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The First 48 - Season 28 - Episode 10: Inside the Tape Special #18
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01:26the person shot i roll up get flagged down by the neighbors advising somebody was shot up this way
01:31other units uh start searching for the person shot and it buys it in this house entry found
01:38person shot patrol finds the victim just inside the back door okay he's still in here yes paul's
01:48getting a warrant now okay do we have his id benjamin thompson one three of 88.
01:5828 year old benjamin thompson worked as a carpenter and electrician
02:02and was the dedicated father of three boys and one girl
02:09a guy ran down there said someone was shot a man who says he's friends with the victim
02:15claims he was there at the time of the shooting some kind of all the case he goes on he
02:20ran out
02:20the house of red type neighbors he's in the car we haven't interviewed him yet because we want to
02:25talk to you first at that same time lieutenant's rolling up he sees somebody running from the scene
02:34responding officers also caught a suspicious male leaving the scene we get him detained
02:40pulled a glock out of one leg and a river out of the other way
02:46we got him detained in my car the two men will be taken to headquarters for questioning
02:54have we actually cleared the house we haven't been inside at all yet so
02:58so there's a dog in there animal controls here on same way for us to get the one
03:02and i ain't going to till we get that dog out of here
03:04get that dog out of here so that's what we're waiting for
03:26we got video there's some surveillance footage so we have investigator t coming down to
03:33see if he can look in the dvr do something with that footage
03:37i'm not too sure what we're going to find if it's even recording
03:43all right i'm going to head down to the office now and talk with these guys
03:49i really don't want to draw any conclusions or assumptions right now because it could always
04:12change
04:13that guy he ran to go get help this boy was running from the scene
04:20i'm going to talk to the witness first just get a story and go from there see what he tells
04:26me
04:43the witness says the victim asked him to come along as he made a delivery across town
04:56before i was a ride back out you know how to get down i was training some beds
05:00training a couple beds so i oh my old thing is i need to get out the car and take
05:04a piss
05:05so when i went in that first i went in i just didn't need the bathroom
05:10he's like somebody in the bathroom i go out in the back
05:15he opened me over i went back down this came back in
05:20my time i woke up and uh kind of so quick i hit boom
05:31when he hit me when he hit me i hit a gunshot so i'm laying in my body you got
05:38a shot
05:40i'm trying to look at my eye turn i see him down there dude this thing around the door
05:55the short one how many people was it in the house
06:12okay so the the shooter what does he look like
06:24what do you think was going on from
06:27i believe him for right now until i see this video
06:46the surveillance video from the crime scene comes in
06:59starts about this five minutes before the 911 call
07:07that's my victim right there with the box the guy behind him is the guy that i just talked to
07:22he said he goes to the bathroom
07:25and that dude standing guard at the door he said he was a little dude
07:40yeah so this is why he's saying that he hit him in the head
07:44but see i think he's shooting half you see that jerk yeah take it back out back
07:54right there yeah it looked like it hurt a shot
07:58he's got the gun he's got the gun yeah let's see it yeah okay yeah that's your dude you got
08:03detained right
08:03yeah yeah
08:07he said the taller dude the one that comes with the shorter dreads go ahead and start typing on that
08:12warrant
08:21okay
08:22okay
08:23i'll fire this call
08:24you good
08:27You do an attorney?
08:28Yeah.
08:29OK.
08:30All righty.
08:36He lawyered up, which I knew he was.
08:39He used to be there.
08:41We're going to take his clothes, do a GFR on him,
08:45and go from there.
08:48I'm pretty confident that this is the person.
09:05I was able to track down all the parties that I needed to speak to that were in the surveillance
09:10footage.
09:10They provided me with statements that were very helpful.
09:14And the information that I got in the beginning of this investigation,
09:18that this could have been over a box of sneakers that proved to be incorrect.
09:23This was a drug deal gone bad.
09:27And this was a robbery gone bad.
09:32It's a saying that they say you go to the cemetery and you see a lot of lost hopes and
09:38dreams.
09:39You go to the prisons and you see a lot of hopes and dreams and talent that's wasted away.
10:0217 months after the murder.
10:06What I miss most of my days, being with him.
10:11My mom had five kids and he was the oldest and I was the second oldest.
10:15And he was the man of the house and he protected us.
10:19Every issue I had, he would be there on the spot.
10:22Like he could be anywhere.
10:24One phone call, he's there in a hurry.
10:27My life is completely flipped upside down, you know.
