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Real Time with Bill Maher - Season 24 - Episode 12: Gov. Wes Moore, Chris Cuomo, Sarah Isgur
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00:04Start the clock.
00:30Start the clock.
01:00Thank you so much.
01:02I know you're so glad you're in a good mood.
01:06Thank you very much.
01:08I know why you're happy today.
01:11Because Trump said today we will not be using nuclear weapons in Iran.
01:17I didn't know that was on the table, but okay.
01:20Great.
01:23Oh, this Iran, it's gotten a little Groundhog Day, isn't it?
01:27It's always kind of the same story every week.
01:30We're seizing their boats.
01:31They're seizing our boats.
01:32It's less like a war and more like a Florida divorce.
01:42It's kind of become a war of, you block me?
01:46No, I block you.
01:49Scredo-Hermoz, you think you can fuck it up?
01:51Oh, we can fuck it up.
01:53That's our plan now, is to win slowly by destroying their economy.
01:59Hopefully their economy.
02:07Yeah, it was Earth Day this week, but we found out we still use a lot of oil.
02:13Nobody can afford gas.
02:14This week, Tiger Woods crashed his bicycle.
02:17Wow.
02:18That is a...
02:25Eric Swalwell has been turning off the engine of the car when he gets blown.
02:30Now, he just...
02:36Really, he's still some residual affection for Eric Swalwell?
02:39Wow.
02:40Okay.
02:40But, you know, it's not just gas, you know.
02:42It turns out everything is made of petroleum products.
02:46Did you see this week?
02:47Condoms?
02:48Who knew condoms?
02:49Condoms, yes.
02:50They're getting trapped in the Strait of Hormuz.
02:55So, condoms are now very scarce and very expensive.
02:58More bad news for Mike Vrabel.
03:06No, the...
03:08The condom situation is so serious that we are changing the name from Operation Epic Fury to the Trojan War.
03:18And yet...
03:21And yet, lately, Trump on the war has been so chill.
03:25Have you noticed that?
03:26I know, it's not like him to veer erratically.
03:29But, you know, a couple of weeks ago, it was, if you don't do what he would say today, I'm
03:33going to destroy your civilization, bomb the shit out of you, you think your pencils and dolls are expensive.
03:40Whoa, you're...
03:41And now it's like, is it really a war?
03:45It's more of a situation, really, I think.
03:47And the problem is, he keeps saying we won, and we didn't.
03:51We didn't.
03:53We didn't.
03:53We didn't.
03:53Hormuz is not open.
03:54The people did not do an uprising.
03:56The regime is still in place.
03:58We did not win.
03:59Sorry.
04:00And in social media, he keeps rubbing their noses in the victory we don't have.
04:06Every day...
04:11Every day, he treats out stuff that's inflammatory and contradictory, all these bullshit claims.
04:16I got to say, you can say what you want about his negotiating tactics.
04:20One tactic you can't get him on is the silent treatment.
04:31It turns out, the one thing we are really good at is killing their leaders who are too
04:37stupid to go underground when we're trying to kill them.
04:42That's what we're...
04:43The current Ayatollah, who's the son of the old Ayatollah, turns out he's very gravely wounded,
04:48he was badly burned, can hardly speak.
04:50When he sentences people to death now, he has to do it with a look.
04:55It's very sad.
04:58Oh, and in the middle of this war, here's big news, Pete Hegseth fired a white guy.
05:10Yeah, the Secretary of the Navy.
05:12And wow, this guy must have done some bad shit.
05:15You know, that doesn't happen a lot with Pete Hegseth.
05:18But it was either a war crime or, knowing that administration,
05:21there was a picture of him with a huge fake balloon tit.
05:24It's one of the two.
05:28Um...
05:28Oh, there's a...
05:31There's a lot of talk this week about drinking in the Trump administration,
05:36which is ironic, because Trump is a complete teetotaler.
05:38But, you know, Pete Hegseth, there were some rumors about him.
05:44Head of the FBI, Kash Patel.
05:46He is suing the Atlantic.
05:48He denies it, but they wrote an article saying he drinks too much.
05:51Uh, the Labor Secretary this week resigned among allegations that she drinks too much on the job.
05:57That she had an affair with her security guy.
06:02Uh...
06:03And was, you know, going on trips.
06:05And I think it's true that she might be a bit of a party girl.
06:09Because...
06:11Well, because...
06:13She...
06:14She once said, uh, as Labor Secretary, my first priority is to improve twerking conditions.
06:21That's an indication that I think.
06:24And...
06:28And here's exciting news.
06:30Here's the Michael Jackson movie opens today.
06:40Showings are 7, 9, and 11.
06:43Just like the victims.
06:44All right.
06:45We've got a great show.
06:46We have Sarah Isger and Chris Cuomo are here.
06:48But first up, he is a best-selling author and a U.S. Army veteran.
06:53And he currently serves as the 63rd Governor of Maryland, Governor Wes Moore.
07:01Governor, how are you?
07:03Good to see you again.
07:04Good to see you again.
07:05Good to see you again.
07:05Good to see you again.
07:05Good to see you again.
07:06Good to see you again.
07:06Hey guys.
07:07All right.
07:09Look at you're loved here in California.
07:14It's nice out here.
07:15You're in California.
07:16You're on real time.
07:17You must be running for president.
07:21No?
07:22I am not.
07:24No?
07:26No.
07:26It's so funny because, you know, the GOP is, like, historically unpopular now.
07:33And yet, every week I have people on this show.
07:35Josh Shapiro, Alyssa Slotkin, you know, you.
07:39Kevin Newsom is here next week.
07:41Andy Beshear.
07:41No one's running.
07:43No one's running.
07:44It's going to be a great opportunity.
07:45Maybe I should do it because no one wants to do it.
07:48I don't understand.
07:48We like that.
07:50Well, no.
07:51Listen.
07:52I think, I've always said, you know, everybody can do what they want.
07:58But my thing is this, is that my state is under assault right now.
08:02You know, I've had over 31,000 people fired in the past year by Donald Trump and J.D. Vance.
08:08Federal workers.
08:09That's because a lot of federal workers live in Maryland.
08:12Because a lot of them live in Maryland.
08:13The federal government is there.
08:14Yeah.
08:14And people who have the audacity of doing things like making sure our food is safe.
08:18Okay.
08:18Or making sure that our planes are not colliding.
08:20Or giving veterans like myself, making sure they can get the medication that they need.
08:24And those are the people who Donald Trump and J.D. Vance went after first.
08:27So, my point is this.
08:29You know, our battle is now.
08:31Our battle is now.
08:37Well, I mean, I do think the midterms are going to be a blowout.
08:41I think the Democrats are going to just clean up.
