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Jimmy Kimmel Live - Season 24 - Episode 104: Ringo Starr, Kal Penn, Bleachers
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00:00From Hollywood, it's Jimmy Kimmel Live!
00:04Tonight, Ringo Starr, Cal Penn,
00:08and music from Bleacherous with the Klee Tones!
00:13And now, Jimmy Kimmel Live!
00:34Thank you for joining us here from our home-slash-maril-anagist section here in Hollywood.
00:50That's very nice.
00:52I'm glad you're here on the highest of all holidays.
00:56It is April 20th for 2019.
01:00If you don't know the history, according to the legend,
01:03St. Snoop the dog drove the snakes out of Compton on 420-1878 or something like that.
01:10How are you feeling tonight, Guillermo?
01:12I'm feeling good, Jimmy.
01:13Are you celebrating?
01:14Yeah, later on when I get home.
01:16Later on you're going to celebrate.
01:17Yeah, yeah.
01:18Will you celebrate alone or with friends?
01:21No, I will celebrate with my wife.
01:22You will celebrate with your wife?
01:24Yeah.
01:24How nice.
01:25You know, I went to Las Vegas with my wife this weekend,
01:27and we almost didn't get there.
01:29Our flight was delayed and then delayed and then delayed,
01:32and there was no explanation why until we finally got on the ground and we got off the ground.
01:38We landed.
01:38We found out they closed the airspace because guess who decided to fly out of Las Vegas on Friday afternoon
01:45when everyone's trying to fly in?
01:47That's right.
01:48Scammy Davis Jr. was in Vegas to take credit for no tax on tips and to drop this relatable little
01:55gem.
01:56The Great Big Beautiful bill also slashed taxes on millions of American small businesses, including restaurants, strike cleaners, corner stores.
02:05What is a corner store?
02:06I've never heard that term.
02:07I know what a corner store is, but I've never heard it described.
02:10A corner store.
02:11Who the hell wrote that, please?
02:14Yeah, who the hell wrote that?
02:16I mean, of all the crazy things that have come out of his mouth, this is the one he scolds
02:20them for?
02:21And by the way, the man grew up in Queens.
02:23He's never heard of a corner store?
02:26Where did he think his servants were going to get his Twinkies every day?
02:31If you're watching, Mr. President, a corner store is a place where people who aren't billionaires go to buy the
02:37tequila
02:38that helps us forget you're running the country every day.
02:45Fiboracci is back in Washington now.
02:47We are on week eight of Trump's little excursion into the Middle East.
02:51On Friday, he announced that Iran agreed to everything and that the oil was flowing once again.
02:58This will be a great and brilliant day for the world.
03:05Because Iran has just announced that the Strait of Hormuz is fully open and ready for business and full passage.
03:16Okay, that was Friday.
03:17Then on Saturday, Iran contradicted that moment of triumph, saying the Strait was not open for business.
03:24It was closed for business.
03:25And that they had in no way agreed to hand over their uranium or any of this stuff.
03:31The statement was false, which this is all very, especially for those of us who grew up in the 80s.
03:35Did you ever imagine you would be more likely to believe the Ayatollah than the President of the United States?
03:42Or that we would be hearing the words Strait of Hormuz 12 times a day?
03:50Our whole lives, the Strait of Hormuz has been so wide open, we didn't even know it existed.
03:55We put Trump in charge, and in eight weeks, it's been blocked more times than Melania's bedroom door.
04:03And still, with all of this happening, Trump says the war in Iran is going along swimmingly.
04:11Yeah, they're swimming because no one could move their boats anymore.
04:16And because things are going so swimmingly, yesterday, Trump posted,
04:20Iran decided to fire bullets yesterday in the Strait of Hormuz, a total violation of our ceasefire agreement.
04:25Many of them were aimed at a French ship and a freighter from the United Kingdom.
04:29That wasn't nice, was it?
04:31I don't know.
04:32I don't know which bothers me more, the fact that this unnecessary war is still dragging on,
04:36or that our President talks to us like we're in pre-K.
04:39But we are offering a very fair and reasonable deal, and I hope they take it,
04:44because if they don't, the U.S. is going to knock out every single power plant
04:48and every single bridge in Iran.
04:50No more Mr. Nice Guy.
04:52That was Mr. Nice Guy before.
04:54That's all right.
04:54Goodbye, Mr. Nice Guy.
04:56Hello, senor senile psychopath.
05:00Three days ago.
05:03Three days ago, he announced, he made a big announcement
05:06he said, Iran agreed to everything, the Strait is open, gas prices are coming down,
05:12today the Strait's closed, he's back to threatening annihilation,
05:15and the price of gas is as high as half of our audience here right now.
05:23All right, so there are two big stories this weekend.
05:26The Wall Street Journal ran quite a story this weekend that said Trump was so worked up
05:32about the two downed pilots who were rescued, and the possibility that it could hurt him politically
05:38if they were taken hostage.
05:40His aides had to keep him out of the room while they were getting updates on the situation.
05:45At one point, they handed him an iPad and said, sit down, be quiet, make some pictures of the U
05:49.S. Jesus.
05:51The same story says Trump also floated the idea of giving himself the Congressional Medal of Honor,
05:56which is the highest of all the military honors.
06:00Can you imagine if Trump gave himself the, I mean, of course you can imagine it, yes.
06:07He accepted the Nobel Prize as a gift, but what if he doesn't?
06:10What if he puts that around his own neck?