10:30And it's really hard because he was an amazing person.
10:35I love and miss my son.
10:37I love him.
10:38I miss him.
10:40Yeah.
10:58That's my daughter.
11:00She's five.
11:03that's my grandson you have a grandson yes wow how old are you i'm almost 40. oh okay
11:15no kids i haven't been blessed with this job it's hard to keep a man
11:26okay now why in the world have you been sleeping underneath your wife's house
11:36i've been running
11:40i've been over my cousin's house i went to my grown-up miles they didn't want me to be there
11:49they said that it's a harbor or a fugitive or something like that
11:58so i'm going to my mom i done did that so many times
12:06i mean i want my mom out about these drugs walk her out
12:13i tell her mom this will just happen and she said this is not right
12:23okay
12:27what happened
12:53how are you
13:14what's his name
13:15i've been sitting there saying this
13:18okay what time was he pronounced he's not 48 yet but he's serious he got shot in the head
13:2849 year old vincent sanders was born and raised in atlanta
13:33he was a devout member of his local church
13:42see all this up here wow
13:47there's blood all through here
13:53and that's like some brain matter right there oh yeah god that smell yeah it reeks of weed
14:07we got one witness
14:10she said there's a little party for a bunch of the neighborhood people
14:17you want to get her up in the truck and interview her real quick yeah
14:21hi how are you hi how are you i'm detective benton
14:31you were here at the house tonight
14:38just tell me what happened
14:41kato did knock on the door and he started asking the food
14:49he asked him to leave
14:51and he didn't want to leave
14:54who asked him to leave
14:57okay
14:58y'all call him ball head
15:02he was like
15:05okay so vince was escorting kato out the door
15:13okay
15:38i'll be right back
15:48your suspect is going to be kevin darnell pate pate p-a-t-e
15:55you can only get them printed in no that's perfect thank you
16:0041 year old kevin darnell pate has convictions for assault drug possession and theft
16:07apparently this is kato
16:10she's known for 30 years and she should know him by sight
16:13let's see
16:19who is this
16:21kato
16:23the kato that vince escorted out and you immediately heard the shot
16:29do you know how to get in touch with kato
16:32okay thank you so much
16:39grady called he's 48
16:41copy that i'll call get the case number okay
16:43vincent sanders has passed away
16:49okay murder
16:52we need to find kato as soon as possible
17:06he was hiding and sleeping in an abandoned house near where his wife lives
17:14let's get in touch with kato
17:40let's have some fun
17:41The truth of the matter is I'll tell my mom,
17:45I will turn myself in the next day.
17:49But what made you not do it?
17:52I was scared.
17:54No.
17:55OK.
17:58What happened?
18:00I went into the house.
18:02This was a crack house.
18:06I'm being the best dope in all times.
18:09That's a lot of times I'll be old enough.
18:13So this particular day, when I come in the house,
18:17he said, so you got my money yet?
18:19My rest of my money yet?
18:21I said, I got you, dog.
18:22I got you.
18:23He said, I'm sick of your .
18:26He says Vincent, also known as Bald Head,
18:29was working security for the dealer at the house.
18:32Bald Head grabbed me by my home.
18:38He pushed me to come out the door with a gun.
18:43He says the dealer handed Vincent a gun.
18:47He grabbed the gun.
18:49It's getting real.
18:51It's getting like a Tulsa thing.
18:53And I see it.
18:54It falling down to the ground.
18:56I picked it up.
18:58It had him and I already caught.
19:00So as soon as I grabbed it, pow!
19:03My shoe, he fell back.
19:08But when he fell, I said, damn, I broke it.
19:15Now how many times have they kicked you out
19:17and produced a handgun at the same time?
19:21Plenty of time.
19:22But they've never shot you before?
19:25Bald Head, no.
19:27OK.
19:29Now when this incident happened, were you high?
19:33Yes, I was high.
19:35I was on heroin at that time.
19:40I should have turned myself in.
19:43Did you not turn yourself in because once you turned yourself in,
19:48the drugs are gone?
19:51No.
19:54That's the truth, right?
19:58That you didn't want to miss the drugs?
20:01Because I want to get high.
20:11Well, everybody knows where there's drugs and guns,
20:14there's going to be violence.
20:15You know, but when people keep going back to these houses
20:19and they'll do anything to get their next high,
20:22this is how you may end up.
20:27I'll be right back.
20:27I don't know.
20:30I'll be right back.
20:31I will.
