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Jimmy Kimmel Live - Season 24 - Episode 108: Anthony Anderson, Jon Lovett
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00:00From Hollywood, it's Jimmy Kimmel Live!
00:04Tonight, Anthony Anderson and John Lovett with the Kletos!
00:11And now, Jimmy Kimmel!
00:15Jimmy Kimmel Live!
00:17Jimmy Kimmel Live!
00:33First time, I appreciate that.
00:38Thank you, thank you for watching and thank you for joining us.
00:44It's very nice.
00:51You know how sometimes you wake up in the morning
00:56and the First Lady puts out a statement demanding you be fired from your job?
01:02We've all been there, right?
01:04You've been there, right, Guillermo?
01:06Yeah, sure.
01:08What a day.
01:09As you know, they had to cancel the White House Correspondents' Dinner
01:12in Washington on Saturday night after a man with multiple guns and knives crashed the party
01:19and may have shot a Secret Service officer.
01:23Fortunately, the guy was wearing a bulletproof vest and is okay.
01:26They're not sure exactly what happened, but they got the guy.
01:29He was charged today.
01:30No one was hurt, thank goodness.
01:31A lot of people were shaken up on a night that is supposed to be lighthearted.
01:36The White House Correspondents' Dinner, if you don't know,
01:37it used to be an annual event before Trump showed up.
01:41But every year they'd have a comedian roast the room.
01:43The president, the vice president, members of the press, everybody got roast.
01:46I did it once, I hosted it, it was a lot of fun.
01:48But this year, they said, no comedian, we're bringing in a mentalist instead.
01:52So on Thursday, three days before the event, in order to keep that cherished tradition alive,
01:59I did my own version of the Correspondents' Dinner on my show.
02:03I put on a tuxedo, we pretended we had an audience of luminaries,
02:08we used old footage of the Trumps, of Pete Hegseth, J.D. Vance, Kid Rock, Vanilla Ice,
02:14all the members of his cabinet, and we made it seem like they were all together in a room.
02:19We had a little roast. Again, this was Thursday, and there was no big reaction to it
02:23until this morning when I greeted the day facing yet another Twitter vomit storm.
02:29And a call to fire me from our first lady, Melania Trump, saying I should be fired
02:36because of a joke I made, again, five nights ago.
02:39It was a pretend roast. I said, our first lady Melania's here, look at her so beautiful.
02:44Mrs. Trump, you'll have a glow like an expectant widow, which...
02:50obviously was a joke about their age difference and the look of joy we see on her face every time
02:57they're together.
02:58It was a very light roast joke about the fact that he's almost 80 and she's younger than I am.
03:03It was not, by any stretch of the definition, a call to assassination, and they know that.
03:09I've been very vocal for many years speaking out against gun violence in particular,
03:13but I understand that the first lady had a stressful experience over the weekend,
03:17and probably every weekend is pretty stressful in that house.
03:21And also, I agree that hateful and violent rhetoric is something we should reject.
03:26I do, and I think a great place to start, to dial that back, would be to have a conversation
03:31with your husband about it.
03:32Because, by the way, I also should point out, Donald Trump isn't allowed to say whatever he wants to say,
03:43as are you, as am I, as are all of us.
03:46Because under the First Amendment, we have, as Americans, a right to free speech.
03:50But with that said, I am sorry that you and the president and everyone in that room on Saturday went
03:58through that.
03:59I really am. Just because no one got killed doesn't mean it wasn't traumatic and scary.
04:02And we should come together and be best. We really should.
04:06But if you want us to believe that a joke I made three days before this dinner had any effect
04:11on anything that happened,
04:13well, then maybe someone should look into this psychic lady, too.
04:16This speech tonight will be classic Donald J. Trump.
04:21It'll be funny. It'll be entertaining. There will be some shots fired tonight in the room.
04:28You know what?
04:31You know who's going to be furious when she hears that?
04:35White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt, who will be furious.
04:39This is like deja vu for me today, with all the news channels talking about this.
04:42Brian Stelter of CNN noted incorrectly, I think, that no one from the White House was specifically calling for my
04:50head.
04:50This is this morning. I guess the first lady doesn't count.
04:53But whatever the case, the president cleared that up pretty quickly.
04:56The administration's calling out Kimball, trying to pressure ABC.
04:59But they're being careful, I think, not to explicitly demand that ABC punish him.
05:05Despite their rhetoric that sometimes becomes very incendiary from the White House,
05:08and yes, is also incendiary from the left, these stress tests have been passed,
05:13and we have not seen demands for silencing be followed through by government censorship.
05:20Well, Brent, just as we were speaking, the president actually put out a note demanding that Jimmy Kimball be fired
05:26by ABC.
05:28Well, in that case, forget everything I just said.
05:33All right. You know, but I have to say, this really is a shame, because there was a time not
05:42so long ago, back in 2010,
05:44when, believe it or not, we sent our man Yahya to a Samsung promotional event in New York,
05:49where we learned that Donald Trump was a very big fan of mine.
05:53Hi, Mr. Trump. How are you, sir? What are you doing here?
05:56Well, I'm here to support Samsung and their 3D plasma television.
06:00But I'm also here to support Jimmy, because I love Jimmy.
06:04You want to come here? Hi, how are you? Nice to meet you. Yahya, nice to meet you.
06:09You want to be on my show?
06:10Well, you know what? I happen to love Jimmy. Let's do it. Come on.
06:14Well, no, no, no. Sadly, his love for me went the way of the Samsung 3D plasma television.
