:44We will play that next.
22:45We will play that next.
22:45I'll see you next time.
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