06:12Would that be enough for these zombies who still worship him to wake up?
06:16Can a person even, just fundamentally, can a person give himself an award?
06:21I think it's impossible.
06:22It's like trying to give yourself a reach around.
06:25You know, you can't, you can't do it.
06:29According to those who are there, Trump believes he deserves the Medal of Honor
06:32because his plane flew into Iraq on an unlit runway during a first-term trip to visit troops.
06:38Well, if that's all it takes, anyone who ever flew into Newark deserves the Medal of Honor.
06:45The, um, this is not gonna help Trump's poll numbers, which are now down to 37% approval.
06:52He is currently on the outs with some of his, his formerly biggest fans,
06:57Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Alex Jones, Candace Owens are all mad at his majesty.
07:02And Joe Rogan said a bunch of things.
07:04He said Trump was insane for starting the war.
07:06He's mocked him for the Epstein files.
07:08He mocked him for his bogus Jesus excuse, his vile comments about Rob Reiner.
07:13And that is a problem for Donald Trump because a lot of people listen closely to what Joe Rogan has
07:18to say.
07:18So what does Trump do?
07:20Anything Joe Rogan wants him to do.
07:22So Joe Rogan sends Trump information about a promising psychedelic drug he knows about.
07:28And Trump rubber stamps this like it's a parking validation.
07:32I sent him that information.
07:34The text message came back.
07:36Sounds great.
07:37Do you want FDA approval?
07:39Let's do it.
07:39It was literally that quick.
07:42Is it supposed to be that quick?
07:46Weren't you guys all freaking out when the FDA released the COVID vaccine that quick?
07:50Joe, while you're at it, could you ask him to release the rest of the Trump Epstein files that quick?
07:56Because you might be the only one to listen to.
07:59So Joe Rogan is back in the next fold, I guess, whereas others are out.
08:04Yet another high-profile woman is leaving Trump's cabinet.
08:08First it was Kristi Noem, then Pam Bondi.
08:10Today, Lori Chavez de Reimer resigned from her post as Secretary of Labor.
08:16She doesn't get a lot of attention, but she was reportedly facing a misconduct investigation for allegations of drinking on
08:22the job and having an affair with one of her bodyguards.
08:25She decided to step down today when all the headlines are about our soon-to-be former FBI director, Kash
08:30Patel.
08:31Now, The Atlantic published a doozy of a story about him over the weekend.
08:35They said Kash Patel was so worried about getting the axe, when he had an issue logging onto his computer
08:40ten days ago, he thought he'd been locked out and panicked.
08:44He started frantically calling aides to announce that he'd been fired, according to nine people familiar with this outreach.
08:52He called nine people to tell him he'd been fired.
08:55Turned out it was just an IT issue.
08:59Oops.
09:00Patel is reportedly deeply concerned that he's about to get fired, which, why, I don't know.
09:05Does this look like a paranoid guy to you?
09:08But the story says he has become known for bouts of excessive drinking and unexplained absences, so much so that
09:18on multiple occasions in the past year, members of his security detail had difficulty waking him because he was seemingly
09:25intoxicated.
09:26They requested breaching equipment.
09:29This is the equipment normally used by SWAT and hostage rescue teams to get entry into buildings.
09:34They made those requests last year because Patel was unreachable behind locked doors.
09:39You know you have a problem when SEAL Team 6 shows up to do a wellness check.
09:44I mean, there's drunk and there's go-get-a-battering-ram drunk.
09:50Man, oh, man.
09:51We all thought Pete Hegseth was the Trump poster boy for drinking too much.
09:56All of a sudden, Kash is like, hold my beer and my martini while you're at it.
10:01Patel has vehemently denied the allegations.
10:03Today, he pulled the Trump and filed a $250 million defamation suit against the Atlantic for the story.
10:09Which do you think will last longer?
10:11Kash Patel as head of the FBI or the bananas I bought at Trader Joe's yesterday?
10:18Speaking of intoxicating substances, this is a big night for us because 10 years ago tonight, we debuted a game
10:25called Who's High?
10:26In which I speak to people on Hollywood Boulevard and try to guess which of them is high.
10:31But now that cannabis is legal and it's really almost impossible to find anyone who's not high on 420 on
10:37Hollywood Boulevard.
10:38So tonight, we're going to switch it up a little bit and play Who's Not High?
10:42All right?
10:43Now, our natural news out on the boulevard with three pedestrians.
10:49Quick change, Lou. You really got into that quickly, huh?
10:52Hey, on a special holiday like this, you've got to.
10:55You've got to. Now, Lou, are you high right now?
10:57Not yet.
10:58Okay.
10:59For the benefit of all, including our contestants, explain how we play the game, Lou.
11:03Yeah, so I spent the day looking all over Hollywood Boulevard for people under the influence of marijuana.
11:09Of these three here, two are high and you have to guess which one is not.
11:13Okay.
11:14So we got Jerry, Ali, and Wyatt there.
11:18And the key, Lou, is you're trying to trick me up, right?
11:23I know you're quite good at this, so, you know, we try to make it hard for you, Jimmy.
11:27We're going to start with Jerry. Jerry, what do you do for a living, Jerry?
11:31I'm a musician.
11:32Okay. That's a strike against you just to start.
11:35What kind of music do you play, Jerry?
11:37Uh, not Huey Lewis and the News.
11:39No. Okay. All right. Well, maybe you'll work up to that.
11:43That's true.