06:22Anyway, what happened on Saturday at an event supporting the First Amendment, by the way.
06:28It was so crazy to watch. After the gunman was captured, there were so many well-known people in a
06:34room together,
06:35and there were cameras on everyone at all times. All the journalists, everybody grabbed their phones,
06:40immediately went into reporter mode. It was like a reverse Clark Kent. Like, he goes...
06:44But the dinner was filmed by more different iPhones from more different angles than the Torah portion of a bar
06:51mitzvah.
06:51This is video of the Secret Service moving Stephen Miller and his wife out of the room,
06:56followed by RFK Jr. getting whisked away while his wife, Cheryl Hines, is in the proverbial dust.
07:06That's right. He cut out of there like he saw a raccoon penis on the side of the road.
07:13But not everyone was in panic mode. While most of the attendees were taking cover,
07:18one guy who turns out to be Wolf Blitzer's agent. Watch him in the bottom left corner of your screen.
07:23And the journalists all in the House seated very quietly watching this.
07:29And remember who is in the room. Secretary Pete Hegseth is in that room.
07:33You've got Scott Besant in that room. You have Tulsi Gabbard in that room.
07:38You, of course, have J.D. Vance in that room, naturally the President of the United States.
07:42And as John mentioned, the White House correspondent's dinner will be, uh, presently broadcasting from.
07:50I'm going to have a little bit of salad.
07:53That, by the way, that would be a great commercial for Hidden Valley Ranch.
08:00Get that agent an agent. And while salad was being scarfed, this woman was, um, I don't know,
08:06stocking up for the hotel room? I don't know what's happening there.
08:09I think Kash Patel just found a new assistant.
08:12Me and Kash Patel. You know, Kash Patel is the head of the FBI.
08:15But somehow he wound up outside afterwards, I don't know, calling his Uber driver,
08:20trying to get his mom to come pick him up. He seemed kind of lost.
08:24A lot of people were just lost. They didn't know what to do.
08:27For a while there, it was unclear as to whether the dinner would be canceled or not.
08:31People were just waiting around.
08:32Then, finally, the President of the White House Correspondents Association
08:35took the stage to say, yes, the dinner is canceled and get to work.
08:40The President will be having a press briefing at the White House in 30 minutes.
08:49That is not a joke.
08:52The only thing that aren't jokes anymore are jokes, okay?
08:55It was very strange seeing all the news people who were at the event
08:58then reporting on the story in their tuxedos and ball gowns.
09:03It's like if a basketball player wore his jersey and shorts to dinner after the game.
09:07The President, one thing about Donald Trump,
09:09there's nothing he can't turn into a real estate opportunity.
09:12He immediately turned this into an argument in favor of his ballroom.
09:16He wrote,
09:24I hate to be the bearer of bad news.
09:26I'm afraid that top-secret ballroom is no longer top-secret.
09:32If it was, he'd be storing it in a shower.
09:34I love him.
09:38I have to admit something.
09:39I don't believe for one second that the reason he decided to build this ballroom is for security.
09:45But this was a pretty good argument for building...
09:48I might be pro-ballroom now, weirdly, after this.
09:51That way, if anything terrible ever happens, at least they can dance.
09:55Less than 24 hours after calling on Americans to resolve our differences
10:00and praising the warmth he shared with the press on Saturday night,
10:04Trump sat for an interview-slash-future-80-billion-dollar lawsuit
10:07with Nora O'Donnell in 60 Minutes,
10:09where he was asked about this manifesto his would-be attacker wrote.
10:13He also wrote this,
10:15I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor
10:19to coat my hands with his crimes.
10:21What's your reaction to that?
10:22Well, I was waiting for you to read that, because I knew you would,
10:25because you're... you're horrible people.
10:27Horrible people.
10:28Yeah, he did write that.
10:30Uh, I'm... I'm not a rapist.
10:32I didn't rape anybody.
10:34Uh...
10:34Oh, you think...
10:35I'm not a pedophile.
10:35Do you think he was referring to you?
10:36Excuse me. Excuse me.
10:38I mean...
10:40You know...
10:46General rule of thumb, you know an interview isn't going great
10:48when you have to say,
10:49I'm not a rapist and I'm not a pedophile.
10:53You should be ashamed of yourself reading that,
10:55because I'm not any of those things.
10:57Mr. President, these are the gunman's words.
10:58And I was never...
10:59Excuse me. Excuse me.
11:00Excuse me.
11:01You shouldn't be reading that on 60 Minutes.
11:03You're a disgrace.
11:04But go ahead, let's finish the interview.
11:06The other thing that he wrote in the...
11:07You're disgraceful.
11:09I guess the honeymoon with the press didn't last.
11:11It was fun for 11 hours, but today,
11:14uh, the President and First Lady welcomed King Charles
11:16and Queen Camilla, who arrived at the White House
11:18that were what is scheduled to be a four-day visit to the United States.
11:22Despite the obvious security concerns,
11:24the King decided to go ahead with the trip.
11:26He said, uh, he said he'd be damned if he lets anything stand in the way
11:30of him finally getting his hands on one of those Doritos Locos Tacos
11:34from Tacos.
11:36And we are...
11:38We're very hospitable.
11:39We wanted to make sure the King's visit was fun,
11:41so we went out onto Hollywood Boulevard
11:43to get opinions from folks on the street
11:45about some things Charles did while he was here,
11:48even though he hadn't arrived yet,
11:50and we made all the things up
11:52for our special King Charles edition of Live Witness News.
