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Philosopher Stefan Molyneux's 19 April 2026 Sunday Morning Live breaks down motherhood-burden lies to champion stay-at-home strength, parenting reinvention and tailored education for commanding family truths.

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0:01:24 Debating the Draft vs. Motherhood
0:06:40 Understanding Gender Roles in Society
0:12:06 The Burden of Child Rearing
0:16:21 Women’s Work Through History
0:22:21 Comparing Past and Present Labor
0:29:04 The Economics of Parenthood
0:32:48 Emotional Manipulation in Parenting
0:38:57 The Rewards of Parenting
0:42:02 The Nature of Complaining
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1:05:03 The Importance of Teaching Skills
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00:00:00Good morning, friends. I hope you're doing well.
00:00:03Stefan Molyneux from Freedom, Maine.
00:00:05Welcome to your Sunday morning philosophy takedown of the forces of anti-reason.
00:00:11And I started my day off.
00:00:15Constantine, someone or other, was debating Andrew Wilson,
00:00:21husband of Rachel Wilson, who has actually a great book
00:00:26on the occult origins of feminism, which you should check out.
00:00:30And Andrew and Rachel show up on the whatever podcast and other areas.
00:00:37And they were debating the draft versus motherhood.
00:00:43The draft versus motherhood.
00:00:46And we'll put a link to the debate below.
00:00:51It was shockingly bad.
00:00:53Okay, Andrew Wilson is a very smart guy and a very good debater.
00:00:58He has that slightly drunken uncle, weary impatience with frivolity and foolishness
00:01:04that is actually quite powerful.
00:01:06And I don't mean that to diminish his rhetorical skills, which are very good.
00:01:10But he has this, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it.
00:01:12Okay, I understand.
00:01:13Yeah, yeah, I got it, got it.
00:01:14And it's very, very effective.
00:01:17And I certainly applaud that.
00:01:20Debating is in part show and in part reason.
00:01:24And of course, the reason should outshine the show.
00:01:26But you need to have, it doesn't, if you have a great product, you also need a great salesman.
00:01:30In fact, the better the product, the more of a great salesman you need.
00:01:33And the argument was something like this.
00:01:38So Constantine was saying, women have to carry children and raise children.
00:01:46And that is the unique contribution that they provide to society.
00:01:50And Andrew Wilson's argument was that men are subject to the draft.
00:01:58And the draft is compelled and often deadly.
00:02:03And there are worse things that can happen to you in war than to die.
00:02:09Some people go through so much war trauma that they end up committing suicide years later,
00:02:14which is a fate worse than death in some ways.
00:02:19And the argument was interesting because it comes down to compelled versus non-compelled.
00:02:24The draft, you know, that, as Andrew pointed out, they're drafting men in Ukraine at the age of 60.
00:02:34I could be drafted if I was in Ukraine.
00:02:38Although not if I say it that way.
00:02:39I could be drafted.
00:02:41Maybe I could be drafted.
00:02:43Duke Duke voice.
00:02:44I could be drafted.
00:02:47And the compelled nature of it is interesting.
00:02:50And the equivalence was made, Constantine was saying, but women have this great burden of having and raising children,
00:02:58which economically disadvantages them, right?
00:03:02Because they have to take time off from work in order to raise children.
00:03:06And that is a negative.
00:03:08And that, of course, bypasses the fact that when women take time off from work,
00:03:13almost always somebody else pays the bills.
00:03:15The husband, the government, obviously, in a very big way through $100,000 worth of welfare
00:03:22for the average single mother of two children, welfare and other benefits.
00:03:27And so, you have to take the entirety of a woman's income.
00:03:32You don't just look at her salaried income and say, that's her income.
00:03:36That's crazy.
00:03:38I mean, that's just completely deranged.
00:03:40Because then all women without jobs would have to be living under bridges or in tent cities or something like
00:03:48that.
00:03:48And, you know, it's just a while to be.
00:03:51It's a while to be that people get lost in all of these abstract arguments and don't just do the
00:03:56basic work of,
00:03:57oh, I don't know, looking around society.
00:04:00If women are so underpaid, and if a woman's economic consumption is only, only determined by her salaried income,
00:04:12then why are women, you know, a third of women stay home with their kids or more,
00:04:17why are women not living under bridges if they don't have an income?
00:04:21It's because if a woman is raising children, somebody else is paying her income.
00:04:25Again, it could be the taxpayers, it could be usually the husband or someone.
00:04:31I mean, it could be savings and things like that.
00:04:32It could be the parents, her parents could be paying it and so on.
00:04:38But it's just this funny thing where people don't, they get lost in all this data,
00:04:42and they don't just actually look at the world as it is.
00:04:47And Constantine, I mean, midwit personified, I mean, midwit personified,
00:04:54because the argument that men are subject to the draft, and that's their special obligation,
00:04:59was countered, and I wouldn't have countered it this way, but whatever.
00:05:02I mean, everybody has their different style.
00:05:07Now, it's countered by saying men have the special obligation to go to war if they're drafted,
00:05:15women have a special obligation to have children,
00:05:18and Andrew Wilson was pointing out, of course, that women aren't having children.
00:05:22I mean, now, when, this is kind of a good faith debate thing.
00:05:28This is how you know whether you're debating someone because you're both in hot pursuit of the truth,
00:05:32or because you're just trying to score points and win something, right?
00:05:39So, there's a shorthand or a shortcut to language, right?
00:05:45Which is when you say, but women aren't having children.
00:05:48What does that mean?
00:05:49That means that, as a whole, a society is significantly below the replacement rate,
00:05:55in particular for, let's say, the historical population, right?
00:06:00So, women aren't having children.
00:06:02As part of the culture.
00:06:04Now, if you import a bunch of people from some other country,
00:06:06and they have a bunch of kids, that's raising the birth rate, of course, right?
00:06:11But we were talking about sort of the historical or culturally contiguous part of the society.
00:06:18So, you know that meme where the guy is standing in the, looks like the piazza,
00:06:24holding a cup of coffee,
00:06:25and he says to a woman,
00:06:28the average height of women is 5'4".
00:06:31And the woman says,
00:06:33I'm 5'6", though.
00:06:35And the man just takes a weary sip of the cup of coffee.
00:06:42And men deal with abstractions.
00:06:44Women deal with particulars.
00:06:45This is not an IQ thing.
00:06:47Women are brilliant in many ways,
00:06:49but that is the generality.
00:06:51This is why men tend to work with abstract things,
00:06:55principles, engineering, and so on.
00:06:57And women prefer working with people,
00:06:58because men deal with concepts,
00:07:01and women deal with instances.
00:07:03And both, of course, are absolutely essential.
00:07:06You need to have a fence around your house to keep the wolves out,
00:07:10but you need to deal with children as individuals in order to raise them.
00:07:13So, both are essential.
00:07:16So, Andrew Wilson says,
00:07:17but women aren't having children.
00:07:20To which Constantine responds,
00:07:23but my wife is having children,
00:07:25and your wife had children?
00:07:28And it's like,
00:07:29that is such a bad faith argument,
00:07:31and that's so feminized.
00:07:33And listen,
00:07:34I don't mean feminized in any negative way whatsoever.
00:07:37Feminized is beautiful.
00:07:38For women,
00:07:39it's just not so great.
00:07:41For actual men.
