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00:00Tonight, on the Curse of Oak Island.
00:03Welcome to Azores.
00:04There's a number of questions that can be answered in the Azores.
00:08Some things here relate to our search.
00:09We have this on Oak Island.
00:11It's time to dig.
00:12We need to get to the treasure.
00:15Woo!
00:15Oh, what we got here?
00:17Wow.
00:18You might have some evidence to a 14th century Portuguese presence in Oak Island.
00:24The proof might be underground, right here.
00:26Wow.
00:27Fantastic.
00:31There is an island in the North Atlantic where people have been looking for an incredible
00:37treasure for more than 200 years.
00:41So far, they have found a stone slab with strange symbols carved into it, manmade workings that
00:49date to medieval times, and a lead cross whose origin may be connected to the Knights Templar.
00:56To date, six men have died trying to solve the mystery.
01:02And according to legend, one more will have to die before the treasure can be found.
01:22Come up a little bit, Billy.
01:24There it is.
01:26There you go, Billy.
01:29As a crisp fall morning begins on Oak Island, workers from Rock Equipment and SB Canada repair
01:37the money pit area where the Laginas and their team plan to dig another eight-foot diameter steel shaft in
01:44the coming days.
01:46It is here where they have detected high traces of silver some 200 feet deep in the solution channel, which
01:53have been scientifically matched to a 14th century Portuguese coin, reportedly found in the original money pit back in 1849.
02:05After this, this should be good.
02:07While the work continues on Oak Island, over 2,000 miles to the southeast in the Azores Islands of Portugal.
02:24Gentlemen, welcome.
02:26Hello.
02:27Welcome to Azores.
02:28Thank you very much.
02:29Appreciate it.
02:30Rick and other members of the team have traveled to Terceira.
02:34They are following up on the research that suggests members of the Portuguese sect of the Knights Templar, known as
02:41the Knights of Christ, may have used the Azores to safeguard a portion of their sacred religious treasures before sailing
02:49them to Oak Island between the 14th and 16th centuries.
02:54Everybody, this is Francisco.
02:56He's a historian here in the Azores.
02:59He's worked with us in the past on the stone walls found in Lot 26.
03:02Yep.
03:04In 2022, Francisco examined photos of a stone wall on Lot 26 of Oak Island and believed it could be
03:14of Portuguese origin and date back to the 15th century.
03:19Welcome to the Great Stone Superstial Church.
03:21It is the oldest church in this island.
03:23It was built in 1455 by the first settlements in this island.
03:28Oh, really?
03:29Wow.
03:30What is very important is that this church was built by the action of a Franciscan fire.
03:39Franciscans and the Order of Christ and the Templars were very close.
03:45Close.
03:46Is there the possibility that there was a smaller group that arrived here before the official date?
03:51And so is there anything in this church that speaks to that possibility?
03:55Yes, perhaps there's some clues.
03:57Hmm.
03:58I think we're all eager to see inside.
04:00We are.
04:01Let's go, Luke.
04:01Let's go.
04:02Let's go inside?
04:03Yeah, okay.
04:04There's a number of questions that need to be asked and maybe can be answered in the Azores.
04:08It would be wonderful to find a smoking gun directly connected to the Oak Island mystery.
04:31All of these were saints that the Templars and the Franciscans used to pray on.
04:38Yes.
04:40So this likely dates to the 1450s.
04:43This dates, this is contemporary of the church.
04:46Right, which would be about 150 years after the dissolution of the Knights Templar.
04:53Yeah, yeah.
04:54We're looking at something that the Order of Christ created.
04:58What we have are figures that were important to the Knights Templar.
05:02So this speaks to the continuation of the belief system.
05:05Exactly, exactly.
05:06How closely were the Order of Christ related to the Templar order?
05:10Was it a true continuation of the order?
05:13Yes, it was a true continuation, exactly.
05:16So any belief systems, any treasures, anything they were safeguarding came with them.
05:21Exactly, exactly.
05:26Founded in 1318 by King Denis of Portugal,
05:30the Order of Christ was a successor to the Knights Templar
05:34after their disbanding and persecution by the Catholic Church in 1307.