12:00So we've seen the clips, King Charles is in America right now.
12:03Yeah, yeah, I've seen some stuff.
12:05Oh, yeah, that, yeah, that he's here on,
12:07there's something about, like, on Instagram
12:08that his, like, wife is, is, uh, what's it called?
12:12She's, like, some celebrity or something,
12:14and he's coming over here to Hollywood.
12:15She's a Kardashian.
12:17Yeah, yeah.
12:17What did you think of the viral clip
12:19of King Charles cutting the line
12:21at Disneyland over the weekend?
12:22I think he needs to get to the back of the line.
12:24Everyone needs to wait in line at Disneyland.
12:26It doesn't matter who you are.
12:28It is not your right to cut the line at Disneyland,
12:31King Charles.
12:32There's only one king at Disneyland,
12:33and that is Mickey Mouse.
12:35Well, what did you think
12:36when King Charles gave Donald Trump
12:37the first-ever Buckingham Peace Prize?
12:41Boy, that was bulls**t.
12:43And when you saw the clip,
12:44was there something you said to the TV?
12:45Yeah, like, what the f**k?
12:47I mean, how the f**k is this possible?
12:49This corrupt-ass s**t,
12:50he's just an orange f**k clown.
12:52I have the right to say it,
12:54no matter who is a fin.
12:55I'm not trying to offend you,
12:56I'm giving you my opinion.
12:58What did you think of the pictures
12:59of King Charles on Venice Beach shirtless?
13:02Did you think the king would have
13:03so many back tattoos?
13:05When I think of King Charles with the tattoos,
13:09I never thought he would even have a tattoo.
13:11I don't even have a tattoo myself.
13:13Here's one with meaning,
13:14it's Calvin peeing on the 13 original colonies.
13:17Is that cool for a king to have?
13:20No, that definitely is not cool
13:21to have that tattoo,
13:23especially a king of England.
13:25Yeah.
13:26It's, you know, it's very immature.
13:29The king of England is a a*****.
13:32He sucks like a pimple waiting to be popped.
13:35Your opinions are so strong,
13:36I want to crown you the king of Hollywood Boulevard.
13:39My lord, well, hold on, man.
13:41We're going to do the king.
13:42Make sure the king doesn't do it long.
13:44What would you, as king of Hollywood,
13:47like to say to the king of England?
13:49Get the a***** out this country.
13:51Go home.
13:52Learn you some a***** manners.
13:54When you come into my house,
13:56you take your a***** shoes off at my shoes.
14:00I'm not these monkeys that you a***** around with.
14:02I'm the gorilla that will smash the lights
14:05and put common sense in your ass.
14:11Thank you, Your Highness.
14:13All right, we got a good show tonight
14:15from Pod Save America.
14:17John Lovett is here.
14:18We'll be right back with Anthony Anderson.
14:27Hi there, welcome back to the show tonight.
14:30You know him from the funny and informative podcast
14:33Love It or Leave It and Pod Save America.
14:35John Lovett is with us tonight.
14:37This week, we have good shows.
14:40We have good guests, including Goldie Hawn,
14:43Kiki Palmer, Desi Lydic from The Daily Show.
14:46The Deli Boys will join us.
14:48And the one, the only Meryl Streep will be here
14:50with music from Kevin Morby,
14:53Niall Rogers and Garan Garan.
14:55So please join us for all that.
14:57Our first guest tonight is an actor, producer.
14:59He has the voice of an angel.
15:01And now he's got a new cookbook.
15:03He put it together with Cedric the Entertainer.
15:05It's called AC Barbecue,
15:07The Husky and Handsome Guide to Grilling.
15:09It comes out May 5th.
15:10Please welcome Anthony Anderson.
15:32Well, it's very good to see you.
15:35It's good to see a friendly face.
15:37How are you?
15:38I'm well, my friend.
15:38How are you?
15:39I think you may be too fit to be selling
15:41a barbecue cookbook right now.
15:42No, not at all.
15:43No.
15:43It's about balance.
15:44It's about balance?
15:45It's about balance, yeah.
15:46All right.
15:46Since when?
15:50Have Neil Anthony ever been to the White House
15:53Correspondents' Dinner?
15:53I have.
15:54I have.
15:55How many years did you go?
15:57The year before Trump ran.
15:59Oh.
16:01And the year before that.
16:03So I can't remember what years, though.
16:04So maybe like 2014 and 15?
16:0724, 15, 2015, 16, something like that.
16:09OK, right in that area.
16:10And it was a fun evening, I assume?
16:11It was a great evening.
16:12Yeah.
16:13It was a great evening.
16:14Did you sit next to various political luminaries?
16:17I did.
16:18I did.
16:18Talked a lot of trash.
16:19Talked a lot of trash to Trump.
16:21Did you?
16:21Because at that time, Trump said,
16:24I can't believe they have a show called Black-ish.
16:28Oh, right.
16:29That's right.
16:29How would they feel if we had a show like that?
16:31I was like, yeah, it's called Friends.
16:34You know?
16:37I didn't see what the up world was about.
16:40So as he was walking by, I called him over to the table
16:43and introduced him to my partner, Kenya Barris,
16:45and was like, yo, Kenya, Trump, Trump, this is my partner, Kenya.
16:48And, you know, we quizzed him about, you know, what he said.
16:51And then I specifically asked him if he was going to be running for president.
16:57And at that time, he said, no, I'm not, Anthony.
17:00Oh, wow.