00:07:43And,
00:07:44what do you even say to that?
00:07:46That's just such a pathetically bad faith argument.
00:07:50Women as a whole,
00:07:51like,
00:07:52as a whole,
00:07:52is implied,
00:07:53right?
00:07:54And,
00:07:55of course,
00:07:58it's an insult to everyone involved.
00:08:00If you say,
00:08:00women aren't having children,
00:08:02and then you point out two instances
00:08:05out of hundreds of millions of women across the West,
00:08:08or, you know,
00:08:09in South Korea,
00:08:10and Japan,
00:08:12and so on.
00:08:14If you say,
00:08:15women aren't having children,
00:08:16and you say,
00:08:18I know two women who are having children.
00:08:21And,
00:08:22of course,
00:08:22that is implied,
00:08:23like,
00:08:23above the replacement rate.
00:08:26It's such a pathetic response.
00:08:28That,
00:08:30what is implied,
00:08:32I try not to have these things in debates,
00:08:35and you'll see me pushing back when I'm debating with listeners,
00:08:38and I see we've got some callers,
00:08:39so I'll get you in a second.
00:08:40I appreciate your patience.
00:08:42But,
00:08:44if
00:08:45someone was so dumb
00:08:48as
00:08:48to hear the statement,
00:08:50women aren't having children,
00:08:51and then think that the most brilliant rebuttal
00:08:54is to point out that he
00:08:55knows of a woman who is
00:08:57having children,
00:08:58it would be to say
00:09:00that Andrew Wilson
00:09:01is making the argument
00:09:03that absolutely zero women are having children,
00:09:06despite the fact that he's married to
00:09:08Rachel Wilson,
00:09:10who has had a bunch of kids.
00:09:11I mean,
00:09:12what do you even say to that?
00:09:14It drags
00:09:16the conversation down
00:09:17to a level
00:09:19south of IQ 80.
00:09:22And I,
00:09:23I actually get very impatient
00:09:25and angry at people
00:09:26who deliberately dumb down debate
00:09:28in order to score
00:09:29a non-existent point.
00:09:32It'd be like saying,
00:09:34LeBron James is not actually a very good basketball player
00:09:37because he misses some shots.
00:09:41Or if they're two sports announcers,
00:09:43LeBron James
00:09:44takes the shot,
00:09:45he misses.
00:09:46And the other one says,
00:09:48oh,
00:09:48are you saying he misses all his shots?
00:09:52What do you even say?
00:09:55Oh,
00:09:55what do you even say?
00:09:56It's so pathetic.
00:09:58And then you waste time.
00:10:00Right?
00:10:00This is pure sophistry
00:10:01on Constantine's part.
00:10:02Now,
00:10:03the idea,
00:10:05the very idea,
00:10:06and this has been a brilliant psyop,
00:10:08and this is not female nature,
00:10:10I wouldn't say that it's female nature,
00:10:12but it's more common
00:10:14among women
00:10:16to inflate
00:10:18their contributions
00:10:20to attempt
00:10:21to provide
00:10:22equal value.
00:10:23So,
00:10:24I had a friend once
00:10:25many years ago
00:10:27who convinced
00:10:28his girlfriend
00:10:30to move
00:10:31from some
00:10:32distant place.
00:10:33I remember having
00:10:34dealing with them
00:10:35a couple of months
00:10:36after this happened.
00:10:37So,
00:10:37he convinced his girlfriend,
00:10:38who he had a long-distance
00:10:40relationship with,
00:10:40he convinced his girlfriend
00:10:41to come and move
00:10:42in with him.
00:10:44And,
00:10:44for months and months,
00:10:46she never got a job.
00:10:47Didn't even look for a job.
00:10:48They weren't having kids,
00:10:49at least at this point
00:10:50in their lives.
00:10:51They were just,
00:10:51you know,
00:10:52playing house,
00:10:52living together
00:10:53in that foolish way
00:10:54that a lot of people
00:10:55in their twenties do.
00:10:57I say this
00:10:58with all due humility,
00:10:58but,
00:11:00I remember them
00:11:01having this conversation.
00:11:03You know when couples
00:11:03have this
00:11:05buried barb resentment
00:11:07and that you're
00:11:08sitting with them
00:11:09and you can feel
00:11:09these icebergs
00:11:11moving deep
00:11:12below the conversation
00:11:13but only the tips
00:11:14are pointing out.
00:11:16And the evening
00:11:17was drawing to a close
00:11:18and he said,
00:11:19I gotta close things up.
00:11:21I have to,
00:11:22I have to get it
00:11:22for work in the morning.
00:11:24I mean,
00:11:25my girlfriend doesn't,
00:11:26but I do,
00:11:26right?
00:11:26And she's like,
00:11:27oh,
00:11:27what do you mean I don't?
00:11:28And so they had
00:11:28this conversation
00:11:31and she clearly
00:11:32didn't want to get a job
00:11:34which is fine.
00:11:35I mean,
00:11:36jobs in your twenties
00:11:37generally suck
00:11:38because you don't
00:11:39actually get to
00:11:40more skilled jobs
00:11:41and better managers
00:11:43until you get older.
00:11:44Like,
00:11:44this is one of the reasons
00:11:45why people become socialists
00:11:46is they have bad bosses
00:11:48when they're in their teenagers
00:11:49because if you're a
00:11:50good and competent boss,
00:11:52you're not managing teenagers,
00:11:54right?
00:11:54Right?
00:11:55So,
00:11:57she didn't want to get a job.
00:11:58Now,
00:11:59could she say,
00:12:00I don't want to get a job?
00:12:01I'm not going to get a job.
00:12:02I just want you to pay all the bills.
00:12:04She couldn't say that
00:12:06because then,
00:12:07clearly,
00:12:09he would be paying for sex,
00:12:11which is gross,
00:12:12right?
00:12:12Men should not pay for sex.
00:12:14The excess resources
00:12:15that men are able
00:12:16to create and provide
00:12:18have been evolved
00:12:19to take care of a wife
00:12:20and children,
00:12:20to pay for a wife
00:12:21and children.
00:12:22So,
00:12:23she couldn't say,
00:12:24well,
00:12:24I just,
00:12:26I just don't want to get a job.
00:12:27I mean,
00:12:28it's not fun.
00:12:29I'd rather you pay all the bills
00:12:30because then the question is,
00:12:32okay,
00:12:32so why,
00:12:33why would I be paying
00:12:34all the bills?
00:12:35What's the big differentiator?
00:12:36If she was just
00:12:36some male roommate,
00:12:37he wouldn't be paying
00:12:38all the bills
00:12:38so the male roommate
00:12:39could stay home,
00:12:40suck on bonbons
00:12:41and watch some
00:12:43Hispanic soap operas
00:12:44or whatever she was doing
00:12:44during the day.
00:12:46So,
00:12:46the only difference would be
00:12:47that he's paying
00:12:48because she's having
00:12:49sex with him
00:12:51and that's gross.
00:12:52Men don't want to pay
00:12:53for sex
00:12:54if they have even
00:12:54a shred of self-esteem.
00:12:56You pay
00:12:57if you're a man,
00:12:58your wife is home
00:12:59raising kids,
00:13:00you pay
00:13:00for the wife and kids.
00:13:02You don't pay for sex.
00:13:03That's gross.
00:13:05I mean,
00:13:05that is
00:13:06prostitution.