11:44Jerry, uh, no, what kind of music do you play, Jerry?
11:46I play rock music, playing metal bands.
11:48You're a heavy metal guy.
11:49Heavy metal all the way.
11:51What instrument do you play?
11:52I'm just a bass player, Jimmy.
11:54Bass player. All right. I think bass players show humility. Would you agree with that?
11:58Sometimes.
11:59Okay. All right. Um, what's the last thing you ate, Jerry?
12:03Hmm. Sushi.
12:05Okay. All right. What time was that?
12:09Maybe an hour ago.
12:11Okay. His hesitation leads me to believe that perhaps he is high.
12:15Okay. Let's speak to Allie. Allie, where are you from, Allie?
12:18I'm originally from Maryland.
12:20You're from Maryland? What do you do for work, Allie?
12:22I'm a professional organizer, so I go into homes and make your stuff look good.
12:26Now, you seem not at all high.
12:29And you look like you just came from an Easter party.
12:34But that makes me think that maybe they're trying to trick me because you do seem super wholesome.
12:42Okay. Can we zoom into Allie's eyes?
12:45And, uh...
12:46All right. Okay.
12:48All right.
12:49And finally, we have Wyatt. Hi, Wyatt.
12:52Hi.
12:53Now, Wyatt...
12:55Where are you from, Wyatt?
12:56I'm from Rochester, New York.
12:57And what do you do for work, Wyatt?
12:59I'm a computer scientist. I'm self-employed.
13:01Oh, you're a scientist?
13:02Computer scientist.
13:04Computer scientist. Okay.
13:05You know, if somebody calls you a scientist, just go with that.
13:09Okay.
13:10Now, Wyatt...
13:11Hi, how are you?
13:12Hi.
13:13No, I...
13:14No, okay.
13:14Well, that's a clue, too, right?
13:19All right.
13:20Okay.
13:21Now, my gut is telling me...
13:24My gut is telling me that Jerry's the guy that's not high because he seems like he'd be the most
13:30likely to be high.
13:31But also, Jerry's eyes look really dilated to me.
13:35And Allie doesn't seem like she'd be high at all, which makes me think that, yeah, she's the one that
13:39they picked.
13:40And then we got Wyatt, who looks for sure looks like he's high.
13:44Maybe I'm just messing with you.
13:45But it makes me think, okay, go into Wyatt's eyes, would you mind?
13:50Yeah.
13:51Yeah.
13:53Let me have one last look at Jerry, also, if you don't mind.
13:56Jerry, let's get real tight on you.
14:00Okay.
14:01All right.
14:03All right.
14:03Yeah, okay.
14:04All right.
14:05I'm gonna...
14:06All right.
14:07I'm gonna go with my gut.
14:08I'm gonna say Jerry is not high.
14:10Jerry, are you high?
14:11I am not high.
14:13Yes!
14:18All right.
14:21All right.
14:22Well, we've got prizes for all of you to celebrate.
14:25We have four new pot-themed mini-documentaries on Hulu called 4x20, including a documentary about Harold and Kumar.
14:33And we have our own White Castle vending machine out on the boulevard to serve you piping hot burgers.
14:40Right, Guillermo?
14:41That's right, Jimmy.
14:41Show me how it works, Guillermo.
14:42Hit it.
14:43Hit the button or whatever.
14:44Stop the screen right here.
14:45Yeah.
14:46And you will get three wonderful cheeseburgers right here.
14:48You will get three wonderful cheeseburgers.
14:50Yes.
14:51And there you go.
14:52Three wonderful cheeseburgers for our contestant.
14:55Give them to our contestants, please, Guillermo.
14:56Yeah, there we go.
14:57One.
14:58Thank you, Jerry.
14:59Thank you, Ally.
15:00And thank you, Wyatt.
15:01Thank you for playing...
15:02And one for me.
15:03Who's not high?
15:08All right.
15:09We have a great show tonight.
15:11Kyle Penn is here.
15:11We have music from Bleachers.
15:13And we'll be back with the one, the only, Ringo Starr.
15:16And we'll be back for it.
15:25Hi, there.
15:26Welcome back.
15:27Tonight, an interesting gentleman you can see most lately in the new weed-themed mini-docuseries
15:32on Hulu.
15:33It's called 420 Quick Hits.
15:35Kyle Penn is with us tonight.
15:37And then later...
15:39They are from New Jersey.
15:40Their new album, Everyone for 10 Minutes, comes out May 22nd.
15:44music from Bleachers tonight.
15:46We have new shows with Ray Romano, Adam Scott,
15:51Jon Favreau, Tracy Morgan will be here,
15:53Governor Tim Walz will be here,
15:55and James Taylor is here with us tomorrow night, too.
15:58So please join us for all that.
16:00While we're on the subject of music legends,
16:03our first guest goes by one name or two.
16:06It doesn't matter.
16:06He's the most famous drummer the world has ever known.
16:09He has a new album.
16:10It is produced by T-Bone Burnett.
16:12It's called, oh, it's backwards.
16:14It's called Long, Long Road.
16:16It comes out Friday.
16:17Please welcome Ringo Starr.
16:55Hey, you really are Ringo Starr.
16:57I mean, you don't disappoint.
16:58You come out, everybody goes nuts,
16:59you give them a little energy,
17:01and it's exciting to see you.
17:02It really is.
17:03Really?
17:03Yeah.
17:06You don't celebrate 420.
17:08That's not, uh...