17:01And he did.
17:01Oh, wow.
17:02And he did.
17:03He did.
17:03He lied to you.
17:04I swear I didn't like him.
17:05As he always does.
17:07You know, always the mentalist was supposed to perform at the dinner.
17:11Yes.
17:11And he was supposed to be here tonight to read our minds.
17:13I think we were both excited about that.
17:15I was looking forward to having him sitting here, man,
17:17and seeing what he had to do.
17:18Have you ever been subject to a mentalist before?
17:20I have.
17:21I was in Cabo at a fundraising event,
17:25and there was a mentalist there, and he picked me out of the crowd.
17:28Mm-hmm.
17:29And, you know, hundreds of people.
17:31And we're outside, and he said, Anthony,
17:32pull out your money in your pocket.
17:34And he said, just count the money.
17:35Don't even count it aloud.
17:37And I had all $100 bills, and I counted it.
17:39Of course.
17:39It was like $3,200 in cash, right?
17:42Wow.
17:44And I had a 20 and like a 1, and it was like $3,221.
17:48And he knew exactly how much money I had, and he said it.
17:51And then he told me, he came over and he said, you know,
17:53can I grab a bill?
17:54And I was like, sure.
17:55So he grabbed a $100 bill, and he said, I want you to fold this up
18:00into squares, and I want you to sit on it.
18:02And so I did that, and I sat on it, and then he went to the crowd
18:05and just asked people.
18:06He asked people their birthdays.
18:07He asked people their marriage dates.
18:09He asked people what date it was.
18:11He asked for phone numbers.
18:12And then he calculated everything into a calculator.
18:15And he said, Anthony, I want you to read off the number
18:18on that bill that you had folded under your lap.
18:21And there were nine numbers on the screen, on the whiteboard
18:24that he put up there, and it was the exact numbers that I had
18:28on my $100 bill in order.
18:31Wow.
18:31And it was just amazing to see, you know, somebody do that.
18:35So that's why I was excited to see that guy.
18:36Yeah.
18:36And yet, here we are, disappointed.
18:38Yeah.
18:39That would have been fun.
18:41I got $3,200 in my pocket right now.
18:43You want to see what we can do with it?
18:45I heard it's $3,221, man.
18:47Hold on.
18:48Let's see.
18:49Does your family, like, are psychics and fortune tellers
18:52a part of your, like, upbringing?
18:54I am.
18:55My best friend, Jerry Singleton, but I affectionately
18:58called him Skinny Boy.
18:59We went to high school together, so we've been best friends
19:01since 1987.
19:03Uh-huh.
19:04I'm his kid's godfather.
19:06He's my kid's godfather.
19:07And his mom, who just recently passed, Mildred Singleton,
19:12was a numerologist.
19:14Oh, she was?
19:15Yeah.
19:15She was a numerologist, and she could tell you everything,
19:18how your year was going to be based on that number
19:22of the year, based on when you were born
19:24and what year you were born.
19:25Was it accurate?
19:26It was very accurate.
19:27It was very accurate.
19:27She knew the years that I was going to have, I was going
19:30to make lots of money.
19:31She knew the years that I was going to travel.
19:32She knew the year that I was getting divorced.
19:34She knew the year, or she knew when I was going to meet
19:38somebody new in my life.
19:39And uncanny enough, when I was younger, when we were just
19:42in high school, she would always tell me, she'd say, Anthony,
19:46you're going to have a calling.
19:46And then I was, what calling is that?
19:48And it went beyond acting.
19:51And she said, you know what?
19:53She said, you're going to go on to have your own talk show one
19:57day, and you're going to minister to the people,
19:59and you're going to be a minister.
20:00And lo and behold, I don't have my own talk show,
20:04but I host your talk show every summer.
20:07We share a talk show.
20:07We share a talk show.
20:08And I'm an ordained minister now.
20:11Are you?
20:11Yeah.
20:13What?
20:15So the things that, you know, she saw happening for me
20:19at 17 and 18 years old actually came to life.
20:23Hold on.
20:24You're an ordained minister.
20:25Are you an ordained minister so that you can marry your friends,
20:28or are you really preaching in a...
20:30Both.
20:30You are.
20:31Yes.
20:32About Jesus?
20:37I have a calling.
20:39I mean, what better person than me, a heathen,
20:42to talk to the people?
20:45Yes, sir.
20:46Yeah, and I've married two couples before, man.
20:48And everybody wants me to give the prayers
20:52and dinners and everything.
20:54Oh, really?
20:55Wow.
20:55You've got to work now at your dinners.
20:57It's ridiculous.
20:58I do.
20:58I do.
20:58OK, speaking of heathenism, you...
21:02And now that I know you're a minister, wow, this is really...
21:05I'm not sure if I should even bring it up.
21:06Let's go.
21:07But...
21:08I'm a man of the world, Jimmy.
21:09A promise you made on television.
21:11Go ahead.
21:11What kind of Dodger fan Anthony Anderson are we going to have
21:14if they went back-to-back?
21:17I'll streak at Dodger Stadium.
21:19OK.
21:20That's what I'm going to do.
21:21That's what they're going to see.
21:22OK.
21:22I'm going to streak at Dodger Stadium.
21:24There you go.
21:25Wearing nothing but my rings.
21:27All right.
21:30Now, after you did that interview, the Dodgers won...
21:33Yes.
21:33...the World Series, which means now...
21:35Yes.
21:36...you have...
21:37You said you were going to streak.
21:39I did.