20:46This is how I must move on.
20:47That's how I stay the most of your people.
20:47This is how I stay the most of my people.
20:47I need to get sick here, but I'm gonna get sick.
20:47I need to get sick.
20:48I'm going to get sick.
20:52I'm ready to go.
21:00When that young man took Vincent's life, he destroyed something valuable.
21:09My son's life had purpose.
21:13This house here, I would love to see it turn into something positive, like a house of restoration
21:21to restore all these people that it has destroyed.
21:49There's a guy walking right there, has got to be the victim.
21:55Damn, we had a closer camera.
21:57My victim came to this country looking for work, and then this happens to him.
22:02Well, there's someone following him right there.
22:04You see that?
22:07It's cranky.
22:09Yeah.
22:33At 4.26 AM, the lady called in and said that she heard the shots.
22:38And other than that, what you see is what you got.
22:40All right.
22:41Let's see what we got, man.
22:55Man, he's been shot multiple times.
22:56Looks like he has a chest wound.
23:01Multiple to the head.
23:03And then he got him really good and drilled this poor guy, man.
23:09Fingerprints identify the victim as 42-year-old Armando Salgado, known as Paisa.
23:17He moved to the United States eight years ago from Honduras and worked in a tire repair shop to support
23:23family living back home.
23:27You have a casing here, here, here.
23:31They're all over the place.
23:33Armando has been shot six times.
23:36He's trying to fight the guys off.
23:38They're moving around, like, circling a guy.
23:42Left pockets turned inside out, which is usually indicative of a robbery.
23:46He had to go through his pocket, I'm hoping.
23:50Wilson been for DNA.
23:53Where he's a Hispanic victim, a lot of times they're targeted because people know they don't have bank accounts here.
23:58Some people are here illegally.
24:00So half the time, they wouldn't report it because they're afraid they'd be reported.
24:03I feel bad for this guy.
24:05He looks like a regular guy just walking down the street and he gets dragged off by a guy.
24:10by somebody or lured back here and murdered, man.
24:14Probably for not much money either.
24:16It's sad, man.
24:19Someone just wonders where this guy is.
24:32With little to go on, detectives head to an address associated with Armando, hoping to find someone who knew him.
24:43Hey, how are you?
24:44Hi.
24:44Did you know Armando?
24:46Yes.
24:47All right.
24:50Y'all have been calling hospitals, police stations?
24:54Mm-hmm.
24:54When's the last time anyone here saw a Pisces?
25:02Where?
25:05In Casa Honduras.
25:06In Casa Honduras.
25:07After work, Armando went to hear music at a Honduran restaurant.
25:12The concert ended around 3 a.m.
25:15And the last time they saw him was at 1 a.m.
25:18Okay.
25:19How would he get home?
25:21He usually walks everywhere.
25:24All right.
25:25Does he usually carry a wallet, identification on his person usually?
25:29Any kind of...
25:30His friends say he was carrying his passport and cash.
25:37All right.
25:40Sunday morning, we received the call of a male subject down on Crowder Boulevard.
25:48And when the police got there, they found him and he was shot to death.
25:52We're actually in the Homicide Division and we're investigating his death right now.
25:57Oh, wow.
25:58Yeah.
26:00So it is him?
26:01It's him.
26:02Yeah.
26:02Um...
26:12It's...
26:23The one?
26:25The dude?
26:46Armando has no family in the U.S.
27:10With no leads, detectives head to a store across from the crime scene to look for surveillance video.
27:31A few hours before the 911 call, Barrere spots someone walking near the crime scene.
27:38He's walking.
27:40He's got to be the victim.
27:42Damn, I just had a closer camera.
27:45There's someone following him right there.
27:47You see that?
27:50Oh, man.
27:53It looks like they might have grabbed him and dragged him back there.
27:57Maybe they were sitting there watching.
27:59Yeah, it's a definite setup, man.
28:00They grabbed him, dude.
28:02Man, that's...
28:03That's horrible, huh?
28:05I waited for that dude.
28:06Right.
28:07It's crazy.
28:14Three weeks later...
28:17Rob, you over here?
28:18Yeah, man.
28:21I got your murder weapon.
28:23How?
28:34The 4th District picked up a guy I was looking for.
28:37And he had two guns on him, a 9 and a 38.
28:40They've been doing testing on my stuff.
28:42They got a hit back that that's your murder weapon.
28:47You always want to find the weapon.
28:48And now we have this gun out of nowhere.