05:40While it is rumored that the Order of Christ protected Templar treasures in Portugal
05:45and the Azores Islands.
05:47It is known that they were connected to the minting of coins
05:50exactly like the one believed to have been found in the money pit.
05:56We know from documents that there were some people sailing from Azores to west.
06:05In the period between 1434 and 1446,
06:10departed from here, from Azores, 54 caravals to the west.
06:16The Templars not always had the ships,
06:19but the Order of Christ had the ships.
06:23But what was the destination?
06:26West.
06:26We don't know.
06:27Perhaps, eventually, North America,
06:30eventually Oak Island.
06:31It's not so outlandish to believe that an organization like the Order of Christ
06:37would have had the capability, the knowledge, the connections
06:40to get to North America to safeguard what they deemed to be of utmost importance.
06:47If you think of the journey of the Templars as a pilgrimage,
06:50we know from the Camino de Santiago, at the end of the pilgrimage,
06:53the Templars would leave a goose paw, you would scratch a goose paw.
06:57Yeah.
06:58I want to share an observation if you look up.
07:02So, here we have three corners of the chapel.
07:07Only three have three webbed feet.
07:10Three goose paws.
07:12Three there, three there.
07:13There?
07:14Three there, there.
07:15They still have the original red collar.
07:18Very interesting.
07:19Which ties this all together beautifully with the symbol that we found in Nova Scotia.
07:28The goose paw is a three-pronged symbol
07:31that was designed by the Knights Templar
07:33and used to mark important locations for the Order
07:36throughout the Middle East and Europe
07:38between the 11th and 14th centuries.
07:42In recent years, Corian has showed the team
07:45several goose paw carvings
07:47found in places such as the Camerano Caves in Italy.
07:52A 12th century Templar stronghold
07:54which was created in the shape of a cross
07:57matching the design of the lead cross
07:59that was found on Oak Island in 2017.
08:04That is the mark of the nations for the Knights Templar.
08:08Incredible.
08:09And in 2022, Corian showed them a goose paw carving
08:13in Liverpool, Nova Scotia,
08:16just 50 miles southwest of Oak Island.
08:20Isn't that a great connection to Oak Island?
08:22Mm-hmm.
08:23We find the same symbol language here that we know
08:27both from close to Oak Island
08:29and from the place in Europe where we've been.
08:31So, what this place brings is a consistent next step
08:36in the journey that we're sketching,
08:38a journey that led from Jerusalem
08:40through the Mediterranean Basin to Portugal
08:43and through the Azores, maybe to Oak Island.
08:47That's more than I expected.
08:49We would invite you to come to the island
08:52at your convenience
08:53and experience the same mystery,
08:55the same questions that we have puzzled
08:58over lowly's many years.
08:59And maybe with your help and others,
09:01we can finally put an answer to these questions.
09:05So...
09:08Thank you so much.
09:10But we have a lot to discover.
09:11Yeah, let's keep going.
09:12Keep looking.
09:13This has been great.
09:14As the team continues their investigation
09:16in the Azores...
09:19Back on Oak Island...
09:21All right, well, I think I'm positioned okay.
09:22Perfect.
09:25So, hopefully, with continued digging,
09:28you find an artifact to give us an answer to this thing.
09:31That would be nice.
09:32Yes.
09:33Marty joins Laird and Fiona on Lot 8.
09:35at the stone cradle formation
09:37that the team found beneath a 40,000-pound boulder.
09:42What's the plan?
09:44So, we just want to carefully check,
09:47see if there's a soil change,
09:49see if it's not natural.
09:51Yeah.
09:51And just have a feeling
09:53that something was coming this way.
09:55Why don't I dig this down
09:56and look for the roof of a tunnel?
09:58Yeah.
09:58Off chance, I understand, but...
10:00Well, I mean, worst-case scenario
10:02is you hit a tunnel.
10:04So...
10:04Yeah, which is also the best-case scenario.
10:06Yeah.
10:07All right, let's do it.
10:08All right.
10:10Over the past several weeks,
10:13scientific testing and investigation at the site
10:16has revealed traces of silver in the ground soil
10:19and possible evidence of a shaft deeper below.