21:39Are you going to streak?
21:40I am.
21:41When?
21:42And I...
21:43You know what?
21:44The Dodgers are holding my new World Series championship ring hostage
21:50until I streak in the stadium.
21:52You are.
21:53This is last year's ring that I gave them.
21:55Yeah.
21:56I gave them this year's ring, and I was waiting for mine,
21:58and I'm like, no, no, no, no.
21:59Anthony, you made a promise.
22:00Will they make, like, a night, like an Anthony Anderson
22:03naked bobblehead night or something like that?
22:05Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
22:07And I...
22:08Which head will be bobbling?
22:11Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
22:12I guess, yeah, you can do multiple nights.
22:15You're right.
22:16Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
22:16I must be there when this happens.
22:19I...
22:19I will let you know.
22:20Please do.
22:21And I'm wondering, you know, you got to run the bases.
22:23It can't just be...
22:24That's...
22:24You got to run...
22:25I...
22:25I'm going to run...
22:27I'm going to run...
22:28I'm going to run as if I hit a Grand Slam home run.
22:30Well, no.
22:31Oh, slow.
22:32Yeah, you're...
22:32Oh, all right.
22:33Yeah, I like that.
22:35A trap.
22:36I...
22:36I'm going to run the bases in nothing but a pair of cleats and ankle socks.
22:41Oh.
22:41I...
22:42And I'm true that...
22:43And they are holding my...
22:45My World Series ring hostage until I do it.
22:48Will you have the ring on?
22:49Will you have the ring on?
22:49I will have a couple of them on.
22:51Is it legal to run naked at Dodger Stadium?
22:55It's not illegal.
22:56Oh, okay.
22:56I think it might be illegal.
22:57And I'm not going to be completely naked.
22:58I'll have on ankle socks and cleats.
23:02And I know when I'm going to do it.
23:03Oh, you do?
23:04This is what I'm going to do.
23:05I'm going to air it on your show.
23:07Great.
23:08Yeah.
23:09And...
23:10Great.
23:13No one will see it until after I air it on your show.
23:17And this is when I'm going to do it.
23:18The week of August 10th when I am hosting this show.
23:21Oh, all right.
23:22Great.
23:23That is how I promise everybody that's out there watching right now,
23:27I promise you, the first night I host this show on August 10th,
23:33you will see me run butt naked around Dodgers tonight.
23:36I love it.
23:36And I am going to add something to that.
23:38Yes.
23:39If the Dodgers foolishly elect not to make naked Anthony Anderson bobbleheads,
23:45we will have them for everyone in the audience.
23:47All right.
23:48All right.
23:49Yes.
23:49Keep it.
23:50Keep it.
23:51This is his cookbook.
24:00I just need to let him go!
24:03I just need to let him go!
24:07Yes.
24:21I need to let him go!
24:23Omega.
24:35Ready for the World, let me love you down.
24:39Hold on, hold on.
24:40What do you know about Ready for the World?
24:42I know everything.
24:42I know O'Sheelia.
24:43R-F-T-W, you know O'Sheelia?
24:45I know they're from Michigan, and for whatever reason,
24:49for reasons unknown, one of them has an English accent
24:52in the song O'Sheelia.
24:54It's good for the goose.
24:55It's always good for the gander.
24:58Oh, Shana.
24:58Yes!
24:59Yes!
25:00And no one explains why that accent is there.
25:03Oh, my God.
25:04I can't believe you know it.
25:05How did that happen with Wyclef?
25:06What was going on there?
25:07You know what?
25:08I was down in Atlanta hosting a fundraiser
25:11for HBCU Awareness Week.
25:15Myself, Roxy Diaz, and Magic Johnson.
25:18And Wyclef, John, was our surprise musical guest.
25:22And so at the end of his set, he was done,
25:24and I had to end the show.
25:25And I was like, I can play the keys a little bit.
25:27So I just got up there.
25:28And we did the whole song verse for verse and chorus.
25:32Was he surprised and impressed by your voice?
25:34He was.
25:35To the tune that he said, Ant, I'm playing the Hollywood Bowl
25:39in another month or so.
25:40I want you to come on stage with me and my band
25:43and play with us.
25:44Oh, that's awesome.
25:46So we'll see.
25:47We'll see.
25:48But I plan on doing it.
25:49I plan on joining the stage at Hollywood Bowl.
25:52Will you do that naked as well?
25:57You've come up with a good plan for Anthony's Dodgers appearance.
26:00I might host this show naked.
26:02How long have you been?
26:04That would be something.
26:07All right.
26:08A naked show.
26:08I like that idea.
26:10All right.
26:10How long have you been playing piano?
26:12I really can't play.
26:13You know, I fake it, man.
26:14Do you?
26:15I went to the high school for the performing arts
26:17and all my buddies were in band.
26:18So when they were practicing at lunch, man,
26:21I would just sit there.
26:21And so I don't know any notes.
26:23I just mimic.
26:24I just mimic what I saw.
26:25So the songs that I play, I just
26:27remember where their hands were.
26:29So I don't know what notes are there.
26:29Well, that's called playing, I think, isn't it?
26:32I don't know what it is.
26:33I know a couple of songs.
26:34I know a few songs.
26:36I don't know them straight through because it was only on lunch.
26:38So I never got to learn the whole song.
26:40So I can fumble through some things.
26:44You weren't forced to take lessons by your folks?
26:46I wanted to play the piano so bad that my mother
26:49put me in piano classes.
26:51But she put me, she heard about this piano class,
26:54and so she put me in it.