00:13:07It's live-in prostitution
00:13:08if
00:13:08the only reason
00:13:09you're paying
00:13:10the woman's bills
00:13:10is because she's
00:13:11having sex with you
00:13:12rather than
00:13:12you're on your way
00:13:13to,
00:13:14like,
00:13:14you're married
00:13:15and you're
00:13:15planning for kids
00:13:16and so on,
00:13:17that's fine
00:13:17and she's nesting.
00:13:18That's beautiful.
00:13:20So,
00:13:20she couldn't just say
00:13:21to my friend,
00:13:22I don't want to get a job.
00:13:23I just want to pay,
00:13:25I want you to pay the bills
00:13:27when we have no plans,
00:13:28at least in the short run,
00:13:29they had no plans
00:13:30for marriage
00:13:31or they were just
00:13:31playing house.
00:13:33So,
00:13:34she couldn't say that
00:13:35because then he'd say,
00:13:36well,
00:13:37I don't want to pay
00:13:38all the bills
00:13:39because,
00:13:39you know,
00:13:41then I'm paying
00:13:42a lot extra
00:13:42to have you here
00:13:43just in return
00:13:44for having sex.
00:13:45So,
00:13:45that was not a,
00:13:46so she had to,
00:13:47so what did she have to do?
00:13:48She had to create
00:13:49an obligation
00:13:49on his part
00:13:50that he was responsible for
00:13:52that wasn't just sex.
00:13:53So,
00:13:54what did she say?
00:13:55I remember this evening
00:13:56like it was yesterday
00:13:57because it really
00:13:58illuminated a lot for me.
00:14:00She said,
00:14:01she said,
00:14:02look,
00:14:03you have to pay the bills
00:14:04because I moved
00:14:04all the way here
00:14:05to be with you.
00:14:06I gave up my whole life
00:14:08in this other place
00:14:09to come here
00:14:10and live with you.
00:14:12So,
00:14:13you have to pay the bills
00:14:14until I get a job
00:14:15and it's taking me a while
00:14:16to get settled
00:14:16and there's still things
00:14:17that I need to do
00:14:18and I'm still getting used
00:14:19to the neighborhood
00:14:19and figuring out
00:14:21what the bus routes are
00:14:22and all the stuff.
00:14:23But I gave up
00:14:25my whole life
00:14:27to come here
00:14:28and be with you.
00:14:28The least you could do
00:14:29is cover the bills
00:14:30for a little while.
00:14:31Right?
00:14:32So,
00:14:32she created
00:14:33a labor,
00:14:34an obligation,
00:14:35a hole
00:14:37that he just had
00:14:38to fill in for her.
00:14:40I gave up
00:14:41my whole life.
00:14:43I moved
00:14:44all the way here
00:14:45just to be with you
00:14:46and you can't
00:14:47just cover rent
00:14:47for a couple of,
00:14:48right?
00:14:50Brilliant.
00:14:52Honestly,
00:14:52brilliant.
00:14:53I mean,
00:14:54not honest.
00:14:56Not honest.
00:14:57I mean,
00:14:58if I had been
00:15:00in the man's shoes,
00:15:02I would have said,
00:15:03uh,
00:15:03nope,
00:15:04that's not what
00:15:04we talked about ahead.
00:15:05I mean,
00:15:05if you talked about it
00:15:06ahead of time
00:15:06and said,
00:15:07I want at least
00:15:08four to six months
00:15:08of you covering the bills
00:15:09for me to come
00:15:10and move in with you,
00:15:11then we could have
00:15:11had that discussion.
00:15:13But you can't come here,
00:15:15you know,
00:15:16you had a job
00:15:16where you were,
00:15:17you can't just come here
00:15:18and not work
00:15:18and say,
00:15:19well,
00:15:19you owe me
00:15:20because that's something
00:15:21you need to negotiate
00:15:22ahead of time.
00:15:24So,
00:15:24did you,
00:15:24do you think I had
00:15:26the assumption
00:15:26that you would get a job
00:15:28relatively quickly
00:15:29after you came
00:15:29to move in with me?
00:15:30Well,
00:15:30sure.
00:15:31So,
00:15:31you can't change the deal
00:15:32later on,
00:15:33right?
00:15:33I mean,
00:15:34that would be
00:15:34my approach,
00:15:36but he was
00:15:38a little cucked
00:15:39as men are.
00:15:42So,
00:15:42this ability,
00:15:43it doesn't just happen
00:15:45for women,
00:15:46it happens for men
00:15:47in the workplace.
00:15:49You know,
00:15:49the famous movie
00:15:50Office Space
00:15:50where people have
00:15:52to justify their jobs,
00:15:53they just make up
00:15:53all of this amazing,
00:15:54intense,
00:15:55wonderful stuff
00:15:56that they're doing
00:15:56and they hope
00:15:58to keep their jobs.
00:15:59So,
00:15:59they just make up
00:15:59value in order
00:16:00to extract a paycheck.
00:16:02Well,
00:16:03I'm involved in
00:16:05strategizing
00:16:06for the entire
00:16:06product line
00:16:08forward thrust
00:16:09in the marketing arena
00:16:10to raise awareness
00:16:12of our solutions
00:16:14among the relevant
00:16:15sectors of the demographic.
00:16:16Again,
00:16:16just make up
00:16:17a bunch of nonsense,
00:16:19all of which
00:16:19is unmeasurable
00:16:20and just sounds impressive
00:16:21and public sector workers
00:16:23do this
00:16:23all the time
00:16:25and people do it
00:16:26with their
00:16:26business cards,
00:16:28you know,
00:16:28those big fold-out
00:16:28business cards
00:16:29where they just claim
00:16:30to be the masters
00:16:30of the universe,
00:16:32master of time,
00:16:33space and dimension
00:16:34and then I want
00:16:35to go to Paris
00:16:36and women do this.
00:16:38Again,
00:16:38not all,
00:16:39some,
00:16:39and they exaggerate
00:16:41how difficult
00:16:43their jobs are.
00:16:44They exaggerate
00:16:45how difficult
00:16:46their lives are
00:16:46in order to extract
00:16:49resources.
00:16:50I moved here
00:16:51quivering lips,
00:16:52I gave up my life,
00:16:54I moved here
00:16:54just to be with you,
00:16:56right?
00:16:58So,
00:16:59I mean,
00:16:59this is the root
00:17:00of women feeling
00:17:01overwhelmed,
00:17:02feel overwhelmed.
00:17:03Why do they feel
00:17:04overwhelmed?
00:17:05Because if they're
00:17:06straining every fiber
00:17:07of their being
00:17:09to do things
00:17:10for those around them,
00:17:11then that creates
00:17:12an implicit
00:17:13and sometimes explicit
00:17:14obligation.
00:17:17So,
00:17:17some men,
00:17:19some women,
00:17:20maybe a bit more women,
00:17:21exaggerate
00:17:22their contributions
00:17:24in order to extract
00:17:26resources.
00:17:27They exaggerate
00:17:28their contributions
00:17:29in order to
00:17:30extract resources.
00:17:32and it's a
00:17:33tragically common
00:17:34phenomenon
00:17:36and
00:17:36if you look
00:17:38at
00:17:39I remember
00:17:40many years ago
00:17:41reading a book
00:17:41on the Canadian
00:17:42welfare state.