17:09Not anymore.
17:10No, no, no.
17:11You don't smoke it no more?
17:13I don't smoke it no more.
17:14That's right, right.
17:15Do you ever miss it?
17:16Do you miss being part of the festivities?
17:18I feel more part of the world.
17:21You do.
17:21Yeah.
17:22Yeah, that's nice.
17:23It's that little space where it's all so beautiful.
17:27I saw you out in the wild at your friend Paul's concert,
17:31Paul McCartney's concert, a couple of weeks ago.
17:33Wasn't that great?
17:34It was fantastic.
17:36He played at theater.
17:38You know, for him, he's used to bigger places.
17:41Right.
17:42The band was great.
17:43He was great.
17:44All the seats were taken from the front,
17:47so they stood.
17:48The atmosphere.
17:49I loved it.
17:50You know, I love that you loved it.
17:52I think he's tired of me telling him since we did that.
17:54Is he?
17:55Oh, man, I just love that.
17:57I saw you.
17:58It made me feel so good to know that you were there
18:01and, like, supporting your friend in an enthusiastic way.
18:04Not just like, eh, he wants me to come, I'm going to come.
18:07Yeah, no, I'm going to come because I want to see him.
18:09Do you...
18:10When you're watching him, when you're in the audience
18:12watching Paul, or anyone, really, but especially watching Paul,
18:15do you feel like you're going to go, like,
18:17I'd like to get on stage, or are you happier watching him?
18:20No, no, what happens, I've got on stage with him
18:23four or five times.
18:25Right.
18:27And it's great to play with him.
18:29You know, it's still great for me to play with Paul.
18:33Yeah, I love that.
18:34That's fantastic.
18:35Now, you guys have a duet coming out
18:39on his album that is coming out next month, right?
18:43That's exciting.
18:45Were you jealous?
18:45That's the first time you've done a duet together, right?
18:47Yes, but it's...
18:48Where it came from is so crazy,
18:50because the producer of that record
18:52lives just down the block.
18:54And I went down, and there was a kit in his studio,
18:58and he played guitar, and we jammed.
19:00And then I thought, I started making a record,
19:04and I said, Andrew, send me that, you know,
19:07that bit we did of the jamming.
19:10And he never did.
19:14But anyway, underneath the duo that Paul and I do,
19:20the song...
19:21Yeah.
19:21It started with my drums
19:24from that day, two years ago.
19:27Oh, two years ago.
19:28And then Paul got the song
19:30and put everything else on it.
19:32So it was like it was in reverse.
19:35The drums were off first.
19:36Oh.
19:37Oh, yeah, that is interesting.
19:39And then you laid the vocals in?
19:40But it's really great, and it's very...
19:42It's amusing, and it's very real,
19:44because that's where we come from.
19:45Oh, good.
19:46There's some fun in there, too.
19:47Yeah, yeah.
19:47Were you jealous when Paul asked Stevie Wonder
19:50to sing Ebony and Ivory with him instead of you?
19:52I was for a minute.
19:55You...
19:57You, uh, you guys FaceTime regularly.
20:00I've read this.
20:01I assume that's true.
20:02You talk about old stuff or new stuff or...
20:05We talk about now.
20:06We talk about our kids,
20:07and we talk about our life,
20:08and we talk about this, that, and the other.
20:10What do you talk about?
20:11Hello, darling.
20:13Nothing's happening.
20:15You guys were roommates
20:16when the Beatles were touring.
20:18You'd stay...
20:18Well, we were always...
20:21Four of us in two rooms.
20:22Mm-hmm.
20:23So I was roommates with everybody,
20:25and they were...
20:26You know, Paul was roommates with everybody.
20:28Depends where they put the suitcases.
20:30We just went...
20:31We just went...
20:32You just followed the suitcases?
20:34Yeah.
20:35That's crazy.
20:37Yeah.
20:37But I assume you reached a point in your fame
20:40where you were no longer rooming together,
20:42or did you continue to room together?
20:45Right up to the last day of the last tour,
20:48or the last night of the last tour,
20:50we shared.
20:52Wow.
20:53Yeah.
20:53When you visit each other...
20:56That's really true.
20:58When you visit each other at your homes,
21:01do you get into bed together?
21:02No.
21:03No, not anymore.
21:07Who would be the man...
21:08Outside of maybe your family,
21:09the man that you've slept with the most?
21:11Would that be Paul?
21:12Well, actually, I'd like to tell you
21:14I slept with the three of them.
21:16You slept with all three of them?
21:20You know, Sam Mendes,
21:21the director, as you know,
21:23is making movies about each of you,
21:25about each of the Beatles,
21:27and then...
21:27I don't know.
21:28Are they going to release them all at once?
21:29They say that.
21:30They say they're going to release them all at once.
21:32Were you a part of that?
21:34I was a part of it on my script.
21:36And I went over to England last year,
21:40and we spent two days together.
21:44And there was a few things I didn't like.
21:47Uh-huh, that you didn't feel were...
21:48And Sam was great.
21:50I don't like that.
21:51Okay.
21:51He just threw it away.
21:52Yeah.
21:53Barry Keoghan is playing you.
21:55Barry's playing me, yeah.
21:56Is he somebody...
21:57Were you familiar with his work before this?
21:59I was...
21:59Yeah, I'd seen him in the movies,
22:01but he came to my house last year.
22:05He was here and he told us that he went to study you.