10:23That's a lot of roots.
10:25Now, because Laird does not want to risk
10:28archeological damage to the feature,
10:30he has given Marty permission to dig an adjacent trench
10:33to look for evidence of a possible tunnel
10:36that may run beneath it.
10:40It sounded like rocks,
10:41but I don't see any.
10:44It's pretty consistent soil.
10:51What the hell is that?
10:54That's interesting.
10:56It doesn't make any sense.
10:59Unbelievable.
11:03Let's see what we got.
11:07I think that's bedrock.
11:09These little chips are starting to look like bedrock.
11:12Yeah.
11:13While digging near the Cradle of Stones on Lot 8...
11:16Oh, that's interesting.
11:17Absolutely.
11:18...Marty has made a potentially important discovery.
11:22And yet we're higher than the base of the cradle over here.
11:28Yeah.
11:29It doesn't make any sense.
11:31Huh.
11:33On the eastern side of Oak Island,
11:35the slate bedrock is known to be flat and at a uniform depth
11:39because Marty has now confirmed that the Cradle of Stones
11:43sits below the bedrock to the side of the feature.
11:47This offers more compelling evidence that the stone cradle
11:50is the result of an earlier excavation
11:54and may be covering a much deeper man-made shaft.
11:57But you didn't hit bedrock in the cradle over here.
12:01No.
12:03So what we need to do next, Laird, then, is...
12:06You need to dig deeper there.
12:08Yeah.
12:08See if you can find bedrock.
12:10Laird doesn't appear to have hit the bedrock at all in that cradle.
12:13So there's the possibility that under that rock,
12:17a lot of digging occurred,
12:18which, you know, makes your mind go to shaft or a tunnel.
12:22So I'm very excited about it.
12:24I'm happy with the information.
12:26It's moving the needle for me that somebody did dig that out.
12:30Way out.
12:31They did it for a reason.
12:33This is not something that somebody would have done lightheartedly.
12:36No.
12:36I think we really need to take our time and understand this a little bit better.
12:40I think this makes it something even more special than we already thought.
12:44I know a certain Rick Lagina will be real interested in this, too,
12:48who will be back from the Azores soon.
12:50So I think we leave this all like this
12:53in case they want to do more or move something around.
12:55Yeah.
12:56So let's call it, shall we?
12:58Excellent.
13:03Meanwhile, over 2,000 miles away on the island of Tercera in the Azores.
13:09Hey Francisco.
13:11Hi.
13:11Welcome to Sreta.
13:13Hey Francisco.
13:14Rick, Alex, and other members of the Oak Island team
13:18have journeyed to the region of Sreta
13:20to meet once again with Francisco Nogueira.
13:24Like we talked about this before,
13:27we have the stone walls like the walls you have in Oak Island
13:31built by the Portuguese, this type of construction.
13:34We have suggestions that the wall on Lot 26
13:37bears a distinct Portuguese Azorian style.
13:42There's distinguishing features about the Lot 26 wall
13:44that we want to keep an eye out for.
13:46There are larger boulders that run along either edge,
13:49and inside of those large boulders,
13:52there are smaller rubble rocks.
13:54So that's one thing that we're looking for here.
13:56We want to look at these walls
13:57and confirm they're made in the same way.
14:01Yeah, those walls are very interesting to us
14:03because carbon dating has said that they were likely
14:06constructed somewhere around 1470, 1475.
14:10The type of construction that we use in Portugal,
14:12that they use in the first settlement here.
14:16And that would put it in what sort of time?
14:2015th, 16th century.
14:21That's very comparable in time to the wall on Oak Island.
14:24Yeah.
14:26Why do you believe it's not earlier than that?
14:28Yes, we don't know for sure.
14:31Nothing says that this wasn't much earlier.
14:34Yes.
14:36In 1427, the Portuguese explorer, Prince Henry the Navigator,
14:41who was also a high-ranking member of the Order of Christ,
14:45officially discovered and claimed the Azores Islands
14:49on behalf of Portugal.
14:51However, some believe that the Order of Christ
14:54may have been secretly visiting the islands
14:57as early as the mid-1300s in order to safeguard
15:01their priceless treasures.