08:44I mean, I guess the question is, how do you think they're going to blow it?
08:48Well, I mean...
08:51No, I don't think they can blow it.
08:53I'm not worried about that.
08:54But my point is, what does that mean?
08:56Right?
08:56I mean, like, listen.
08:57I think it's very important that the Democrats can win Congress.
09:02But what then are we going to do?
09:05Because we have to be very clear.
09:07And I take this from a very personal perspective where, I mean, I don't come from a political family.
09:12You know, I come from a family, frankly, who's used to suffering the consequences of policies and not used to
09:16making them.
09:17And when you ask many members of my family about bad policies that we've had to deal with my entire
09:22life,
09:22they couldn't tell you if a Democrat was the author or a Republican was the author.
09:26They just know it was just a stupid policy.
09:28And so I just think that we need to make sure that we have to be able to control what,
09:33in many ways,
09:34is just a completely lawless federal administration right now.
09:37However, however, our job, our job just can't be to now we can push back.
09:46We've actually got to figure out what does push forward actually look like?
09:50What does it mean to actually create a society that people can actually root for it?
09:53What does it mean to make sure that you can have childcare that people can afford
09:57and making sure that people can get back to the workforce without wondering, are my kids going to be okay?
10:01What does it mean to make sure that we can have safe streets in our neighborhoods?
10:04So, like, if the goal of all of this in November is to say,
10:07yes, we can now, you know, do subpoenas against the president,
10:11then, frankly, I think the American people are going to look at us and say that's not enough.
10:14What policies are you talking about?
10:16You saw that hurt you.
10:18Yeah.
10:19Which one?
10:19Because, like, I mean, Obamacare, that helped.
10:23That didn't hurt, right?
10:24Correct.
10:24Okay.
10:24Correct.
10:24I mean, Medicare, Social Security, I mean, that's going back a ways.
10:28Yep.
10:28But the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act.
10:31I mean, even the EPA, I mean, these are policies the government created.
10:37Correct.
10:38Mostly by Democrats, not all.
10:40What are you talking about?
10:41So I'm talking about, like, for example, if you look at what we're doing inside of the state of Maryland,
10:45it's just simply saying, are you going to do what you say you're going to do?
10:48So, for example, in my state, when I said we are going to make sure we're going to invest in
10:52childcare,
10:53because it is a ridiculous issue of parents that are trying to figure out, can I go back to the
10:58workforce,
10:58or can I make sure my kids are going to be okay?
11:00And so that's why, in Maryland, we've made the largest investments in childcare scholarships in the United States of America.
11:05Right?
11:06To give people back to work.
11:09When we said that we're going to invest in housing, and because housing is too expensive,
11:14all over this country and in the state of Maryland.
11:17And I said, well, you know what?
11:18Who's the largest landowner in the state of Maryland?
11:20Guess what?
11:21It's the state of Maryland.
11:21So I said, then you know what?
11:23We're going to take a look at all available state-owned land, and land that is near transit, near trains,
11:28near buses.
11:29I want access to all of that land, and we are going to build affordable housing on that land to
11:34give more housing for people.
11:37So this is about what are we doing to be able to push back, to make sure we're going out
11:41to these corporations
11:42and these supermarkets who are price gouging people when they walk into supermarkets.
11:46We made Maryland the first state in the country that now bans price gouging and price manipulation.
11:51So when you go into a supermarket, they can use your data against you when you go to the checkout
11:55counter.
11:56So you'd rather do that than what they're doing in New York, which is city-run.
11:59I mean, that's what Mayor, what?
12:01I see you laugh.
12:02Yeah, no, no, no.
12:02And I say good, laugh.
12:04Yeah.
12:04Because that's ridiculous.
12:05But that's what they're doing.
12:06Yeah.
12:07And of course, you know, we find out now that the supermarkets that are around the areas
12:11where the city plans to put their supermarket are very pissed off because they're like,
12:15well, of course, how are we going to compete?
12:18But, you know, Mayor Mandami, that's extreme socialism.
12:22Some would say communism.
12:23But so you're not for that because I feel like the Democratic Party has two wings now.
12:27One would be democratic socialist.
12:30That's the term they use.
12:31Mandami is one.
12:32Bernie Sanders.
12:33I mean, there are several others.
12:34AOC.
12:35Right.
12:35And then there's what I would call democratic classic.
12:38Which are you?
12:41Well, I'm going to be very honest.
12:43I mean, like when I the Democratic Party didn't choose me.
12:47Right.
12:47When I ran for governor, the Democratic Party put millions of dollars to try to stop me.
12:51It just happened the people of Maryland had a different point of view.
12:53And the people of Maryland made me the governor.
12:55But no party boss and no party made me the governor.
13:01And I like that because there is no, I honestly believe if you just swallow a party ideology, you're probably
13:09not thinking hard enough.
13:10And I don't care what party.
13:11Right.
13:12That you talk about.
13:13Yes.
13:15And, but what I want to do, but when I talk about what are the things that we've got to
13:19make sure we're focusing on, you know, when it comes to, when it comes to us.
13:23I believe that oftentimes the Democratic Party is this, you know, we have to stop being the party of no
13:28and slow and start being the party of yes and now.
13:31Yeah.
13:31Stop being the party that actually moves to address with the kind of urgency that people are requesting.
13:35If I'm telling you that, listen, I, the school that my kids are attending is not preparing them for college
13:42or career.
13:42I don't want to hear you tell me.
13:44And that's why I'm going to do a six year study.
13:45OK, but you mentioned scholarships before.
13:48And I mean, this is something Democrats, they are the party of education.
13:50That is their portfolio.
13:52So they should either own it for good or bad.
13:54Absolutely.
13:54OK, but like in Pennsylvania, Governor Shapiro, not running for president.
14:01He's he's eliminated the need for a degree, a college degree to do.
14:06I've done that, too.
14:07You have done that, too.
14:08Yeah.
14:08So you're on that page.
14:09Yeah, because I mean, because, listen, I we have eliminated this idea that somehow how we should be grading for
14:15our high schools is based on your four year college acceptance rate.
14:18Because that's not the right.
14:20That's a that's an indicator.
14:21But that's that's not something that we should be looking at.
14:24So we've actually quadrupled the amount of slots in trade programs and apprenticeship programs for our young people so that
14:30we believe in our four year colleges and we invest in them.
14:33But if someone doesn't want to go to a four year college, we still need to make sure they have
14:37a path for long term economic success and economic mobility.
14:40And so we have allowed we've allowed these four year colleges to be able to dominate this conversation as if
14:50they are the end all and be all be all.
14:52And frankly, I mean, I think I mean, Einstein, I think, was the one who said it, that if you
14:56tell a fish that the definition of a genius is of genius is climbing a tree, then that fish will
15:01always feel like it's insufficient.