00:17:43I actually
00:17:44had sent out
00:17:45prospectus
00:17:46to publishers
00:17:46to write a book
00:17:47on the Canadian
00:17:48welfare state
00:17:49because I found
00:17:49it quite fascinating.
00:17:51Of course,
00:17:52I got no interest
00:17:52because I didn't
00:17:53realize that it's
00:17:54mostly communists
00:17:54running the publishing
00:17:55industry.
00:17:56That took me a while
00:17:56to figure that one out.
00:17:58freedoman.com
00:17:58slash books.
00:18:00You should check out
00:18:00the books.
00:18:01They're free.
00:18:01They're great.
00:18:03Tony the Tiger style.
00:18:05But I remember
00:18:06this guy
00:18:07who wrote a book
00:18:08on the Canadian
00:18:08welfare state
00:18:09that was very
00:18:09sympathetic
00:18:10and he was talking
00:18:11about how
00:18:11he would wake up
00:18:13as a kid.
00:18:14He was an old guy
00:18:15so this is,
00:18:15I guess,
00:18:16turn of the century,
00:18:17last century,
00:18:18early 1900s.
00:18:19He said that he would
00:18:19wake up at night
00:18:20and his mother
00:18:21would be sobbing
00:18:22as she did
00:18:23the laundry.
00:18:24You know,
00:18:25what do they call them?
00:18:25Washboard abs.
00:18:26Washboard abs
00:18:26because you would
00:18:27scrub your child's
00:18:29clothes,
00:18:29your children's clothes,
00:18:30your family's clothes
00:18:31on this washboard.
00:18:33Her clothes are old
00:18:34but never are they dirty.
00:18:37And his mother
00:18:37would be crying
00:18:38because she'd be
00:18:38having to do the laundry
00:18:39in the middle of the night.
00:18:40She was so tired
00:18:41and all of this,
00:18:42that and the other,
00:18:43right?
00:18:45Now,
00:18:45of course,
00:18:46if you look
00:18:47at the modern woman's
00:18:49child raising,
00:18:50on average,
00:18:51right?
00:18:51On average,
00:18:52what happens?
00:18:53Well,
00:18:54they've got to get up
00:18:55in the morning
00:18:56and they've got to
00:18:57make their kids
00:18:57some food
00:18:58but usually it's not
00:18:58a full-cooked breakfast
00:19:00and some toast,
00:19:02some Pop-Tarts,
00:19:03you know,
00:19:03that kind of crap.
00:19:05Well,
00:19:05toast isn't crap
00:19:05but Pop-Tarts
00:19:06certainly are.
00:19:07She gets up,
00:19:08she makes the kids
00:19:09some food,
00:19:10packs her lunch,
00:19:11maybe,
00:19:12and then puts them
00:19:13on the bus
00:19:14and,
00:19:15you know,
00:19:158 o'clock,
00:19:167.30,
00:19:178 o'clock,
00:19:17they're on the bus
00:19:18and she's a stay-at-home,
00:19:19right?
00:19:20So,
00:19:20what does she do?
00:19:21Well,
00:19:22she's got a dishwasher,
00:19:24she's got a vacuum cleaner.
00:19:26I still remember
00:19:26in my neighborhood
00:19:27growing up,
00:19:28this is before
00:19:28vacuum cleaners
00:19:29were common,
00:19:29I remember a guy
00:19:30coming to sell us
00:19:32a vacuum cleaner
00:19:32in an apartment.
00:19:33Oh,
00:19:33it cleans the carpets
00:19:34and I remember
00:19:35he was like,
00:19:36oh,
00:19:36go and talk to your mother,
00:19:37make her buy it,
00:19:37no real,
00:19:39real cheese bag,
00:19:40sleaze ball
00:19:40of a salesman
00:19:42and I remember
00:19:43when I was a kid,
00:19:44women would take
00:19:45their carpets out
00:19:46and hang them
00:19:46on their clotheslines
00:19:47and beat the dust
00:19:48out of them.
00:19:49That's what you had to do.
00:19:50You don't have to do
00:19:51that anymore.
00:19:53You got fridges,
00:19:54you got clean running water,
00:19:56you got air conditioning
00:19:57and heating in the winter.
00:19:59You don't have to go
00:20:00to the well,
00:20:00you don't have to boil the water,
00:20:01you don't have to build the fire,
00:20:02you don't have to get
00:20:03the firewood.
00:20:04When I was a kid,
00:20:06we used to get the milk
00:20:07delivered every morning,
00:20:08the milkman.
00:20:09Sting's father
00:20:09was a milkman.
00:20:10Sting used to go
00:20:10with his father
00:20:12to deliver the milk
00:20:13in the wee hours.
00:20:15Oh,
00:20:15it was great stuff too,
00:20:16man.
00:20:16You could do a little
00:20:17prick on the top
00:20:18of that foil
00:20:19and you could
00:20:19suck the cream
00:20:20off the top.
00:20:21Oh,
00:20:21so good.
00:20:23And so,
00:20:24yeah,
00:20:24your milk would be delivered
00:20:27and compare it
00:20:28to the Middle Ages.
00:20:30You've got
00:20:31flushing toilets.
00:20:32So you don't have to
00:20:33deal with an outhouse,
00:20:34you don't have to
00:20:35deal with any of that stuff.
00:20:36What did they always do
00:20:37in Dungeons & Dragons?
00:20:38There'd be some
00:20:39place in the castle
00:20:40with the water,
00:20:41with the river
00:20:42running underneath,
00:20:43like an underground river
00:20:44and you'd poop
00:20:44in a hole there
00:20:45in the water.
00:20:46Would take it all the way,
00:20:47Ganges style.
00:20:49And her kids are gone
00:20:51until,
00:20:52like from 7.30
00:20:53or 8 in the morning
00:20:54until 4 o'clock.
00:20:56Depends if they have
00:20:57after-school activities,
00:20:58but they're gone
00:20:59for most of the day.
00:21:00So she's not really
00:21:01raising her children
00:21:01that way,
00:21:02right?
00:21:03And then when the kids
00:21:03come home,
00:21:05you know,
00:21:05they've got homework
00:21:06for half an hour,
00:21:07hour,
00:21:07hour and a half,
00:21:08could be two hours.
00:21:09They've got to study
00:21:09for things,
00:21:10they've got all
00:21:10that kind of stuff.
00:21:12So she's not really
00:21:13doing much
00:21:14raising of the kids.
00:21:15She's not doing
00:21:16a whole lot of housework
00:21:17compared to what
00:21:18needed to be done
00:21:19in the past.
00:21:20I mean,
00:21:20the fact that she has
00:21:24washers and dryers,
00:21:25washers and dryers,
00:21:27amazing ones.
00:21:27They give her a ping
00:21:28on the phone
00:21:29when they're done,
00:21:30washers and dryers.
00:21:31I mean,
00:21:32women who are trying
00:21:33to oversell
00:21:34their sacrifice
00:21:35and service
00:21:36will talk about,
00:21:37well,
00:21:37I do the laundry
00:21:38and it's like,
00:21:38come on, man.
00:21:40You throw stuff in,
00:21:41you push a button
00:21:41and you have to fold it
00:21:42or you often will fold it.
00:21:44But you have to compare
00:21:46women's labor
00:21:47in the present
00:21:48with women's labor
00:21:49in the past
00:21:50and it's night and day.