15:03Well, let's go in and see how they compare the wall on Lot 26.
15:07Let's see.
15:07Let's go.
15:09I have really never seen anything like this in my life.
15:12It's full of rock walls
15:14that potentially predate the official dates
15:16of discovery and settlement of the Azores.
15:19Don't get lost.
15:20It's a labyrinth.
15:21Looks like it.
15:21Mm-hmm.
15:23Nobody seems to know who built them
15:25or what the purpose was.
15:27Here's where it gets exciting,
15:28because they're great candidates
15:30to compare to our wall on Lot 26.
15:33Come take a look.
15:35What'd you find, E?
15:40So, look at this.
15:41So, we have small rocks in the middle,
15:44big rocks to contain it,
15:47and the width, it's almost the same as Oak Island.
15:52It's very close.
15:54Come take a look at this.
15:57Got rubble right here.
15:58Yeah, inside the wall.
16:00Yeah.
16:01Yeah.
16:02See it everywhere.
16:03Yep.
16:03It's all in there.
16:05The interior wall is filled with rubble, small stones.
16:10That is exactly the way the Lot 26 wall was created.
16:15But what you can see is a mirror of the Lot 26 wall.
16:21The question here is, why was this wall built in this manner?
16:24Just that it is on Lot 26.
16:27It's almost like the same technique was used on Lot 26.
16:30So, it's almost like that approach was taken from here to Oak Island.
16:36The same style, the same understanding of how walls function,
16:41how you build a wall.
16:43The wall on Lot 26 is unique
16:45because we don't have other examples like that in Nova Scotia, right?
16:51Not that we know of.
16:53So, Francesco, would you think these might have been like living quarters for people?
16:58Maybe.
17:00Maybe.
17:00This is a great place to hide or to keep safe something.
17:04Yes.
17:05Interesting.
17:08Might a treasure once have found its way to the Azores and thus to Oak Island?
17:13There's nothing we see within this complex that would suggest anything other
17:18than the possibilities when people are committed to an endeavor like Oak Island.
17:24I've said it many times, where there's a will, there's a way.
17:27All you have to do is look around you at this incredible complex of stone
17:32and realize that there is a purpose.
17:36All of that is associated with Oak Island.
17:39This fits all our timelines, right?
17:42Yeah.
17:43It sure does.
17:43We sort of suspect that perhaps somebody was here in the 1300s secretly.
17:50This is a great place to hide.
17:53Yes.
17:53We talk about it all the time on the island.
17:55You've got to look backwards in order to look forwards.
17:57And we know just from this little experience here that indeed the possibility of information
18:05having traveled through the new world generationally.
18:08Is there a place on the island where we can qualify a little bit more, perhaps?
18:12Yes.
18:13We have a lot to see connected to the Oak Island.
18:15So, that's it?
18:16Yeah.
18:16Okay.
18:21As a new day begins on Oak Island.
18:25Billy.
18:26Hey.
18:26Glad to see you here.
18:29All right.
18:29I'm ready.
18:30Marty joins other members of the team on Center Road, near the western border of the swamp.
18:35The sand road projects right down here.
18:38And if it's here, then that would be a very strong clue that Center Road was here before the survey.
18:47Right.
18:47Right.
18:48The team is preparing to dig a cross section of Center Road to look for evidence that it
18:54may have been built by previous treasure hunters on top of the sand-covered cobblestone road that
19:00was recently found running through the swamp toward the believed Portuguese stone road in the southeast corner.
19:07If the team can find evidence of the sand and cobblestone road here, it could suggest that it was created
19:13by someone long ago.
19:15Perhaps even before a 1762 survey when Oak Island was divided into 32 four-acre lots.
19:24As I'm standing here, Billy, I see the sand road you nicely uncovered.
19:29I'm lined right up with it, which also lines right up with Center Road proper.
19:34So I think this is our spot.
19:36Yeah.
19:37Hey, Marty, what time is it, mate?
19:39It's time to dig.
19:41Gary, time to dig.
19:42You heard the man.
19:47Let's give the boy room.
19:54Here we go.
19:56We speculate, upon looking at this sand road, that it could be directly under Center Road.