15:02We need to make sure that all of our young people understand that there is a place for them and
15:07there's a place for their long term success, regardless of what academic pathway they chose to choose to go down.
15:13OK, so Governor Newsom here, I think he's on our show next week, also not running for president, completely not
15:25running for president.
15:27He said if the Democrats want to win again, they have to be what was more culturally normal.
15:33How do you interpret that statement? And would you agree with that?
15:39Um, listen, I don't. What I would say is this is that the Democrats don't have a messaging problem.
15:48We have a results problem.
15:50There's a results problem when we are turning around and not producing the kind of results with the kind of
15:55speed.
15:55That is necessary and required. And you know who exploited that beautifully?
16:00Donald Trump.
16:02Because Donald Trump, Donald Trump was a fantastic vessel for the frustration.
16:06Right. He points things out like nobody else's business.
16:09He's just not a vehicle for the solution.
16:12Donald Trump was the one who was pointing out, you know what?
16:14We've done all this work around electric vehicles and all this kind of thing and passed a big bill around
16:19it.
16:19And you know how many electric charging stations we had by December of twenty twenty four thirty seven.
16:26He pointed that out.
16:27He pointed out the fact that we are now still watching inflation continue to rise.
16:33Now, he's done nothing but watch inflation rise under him as well.
16:36But again, he is a fantastic vessel for the frustration.
16:39I have an honest belief and I think about it again with my with my own family.
16:43I joined the army when I was 17 years old and there's a philosophy we turned that we learned when
16:49I was 17.
16:50Leave no one behind.
16:51I think that the Democratic Party continue to embrace this idea of leave no one behind and making sure we
16:57can move with the speed and urgency that people don't feel like they're being left behind.
17:01Then we're not going to have an electoral problem again.
17:04And you've actually just fixed your messaging problem by actually addressing with real results.
17:08Don't you think the Democrats have a problem with their primaries?
17:11I mean, everybody does because it only encourages the far extreme wing of the party.
17:16That's true of the Republicans.
17:18True.
17:18I mean, if you were to run for president, I'm not saying you are, of course, but you would have
17:24to get through the primary process.
17:27Now, we talked about this when we had lunch at my friend's recently.
17:30I said, I think you're a great one to do it in the Democratic Party because you wear the magic
17:35armor.
17:35It's just the truth that a black candidate can say things and has permission to be more centrist in the
17:42Democratic Party than a white candidate.
17:44Would you agree with that?
17:46I think that the closed primary process has run its course.
17:51You know, because I think the problem is the fastest growing political party in this country right now is independents.
17:58It's people who are saying, I do not affiliate with Democrats and I do not affiliate with Republicans.
18:02Here's the problem.
18:04Independents cannot vote until November.
18:07Their voice cannot be heard.
18:08And when you're looking at the massive gerrymandering that's taking place, for example, in the Congress,
18:12where over 92% of these congressional districts, they're even 92% are not competitive.
18:17By November, it doesn't matter.
18:19And so if that's the system that we have, you have a system where more and more people are disenfranchised,
18:24more and more people are taken out of the process.
18:26And so I think the whole idea of a closed primary system is one that has to be reevaluated
18:31because if you believe in democracy, then let people's voices be heard and don't make them be a happy affiliate
18:36of the political party.
18:37All right. Well, you're good at this.
18:39I never got you down.
18:41You never got me down, Ray.
18:45Governor Westmore, I'll see you after the show.
18:48Thank you. Thank you.
18:48You're coming back for over time, Grace.
18:49I'll see you again.
18:50All right. Thank you.
18:51Let's meet our panel.
18:58Couldn't get him down. All right.
19:00He hosts the Chris Cuomo Project Podcast on the fastest growing cable news show, Cuomo on NewsNation.
19:05Chris Cuomo is here with us.
19:10OK.
19:10She's the editor of the dispatcher's SCOTUS blog, whose new book is called Last Branch Standing.
19:15Sarah Isger. Sarah, great to have you back.
19:19OK.
19:21Let's take a break from the war this week, shall we?
19:24It does seem to be just Groundhog Day.
19:27So this is the big story today.
19:29The Justice Department is dropping its criminal investigation of Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell.
19:35Now, this gets to something I want to ask you about, because you have this theory that, you know, we're
19:39actually blocking Trump more than people say.
19:42And I've read that, too.
19:44Now, the Fed chair, the Fed is...
19:46Is that monetary policy or fiscal policy?
19:50Right?
19:50One of them is...
19:52OK.
19:53We're all stumped on that one.
19:54This is one...
19:55I was just letting you go.
19:57It's monetary policy.
19:58Monetary.
20:00OK.
20:00Well, these are one of those norms we never used to fuck with.
20:02But, of course, Trump fucks with every norm.
20:05So, and Jerome Powell, he's the chairman of the Fed, and he did not do what Trump wanted.
20:09And Trump has one speed when you defy him, publicly at least, which is, I'm going to kill you.
20:15So, he went after...
20:17Listen to this.
20:18He went after Jerome Powell.
20:19You know what for?
20:20Redecorating.
20:21I'm not joking.
20:22They were building a new headquarters, and there were cost overruns, like Trump would not know about cost overruns in
20:28buildings.
20:29So, he had his attack dog, Jeanine Pirro, the U.S. attorney there now, go after him.
20:33The judge said, essentially, zero evidence in this case.
20:36But it does bring up this point.
20:38You know, is Trump being blocked more?
20:41I mean, you say it's the court, the Supreme Court is doing it, right?
20:45Yeah.
20:45Legally, he's being blocked at every turn.
20:47The Supreme Court has blocked him on alien enemies for immigration.
20:50They blocked him on federalizing the National Guard in Chicago.
20:53They blocked him on tariffs.
20:55They're definitely going to block him on birthright citizenship.
20:57The reason that Lisa Cook...
20:59Mail-in voting?
21:00Is that going to...?
21:00Mail-in voting is coming, although that at least is a statutory question for Congress, in theory.
21:06The question of whether someone can apply for asylum at the southern border, though, that's an executive action.
21:11Lisa Cook is still a governor on the Federal Reserve because the Supreme Court blocked President Trump's ability to remove
21:17her.
21:18But, and this is where I think you and I might agree, the Supreme Court, the lower courts, can block
21:23Trump every which way.
21:25All these indictments against James Comey or law firms or universities.
21:30But there is a political cost.
21:32There is still the fact that then people are afraid of being sued.
21:36People are afraid of being indicted, and it changes their behavior.
21:39So he may lose legally and still win politically, culturally, normatively.
21:44That's not good.
21:45No.