00:21:52I mean,
00:21:53men are still working,
00:21:54you know,
00:21:54hour commute,
00:21:55eight hours a day,
00:21:56ten hours, right?
00:21:57Men are still working
00:21:58ten hours a day
00:21:59and the jobs
00:22:01have become easier.
00:22:02I get that.
00:22:03The jobs have become easier.
00:22:05But men are still
00:22:06working ten hours a day.
00:22:07Women,
00:22:07with all the labor
00:22:08saving devices,
00:22:09women used to have to do,
00:22:10you know,
00:22:11twelve hours a day,
00:22:12fourteen hours a day
00:22:12of just
00:22:13keeping everyone alive.
00:22:16No running water,
00:22:17no push-button fireplaces,
00:22:20no air conditioning,
00:22:21no laundry,
00:22:23no vacuum cleaners.
00:22:24I mean,
00:22:24the fight against dust
00:22:25and dust brings mites,
00:22:27the fight against rats,
00:22:28rats bring disease,
00:22:29mice.
00:22:30I mean,
00:22:30it was a constant battle.
00:22:32Constant battle.
00:22:33And women's
00:22:34work has shrunk.
00:22:36And it's a funny thing.
00:22:38The more
00:22:39women's work shrinks,
00:22:41the more,
00:22:42on average,
00:22:43women complain.
00:22:44There was a theory
00:22:46back in the day
00:22:46that women would say,
00:22:47well,
00:22:49one of the reasons
00:22:50we're not having kids
00:22:51is because men
00:22:52aren't doing enough
00:22:52housework.
00:22:53And if men did more
00:22:54housework,
00:22:54we'd be able to have
00:22:55more kids.
00:22:56And that turned out
00:22:58to be a lie.
00:22:59I mean,
00:23:00men's share of the
00:23:00housework since the
00:23:0280s and 90s
00:23:03has gone up
00:23:03two to three times.
00:23:05Men are doing much
00:23:05more child raising,
00:23:07men are doing much
00:23:07for my housework
00:23:08and the birth rate
00:23:09has gone down.
00:23:10So,
00:23:11that wasn't a thing.
00:23:13But it's often the case
00:23:14that as the work
00:23:15load goes down,
00:23:17the complaints
00:23:18about work
00:23:19go up.
00:23:20And
00:23:22I've often thought of
00:23:24it would be
00:23:25a fun short story
00:23:26to have a feminist
00:23:27or a woman
00:23:29complaining about
00:23:29her
00:23:30big housework day
00:23:32to awake
00:23:33as a washerwoman
00:23:35in the 14th century
00:23:36and see what that
00:23:37day was like
00:23:37and she would
00:23:38come back
00:23:38and kiss
00:23:39modernity
00:23:40and kiss
00:23:41the appliances
00:23:41and kiss
00:23:42the Roomba
00:23:42and all that
00:23:45kind of stuff.
00:23:46Kiss the washing
00:23:47machines.
00:23:48I mean,
00:23:49just not having
00:23:51dangerous
00:23:52bacteria
00:23:53and virus-laden
00:23:54dirt everywhere
00:23:54around.
00:23:55I mean,
00:23:56women had to
00:23:57beat the carpets
00:23:58because the carpets
00:23:59would get mites
00:23:59or ticks
00:24:00or they would
00:24:01go on the kids
00:24:01and it would
00:24:02be hell.
00:24:03You know,
00:24:04one day
00:24:04in the Middle Ages
00:24:06has you truly
00:24:06love everything
00:24:07about modernity.
00:24:09I say this
00:24:09when I go to
00:24:11the dentist
00:24:11every day.
00:24:12Does that hurt?
00:24:12I'm like,
00:24:12nope,
00:24:13you're just scraping
00:24:14and no,
00:24:14honestly,
00:24:15I love dentists.
00:24:15You guys do
00:24:16what you need
00:24:16to do
00:24:16because in the
00:24:18past,
00:24:18they would
00:24:19have had to,
00:24:20you know,
00:24:20like I had
00:24:21an ankylose tooth
00:24:22which is a tooth
00:24:22that was fused
00:24:23with the bone
00:24:23from when I was a kid.
00:24:25I had to have it
00:24:26removed
00:24:27and in the past,
00:24:29they would have
00:24:29had to try
00:24:30and rip it
00:24:30out of my jaw,
00:24:32break it,
00:24:32no anesthetic.
00:24:33I mean,
00:24:34it probably would
00:24:34have killed me.
00:24:35So,
00:24:37modern medicine,
00:24:38God love you guys.
00:24:39Modern dentistry,
00:24:40God love you all.
00:24:41Go read
00:24:42Angela's Ashes,
00:24:44the novel,
00:24:45Angela's Ashes
00:24:46to figure all
00:24:46that stuff out.
00:24:47So,
00:24:49some women,
00:24:50again,
00:24:50lazy people as a whole
00:24:51will always exaggerate
00:24:53the demands upon them.
00:24:55It's just too much.
00:24:56I'm just overwhelmed.
00:24:57I'm just this.
00:24:58No,
00:24:58it's just,
00:24:59women are very robust.
00:25:01Women hold us
00:25:02through a million years
00:25:03of brutal evolution
00:25:04with half their children
00:25:05dying before the age of five
00:25:07and work from morning
00:25:09until night
00:25:10and they did it
00:25:11and I had aunts like this
00:25:12when I was a kid.
00:25:13They did it with who,
00:25:14I mean,
00:25:15we lived in there
00:25:15or they lived
00:25:16and I lived there sometimes
00:25:19in country cottages
00:25:20in Ireland
00:25:22and it was a huge amount
00:25:24of work.
00:25:25Most of the modern amenities
00:25:26had not reached
00:25:28these country cottages.
00:25:29I also remember
00:25:30when a friend of mine
00:25:31had a cottage
00:25:32when I was a teenager.
00:25:33I posted some pictures
00:25:34of me chopping wood
00:25:35up there
00:25:37and the cottage,
00:25:39I mean,
00:25:40it was rough.
00:25:41No toilets,
00:25:42no air conditioning,
00:25:43heating was a fireplace,
00:25:44we all slept on the floor
00:25:46by the fire.
00:25:47I think there was running water
00:25:48but that was about it
00:25:51and the amount of work
00:25:52it took to maintain
00:25:53that cottage.
00:25:54I mean,
00:25:54I loved it.
00:25:55I always loved physical labor.
00:25:56I absolutely love physical labor.
00:25:59When I was in Africa,
00:26:00I would take the machetes
00:26:02and cut the way
00:26:03through the bush
00:26:03when I was out
00:26:04with my father
00:26:05doing his prospecting
00:26:08and mapping
00:26:08and so on
00:26:09that he was doing
00:26:09as a geologist.
00:26:10I love manual labor.
00:26:12I love digging,
00:26:13I love hacking things,
00:26:14I love chopping wood,
00:26:15that's just great.
00:26:16So I loved going up there
00:26:17and doing the manual labor
00:26:17but half the day
00:26:18was manual labor
00:26:19and half the day was play
00:26:20but for women,
00:26:21it was constant.
00:26:23I mean,
00:26:24the women up there,
00:26:24they had to make
00:26:25all these burgers
00:26:25and these salads
00:26:26and potato salads
00:26:27and then they had to
00:26:29clean and wash
00:26:30and they had to take
00:26:30the carpets out
00:26:32to beat them
00:26:32and this was in the 80s,
00:26:35early 80s.