20:03If that's the case, whoever built it came here long before anybody else.
20:10Is that sand there already?
20:12Oh, it might have seen sand.
20:14Kind of, yeah.
20:16That would explain the activity that was here before the money pit.
20:18It would explain the very significant wall on Lot 26.
20:22Play rich.
20:23It would explain the rock feature on Lot 8.
20:25It would explain virtually everything.
20:27It's a little abort.
20:28Keep digging.
20:45Get the rock here underneath there.
20:47Sounds that way.
20:47Yeah, it looks like sand now.
20:50Check this out.
20:53How do you think?
20:54Right down here.
20:55Look at that.
20:55Yeah, that's sand there.
20:56It should be.
21:07Still a lot of gravel in there too.
21:11I'm afraid we're getting contamination from the road.
21:13Yeah.
21:14If you want to look at the end of the bucket here, you can see the profile of what it
21:17is.
21:17Rocks.
21:19Sand.
21:19Take a look, Larry.
21:21Oh, here.
21:23You can see how it's rocks on the bottom and the sand.
21:25Yeah.
21:27But I mean, that shouldn't be here naturally.
21:30That's not the natural dirt for here, no.
21:32All right.
21:33Gonna have a scan.
21:37I just don't see anything definitive here.
21:41No metal.
21:44This isn't jumping out at me.
21:47It's a little bit tricky to evaluate it because you have to raise the possibility of contamination
21:53from modern construction.
21:55So we need to try another location, any sort of ancient road.
22:01On this island, this is worth following.
22:05Do we want to put this back, Billy, and try one more right there?
22:08Sure.
22:09As the team repositions to dig another cross section through Center Road.
22:16Oh, look at how pretty that is.
22:18Yeah.
22:18Beautiful.
22:19Rick and members of the team arrive at the Angra do Heroismo Museum.
22:25It's incredible.
22:26Welcome.
22:28Great to see you.
22:29I'm Alex.
22:30Welcome to the Museum of Angra.
22:33Francisco has arranged for the team to look for clues in the museum and meet with local
22:39archaeologist Tiago Rodriguez regarding artifacts that have been found on Oak Island.
22:45We have a Portuguese coin dating to the late 1300s.
22:49And if it came through the Azores, that's about 50 years, give or take, prior to the official
22:55date that the Azores were discovered and then colonized.
22:57The Portuguese navigated throughout the Atlantic.
23:01We have other evidences that allows us to conclude that the Azores had people before the Portuguese.
23:10We didn't know how much they were, who they were.
23:15So is it possible that some people knew that the Azores were here?
23:23Of course.
23:24It does kind of remind me of the early years of our treasure hunt on Oak Island.
23:29Stories that speak of people from Europe at a time when the conventional story says that people from Europe should
23:35not have been there.
23:36Of course.
23:36And from what Tiago is telling us, it sounds like that is again the case with the story here in
23:41the Azores.
23:43Before you arrived, Emiliano and myself did some scouting here in the museum.
23:47What we came to do here is well illustrated by this stone here.
23:53This is 15th century Emiliano?
23:571454 probably.
23:59And it's the oldest stone carving that were found here in the Azores.
24:04This caught our attention, not only because it's possibly one of the oldest or the oldest carved stones that there
24:11are on this island, but particularly because of what it's showing, you know, the swirls here from the copper piece
24:19from the ribbon.
24:21In 2022, the team unearthed part of a copper artifact on Lot 8, decorated with an ornate symbol.
24:30Incredibly, one year later, they saw the similar symbol in a Templar-related manuscript in Reykjavik, Iceland, that dated back
24:38to the 12th century.
24:41I actually have a photo of our copper artifact from Lot 8 that shows that symbol.
24:45Let's see if it compares to what we're seeing here.
24:49I mean, it could be a match.
24:56Well done.
25:00It could be a match.
25:02It has the same middle feature here.
25:06And then on the ends, it could round closed for sure.
25:11At the Angra do Heroismo Museum in the Azores, the team has found a 15th century stone carving that may
25:19be connected to the Knights Templar and the Order of Christ, which matches a symbol on the copper artifact that
25:26was discovered on Lot 8 in 2022.