21:46He...
21:49Yeah.
21:54Yeah, I know this personally.
21:56Okay.
21:57You know, I mean, a lot of us in the media do.
21:59So do I.
22:00I mean...
22:00The club you never wanted to join.
22:02No, I...
22:02What's it like to be targeted by the President of the United States?
22:05Oh, yeah.
22:06It's okay.
22:07I don't know.
22:07It's kind of a fun club, dude.
22:08I'd rather be engaged than just not engaged at all.
22:11I think as long as he...
22:12Because he has said once, and I think he's right about this, he said,
22:16what people don't get about me is I have no permanent enemies.
22:19Like, one day, you're out.
22:21Next day, you're in.
22:22Next day, it's like it never happened.
22:24I'd rather have it that way and talk to them and keep the dialogue going
22:28because, you know, I've said many times, I think we need more people like me talking to them.
22:32You know, you can...
22:35You can, uh...
22:37You can hyperventilate all you want about what he does is wrong.
22:41I agree.
22:41It should not be a government by people are saying.
22:44He should be home reading the briefing books like Obama did.
22:48But that's not going to happen.
22:49It is a government by people are saying.
22:52Be one of the people saying.
22:54I would just, like, yes.
22:56I'm glad you're talking to him.
22:58I agree with your point.
22:59Although, the problem is, when you have a president who is talking to somebody,
23:02like you, he's also talking to Laura Loomer.
23:04And if I have to pick, I'd rather take both of you off the map.
23:08You've never been compared to her.
23:09Why me?
23:10Why would you take me off the map?
23:11Not me, Bill.
23:12I wouldn't take you off.
23:13What about me should be compared to Laura Loomer?
23:15I'm saying we get the same ones and we get the insane ones.
23:19Woo!
23:21You lost them with the Loomer thing.
23:23Yeah, really lost me there.
23:24It's all right.
23:25I'll show myself that.
23:25You'll be back.
23:26You'll be back.
23:27You can work yourself back in.
23:29I've been where you are right now.
23:30It's a little cold, but it'll get better.
23:34So what is the scorecard on backing Trump?
23:36Because a lot of people would say the Supreme Court, when they ruled that he had,
23:40what was it, complete immunity to do whatever he wanted?
23:42What was the, what was the...
23:44For a core constitutional, yes.
23:47Absolute immunity for actions that relate to core or exclusive presidential powers.
23:52That does seem sweeping.
23:54No?
23:54Look, uh, one shameless plug.
23:57Sarah's book is really good.
23:59Uh, the, the, the last branch standing about what the Supreme Court is supposed to be about.
24:04They are in a jam now.
24:06Because the answer to your question about whether they're checking Trump more is they have to.
24:10He is doing more absurd bullshit as president of the United States than we have ever seen before.
24:18We have never had a president even think about, you know what I'm going to do?
24:22Let me just sign this right now and change the constitution.
24:26Nobody has ever been ignorant and arrogant enough to try something like that.
24:32That I'm going to change birthright citizenship.
24:33I don't think that's the way it works for us anymore.
24:36They have to check him.
24:38The problem is, I feel bad for the people who voted for him because they were right to want to
24:42see the law fair stop.
24:44They were right to want to see it stop.
24:46You should not use your power to punish your political enemies.
24:49And we saw way too much of it.
24:51The problem is, he's doing more of it than ever.
24:53And for the DOJ, which, you know, Sarah was the voice of the DOJ.
24:57Glad you're not right now, by the way, you know.
24:59Me too!
25:00Not the book sales, but, you know, that they usually, if you hear, God forbid they're looking at you,
25:06Bill, you better call everybody you know because you've got problems.
25:09But now they lose cases.
25:11They have like a 97% conviction rate.
25:14He's bringing it down.
25:15Why?
25:15B.S. cases that are just political payback.
25:18James Comey, that was embarrassing.
25:20What they just did with Powell was embarrassing.
25:23And they're losing.
25:24What they're doing with the Southern Poverty Law Center,
25:27people really are going to believe that they created the KKK?
25:30Okay, so we agree that he is being blocked.
25:34I always said the thing about him that was just the biggest thing for me,
25:37he doesn't concede elections.
25:39If you don't have elections, if you don't have the peaceful transfer of power,
25:43you don't have the country.
25:44Another time the court blocked him, unanimously.
25:46On what?
25:47After 2020.
25:48Right?
25:48He appealed and appealed to try to...
25:50Every federalist society judge said no,
25:53and the Supreme Court unanimously was like, get out of here.
25:55Okay.
25:56Good.
25:56But, I mean, judge...
25:58I mean, he's very mad at his own justices now.
26:00He said this week, certain Republican judges have gone weak, stupid, and bad.
26:07He uses all the big words.
26:08I gotta get him if that's all.
26:09He knows all the words.
26:10I do.
26:11He knows all the words.
26:12All the best words he knows.
26:13My five-year-old knows those.
26:14But you know, I've always thought, I mean, look, justices,
26:18whatever judge you are, I mean, there's a whole big wall of law books behind you.
26:24I don't think they really go to the idea of, what does the actual law say?
26:30They go by their gut.
26:31They go by what they believe, and then they find a reason in one of those law books.
26:35It's very much like the Bible.
26:36You can find anything you want in the Bible.
26:39And by the way, they're doing a Bible reading this week.
26:41The whole country for our 205th anniversary, because we're a Christian nation.
26:48Not really, but that's what they think.
26:50They're all reading the Bible, like Trump is taking a paragraph or something,
26:55and they're all, or whatever it is in the Bible, a passage.
26:58In Texas, they're putting the Ten Commandments back in schools?
27:01The Ten Commandments are back in the school.
27:03And the Fifth Circuit judge in Texas said this is okay?
27:07Were you on that?
27:09Yeah, I clerked on the Fifth Circuit for the judge who wrote that.
27:13So, look, this is actually another interesting part,
27:15because have I got a book for you, Bill, to read?
27:17I think you'll really like it.
27:18What's it called?
27:19Last Branch Standing Press.
27:21Thank you for asking that.
27:26So, this narrative that the court is so conservative, right,
27:30and it's just controlled by Trump,
27:31the Ninth Circuit used to be the court that was overturned the most.
27:34That was the Liberal Ninth Circuit where we are now, California in the West.
27:38That's not the court being overturned the most by the Supreme Court anymore.
27:41It's the Fifth Circuit because of cases like this Ten Commandments case.
27:45And if you really want to look at what the court is doing these days
27:48and why it is, you know, so much part of our conversation,
27:52why I can write a book about it,
27:54it's because Congress isn't doing anything anymore.
27:56So, it used to be the Supreme Court would say yes or no,
27:59and then Congress could just pass a law the next day.