26:54But it was an advanced piano class.
26:57So they were playing by ear, and they were doing all this stuff.
27:00Man, we didn't even have a piano at the house.
27:02Oh.
27:02So I didn't know how I was going to do this.
27:05And they gave me a cardboard cutout of the 88 keys for me
27:11to place my hands on chords.
27:14I was like, OK, that's cool.
27:15But I can't hear , you know?
27:17So that didn't serve a purpose.
27:20So I got my mother's credit card one day,
27:25and I ordered a baby grand piano from Colton.
27:30It was a piano store here called Colton Piano Store.
27:32And I called Colton up, and I thought it was going to be a surprise.
27:36And my mom wasn't going to be home when they delivered the piano.
27:39She was just going to walk in.
27:39And I was going to be, ha, surprise.
27:41Well, she happened to be home when they delivered the piano,
27:44and it ruined my surprise.
27:47And my mother cussed the piano guy out and was like,
27:50what the hell are you doing?
27:51Am I, I didn't know no goddamn piano.
27:53I was like, uh, mama, I did.
27:55And so she returned the piano, had to return it,
27:58and she got her money back.
28:00And then she tied me butt naked to the avocado tree
28:07and whipped me with the fan belt off an 84 Ford Carrier truck.
28:10Oh, my God.
28:12Yeah.
28:13And when you were tied to the avocado tree,
28:15is that when you got interested in cooking?
28:19Well, that's when I got interested
28:22and realized I didn't have a problem being naked in public.
28:27Well, you and Cedric, you guys love barbecue.
28:30You love to barbecue.
28:31You love to eat barbecue.
28:32We can see you pretending to eat a corn in the cob here.
28:36We can see Cedric pretending to eat a rib here.
28:40Oh, we ate that.
28:40Oh, you did eat it.
28:41Oh, no, no, we ate that.
28:42We had to hold it still for the picture.
28:44But no, we ate that stuff.
28:45What inspired you to do this?
28:48Why did you write this?
28:49Well, you know, Cedric and I started a barbecue lifestyle
28:52company a few years ago.
28:54We created it.
28:54You're living the barbecue lifestyle.
28:56Yeah, that I am.
28:57We created a reality show called The Kings of Barbecue.
29:00We developed seasonings and sauces that are in Walmart and Kroger and Lowe's and Rouse and H-E-B's.
29:07Wow, all those places.
29:08Yeah, and then we opened up a restaurant in the Westfield Century City Mall called AC Barbecue.
29:13And the next thing was to, you know, make this cookbook.
29:17And it chronicles the story of barbecue and community and what it's really about.
29:22Yeah, so everybody's invited to the cookout if you have the book.
29:25Everybody's invited, yeah.
29:25Now, this is something that I do want to discuss with you because this feels like an attack on Italian
29:30-Americans.
29:32Barbecue.
29:33You've never had barbecue spaghetti?
29:35No.
29:36No.
29:37No.
29:37You should try it.
29:38All right.
29:39My meal will make it for me.
29:40When you go home, do that recipe and call me and let me know what you think about it.
29:43OK.
29:43All right.
29:44And this is something that is either, I don't know, are you trying to kill people because
29:49deep fried uncrustable seems like the way to do it.
29:54You know, these are recipes and family recipes from around the country and they tell the story.
30:00This is great.
30:01Yeah, no, it's great, man.
30:02Is it?
30:02Yeah, it is.
30:03Is it good?
30:03We did good.
30:03You put ice cream on it or how does it go?
30:05You can put whatever you want on there.
30:07OK.
30:08All right.
30:08Yeah, well, there's some-
30:09You know, some of those pictures are pornographic in there.
30:11They are pornographic.
30:12Yeah.
30:12They are.
30:13It's making me hungry just looking at them like this.
30:15I love fried catfish.
30:16That's real good.
30:17Yeah, there it is.
30:17You make that?
30:18Yeah.
30:19Yeah.
30:19It's not barbecue, boy.
30:20That's good.
30:20You know, my dad was the youngest of 16.
30:23He grew up on a farm in Little Rock, Arkansas.
30:25Wow.
30:25So my dad is the one that taught me about barbecue.
30:29He was a welder by trade, so he would make his own barbecue.
30:31Oh, that's awesome.
30:32Really?
30:32With 55-gallon drums, yeah.
30:34Do you have any of those barbecues that he made?
30:37No, I don't have any of the drums, unfortunately.
30:39Oh, man.
30:39I don't.
30:40But that was our history together.
30:42Well, that's beautiful.
30:43Well, you know what?
30:44If you got a hankering for any barbecue spaghetti or maybe a deep-fried
30:49uncrustable or all the regular stuff, too, it's right there.
30:52A.C. Barbecue, the Husky and Handsome Guide to Grilling.
30:55It comes out May 5th.
30:56The great Anthony Anderson, everybody.
30:58We'll be back with John Love.
31:05This week on Jimmy Kimmel Live, Kiki Palmer, Goldie Haid, and Meryl Streep, plus music from
31:13Kevin Morby and Duran Duran featuring Nile Rodgers.
31:24Hi there, welcome back.
31:26Our next guest went from the White House under Obama to podcaster, which is the opposite of
31:32how they do it now.
31:33He has two popular podcasts, Pod Save America and Love It or Leave It.
31:37Please welcome John Love It.
31:51How are you?
31:53I'm doing great.
31:54It's very good to see you.
31:55I'm doing great, yes.