00:26:37I mean,
00:26:38it was the backwoods
00:26:39of Canada
00:26:40so it's sort of
00:26:41a different planet
00:26:41as far as that goes.
00:26:43So yeah,
00:26:44it was a lot of work.
00:26:45Now it's pretty easy.
00:26:47It's pretty easy.
00:26:49Life in the modern world
00:26:50is easy
00:26:51and there's something funny
00:26:52about the birth rate
00:26:54goes down
00:26:55when life is less harsh
00:26:57and this is for obvious
00:26:58biological reasons.
00:26:59When life is really harsh,
00:27:00a lot of your kids
00:27:01are going to die
00:27:02so you have the urge
00:27:02to have a lot of kids.
00:27:04When life is easy,
00:27:06case-elected organisms
00:27:07generally slow
00:27:08their reproduction
00:27:09or nature slows
00:27:09their reproduction.
00:27:12Stress breeds
00:27:13a very high sex drive
00:27:15and ease lowers,
00:27:17I mean,
00:27:18you could say
00:27:18lowers your sex drive,
00:27:19certainly lowers
00:27:19your reproductive drive.
00:27:22So one of the biggest
00:27:23psyops in the world
00:27:24has been
00:27:25as life has gotten easier
00:27:26and easier
00:27:27and easier for women
00:27:28to the point where,
00:27:29again,
00:27:29you take some woman's
00:27:30great-great-grandmother,
00:27:31take her forward
00:27:32to the average day
00:27:33and they'd be like,
00:27:33it's magical,
00:27:34it's a miracle.
00:27:35They've been transported
00:27:36into the world
00:27:37of the Jetsons.
00:27:38What, you just,
00:27:39you have a freezer?
00:27:41You have a fridge?
00:27:42You have a robot
00:27:43that cleans your carpets?
00:27:44You just push a button
00:27:46and cool air comes out?
00:27:47Are you insane
00:27:48that you should,
00:27:49oh, this is unbelievable.
00:27:52This is Patrick's dishwasher?
00:27:54I can't tell you
00:27:55the amount of fights
00:27:55my brother and I had
00:27:56is whose turn it was
00:27:58to do the dishes
00:27:58of growing up.
00:28:00And I always remember
00:28:00I used to have
00:28:01this business idea
00:28:02when I was a kid,
00:28:03like,
00:28:04because it wasn't too bad
00:28:05doing the plates
00:28:06but all the endless cutlery
00:28:07was a real drag
00:28:07and I thought,
00:28:08well, you know,
00:28:08what if you could just
00:28:09make a dishwasher
00:28:10just for cutlery,
00:28:10just for people in apartments?
00:28:12It'd be pretty nice.
00:28:14But, yeah,
00:28:15just look around.
00:28:17Just look around.
00:28:17You've got food
00:28:18that you can store
00:28:19pretty much forever
00:28:21and you can get food
00:28:23delivered at any time.
00:28:24That wasn't a thing
00:28:25when I was a kid.
00:28:26And they'd say,
00:28:27you live in paradise.
00:28:30You can keep in touch
00:28:31with distant relatives,
00:28:32not with letters
00:28:33that take a month
00:28:33but with instant video calls
00:28:35pretty much for free.
00:28:37It's incredible.
00:28:39And the women
00:28:40from the past
00:28:41who zipped forward
00:28:42through time
00:28:42to the present
00:28:43would look at their
00:28:44great-great-great-granddaughters
00:28:45claiming to be
00:28:46overwhelmed
00:28:47and stressed
00:28:47and burdened
00:28:48and you'd be like,
00:28:50okay, let's switch.
00:28:51Let's do a wife swap
00:28:52through time.
00:28:55And the overburdened women
00:28:56would probably be happier
00:28:57in the past.
00:28:59If you have time
00:28:59to complain,
00:29:01you have too much time.
00:29:05So what women have done,
00:29:07of course,
00:29:07if they've said,
00:29:09because they want
00:29:11political participation,
00:29:12they want the vote,
00:29:13they want all of this,
00:29:14they want welfare,
00:29:15they want,
00:29:15you know,
00:29:16the welfare state
00:29:16is just a way
00:29:17of stripping money
00:29:19from men
00:29:19and in particular
00:29:21responsible men
00:29:21and giving it
00:29:22to irresponsible men
00:29:24and mostly women.
00:29:26And so they want to vote
00:29:27and they want a bunch
00:29:28of government spending
00:29:29on them
00:29:30and they don't want
00:29:31to be drafted,
00:29:31of course.
00:29:33So what do they say?
00:29:35Well, they have to say
00:29:36that their lives
00:29:36are these big,
00:29:37massive burdens,
00:29:38that raising children
00:29:39is this big,
00:29:39giant,
00:29:39massive burden
00:29:41and they're owed
00:29:43everything
00:29:44because
00:29:46they've sacrificed
00:29:46so much
00:29:47and they work so hard
00:29:48and they're so overwhelmed
00:29:49and ha, ha, ha,
00:29:50right?
00:29:51Gimme, gimme, gimme!
00:29:52There's lots
00:29:54of ways
00:29:54to extract resources
00:29:56from people.
00:29:57The tremble-voiced,
00:29:59on-the-edge shakedown
00:30:00is one of the most effective.
00:30:02It doesn't work for men.
00:30:05You know,
00:30:05go to your boss
00:30:06if you're a man
00:30:07on a construction site,
00:30:08go to your boss
00:30:09with a quivering voice
00:30:10and say,
00:30:10I feel overwhelmed
00:30:12by, by,
00:30:13let me just laugh at you.
00:30:14Then they get back to work
00:30:15or get lost.
00:30:16And of course,
00:30:17a man doesn't get
00:30:18to refuse the draft
00:30:18by saying he's just
00:30:20overwhelmed.
00:30:23It's a good shakedown.
00:30:24Now,
00:30:25it comes at a huge cost.
00:30:26So,
00:30:27women have to portray
00:30:28raising children
00:30:28as a big giant burden
00:30:29that's somehow equivalent
00:30:31to getting your
00:30:32face blown off
00:30:33by some Iranian-made
00:30:35draft in Ukraine.
00:30:36Right?
00:30:37They'd have to say
00:30:37that raising children
00:30:38is like going to war.
00:30:40Oh,
00:30:41my God.
00:30:42That is wild.
00:30:44Especially in the modern world
00:30:45where there's not
00:30:46a whole lot of child
00:30:47raising going on.
00:30:48There's school,
00:30:49there's iPads,
00:30:50there's friends,
00:30:51there's videos,
00:30:52there's Chuck E. Cheese,
00:30:53there's arcades,
00:30:54there's like,
00:30:56I mean,
00:30:57there's not a whole lot
00:30:58of child raising going on.
00:31:00I mean,
00:31:00I've asked hundreds of people
00:31:02over the last 21 years
00:31:03and hundreds of thousands
00:31:05online,
00:31:06what are the big moral lessons
00:31:07that your parents gave you
00:31:08that you still find a value
00:31:09to this day?
00:31:10Or any life lessons
00:31:11and nobody's got a thing?
00:31:13Nothing.