28:02None of us believe that they will do that.
28:03None of us believe that we have the power to amend the Constitution anymore.
28:07So, we keep looking to the Supreme Court to be the last word on things,
28:11when, in fact, it was supposed to be part of this dialogue.
28:13They're not politically accountable, and so the pressure builds
28:15because we feel like we can't change it.
28:17They don't answer to us. They're not supposed to.
28:20They're counter-majoritarian.
28:21They're supposed to tell all of us to go buzz off,
28:24like they did in Brown v. Board of Education
28:26and West Virginia v. Barnett.
28:28Their worst decisions are the ones where they went with the majority
28:30in Dred Scott, in Plessy, in Korematsu.
28:33Buck v. Bell's my favorite, the eugenicist case,
28:36if you haven't read that one.
28:36Yeah, we don't all know those, just by the way.
28:39I mean...
28:41It's a reading list.
28:42We get it. We get it. You're the expert.
28:46By the way, Laura Loomer sued me and I won this week.
28:49Oh, man. I told you.
28:50I told you.
28:51I told you.
28:52I told you.
28:54That was wrong.
28:55I'm not...
28:56No commentary. That's just a fact.
28:58Okay.
28:59But let me go back to the Ten Commandments just a little bit,
29:02because it seems such a clear case that you shouldn't have the Ten Commandments in a school.
29:06The school is just for learning. It should be.
29:08Now, obviously, the left has fucked that up, too.
29:11I mean, there's lots of leftist indoctrination in schools.
29:14So, both sides play.
29:15But this one seems very clear.
29:17I'd also like to ask all the anti-Semites out there,
29:20who seem to populate both the left and the right,
29:23who love the Ten Commandments so much,
29:24are you aware that this is a complete Jew-y thing?
29:29The Ten Commandments.
29:31It's...
29:32Well, it is.
29:33It's...
29:34I mean, it's...
29:36It was written many, many years before Christ came along.
29:39It's just Jews talking to Jews about Jews.
29:41Chosen people conversation.
29:43A chosen people conversation.
29:44Look, okay.
29:45All right.
29:45I think that you get it in the picture of the guy who's fighting to put them in the school
29:52is a guy who has some of the ugliest allegations against him of immorality.
29:57And what we don't want to do with all these people of faith in our society,
30:02which is great, depending on how you use it,
30:04live the Ten Commandments.
30:06Show us how you live.
30:08Don't just say what you want us to think about you.
30:12And for Paxton to say, yeah, I'm going to put the Ten Commandments in,
30:15when he clearly only knows, like, two of them in terms of his own life,
30:19what is the message for people?
30:21Well, those kindergarteners committing adultery, really,
30:24if they had it up there, maybe they wouldn't do it.
30:25Yes.
30:26Coveting is a big word in lower school these days.
30:29You know?
30:29Covet, covet.
30:30The kids are crazy about it.
30:31All right.
30:31Well, before we lose track of time,
30:34I did want to congratulate Trump on one thing this week.
30:37He made it easier to smoke pot.
30:40And I've got to say,
30:41all of us pot smokers have been asking somebody to make marijuana less criminalized.
30:47And hopefully, he's got to help with hemp.
30:49Hopefully, he does.
30:50Well, good luck trying to get high on hemp.
30:54Some people use it for other things, but I take your point.
30:56It's the only useful for other things.
30:58It is a biological cousin of the stuff I smoke.
31:02Yes.
31:03It is not something you can smoke.
31:04It should never have been illegal in the first place.
31:07Yeah.
31:07Okay.
31:08But it brings me to the bigger story that, you know, Trump is a teetotaler.
31:12He really does not like liquor because I think he lost his breath in alcoholism.
31:16Okay.
31:17But it turns out that that administration does not follow the leader, the boss on this one.
31:23Yeah.
31:23I mean, this week, we found out the big story.
31:25Cash Patel is suing the Atlantic because they wrote this story.
31:29And he denies it, of course.
31:31But they say, you know, he sometimes didn't show up at work because it's too much the night before.
31:35And then there's, oh, there's that picture.
31:40Yeah.
31:40I mean, we have, I mean, oh, but you know what?
31:43That doesn't say anything.
31:45I don't believe it just because the Atlantic said it.
31:47It might be true.
31:48And so they got a picture with a bottle in his mouth.
31:50We've all had a bottle in our mouth.
31:54When we were babies.
31:57You've never had a beer in your mouth, Chris?
31:58Yeah, but I've never been telling people I don't drink.
32:01Okay.
32:01And you don't have to worry about it.
32:03And then he's literally downing the whole thing.
32:05I mean, take a break.
32:06Okay.
32:07But does that really...
32:08See, this is just the...
32:09Look, do I care if he drinks or not?
32:11No.
32:11Do I care that you put somebody who is selling conspiracies about Epstein into the highest
32:16position of power at the DOJ?
32:18Okay.
32:18Yeah, that bothers me.
32:18All right.
32:19That bothers me.
32:21All right.
32:27So, the point is, it is kind of a boozy administration.
32:30Because I remember Janine Pirro, who's now the U.S. Attorney.
32:34I remember when she was on Fox News.
32:35That was always the talk about her.
32:37Again, I don't know if it's true or not.
32:38And then there's the Labor Secretary.
32:41She quit this week because apparently the same kind of rumors.
32:44And, of course, there was always Pete Hegseth.
32:46I mean...
32:47Now, those pictures I would agree with.
32:49Okay.
32:50We don't know.
32:50But we thought we, as a PSA, because we're always trying to do service to this country...
32:57We would want to put a little guideline to know if you are part of a too-boozy administration.
33:02Would you like to see if you...
33:03These are just some of the ways you can tell.
33:08For example, if among all your colleagues no one can remember who ordered the attack on Venezuela.
33:19If cabinet meetings begin at 5 o'clock somewhere.
33:28If RFK asked if you'd like to see a dead raccoon penis and you said yes.
33:38If you got arrested because you were climbing on the ballroom construction equipment in the middle of the night.
33:44Yes.
33:46Definitely a sign.
33:47Oh.
33:49Here's one.
33:50You keep slurring your ethnic slurs.
33:58If everybody does a shot every time the Strait of Hormuz opens back up.
34:04That's kind of understandable, that one.
34:08If when you tell a Senate panel, I don't recall, you actually don't recall.
34:19You appear on Face the Nation with a dick drawn on your forehead.
34:27Too boozy.
34:28If you wake up on the couch and Lindsey Graham is making waffles in a bathroom, that is definitely a
34:35sign.
34:37I'm just...
34:38It's a public service, people.
34:40And if everyone keeps asking, do you think Hunter Biden left any more cocaine lying around?