22:08Yeah, and it was really weird in a way,
22:11because, you know,
22:12Hey, how you doing, man?
22:14And he's like...
22:18I just made that up.
22:21Did you give him any pointers on how to be you?
22:24No, I just...
22:25As long as I'm being me,
22:27he's getting everything he needs.
22:28Did he ask for any pointers on how to be you?
22:31He just came over and we had a chat and hung out
22:34and said this, that, and the other,
22:36and then see you later.
22:39Yeah, I mean, that's...
22:40Yeah, that's got to be just a strange thing, though.
22:42This guy's going to play you.
22:43I think he's...
22:44I imagine he's going to do a good job playing.
22:46I think so.
22:47If you didn't like him...
22:49You know the thing I had to really do?
22:51What?
22:52Because it's a script.
22:54I was, like, looking at it as a documentary.
23:00And once I finally said,
23:02it's not a documentary, it's a film,
23:04I could relax.
23:05Gotcha, yeah.
23:06You know?
23:06A lot of it's going to be fictionalized,
23:08and that's all there is to it.
23:09Yeah.
23:09Yeah.
23:09Well, you know, I'll have my film,
23:12and I'm sure the other three will visit me.
23:15John will have his film,
23:16and I'm sure we'll visit him.
23:18Yeah.
23:18So it's like, you know,
23:20only Sam could figure this out.
23:23I...
23:23When I was a disc jockey,
23:25when I was a kid,
23:25I was, like, 20 years old,
23:27I was working at a radio station in Seattle,
23:29and I hosted Breakfast with the Beatles
23:30on Sunday mornings.
23:32Oh.
23:32But at the time,
23:33I knew all your music.
23:34I didn't really know anything about the Beatles.
23:37Yeah.
23:37So I would just make it up.
23:41And people would get very, very angry
23:43calling me to the radio station.
23:45Yeah.
23:45And luckily, it was Sunday,
23:46so the receptionist didn't get the phone calls.
23:49I took them myself
23:50and promised to report myself to the manager.
23:54But I just wish one of those angry callers
23:58could see me right now talking to the radio station.
24:02This is Ringo's new album.
24:04Long, long road.
24:05It comes out Friday.
24:17Ringo Starr is with us.
24:19This is his 22nd solo album.
24:23Long, long road.
24:25And very few nights do country music.
24:29It's really rare.
24:29Well, I love country music,
24:31and I did do a country music album.
24:34A couple of them before, right?
24:3672, just one.
24:37Just one.
24:38Okay, all right.
24:3972, and with Pete Drake, who was great.
24:41Have you ever owned a pickup truck?
24:44No.
24:45We should get you one for sure.
24:47I want to ask you about something,
24:48because this is, uh, this is interesting.
24:51So you're wearing this, this purple shirt.
24:53Yeah.
24:54And then if you were to open this up,
24:56you see this.
24:59Is this the same shirt,
25:01or is it a replica?
25:03No, it's the very same shirt,
25:05and that shirt is older than most of your audience.
25:11Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:13Now, I have one more question about the shirt,
25:17because we were looking at the Get Back documentary,
25:21and George appears to be wearing the very same shirt.
25:26Well, I stole it.
25:28You did?
25:30No, I had my shirt, he had his shirt.
25:33Did you have this?
25:34You know, we shared a lot of stuff,
25:36but hey, you have it now.
25:38Wow, that's unbelievable.
25:40I've got another picture here.
25:41This is from your,
25:42you had a listening party here in L.A.
25:44There's you, Sean Penn, Jeff Bridges,
25:47John Mellencamp, and T-Bone Burnett.
25:49Yeah.
25:50That's a, that's a pretty solid group right there.
25:53Yeah.
25:54When you have a listening party.
25:56What can you say?
25:56I mean, that was great.
25:57They came along, we had a playback,
26:00and, uh, which, you know,
26:01is bigger in America, I mean, than England.
26:04I want to ask you about a listening party,
26:06because I've been to a couple of them,
26:08in my life, and I'm always confused, okay?
26:11Yeah.
26:11So you play the record,
26:13and everybody sits around and listens to the record.
26:15Yeah.
26:15When I am a guest at your listening party,
26:19what am I supposed to do?
26:20Listen to the record.
26:22Uh-huh.
26:22And if you have a question,
26:24or you want to say hi,
26:26you do that to me, the artist.
26:28What about while I'm listening to the record?
26:31Are you looking at me to see how I'm...
26:33I'm not there.
26:33You're not there.
26:35No, I'm just in the next room having a party.
26:37Okay.
26:38Okay, good.
26:39All right.
26:39That's better.
26:40Yeah, yeah.
26:41Because otherwise...
26:42Then you can just relax.
26:43Yeah, because I don't want to sit there,
26:44and go, I'm going like this.
26:46And then, guess who's coming?
26:47Yeah!
26:47And doing that kind of stuff.
26:49Okay, good.
26:49That makes me feel more comfortable.
26:51Good.
26:51Um, this is the most famous album cover in the world.
26:55Would you agree with that?
26:56Yeah.
27:02Now, which one of them is stoned?
27:12I guess you'd have to tell me.
27:14Yeah.
27:15Were you guys stoned when you shot this?
27:17No.
27:17No.
27:18Um, does he ever hear from anybody who goes like,
27:20oh, man, that's my Volkswagen?
27:23Uh, we never did, but that's what, you know,
27:26it made it real.