25:30It shows that when people traveled, they took their symbols with them, right?
25:35Correct.
25:35Correct.
25:35And also, that symbol is the one we found in a manuscript in Reykjavik in Iceland.
25:44It was a manuscript from the 1200s.
25:46This is a stone from the 1400s.
25:51And that means that that kind of knowledge or the symbolism was passed on because we are in the Azores,
25:58thousands of kilometers from Iceland.
26:00But still, we are seeing a clear connection between these countries and Oak Island.
26:07Some things here lay to our search.
26:09The image is telling a story.
26:11We see the decorative carving indicating the possibility that Templars or the Knights of Christ knew of the Azores before
26:21their documented discovery by the Portuguese.
26:24Could it be related to the copper artifact that we found on Lot 8?
26:29I think it's very plausible that they had the ability to make a transatlantic voyage.
26:35Diego, we've actually brought some artifacts from Oak Island with us.
26:38We were hoping you'd take a look at them.
26:40I would be glad to help and to see.
26:43And we have a room that we can look at closer.
26:47Lead the way.
26:49We're trying to understand the pre-Columbian history of Oak Island and what happened there.
26:57We've brought a number of artifacts.
26:59And Tiago is qualified to look at them and render an opinion.
27:02I hope that he can speak definitively about them.
27:07Diego, we really appreciate you taking a look at these items.
27:10I guess maybe we'll just dive right in and get your thoughts.
27:14Yeah, let's go.
27:16This is actually one of the stone shot that we found on the island.
27:20This was found this year, actually.
27:28It looks like a stone bullet, so they have a period of time where they were most used.
27:36And that links to the 14th century.
27:39Right.
27:40Which could link to the periods that you're looking for.
27:43Most probable, then, is that this is from the 1300s or earlier.
27:49It could be.
27:50They could have been using them later, but it's not common.
27:55So, yeah, it points to the 14th century.
27:58Have you found any around here in the Azores at all?
28:01I've heard of some that are in the Azores, in particular in the Seda Island.
28:07I know they exist.
28:09This is more like human combat face-to-face to small battles.
28:15But it's interesting, because if you have to take this to Oak Island, you have to go by boat.
28:21And you have to be prepared for something.
28:24It implicates a journey where the risk exists.
28:28So, it's a very interesting piece.
28:31You know, we're looking at several scenarios of when treasure might have passed through the Azores
28:36and then moved to Oak Island and safeguarded there.
28:38To hear Tiago agree that our stone shot and others like it have been found here in the islands
28:44is the connective tissue we're looking for.
28:49This is so small, it could link to a hand cannon.
28:54So, it's very interesting.
28:57Now that you mention it, this is a very interesting artifact.
29:01And we believe that it may be a small hand cannon.
29:09And I have the report to go along with it.
29:12Earlier this year, when the team first discovered a section of the sand-covered road
29:17in the western region of the swamp, they found part of a hand cannon,
29:22a weapon first invented in China during the 12th century.
29:26After having Emma Culligan examine the piece in the lab,
29:30the team sent photos of the artifact to Maltese military historian Matthew Balzan for his analysis.
29:37In the European culture, it was used in warfare mostly from the 13th to the 15th, at most early 16th
29:48century.
29:49Wow.
29:52The hand cannon were common in the 1300s, yes.
29:57In the report, the most interesting part of this piece for me is the XRF,
30:03because it shows a lot of sulfur, which indicates an explosion.
30:08Mm-hmm.
30:10Which means it was fired.
30:12Mm-hmm.
30:12Once again, links to the unknown, the journey going to the unknown world.
30:18Mm-hmm.
30:19You have to be prepared.
30:20You have a ship.
30:20You have some kind of weapons.
30:23Mm-hmm.
30:23It's a very interesting piece.
30:25The timelines that Tiago relates, it aligns perfectly for my belief that the effort on Oak Island was in multiple
30:35stages.
30:36I believe it's more aligned with the efforts here in the Azores to possibly protect the treasure in transit from
30:46Europe across the seas to North America and perhaps to Oak Island.