34:46No.
34:48Okay.
34:49So...
34:52All right.
34:52Now let's talk about the big political bombshell that happened this week, which was the state of Virginia.
34:58They gerrymandered the fuck out of the state.
35:01And I hate to sound like a five year old, but Trump started it.
35:06He did.
35:07I mean, now it's out of control, but that's just the fact.
35:10He started it.
35:12He encouraged Texas to do this, where they...
35:14And I thought, like, I had Eric Holder on, like, not that many, a couple of years ago.
35:19And it was like, we're going to fix gerrymandering, and we're going to stop it.
35:21Because, you know, gerrymandering is just not fair.
35:24Both sides do it.
35:25And then Trump just, of course, had to make it worse.
35:28So now, Virginia, it looks like it's going to be only the suburbs.
35:33We were talking to the governor of Maryland there.
35:36Only his people, his constituents in that area.
35:40Those are the suburbs around D.C.
35:42That's part of Virginia.
35:44And they're all...
35:44Mostly, they do work in the government.
35:46That's why so many government workers got fired.
35:48So many people in Maryland got fired, because the government workers...
35:51They're going to gerrymander the state, so, like, almost all the votes are coming from there.
35:56And the rest of the state's a big state full of hicks.
35:59And I say that in a not-in-a-mean way.
36:03Hicks don't have to be stupid.
36:04You're a hick, okay.
36:05I live in Virginia.
36:06Yeah, but people...
36:08Oh, you do?
36:09Yeah, one of that other part.
36:11Which part do you live in?
36:12I live right on the hick to Democrat line.
36:19Okay.
36:25But this is just a race to the bottom, is it not?
36:28Because now, I mean, California has done it.
36:30Illinois has done it.
36:31Maryland has done it.
36:32We're just going to get to...
36:33It was like the last pillar of somewhat a resemblance of democracy,
36:37that we didn't fully do this, and now we're just going to do it,
36:40or every state is just rigged, rigged.
36:42Okay.
36:43On the one hand, I think it's really funny to fight over which party should control
36:48a branch of government that doesn't do anything anymore.
36:50Like, why are we fighting over Congress?
36:52What's the...
36:53That's hysterical.
36:54What's the point?
36:55That's a great take on that.
36:57Yeah.
36:57But okay, like, that's a fun, you know, tug-of-war Team Jersey thing to play.
37:03Virginia used to have a bipartisan, nonpartisan redistricting commission.
37:08So we're actually getting worse.
37:10But here's the good news.
37:11In order to gerrymander this hard in all of these states, you actually do have to make
37:17the districts more competitive.
37:19So in a wave election, like what we're planning to have this fall where Democrats will take...
37:25Wait.
37:25What do you mean make it more competitive?
37:27How can we...
37:27Well, each district gets gerrymandered to make sure that Democrats can win,
37:32but instead of winning some seats by, you know, 80%, now they can only win them by 54%, 55%.
37:38Oh, I see.
37:39Right.
37:39Because you're...
37:39In a wave election, the water would swamp you out.
37:42So Texas, my home state, Trump pressured them into doing it like you said.
37:46They started this, they're actually quite likely to lose many of the seats they gerrymandered
37:51if the Democratic wave gets high enough.
37:54Mm-hmm.
37:54They will be underwater.
37:55And in a year where there's a Republican wave, these Virginia seats will actually be
38:00lost by Democrats.
38:01So, like, maybe...
38:03Again, I don't know what we're fighting over.
38:04Again, a branch that, like, sits on Instagram and, like, takes pictures of themselves
38:07and says, send me $5.
38:09So glad one party controls that.
38:11Phew!
38:12Wow.
38:13Oh, come on.
38:16If the Democrats have the kind of success a lot of us think they're going to have in
38:21the midterms, you don't think that's gonna make a difference?
38:24You don't think that's gonna be different if the Democrats control all the committees
38:28in that Congress?
38:29They will not pass so much more not passing of legislation.
38:32You're right.
38:32Wow.
38:33They'll do oversight and they'll have hearings where they do more Instagram reels to raise
38:38more money.
38:38They're not gonna actually use the power of the purse, pass legislation.
38:42They might impeach someone.
38:43They're certainly not gonna convict them in the Senate, so it'll be another great...
38:46That's the one thing they can't do is impeach.
38:48You're right.
38:49That needs 67...
38:49They can't impeach.
38:50They cannot remove.
38:51Yeah, right.
38:52That's the problem.
38:53Okay.
38:53Well, nobody cares about that.
38:54Well, but I'll tell you when you care is when you see six months of your life vanish
38:58because you're watching that process unfold and you know how it's gonna end when you've
39:02been through it twice before and they're doing it for the same reason they do the gerrymandering,
39:07which is all that matters to these people now is the retention of their own power.
39:11And I think the reason it's important this is happening is for people to see what the
39:15governor was talking to you about.
39:17Independent is the fastest growing part of the electorate for a reason, which is they
39:21hate the parties.
39:22And the more people are anti-party, the better a chance we have that anything gets better.
39:27Hmm.
39:27Although on the flip side...
39:32Chris and I were talking about this.
39:33On the flip side, the reason...
39:35So independents now are more than Republican or Democrats for the first time in American
39:39history.
39:40More people don't identify with a political party.
39:42I would argue it's because we don't have political parties anymore.
39:45We got rid of them with campaign finance reform in 2002, which sounded like a good idea.
39:50But it means there is no one keeping all of the, you know, inmates in the asylum anymore.
39:56The parties have no carrots, no sticks to keep these people in line, no policy agenda.
40:00There's no policy platform for either party.
40:03Donald Trump defeated the Republican Party before he defeated the Democratic Party in 2016.
40:08That's because we don't have political parties.
40:10And I loved not having political parties until I saw the result now.
40:14And I'm like, this isn't better.
40:16But all his original fans are turning on him.
40:18Have you seen that?
40:19I mean, this week, Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson both renounced the leader.
40:27As...
40:28Candace Owens did it.
40:30Alex Jones.
40:32All the people.
40:32All people I look to for advice.
40:34I know.
40:34I know.
40:35It's like, look, I respect how seriously you're laying this out.
40:39I do.
40:40I do.
40:40But just think about what it says about where we are.
40:44That we are in a place where we are looking at Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan as
40:49bellwethers of our political status.
40:52You know?
40:53Like, wow, Rogan.
40:54What am I going to do now that he's not with Trump?
40:57It's like we are in mouth breather land in terms of how we formulate our positions.
41:02It's like, oh, Tucker Carlson, he got attacked by a demon last week in his bedroom.
41:07But now he's seen the light about Trump.
41:09I don't know how to feel.
41:10You know?
41:10It's a weird place.