27:27You know, this was, we sat there in deep conversation
27:31about the album cover,
27:33and we should go to, like, Egypt and do the pyramids,
27:37you know, stand by the pyramids,
27:39or we should go here where they, you know,
27:41there's something great in that city.
27:43Go to Rome, go to, you know.
27:46Uh, why don't we just walk across the road?
27:48Just across the road.
27:49Yeah, okay.
27:51Yeah.
27:52You know, I've been there,
27:54and I, of course, took a picture in the,
27:55in the intersection there,
27:56and it seemed the drivers are not that thrilled
27:58about everybody taking pictures all the time.
28:01You've cursed that neighborhood in general.
28:03Well, what about, like, the people,
28:05like, like this guy back here,
28:07and these people?
28:08Are these people that you know?
28:10No.
28:10No, they're just strangers.
28:11No idea.
28:12We just got off our seats,
28:14walked out the front door,
28:15and walked across.
28:17Have you, Ringo,
28:18ever been pulled over by the cops?
28:20Yeah.
28:21And do they see you and go keep,
28:23continue on?
28:24They used to in the 60s.
28:26Uh-huh.
28:27And, um, you know,
28:29one guy at one cop pulled me over and stopped me.
28:33I may have been going a little fast.
28:35Uh-huh.
28:35He said,
28:36Ringo, slow down.
28:37If anything happens to you,
28:38my daughter will be miserable.
28:41That's a nice way of doing it.
28:42Yeah, yeah.
28:44Has Ringo ever been in a Waymo?
28:49I don't know what a Waymo is.
28:52I think you know.
28:54They're those cars that don't have drivers
28:56out on the street here in L.A.
28:58No.
28:59You've never been in one?
29:00No.
29:00Do you have any desire to get into one?
29:02No, I like to drive myself.
29:04Okay.
29:04Have you ever been in a Costco?
29:07What's that?
29:11It's only the best place on the planet,
29:14I don't know what you mean.
29:16Had you,
29:17what was the last time you had to show,
29:19besides like the airport,
29:21ID to prove?
29:22Well, I had it, uh,
29:24two tours ago.
29:26You know,
29:27we're touring America.
29:29I didn't bring,
29:30you know,
29:31my passport or anything.
29:33And we got to one airport
29:35and they wanted identification.
29:37And I,
29:38you know,
29:39say you were at the airport,
29:41I said,
29:41well,
29:41ask anybody out there.
29:44And all these people would say,
29:45it's Fingo!
29:48And I said,
29:48well,
29:48we can't let you through without it.
29:50Anyway,
29:51they called home security or whatever.
29:54And they said,
29:56okay,
29:56well,
29:56we're going to let you get on the plane,
29:57but you have to go and be smelled by the dog.
29:59Oh.
30:00So I went and got,
30:02the dog sniffed me,
30:03and then I got on the plane.
30:06Wow.
30:07Beautiful.
30:09Have you ever asked someone else for an autograph?
30:14No.
30:15Never have.
30:17Probably never will.
30:19You never know.
30:21Well,
30:22it's great to have you here.
30:23I really,
30:23I love having you here.
30:24It's so much fun to get to talk to you.
30:25It's like,
30:26if I have a record,
30:27and this is the record right there.
30:29It's called Long,
30:30Long Road.
30:31Ringo Starr,
30:32everybody.
30:33It comes out Friday.
30:35Thank you,
30:50Ringo.
30:50Ringo Starr invented tater tots,
30:52so they're the only ones
30:52who can make the real thing.
30:53But these are soggy.
30:55I will stay with the original
30:57Oreida tater tots.
31:00Crispy.
31:03Oreida.
31:04There's only one original.
31:11I'm on the way.
31:15Our next guest is known for his work
31:16at both the White House
31:18and White Castle.
31:19He is an integral part
31:21of a new series
31:21of short pot-themed
31:23mini-documentaries
31:24produced by me,
31:25of all people.
31:26Four by 20.
31:27Quick Hits is on Hulu
31:28starting tonight.
31:29Four 20.
31:30Please welcome Cal Penn.
31:42Welcome, welcome, Cal.
31:43Thank you, sir.
31:44Thank you, thank you.
31:45I heard you meant Ringo.
31:47I sure did.
31:48That's exciting.
31:48Very, very exciting.
31:49Was that your first Beatle meeting?
31:51You know, I actually,
31:53I, technically, yes.
31:55Okay.
31:56I saw Paul McCartney once.
31:59Okay.
32:00At Michelle Obama's 50th birthday party.
32:02Oh, in like a social situation.
32:03I know, that's like,
32:04that's like the douchiest name drop
32:06that you could do when you work.
32:08But yes.
32:08But you worked there
32:09in the White House.
32:10This was after I,
32:11after I worked there
32:11and it was just,
32:12it was, you know,
32:13it was a really fun,
32:14massive birthday party
32:15and I, I had had,
32:16you know,
32:17I'd had like,
32:17like seven drinks maybe.
32:19Great.
32:19So I told myself
32:21that that was too many drinks
32:22to meet Ringo Starr.
32:24Like two drinks.
32:24Paul McCartney.
32:25Paul McCartney.
32:25Yeah.
32:26Two drinks is like,
32:27you're, you're,
32:27you know,
32:27you're socially lubricated.
32:29Seven is like,
32:30on your road
32:31to Kash Patel level.
32:32Yeah.
32:33Drinks.
32:34And I just didn't want to,
32:36in that White House,
32:37you didn't want to.
32:37You're running the FBI.