31:55I know you were in Washington over the weekend.
31:58That's right.
31:58But you did not go to the correspondence dinner.
32:01No.
32:02As a rule, if J.D. Vance and I are at a party at the same time, either he made
32:08a mistake
32:09or I made a mistake.
32:11No, I got out of town.
32:12I was on a plane when it all happened.
32:15Oh.
32:15The Wi-Fi wasn't working.
32:17Oh.
32:17By the time I landed, it was already about building a ballroom.
32:22That's right.
32:23Now, am I nuts in thinking that he might now have a point about this ballroom?
32:29Yeah.
32:29I am.
32:30You're nuts.
32:30Why?
32:31Because the problem with the ballroom is not the idea or concept of a philosophical ballroom.
32:38Mm-hmm.
32:39It's that he knocked down the East Room without asking anybody permission like Conny.
32:43Mm-hmm.
32:44Yeah, hold on.
32:45I forgot about that.
32:47The ballroom doesn't become more legal because someone did something evil and stupid at a different
32:54ballroom.
32:55Like, it's not how ballrooms work.
32:57It isn't?
32:57No.
32:58No, no.
32:58Wait a minute.
33:00How do you know so much about ballrooms?
33:03What are you, spending your life at a Chuck E. Cheese?
33:05What do you know about these ballrooms?
33:07I had some fun in those places.
33:08Yeah.
33:09You, um, did you go to, like, parties and stuff?
33:12Yeah, three parties.
33:13So, uh, I host a show called Love It or Leave It.
33:15Mm-hmm.
33:15We did a big live show.
33:17And then Crooked Media, the company that John and Tommy and I, uh, founded, uh, that does
33:21Pod Save America.
33:22We had a big party.
33:23But then the goal was for me to get John and Tommy, my, my straight, my straight boys.
33:27Right.
33:27To the Grindr party.
33:28Ah!
33:29Yeah.
33:30Because Grindr, you know, the app, had a party, and they've never had a party before.
33:35And so I'm trying to get my boys to the Grindr party, all right?
33:38And then there's a traffic jam at the Belgian embassy, and we're like, what's going on?
33:42And, and, oh, everybody's trying to talk to Gavin Newsom.
33:45And some reporter's like, are you trying to talk to Gavin Newsom?
33:47I'm like, I don't, I'm trying to get my boys to the Grindr party.
33:51And then we get to the Grindr party.
33:53Oh.
33:54Lindsey Graham is there.
33:55No.
33:55No, he's not.
33:59No.
34:00Oh.
34:01No.
34:01But we're at this.
34:03Wouldn't that be nice for him, though?
34:05Boy, he's there in his mind.
34:08You don't have to be a great mentalist.
34:12To figure that out.
34:14But, so, we're at the Grindr party, all right?
34:17Uh-huh.
34:18And they ran out of alcohol.
34:19No!
34:23Gay people have been fighting for 50 years, all right?
34:27Marsha P. Johnson threw a brick at the Stonewall riot.
34:31And now the gays are running out of alcohol.
34:35And it's like, you're at this thing, you're like, who do I, who do I gotta get a, a martini?
34:41There was no one.
34:42There was no one.
34:44But, so, wait, so, stop it.
34:47So, we're at, wait, we're at the Grindr party.
34:51And, because my fellow Pond Save America co-hosts are confident in their masculinity.
34:56Right.
34:57They, they, they're enjoying themselves at the Grindr party.
34:59But then who do we see?
35:00We see the head of the Democratic National Committee, a guy named Ken Martin.
35:04Okay.
35:04And we think, oh, that's, and I've been drinking.
35:06I was like, oh, I'll say hi to the head of the DNC.
35:08I forgot that we've been critical of the DNC.
35:11Oh.
35:12And so, all of a sudden, I'm in this super intense conversation with the head of the
35:16Democratic National Committee.
35:18Because they, they had written on a report about what went wrong in 2024, but didn't release
35:22it, because it went perfectly.
35:25And, and we're like, we think the report should be released.
35:27So, I'm in this, like, kind of, a little bit of an intense conversation.
35:30And I'm like, I've never seen this kind of passion from this guy before.
35:33I've had a few drinks.
35:34And I'm like, maybe the atmosphere is like, there's something going on here?
35:36No.
35:38There wasn't.
35:40But now he's going to be on Pond Save America tomorrow.
35:41Oh, he is.
35:42Yeah.
35:43Oh, all right.
35:44But the thing about it is this dinner, I thought it was like a silly thing for a really
35:48long time.
35:49Like, why is everybody being so cushy?
35:50We're supposed to be, the press is supposed to hold people in power accountable.
35:53It blurs the lines, yes.
35:54But now that we've lived under Trump for so long, it's like, you know what?
35:58Maybe it's okay that people come together in one room once in a while and talk to each
36:02other and have a couple drinks and then go back to fighting again the next day.
36:05Interesting.
36:06So you think, which is different, I think, from what a lot of people think, you think
36:09it is actually more appropriate now to be in a room for an event that supports the
36:15First Amendment with somebody who doesn't believe in the First Amendment.
36:19No, I wouldn't be caught dead at the dinner.
36:21Oh, okay.
36:22The parties, you mean.
36:23Yeah, but it's nice to be around people in real life as opposed to just fighting on
36:28the internet.
36:28Yeah.
36:29Because ultimately, it is supposed to be a chance to poke fun at people in power.
36:33That's what you were doing.
36:34That's what you were doing.
36:36You were using your First Amendment right to poke fun at people in power.