41:13We're in a weird place.
41:16We're in a weird place.
41:16It's a weird...
41:17I never thought I would say that.
41:19Wow.
41:19Tucker Carlson.
41:20Yeah.
41:20Trump's going to have a problem.
41:21He's going to have a problem keeping the faithful in there.
41:23He's got Joe Rogan, you know, the psychedelics, you know.
41:26Thank God he had that.
41:28Otherwise, he would have lost him completely.
41:29I think there's a difference between Joe Rogan and Candace Owens and Alex Jones.
41:32I do.
41:33I think there's a bit of a difference.
41:34I hope so.
41:37Well, I don't know.
41:38He's apparently going to the...
41:40Trump is the correspondence dinner this year.
41:42I'm very interested to see what this is going to look like.
41:44Because, you know, the correspondence dinner...
41:46I think I did it one year.
41:48They used to have comedians.
41:49By the way, I said that because I got shit about it.
41:52Every comedian gets shit about it.
41:53It's the worst gig in the world because half the people in the audience are Republican,
41:56half the Democrats.
41:57You're going to insult anybody, whatever they say.
42:00So they always...
42:00I said, just get a magician.
42:02Just get somebody who doesn't do political...
42:04They listen.
42:04They're always trying to get the political...
42:06And that's like the worst thing.
42:07Now they've got a mentalist.
42:09So they can have a mentalist and a mental patient there.
42:13No, I kid.
42:15I joke with the president.
42:20But, you know, the president traditionally...
42:22I mean, this is why Trump...
42:23A lot of people say this is why he ran for president in the first week.
42:26Because he was at the one where Obama just tore him a new asshole from the podium.
42:30And now he's going to get a chance to say all sorts of insulting things to the press,
42:35just like any one of his press conferences.
42:36So it's not really that different.
42:38Look, I agreed to do this show so I could avoid that dinner tomorrow night.
42:41So thank you so much.
42:42Oh, really?
42:43Yeah.
42:45That's the reason I'm here.
42:47I wasn't invited.
42:49No, I wasn't.
42:49But I wouldn't have gone if they had invited me.
42:51I want you to know that right now.
42:52Right.
42:53I would have said no.
42:54And I'm going to give that tuxedo back right away.
42:58Blue.
42:58But he...
42:59I mean, it's kind of interesting because, you know, when I look at the list of Paramount,
43:04which now apparently owns me, paid $16 million to settle a lawsuit.
43:12You know, this is the media that he's talking to here over the 60 Minutes interview with Kamala Harris.
43:18Disney, one of my other old sponsors that fired me once, agreed to pay $16 million over the George Stephanopoulos
43:27interview.
43:28I mean, they famously took Jimmy Kimmel off the air for a while.
43:31I mean, it's a little awkward, him speaking to the people who he also calls the enemy of the American
43:38people.
43:38He literally calls them the enemy, which I find to be...
43:43I mean, I would be personally affronted by it, but, you know, he does that to everybody.
43:47But it is the fourth estate.
43:49I mean, when you take on the press like that, I think you are flirting with something that really knocks
43:54out one of the pillars of what we love about this country.
43:57Well, look, I think that we all get it.
44:00We just don't know how anything gets better anymore.
44:04And I don't have any problem with nerd prom.
44:06You know, I get that people like to get dressed up.
44:09They like to go...
44:10Is that what you call it? Nerd prom?
44:11Yeah, everybody calls it...
44:12D.C. Hollywood for ugly people.
44:14That's what we've always called it.
44:15I see.
44:16It's the nerd prom, and that's great, that's great.
44:18Well, I wasn't invited, you know, I'm too good looking.
44:20So, you know, what I think you'll see there also, Bill, is how manufactured this is.
44:25The division is manufactured.
44:27Trump hates you, as you said, until he doesn't.
44:29And he's gonna go there, and he's gonna get laughs.
44:32And you'll see that all these people who are there who are saying, you know,
44:35they are not real journalists and this isn't real one, they're all getting along.
44:38It's a club.
44:39And once you understand that, you realize why things don't change.
44:45Really? You think that's...
44:48I'm glad there's a club.
44:49I mean, again, to bring this back to the Supreme Court a little, that's the branch that is functioning.
44:54That's the branch that gets along.
44:55They actually spend time together.
44:57They have lunch three, four times a week after they have oral argument,
45:01where they are not allowed to talk about work.
45:02They have to talk about sports or what their kids are majoring in.
45:07Amy Coney Barrett loves binge-watching slow horses.
45:10She was super pumped about the new season.
45:12Like, this is a good thing for people to actually have to see each other as huge.
45:16humans.
45:17And I hope that's what happens at the White House Correspondents' Dinner.
45:20I read that reality TV viewership is plummeting.
45:24And I think politics is downstream from culture.
45:26And I hope we are turning the ship slowly away from reality politics.
45:31All right. Let's end on that positive note.
45:34All right. Thank you. And you're both beautiful people.
45:36It's time for New Rule, everybody. New Rule.
45:40New Rule.
45:41What?
45:42Okay.
45:45Okay, New Rule, don't make your babies spout your political opinions for you.
45:51You don't know what that kid believes.
45:53He looks pretty maggot to me.
45:59I say to babies what right-wingers say to athletes.
46:03Shut up and dribble.
46:09Newell, if you complain about Columbus Day
46:11because it ignores the fact that he killed Indians
46:14and you complain about President's Day
46:16because it ignores the fact that Washington owned slaves,
46:20then you can't happily go see a movie
46:22where Michael Jackson doesn't sleep with kids.
46:31Which is the movie that's out now
46:33where we just hear about the fun things Michael did.
46:35It's playing on a double bill with Jeffrey Epstein,
46:38super host extraordinaire, and John Wayne Gacy.
46:42Thanks for the laugh.
46:49Newell, now that Red Lobster is reviving its endless shrimp deal
46:53two years after they stopped doing it
46:55because it had led to an $11 million loss,
46:58they must tell us, how can this work financially?
47:01Unless you're planning to sell some outdated stash of frozen shrimp
47:05that you've had on ice since 2009.
47:07Oh, I see.
47:10Newell, let's all give President Trump credit where credit is due,
47:18for forcing Iran to call off their scheduled execution of these women protesters.
47:23It was the right thing to do, and it sends a powerful message to the world.
47:27If you're a woman in Iran, and you look hot at least an eight,
47:32America has your back.
47:41New rule, shopping in the grocery store has to stop making me feel
47:45like I'm flirting with statutory rape.
47:48What's with very young, small, sweet peas?
47:54And tater tots, and baby carrots, and extra virgin olive oil?
48:02Gee, if I wanted to feel this pervy, I'll go see the Michael Jackson movie.