00:31:13I mean,
00:31:14it's really not much
00:31:15child raising going on
00:31:16at the moment.
00:31:17Your child's being raised
00:31:18by the internet,
00:31:20which is why women
00:31:21who won't raise their children
00:31:22freak out about
00:31:24misogynistic podcasts.
00:31:25Nah,
00:31:26podcasts are the
00:31:28rebels
00:31:28and
00:31:29the mainstream media
00:31:30is the empire.
00:31:32Pew pew.
00:31:33Well,
00:31:34if you don't raise your kids,
00:31:35someone's going to have
00:31:36to raise them.
00:31:37You know,
00:31:38I just don't feed my children
00:31:39and then I'm concerned
00:31:40that they're getting food
00:31:41from strangers.
00:31:42Well,
00:31:43they've got to eat,
00:31:43right?
00:31:44Kids got to be raised somehow.
00:31:45If you're not raising them,
00:31:47they'll turn online.
00:31:48Somewhere,
00:31:49they've got to get their food
00:31:49from somewhere,
00:31:50right?
00:31:51Can't starve to death.
00:31:52So women
00:31:53have
00:31:54psyoped society
00:31:55into believing
00:31:56that raising children
00:31:57is this big giant burden
00:31:58for which they deserve
00:31:59every consideration,
00:32:01trillions and trillions
00:32:02and trillions of dollars
00:32:03in free stuff,
00:32:05exclusion from the draft
00:32:06because we're raising children.
00:32:09And
00:32:10they get all this free stuff
00:32:11because men
00:32:12are
00:32:13emotionally driven
00:32:14to give resources
00:32:15to women
00:32:15who are on the edge.
00:32:17Because if women
00:32:18are on the edge,
00:32:19they might run away
00:32:21and you have no one
00:32:22to raise your children.
00:32:23They might
00:32:23kill the children.
00:32:24They might
00:32:25make your life hell
00:32:26and destroy your capacity
00:32:27to work
00:32:28and make an income
00:32:29because a man out there
00:32:30battling in the world
00:32:31surely does not want
00:32:32to come home
00:32:32with some bipolar disorder
00:32:33battling woman.
00:32:35Then
00:32:37taking a
00:32:37long walk
00:32:38off a short cliff
00:32:39becomes pretty tempting.
00:32:41So
00:32:41appeasing
00:32:42women who are
00:32:43on the edge
00:32:44is kind of baked
00:32:44into men's
00:32:45DNA.
00:32:46It's a very powerful
00:32:47weapon.
00:32:48And
00:32:49it's an unfair
00:32:50weapon
00:32:50in general.
00:32:51I mean,
00:32:52unless you are
00:32:52in the 12th century
00:32:54with 12 children
00:32:54and even then
00:32:55there's not a lot
00:32:55of complaints
00:32:56from women
00:32:58or men.
00:32:59All life sucked
00:33:00throughout history.
00:33:01Compared to modern standards,
00:33:03all life sucked
00:33:04throughout human history
00:33:06for everyone,
00:33:07even the wealthy.
00:33:08Well,
00:33:09perhaps even
00:33:09especially the wealthy
00:33:10because they were drafted
00:33:10for wars at a higher rate
00:33:12than the average,
00:33:13as my ancestors knew,
00:33:15in Ireland.
00:33:17So women have
00:33:19cranked up
00:33:19how difficult it is.
00:33:20Now,
00:33:21I've been a stay-at-home dad.
00:33:22My daughter's going to be
00:33:2218 this year,
00:33:23so I've been a stay-at-home dad
00:33:25for over 17 years.
00:33:26And people say,
00:33:27ah, yes,
00:33:28well,
00:33:28you only have one child.
00:33:29It's like,
00:33:29well,
00:33:29that's true,
00:33:30but in some ways
00:33:30that's more of a challenge
00:33:32because your child
00:33:33only has you
00:33:34to play with.
00:33:35I'm not complaining
00:33:36about that.
00:33:37It's been a blast,
00:33:38but it's just kind of a fact.
00:33:40But raising children
00:33:40is a blast.
00:33:41Raising children
00:33:42is really enjoyable.
00:33:44Raising children
00:33:46is just about
00:33:47the greatest experience
00:33:48in life.
00:33:49It really is.
00:33:50And,
00:33:51I mean,
00:33:52you've heard this
00:33:52sometimes on shows
00:33:53where my daughter
00:33:54has done a show
00:33:55with me.
00:33:56Sometimes,
00:33:57I mean,
00:33:58at least,
00:33:58at least a couple
00:33:59of times a week
00:34:00we're laughing so hard
00:34:00that the milk
00:34:02comes out our nose.
00:34:03Compare that
00:34:04to being drafted.
00:34:05It's insane.
00:34:06And I
00:34:08have homeschooled
00:34:10and I've been at home
00:34:12so it's a lot of time.
00:34:13And I did work
00:34:14in a daycare for years
00:34:15when I was younger
00:34:16and took kids
00:34:17all over the place.
00:34:19Myself and one other teacher
00:34:20would take 25 to 30 kids
00:34:21all over the place
00:34:23in the summers.
00:34:25The kids were aged
00:34:265 to 10
00:34:26and it was a blast.
00:34:29It was a blast.
00:34:31So,
00:34:32the idea
00:34:34that raising children
00:34:35is somehow equivalent
00:34:37to being forced
00:34:38into war
00:34:40is so far
00:34:41beyond comprehension
00:34:42for anybody
00:34:43with any ounce of sense
00:34:45that it truly
00:34:46staggers the imagination
00:34:47that people would even
00:34:48remotely make this claim.
00:34:50Amazing.
00:34:51And what happens,
00:34:52of course,
00:34:53is that
00:34:54women do get
00:34:55a bunch of stuff
00:34:56because they're
00:34:57overwhelmed
00:34:57and it's so hard
00:34:58and you don't know
00:34:59and rub their temples
00:35:00and,
00:35:01oh,
00:35:01it was really difficult here
00:35:02and they get
00:35:04concessions
00:35:05because they're
00:35:06on the edge.
00:35:06It's a form of
00:35:08soft emotional terrorism
00:35:09in my view
00:35:11and so they get
00:35:12a bunch of resources.
00:35:13The problem is,
00:35:15though,
00:35:16that by constantly
00:35:17broadcasting out
00:35:17into the world
00:35:18how difficult,
00:35:20unpleasant,
00:35:21overwhelming,
00:35:21isolating,
00:35:22problematic,
00:35:23conflict-ridden
00:35:25the parenting is,
00:35:27they're constantly
00:35:28spraying out
00:35:29to the world
00:35:29and to the next generation
00:35:31and to the next generation
00:35:32to their kids
00:35:34that parenting sucks.
00:35:36I mean,
00:35:36come on,
00:35:37it just takes a moment.
00:35:38If parenting sucked,
00:35:40how could we have
00:35:41survived as a species?
00:35:42Say,
00:35:42ah,
00:35:43yes,
00:35:43well,
00:35:43there was no birth control.
00:35:44Yeah,
00:35:44but killing kids
00:35:45was pretty easy
00:35:46in the past.
00:35:48We couldn't have survived.
00:35:49Like,
00:35:50if we had not evolved
00:35:51to enjoy parenting,
00:35:53we could not have survived
00:35:55as a species.