36:39And that's what that whole weekend used to be about before they changed comedian to
36:44mentalist.
36:46Do you have any mental powers that you can share with us?
36:50No, but I'm sending a message to the mentalist right now.
36:54What is the message?
36:56You canceled?
36:57You .
37:04I've been sending him that message all day.
37:07I was telepathic.
37:08Maybe you tuned into my mentalist and then it went to the other mentalist.
37:12Maybe I'm mentalizing.
37:13Interesting.
37:13Look, everybody enjoys an inoffensive joke in good taste, right?
37:18Like, Trump was supposed to perform after a mentalist.
37:21That's interesting because he's a bit of a magician.
37:23He made America's reputation disappear.
37:25Mm-hmm.
37:26But see, that's...
37:30That's fine.
37:31That's easy.
37:32Everyone...
37:33No one's gonna have a problem with that.
37:34But when things are tough, you need to be able to make jokes about dark topics.
37:38Like how every...
37:40You made fun of RFK Jr. for seeming to race ahead of his wife, Cheryl Hines, as he left
37:45her behind.
37:45But I think that's really unfair.
37:47Because if the shooter were dead, you only have 30 minutes or so to get that meat in
37:51the freezer.
37:57Now, that is in poor taste.
38:00But that's what democracy is all about, Jimmy.
38:02That's right.
38:03You couldn't be more correct on that.
38:05Now, you know things.
38:06Why do you think they make a big deal out of something like a joke, like a dumb joke,
38:12and try to make it into this...
38:15Why do you...
38:15In your opinion, why do they do that?
38:17What's their purpose?
38:19I...
38:20It's hard to get into their minds.
38:21Mm-hmm.
38:21I'm no mentalist.
38:22But the...
38:24I think it is wrong.
38:26Political violence is incredibly dangerous.
38:28It can tear a society apart.
38:30There's nothing...
38:30Nothing to be gained from it.
38:31I find it gross when people try to defend it, whatever the side...
38:35And I think it gets gross when people try to exploit it.
38:37Because what political violence does, is it doesn't just try to silence one leader,
38:41one powerful person.
38:42It tries to silence all of us.
38:44It tries to decide something for all of us.
38:46And that can't work.
38:47We can't allow that to work.
38:48So we should be able to denounce it collectively.
38:51And that...
38:51And so they want to go after you.
38:53They want to go after everybody.
38:54Because on some level, they know that one person who has encouraged so much political violence,
38:58and has caused so much division, and has raised the temperature so high,
39:02is the president of the United States.
39:04And...
39:06There's something comforting to go after you.
39:09There's something comforting about going after their left, their typical opponents.
39:13Right?
39:13As opposed to just facing the fact that, yeah, it's bad when anybody,
39:17a random person on the internet, defends political violence.
39:21But it's especially dangerous when it's the most powerful person in the world.
39:24By the same token, I think it is also wrong when people compare Trump to Hitler,
39:30or say that MAGA is a bunch of Nazis.
39:33Like, I saw that insurrection.
39:36Okay?
39:37Nazis were Hugo Boss.
39:43So...
39:45You are saying that they're not as well-dressed, yeah.
39:48Yeah.
39:49Yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:51Do you think it is the president's job to set the tone for the country?
39:57Absolutely.
39:58I think...
39:58I think...
39:59Well, whether it's his job or not, the president does set the tone for the country.
40:04And the one thing I would just say is, we've already been through an episode
40:08of Donald Trump trying to get Jimmy Kimmel, uh, canceled.
40:12And gas is $6 a gallon.
40:15Open the Strait of Hormuz.
40:16All right?
40:18And by the way...
40:21Uh, you know, Jimmy, you're a lot like the Ayatollahs.
40:26The...
40:26Well...
40:27First of all, thank you.
40:29Yep.
40:30Um, in what ways, John?
40:33Thanks for asking.
40:35Strike you down.
40:35There's a dozen younger, hotter, more extreme versions of Jimmy Kimmel just waking...
40:41waiting to take power.
40:42Bearded as well.
40:43Bearded, absolutely.
40:44Maybe gay.
40:45Maybe gay.
40:46We'll find out at the Grindr party next year.
40:48That's right.
40:48Absolutely.
40:50I'll come...
40:51I'll be one of your boys.
40:52We'll get going there, yeah.
40:53That's great.
40:53It's a date.
40:54Well, good luck with Ken Martin tomorrow.
40:56Yeah, that's great.
40:58I hope he's not too upset.
41:00Uh, let's hope...
41:00He's not gonna cancel because of this, right?
41:02Tonight, we'd better not.
41:02He was such a great...
41:03We had such a great conversation.
41:04You know what?
41:04If he does, we'll bring the wrath of Melania down on him.
41:08I think it's...
41:09I just wanna say, in a divided time, I think it's beautiful that you could find a way for
41:14Trump and his wife to reconnect.
41:17You know what?
41:18That's a very...
41:19Very good point.
41:20John Lovett, everybody.
41:21He's in the podcast.
41:22We'll remember to leave it on Saturdays and Pod Save America on Tuesday, Thursday,
41:28and Sunday.
41:29Thank you, John.
41:37Thanks to Anthony Anderson and John Lovett.
41:40Apologies to Matt Damon.
41:41We ran out of time for him.
41:42Join us tomorrow night with Kiki Palmer, Kareem Rama, and music from Kevin Morby.
41:46Nightline is next.
41:47Thanks for watching.
41:48Good night.
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