48:12And finally, new rule, someone has to explain the American economy to me.
48:17I know I've said this before, I still don't get it.
48:20Last week was tax day, and as usual, because HBO is so generous,
48:25and I'm sure so will be the new owners.
48:30I paid to the government, if you add in state tax, local, sales, property, fees,
48:36Obamacare, probably almost 60% of what I earn.
48:41That's a lot.
48:41And I still wouldn't mind if Bernie Sanders would stop saying
48:45the rich don't pay taxes.
48:53And while I'm sure the super-rich, with their army of accountants
48:57and corporate loopholes, get away with murder,
48:59us regular rich people pay a shit ton of taxes.
49:03And who stands up and gives us a pat on the back?
49:05Nobody, that's who.
49:14The top 10% pay 72% of all federal income taxes,
49:20and the bottom half, 3%.
49:22The democratic socialists talk about socialism
49:25like we don't already have a lot.
49:28Social security, unemployment, Medicare, nutritional assistance,
49:32Medicaid, Obamacare, disability, housing subsidies.
49:35Again, not against it, just the same question.
49:38How can you be soaking the rich and failing the poor so badly?
49:49So badly that on 60 Minutes last week,
49:52they were redoing the story they did 18 years ago
49:55about remote area medical.
49:58That is the program modeled after medical teams
50:01that drop into the poorest countries in the world
50:03for a few days to set up a tent
50:05where people with no access to health care can get some.
50:09And now we're one of those countries.
50:11Doctors within borders.
50:20How can it be that the federal government alone
50:23took in over $5 trillion in taxes last year
50:27and we still need that?
50:28Are we really this incompetent and corrupt?
50:31Don't answer that.
50:34Whatever it is, somehow the ultra-rich
50:36keep getting ultra-richer
50:38while a growing percentage is feeling truly desperate.
50:42You just wouldn't know it
50:43because everyone on TV is rich.
50:45Reality TV?
50:46Rich women day drinking.
50:49Drama?
50:50Rich women whose friend got murdered.
50:53Comedy?
50:54Rich men shouting into cell phones.
50:56But these are the people with all the money.
50:59Get this.
51:00The richest one-tenth
51:01now does half of all the spending.
51:03Somehow we created an economy
51:05where the number of households
51:07worth $20 million or more
51:10is 644,000.
51:14Wow, that's a lot of people with $20 million.
51:17And all of them are looking for a girlfriend
51:19on sugarbabies.com.
51:23Yeah.
51:25Yeah.
51:29Corporations go where the money is.
51:31Las Vegas used to be the town of $8
51:34all-you-can-eat buffets
51:35and hotels where every room was $29.
51:38No, not anymore.
51:39Go fuck yourself.
51:40We don't want you.
51:42Their business model now
51:43is they only want the high rollers.
51:45Are you a whale?
51:46No?
51:47Then float yourself back out to sea.
51:56Who that is not rich could afford a concert now?
52:01Woodstock was free.
52:02Now if you want to see Morgan Wallen,
52:04you have to take out a second mortgage on your trailer.
52:09I kid the Hicks.
52:11I love the Hicks.
52:15Disneyland for a family of four
52:17to spend the weekend.
52:19Between the cost of the tickets
52:21plus lodging, airfare, rental car, souvenirs, food,
52:25we're talking $10,000.
52:27To afford that, the average dad
52:28would have to be cooking meth on the side.
52:39The Disneyland's staff manual used to read,
52:43we roll out the red carpet
52:44for the Jones family from Joliet
52:46just as we would for the Eisenhowers from Palm Springs.
52:50No, you don't.
52:52Because the Eisenhowers from Palm Springs
52:54can buy a Lightning Lane Premier Pass
52:57that lets you skip the lines.
52:59The Jones family can suck my dick.
53:11And Mickey could give a rat's ass.
53:15Because that's what our economy has become.
53:19In 1992, a Lego speedboat toy set cost $2.99.
53:25Today, Lego sells Titanic for $680.
53:29It's an educational toy
53:31because you learn it sucks to be poor.
53:36And nowhere is that more true
53:38than when it comes to health care.
53:40Money can't buy happiness,
53:42but it sure can buy healthiness.
53:45Half the country can buy access
53:46to concierge doctors,
53:49specialists, new treatments,
53:51personal trainers,
53:52nutritionists, private chefs,
53:54and whatever Gwyneth Paltrow is putting in her vagina.
54:06And the other half has the place I was just talking about,
54:10Remote Area Medical,
54:12the pop-up health care clinic
54:13that rolls into town once a year like a county fair,
54:17except instead of riding the tilt-a-whirl,
54:19a volunteer doctor pulls your infected tooth.
54:22And the saddest thing in the 60 Minutes piece
54:26is that nothing has changed
54:27since they covered it in 2008.
54:30Same line of cars parked overnight
54:33so people make sure to get seen.
54:35Same people who work two jobs
54:37but still can't afford to see a doctor
54:39unless a touring non-profit
54:41sets up shop in a parking lot.
54:43But here's the truth.
54:44You're not going to get health care to these people
54:47by threatening to tax and eat the rich.
54:50You raise billionaires' taxes,
54:52they just leave the state.
54:54Or they leave the country.
54:55Or in some cases, the planet.
55:04I kid, Elon, but you know,
55:05he had a good idea recently
55:07that might be apropos here.
55:08During the recent government shutdown,
55:10he volunteered to pay all the TSA workers himself.
55:14You know, with couch money.
55:18That's how super-rich our super-rich are.
55:21They can single-handedly fund
55:23entire government programs.
55:25Okay, so let's make that a thing.
55:28The Adopt-A-Cause Challenge for Billionaires.
55:39Teachers who buy school supplies
55:41with their own money
55:42or people without homes
55:43or disaster victims,
55:45whatever it is,
55:45make the rich folks
55:47competitive about solving it.
55:49Because that's all they care about anyway,
55:51beating each other.
55:56Yeah.
55:57Just skip the middleman.
55:59The government
56:00and the healthcare bureaucracies
56:01that, for whatever reason,
56:02no matter how much they take in,
56:04never seem to get enough to the people.
56:06And just shame the billionaires
56:08into doing it directly.
56:09Because they have all the money.
56:11And noblesse oblige
56:12isn't just the name of a cologne.
56:15All right.
56:15Thank you very much.
56:16That's our show.
56:17I want to thank Chris Cobo,
56:19Sarah Isger,
56:20Governor Westmore,
56:21Collaborative drops every Monday
56:23on YouTube
56:23or listening wherever
56:24you get your podcasts.
56:26Now go watch Overtime on YouTube.
56:28Thank you very much, everybody.
56:29I appreciate it.
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