32:38Yeah, yeah, yeah.
32:40Yeah, yeah, yeah.
32:41Well, have,
32:42have you ever thought
32:43about running for office?
32:44Because I know,
32:45I know you had a job in politics,
32:46but have you thought about that?
32:49Thanks for the one woo.
32:50I, um,
32:51I think my polling
32:52indicates that I shouldn't.
32:54Uh, I,
32:56I also just,
32:56I mean,
32:57are,
32:57are there going to be
32:58any more elections?
32:59I just,
32:59as soon as,
33:00maybe making movies
33:01You'd probably know
33:02better than I will, yeah.
33:03If there are more elections,
33:04is it something that you,
33:05it's never crossed your mind?
33:07I would love to continue
33:08to serve in some other way,
33:10but I really love
33:11what we do.
33:12Okay, good.
33:12So much.
33:13Unless, again,
33:14you know,
33:14if there's an opening
33:15at the FBI.
33:17You,
33:17oh, by the way,
33:18thank you for being part
33:19of these, uh,
33:204x20 quick hit documentaries.
33:22We,
33:23we made one
33:23about the,
33:24the origin story
33:25of Harold and Kumar
33:27go to White Castle.
33:28It's really a great,
33:29it's a crazy story.
33:30It's an insane story.
33:32And it was really fun to make.
33:33I mean,
33:34thank you for,
33:34thank you for making them.
33:36Did you,
33:36at the time,
33:37did you have any idea,
33:38I know,
33:39you know,
33:39you don't know
33:39if something's gonna be
33:40successful or not,
33:41that it would become,
33:41like,
33:42a stoner classic?
33:43No.
33:43No clue.
33:44Like,
33:44no clue
33:45that it was gonna go
33:46anywhere that people
33:47would love it.
33:47And I have to say,
33:48like,
33:48today,
33:49even today,
33:50people come up to,
33:52uh,
33:52me on the street
33:53and offer joints
33:54not just on a day
33:55as auspicious
33:56as 420.
33:57Uh,
33:57You probably get it
33:58a lot, right?
33:59A lot,
33:59constantly.
34:00And you think two things.
34:01Like,
34:01one,
34:01if your biggest job hazard
34:02in the world
34:03is people offering you
34:04free marijuana
34:04over a 20-year period,
34:07it shows you
34:08the humanity
34:08in people.
34:09Yes.
34:10And also,
34:11like,
34:11our fans are truly
34:13across the political spectrum.
34:15So,
34:16like,
34:16when I see the stuff
34:17that you have to deal with,
34:18I just think,
34:19like,
34:19this is not my experience
34:21because I have the MAGA crowd
34:22handing me joints
34:24in certain places
34:25going,
34:25we love you, man.
34:26And I'm like,
34:27You might be surprised
34:28to learn that
34:28will happen to me
34:29on occasion as well.
34:31I have,
34:32by the vast,
34:34mostly positive experiences
34:35with everyone.
34:37Yes.
34:37But,
34:38yeah,
34:38you're right.
34:39Maybe we need to,
34:39like,
34:39hotbox Congress
34:40or something.
34:41It's not a bad idea.
34:43Everybody together.
34:44Yeah.
34:44It couldn't be worse.
34:45It could not be worse.
34:47It could not be worse.
34:48So,
34:48um,
34:4922 years
34:50since you made the movie.
34:52Yeah.
34:52When's the last time
34:53you watched it?
34:54I actually haven't seen it
34:55in probably a decade.
34:56You haven't,
34:57really?
34:57And it's the,
34:58some of the lines
34:59are so,
35:00um,
35:01specific
35:01and so vulgar
35:03Yeah?
35:04that I forget
35:05that I said them
35:06and then I'll be
35:07walking down the street
35:09like,
35:09with my nephew
35:10and somebody will just yell
35:11like,
35:12like,
35:12one of them.
35:13I'm like,
35:13that is a terrible,
35:14oh,
35:14I said that.
35:15I said that line.
35:16I said that line
35:1822 years ago
35:18and I'm,
35:19and I stand by it.
35:21Do you have,
35:22like,
35:22is there something
35:22that really stands out
35:23for you
35:24when you're thinking
35:25of,
35:25like,
35:25of the actual making
35:26of that film?
35:28Yeah,
35:28there are a couple
35:28things.
35:29You know,
35:29we,
35:29in the second film,
35:31um,
35:31instead of a topless party,
35:33the guys go
35:33to a bottomless party.
35:35Right.
35:35And the,
35:36the first shot
35:37of that scene.
35:37It's a good idea,
35:38by the way.
35:38Phenomenal idea.
35:40They,
35:42John Cho said to me
35:43before we started
35:44shooting that scene,
35:45remember this day
35:45because people will talk
35:47about how we did
35:48a bottomless party
35:49instead of a topless one.
35:50And he wasn't wrong.
35:51Like,
35:51that had,
35:51that had happened.
35:52Now,
35:53would you and John,
35:54have you ever,
35:54do you talk about,
35:55ever talk about
35:56doing another
35:57of these films?
35:58We have talked about
35:59doing another one of these
36:00and,
36:00and what's been,
36:01what's been crazy
36:01over the last 20 years
36:03is some of my favorite
36:04projects that I've worked on
36:05stemmed from Harold and Kumar.
36:07Like what?
36:07Go to White Castle.
36:08So,
36:08I'm,
36:09uh,
36:09in season four of Industry
36:10on HBO.