30:51This one here is a deck spike, we believe, from a ship.
30:56It was found a couple of years ago on the island.
31:05The believed deck spike was found in 2023 by Jack Begley while investigating the Rounded Stone Foundation on Lot 5.
31:15Yeah.
31:16That's also a very interesting piece because I've seen this before on the Portuguese ships.
31:22Oh.
31:23Really?
31:23Yeah.
31:24The square style and the large head that's being hammered, it's a very typical nail that goes on the ship.
31:32It could go on a barrel.
31:33So for the Portuguese, it was very, very common, this kind of shape, to be used in boats.
31:40Is there a time period that...
31:43This could be used in the 14th century?
31:49Amazing.
31:55Is it common for the Portuguese and unique to the Portuguese?
31:59Yes.
32:00So for the Portuguese, it was very, very common, this kind of shape, to be used in boats in the
32:0614th century.
32:07Wow.
32:08They were very, very useful in linking the wood together.
32:14So it's more used in ships than in construction.
32:18Okay.
32:18At the Angra do Herrismo Museum in the Azores, archaeologist Tiago Rodriguez has concluded that a spike found in the
32:28round feature on Lot 5 is not only of Portuguese origin, but could also date back to the 1300s.
32:37That artifact just got much more interesting.
32:39Yeah, it did.
32:40It did.
32:41Could this artifact offer further evidence to support the theory that members of the Templar-related Order of Christ may
32:50have visited Oak Island as much as for centuries before the discovery of the money pit?
32:55I mean, what can you say?
32:57Without any hesitation, this is Portuguese.
33:00Size, shape, weight, hammered head, everything spoke to him that it was a Portuguese design.
33:09Quite impactful.
33:11Okay, next up.
33:13This sparked a lot of excitement for us this year.
33:16It was revealed to us by a family that was associated with the treasure hunt on Oak Island in the
33:22past.
33:22And that family showed it to us this year, and it's a Portuguese coin, the Ferdinand I, minted somewhere between
33:301367 and 1383.
33:39Wow.
33:41Was this on Oak Island?
33:42Yeah, the story behind this coin is that in 1849 they were drilling to try and strike the treasure chamber.
33:50And this may have come up on the drill bit.
33:54If this is a coin from the 14th century, you might have some answers to linking to the shipping spikes
34:03and other evidence that could suggest an early presence in Oak Island.
34:09Yeah.
34:11And you previously said about the stone shot that it was most predominantly used likely in the 14th century as
34:17well.
34:18Both those objects, we believe, came from underground on our island in the so-called treasure pit.
34:24Yeah.
34:25So there's a connection there.
34:26Oh, almost for sure.
34:27So a lot of these artifacts seem to be centering on the 1300s that we've shown you here today.
34:33Several have, and several are also converging on the 15th century, which happens to be kind of the two timelines
34:40that we were wanting to investigate.
34:41Yeah.
34:43I don't think they are all from the same timeline.
34:45Right.
34:46And I think Oak Island have a lot of very, very, very good evidence that creates a pattern.
34:53Yeah.
34:53The proof might be underground on Oak Island.
34:58And we might only do as good as establishing plausibility until something comes out of the ground.
35:06Yeah.
35:07The forensic evidence seems to point that silver and gold is underground almost certainly.
35:12Mm-hmm.
35:13It's quite impactful to have a person of his experience and his understanding confirm.
35:19The clues to the possibility of a treasure moving east to west.
35:23It's a very interesting piece.
35:25Mm-hmm.
35:26There might be multiple treasures connected to the Templars and their descendants.
35:32So we learn that as you uncover clues, you not only advance the search agenda, but you learn about history
35:40worldwide.
35:42You know, this is a little bit different setting than the war room on Oak Island, but it had been
35:47highly informative.
35:48We're most appreciative of both of your time.
35:51You've set us on a course of action that may provide the definitive answers that we seek.
35:56I can't say anything more than just thank you.
35:59My pleasure.
36:00Thank you very much.
36:04Let's go here.
36:05Meanwhile, back on Oak Island...
36:10Oh, the rock under that.
36:11Yep.
36:12Marty Laird and Andre Lang thorough ...
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