28:51The gun falls in our lap.
28:55I really want to have him come clean and tell me how he got this murder weapon.
29:00My name is Rob Barrera.
29:02You're not a suspect right now for my case, but let me talk to you.
29:06You're here because you were recently arrested on the West Bank.
29:10Yes, sir.
29:11And stopped with two firearms.
29:15I'll be hustling.
29:16Don't get wrapped up in this murder .
29:18But I need to know how the gun came in for real.
29:20I bought it, man.
29:21Water from the middle.
29:23I don't know the man, I promise.
29:27Why'd they call you ?
29:29Jay-Z or something?
29:31Jay-Z?
29:32What's your favorite Jay-Z album on topic?
29:35The black album.
29:37The black album?
29:38Nine Nine Problem?
29:39That was on an album, right?
29:42Blueprints?
29:43Yeah, Blueprints.
29:44Blueprints.
29:44Three of my favorite.
29:45One, two, three.
29:49Okay, let's be straight, man.
29:52Did you give me a name or a nickname?
29:58All right, look.
30:00See my partner?
30:01Mm-hmm.
30:03Tell me about it.
30:04Tell me about it.
30:05He gives him a rare the name of the man who gave him the gun.
30:09How do you have the gun?
30:11Glad he showed me the gun.
30:12Showed you the gun?
30:14Okay.
30:16Give me one second.
30:16I'm gonna try to research some of this real quick.
30:23His partner is currently in jail on unrelated charges.
30:27This is good, man.
30:28I'm getting somewhere.
30:30I got some good information from our friend.
30:32I'm surprised he'd open up like this.
30:34You know, try to build the trust factor up.
30:36And then he just eases into the truth.
30:39Barrera will have the DNA found on the victim,
30:41compared to DNA taken from the man in jail.
30:44I'm hoping that we get some kind of hit.
30:55Hello?
30:59Inconclusive.
31:00Thanks.
31:02High five.
31:05So that was Baton Rouge, the crime lab.
31:07They finished with the DNA analysis,
31:10and it's still inconclusive.
31:12We can't say he did the murder.
31:14I mean, we all know that in New Orleans,
31:17guns get passed around like candy,
31:19especially after crimes are committed with him.
31:21So him having that gun doesn't mean anything.
31:25So we're back at square one.
31:27We have nothing right now.
31:32I keep thinking back to his family in Honduras.
31:35I can't imagine how hard it must be.
31:36They get the news that he's murdered in New Orleans,
31:39and have language barrier,
31:42and they're just left wondering,
31:44why did this happen to our loved one?
31:47And now they're counting on me to solve this case,
31:49and they just want answers.
31:51I want to give it to them.
31:58They can't.
32:08I'm not friends.
32:11I'm not friends.
32:13Come on, I have to.
32:13I can't remember.
32:14Since I was dead,
32:15I had a dream.
32:15I used a dream.
32:16I had all at work.
32:16I took my home.
32:17I took my home.
32:20It was a dream.
32:21I was a dream.
32:21I was a dream.
32:21I was a dream.
32:22This is my dream.
32:30I think my neighbor is in his truck and he just got shot.
32:35He's in the pickup truck in his driveway.
32:39Oh, my God.
32:41I see some shots in the glass.
32:44I think he's dead.
32:47Oh, God.
32:58I was about to settle down in the bed.
33:00We had just worked our shift.
33:03I was laying down.
33:04Next thing I know, I got the call.
33:20You called, too?
33:25Twenty-nine-year-old Antavius Kurtz, known as Tay, was the youngest of four children.
33:31He still lived at home with his parents.
33:42Got your green shell, Taylor.
33:46Now, the one exit out over there into the house.
33:57He's not at a close spot to me.
33:59I don't see no kind of soot or either gunshot powder.
34:02I ain't don't see no prints nowhere on the glass or in a vehicle.
34:10Apparently, he must have stopped at McDonald's on the way home.
34:13He's sitting there eating a sandwich.
34:15You're sitting there chilling.
34:17You're sitting there chilling.
34:20He had his cell phone on him.
34:21He had his wallet on him.
34:25If he don't try to rob him, he don't take nothing.
34:27You don't ask for him, his window is up.
34:31Maybe he's messing around with some of his girl or something.
34:40The red Cadillac on the other side of the van is his father.
34:43Okay.
34:58I just saw my brother this past Sunday.
35:00Everything was cool.
35:01Spoke, laugh, talk about the Super Bowl.