36:11Okay.
36:12And,
36:12Mickey and Conrad,
36:13the two guys who created
36:14that show,
36:14are big Harold and Kumar fans.
36:15And that's how they thought of you?
36:17And that's how they thought
36:17of me for this.
36:18So,
36:18anytime somebody asks me,
36:19are we doing a fourth one,
36:20I always think of all the,
36:22like,
36:22the joyous stuff that we got
36:23to work on because of it.
36:25Uh,
36:25so,
36:25John Hurwitz and Hayden Schlossberg,
36:26who created the franchise,
36:28are writing the fourth movie
36:30with Josh Heald,
36:31who they created Cobra Kai with.
36:33Um,
36:34and we're hoping to make
36:34a fourth movie.
36:35Oh,
36:36that's great.
36:37They're writing it right now.
36:38Oh,
36:38that's great.
36:39Yeah.
36:39And I've seen the outline.
36:41They,
36:41they've walked me through the outline.
36:43It's,
36:43it,
36:43I,
36:43I hope we get to make this thing.
36:45It's very,
36:45very fun.
36:45One of the most,
36:46one of the best things I think
36:47about the whole deal
36:48is listening to the marketing guy
36:51at White Castle
36:52talk about how he had to,
36:54like,
36:54get his boss on board
36:56with this idea
36:58of using their franchise
37:00in this film.
37:01And I think it was
37:02a really ballsy thing to do.
37:04It was ballsy,
37:05but I also feel like
37:06it,
37:06that conversation had to be like,
37:08you know our audience, right?
37:09You know who,
37:10you know who comes
37:11at two in the morning,
37:12right?
37:12We should do this.
37:13But you know,
37:13corporations tend to be
37:15very,
37:16very conservative
37:17when it comes to that kind of stuff.
37:18Especially back then,
37:19for,
37:19for something,
37:20it was,
37:20it was very illegal.
37:22Yeah, right.
37:22And it's very not today,
37:23at least in most places.
37:25It could have been
37:25Harold and Kumar
37:26go to Arby's
37:27had things gone differently.
37:28It doesn't have
37:29the same ring.
37:30It doesn't,
37:30and you know what,
37:31I remember talking
37:31to John Hurwitz early
37:32when we were shooting
37:33that film,
37:34and I was a little jaded
37:35and I thought,
37:36I don't think you can get
37:37two guys who look like us
37:39to make a movie like this
37:40before he sold it.
37:41And he said,
37:42Cal,
37:42I am making Harold
37:43and Kumar
37:43go to White Castle.
37:44I am not making
37:45David and Jason
37:45go to McDonald's.
37:47And I just thought
37:48that was very funny
37:48and he,
37:49you know,
37:49they sold their script.
37:51There you go.
37:52Well,
37:52thank you for being here
37:53on this awesome show.
37:53Good fish this evening.
37:54Yes,
37:55thank you guys.
37:56420 Quick Hits
37:57is on Hulu now.
37:59Cal Penn,
37:59everybody.
38:00We'll be back
38:00with D3.
38:08Well,
38:08I want to thank
38:09Ringo Starr.
38:10Ringo and his
38:10all-star band
38:11go on tour
38:12starting May 28th.
38:13Thanks to Cal Penn.
38:15Apologies to Matt Damon.
38:16Nightline is next,
38:17but first,
38:18their new album,
38:19Everyone for 10 Minutes,
38:20comes out May 22nd
38:22here with the song
38:23The Van Bleachers.
38:25The Van Bleachers.
38:51I left the house
38:58years ago
38:59Here's the story
39:01about a kid in a shadow
39:03We just didn't want
39:05to be lonely
39:09Scarlet's reply
39:10She got saved
39:12Pulled up and down
39:14and spun out real quick
39:16We just didn't want
39:18to be lonely
39:21I pulled into a Wawa
39:23in Philly in 2000
39:25Blue magic coming
39:26from the speaker
39:27at the gas pump
39:28All Jersey kids
39:30We never learned
39:30to pump gas
39:32So we sat there
39:33with the soundtrack
39:34Met them all
39:35on the way
39:36to Firehouse
39:36Those glory days
39:38Packed the van
39:39and spun through
39:40Being cool
39:41Man, those drive-thru years
39:43really went slow
39:44Wawa likes
39:45the new interview
39:46was making air
39:47But pack the van
39:48Our time was there
39:50That's the story
39:52about kids in the shadow
39:53We just didn't want
39:56to be lonely
39:58I still sing
39:59Glory to the ones
40:00who know the man
40:03Like glory to the ones
40:05on the edge
40:07I just don't want
40:08to be lonely
40:09I think some of us
40:13need to chip away
40:15what we don't understand
40:16Slowly coming over it
40:19Slowly getting under it
40:22Cause there's no
40:24getting over it
40:25So we drove back
40:26from the west
40:27with our new religion
40:28and one-way tickets
40:29in heart
40:30and in hand
40:31Except anything
40:33in my way
40:33This is forever now
40:35And just like that
40:36everything changed
40:41That's the thing
40:42about loving your shadow
40:49Three years from there
40:52I left the house
40:53and saw her standing
40:55on my rooftop
40:56She said
40:57I just don't want
40:59to be lonely
41:03I said
41:04I just don't
41:05want to be lonely
41:06You know
41:10I just don't
41:11want to be lonely
41:12I just don't
41:14I just don't
41:29going to be lonely
41:42don't
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