35:05You're just getting out from work.
35:07Tay worked as a night supervisor at a nearby warehouse.
35:14All right, what we know so far, man, is that he came home from work,
35:17pulled up in the driveway.
35:20The person shot him three times.
35:23This shot through, man.
35:27I don't remember the video like that.
35:28Watch the way.
35:29I've never been in trouble, man.
35:32You .
35:45You feel for it when your heart goes out.
35:47I can only imagine if I lose one of my sons.
35:50I'd be a total match.
35:56Right now, we have no witnesses, no suspects.
36:00Maybe he had a confrontation somewhere.
36:02All I know, all I know, turn over every rock and he can be turned over.
36:17But it's rolled up on him from the back.
36:20Just popped it in.
36:23Sound like it's personal.
36:25Is that what I'm thinking?
36:51Detective Smith finds a text from one of Tay's co-workers.
36:56I did not give fire.
36:58I resigned because they want us to tell on people.
37:01And I cannot tell about something that I don't know.
37:04So I resigned.
37:08Apparently, there's a cat that he works with.
37:10They made him resign.
37:12Some kind of investigation going on.
37:15And they say, we are not firing you.
37:19We are just investigating.
37:21The co-worker says he quit when his other friend was forced to resign.
37:27So, I went ahead and resigned also.
37:34Tay responded.
37:36As much as I had your back, you really thought that I snitched on you?
37:42Damn, homie.
37:44Apparently, this guy seemed to think my victim might have snitched on him and got him fired.
38:02Have he talked to you about what's going on at work?
38:05You know that this day at weekend work, they had fired a lot of people that worked with him for
38:10stealing.
38:12The victim's girlfriend confirms Tay had been blamed after some of the warehouse employees were accused of robbery.
38:19He's like, they said that I wouldn't have married, actually.
38:32Detective Smith gets a hold of one of the warehouse employees.
38:37Oh, he's doing anything, but I don't.
38:41Let me say this, though.
38:43For me to hear somebody say what they're doing, somebody's across their paths,
38:50that kind of raised a thought in my mind.
38:54Maybe somebody need to check and see if this was individual.
38:57He says one of the men forced to resign had allegedly threatened other employees in the past.
39:03What did he say that he would do?
39:07If he was going to shoot somebody, he would do this, he would do that.
39:11If somebody closes him.
39:15Appreciate it.
39:16Thanks for your attention.
39:17Thanks.
39:19Wow.
39:27Apparently, he had a dismissed murder charge.
39:30He served time for drug charges.
39:34He put this threat out.
39:35Said if anyone crossed, if they hear, kill him or hurt him.
39:39If you say it so often enough, people take notice of it.
39:42It's a strong possibility that it could be carried out without a doubt.
39:46A viable candidate at this point.
39:49What I need is to build our case up.
39:56If you get some information, please contact me.
40:00Detective Smith.
40:01I'm here looking for help from any angle.
40:03You never know anyone that makes any kind of threats against Tay.
40:06I have never heard nobody literally say, I'm at Tay's office.
40:10I'm going to do this murder.
40:15Finally, after seven months, Smith gets a break.
40:19We're going to the U.S. District Attorney's Office
40:22to interview this inmate in the federal penitentiary.
40:25A man arrested in another case
40:27wants to give information on Tay's murder
40:29in exchange for a lesser sentence.
40:33It can be very, very hurtful.
40:38I'm open, man. I don't pay to close this thing.
40:59There we go.
41:01Went pretty good, man.
41:04I just got pretty much...
41:06The suspect told me that he did it.
41:09Words out of his own mouth.
41:11So he was aware of the theft problem
41:14and that the threats were there against Tay's?
41:17That snitching was the reason for getting shot.
41:21See if we can get somebody to confirm the story.
41:25But it's promising.
41:27Smith still needs corroboration
41:29in order to charge the co-worker with murder.
41:37We'll get rid of you.
41:39Crime stopper piece regarding information on this case.
41:44If somebody knows something, man,
41:46if somebody knows something,
41:53if someone knows something,
41:54they can know some of the reasons.entapping
41:54was a wonderful child. And he
41:58always was the type of person who always
41:59wanted to make a difference the world. Two weeks
42:03prior to him being murdered, he noted
42:06his pickup went downtown
42:07and on us. Out of
42:10his own properties.
42:12Whoever did it, come forward, so we can know why it happened.
42:19Whoever knows, come forward.
42:43To be continued...
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