00:35:56We could not,
00:35:57even if the parenting
00:35:58enjoyment is simply
00:35:59biochemically programmed
00:36:00in the way that it is,
00:36:01with birds.
00:36:02But,
00:36:03yeah,
00:36:03all the oxytocin
00:36:04and the happiness
00:36:04and the closeness
00:36:05and the,
00:36:06I mean,
00:36:07in nature,
00:36:08fathers will fight
00:36:09to the death
00:36:10to protect their families.
00:36:11They enjoy sex,
00:36:12of course,
00:36:13they enjoy the companionship,
00:36:14they enjoy play,
00:36:16fighting with their kids
00:36:17and all of that.
00:36:18And there's great affection
00:36:19you can see
00:36:20in animals,
00:36:21particularly,
00:36:22of course,
00:36:22as I mentioned,
00:36:22the case-elected animals,
00:36:23the predators,
00:36:25because they have to bond
00:36:26with and train their children
00:36:27on how to be a predator
00:36:28because being a predator
00:36:30is a whole lot more
00:36:31cognitively challenging
00:36:32than being prey.
00:36:34So,
00:36:34of course,
00:36:34we evolved
00:36:35to enjoy parenting.
00:36:36We could not have evolved
00:36:37in any other way,
00:36:39but we also evolved
00:36:41to whine and complain
00:36:42in order to get
00:36:43additional resources
00:36:44because this is a dual strategy
00:36:46for women,
00:36:48right?
00:36:48Positive incentives,
00:36:49negative incentives,
00:36:51rewards and punishments.
00:36:53The woman encourages the man,
00:36:55supports the man,
00:36:56and he goes out into the world
00:36:57with that support
00:36:58and that encouragement,
00:36:59conquers more,
00:37:00gets more,
00:37:01gets more resources.
00:37:01She's thrilled and happy,
00:37:03praises him,
00:37:03and she gets more resources
00:37:05that way.
00:37:06Of course,
00:37:06the other way
00:37:07that she gets resources
00:37:07is to nag and complain
00:37:09and bitch and moan
00:37:10until he's just like,
00:37:11oh, fine,
00:37:11just take it.
00:37:13And then she smugly smiles
00:37:15and gets her resources.
00:37:16It's a pretty sad strategy,
00:37:17but it certainly is viable.
00:37:20So,
00:37:20women have been getting resources
00:37:22by complaining about parenting
00:37:23and complaining about
00:37:24running a household
00:37:25and complaining about
00:37:26being home
00:37:26and complaining about
00:37:28it cost me money
00:37:29and right?
00:37:31Yeah.
00:37:32Yeah,
00:37:32try raising your kids
00:37:33in the woods
00:37:34in the middle of nowhere.
00:37:36That's what it's like
00:37:37to be without money.
00:37:39Raising kids
00:37:39with a husband
00:37:40who pays the bills
00:37:41or the government
00:37:41that pays the bills
00:37:43with all modern conveniences
00:37:45that can be imagined
00:37:48is not even
00:37:49in the same category.
00:37:50And so,
00:37:51yeah,
00:37:51so some complainy women,
00:37:53again,
00:37:53this is far from all women,
00:37:54but some complainy women
00:37:56have gotten a bunch
00:37:57of resources
00:37:57by exaggerating
00:37:58what a burden it is
00:38:00to be pregnant,
00:38:00to raise children,
00:38:01to have children.
00:38:02Oh,
00:38:02it's so difficult.
00:38:04And they get resources,
00:38:05but it kills the birth rate
00:38:07because the children
00:38:08grow up feeling like a burden
00:38:09and they grow up
00:38:09with the impression,
00:38:11or more than an impression,
00:38:12they grow up
00:38:13with the empirical fat
00:38:14coming from their parents
00:38:16and in particular
00:38:17from their mothers
00:38:18that parenting is a burden.
00:38:20The parenting is negative,
00:38:22the kids are hassle,
00:38:23right?
00:38:24There was a study
00:38:24that came out
00:38:25where it was like,
00:38:27you know,
00:38:29babies take somewhere
00:38:30between 300 and 400 hours
00:38:34of sleep
00:38:35from their parents
00:38:36in the first year.
00:38:37Yeah,
00:38:38that's true.
00:38:39But also,
00:38:40the time that you spend
00:38:41chatting with and playing
00:38:43with your baby
00:38:43in the wee hours
00:38:44is some of my
00:38:46favorite memories in life.
00:38:48Some of my favorite
00:38:49memories in life.
00:38:51Chatting with my daughter
00:38:52when she was
00:38:52very young,
00:38:54just learning language,
00:38:56standing by the window,
00:38:57it was a beautiful,
00:38:58cloudless night,
00:38:59full moon was out.
00:39:01I look at the moon,
00:39:02I look at her eyes,
00:39:03I see the little tiny pinprick
00:39:05of silver light
00:39:06in her eyes
00:39:07as the moon
00:39:08is reflected
00:39:08off her eyeball,
00:39:09and she says moon
00:39:11and points.
00:39:13It's a beautiful memory
00:39:14that the word moon
00:39:16formed in her mind
00:39:17at the same time
00:39:19as I could see
00:39:20as it looked
00:39:21deep into her brain
00:39:22and see the tiny
00:39:24pinprick of moon
00:39:24on her mind.
00:39:26And she got the word moon
00:39:28and said it.
00:39:29Ah,
00:39:30the quiet times at night
00:39:32when you're chatting
00:39:33and playing with the baby
00:39:34in the wee hours,
00:39:35beautiful.
00:39:36I mean,
00:39:36yeah,
00:39:36you're tired the next day,
00:39:37so what?
00:39:38I mean,
00:39:39you've got the rest of eternity
00:39:40to rest after you're dead.
00:39:42It's such a burden,
00:39:44overwhelmed.
00:39:45And the other thing,
00:39:46of course,
00:39:46is that the overwhelmed thing
00:39:48generally becomes
00:39:49even more of a problem
00:39:51because if your mother
00:39:52is stressed
00:39:53and overwhelmed,
00:39:54then it's more likely
00:39:56that you did not get
00:39:58good resources as a child.
00:40:00You didn't get warmth
00:40:01and comfort
00:40:01and connection
00:40:03and closeness
00:40:04and happiness
00:40:04and love,
00:40:05and so then
00:40:06your emotions
00:40:09are stripped bare
00:40:10and stressed
00:40:11and all of that,
00:40:12so it then becomes
00:40:13a self-fulfilling prophecy
00:40:14that if your mother
00:40:15feels that you're
00:40:16some big giant burden
00:40:17that she complains about
00:40:18in order to extract
00:40:19more resources
00:40:20from men
00:40:21either directly
00:40:21or through the state,
00:40:23that you grow up
00:40:23feeling like a burden
00:40:25and then you,
00:40:25when you become a mother,
00:40:27if you become a mother,
00:40:28you feel that children
00:40:28are a burden,
00:40:29you're stressed,
00:40:30so it just becomes
00:40:31a self-fulfilling prophecy.
00:40:33Parenting,
00:40:34art,
00:40:34philosophy,
00:40:35and love
00:40:35are the four corners
00:40:36of the most beautiful
00:40:37experiences of my life.
00:40:39I would trade them
00:40:39for nothing.
00:40:40I gave up writing books
00:40:41for over 10 years.
00:40:42Could have written
00:40:4320 more books.
00:40:43I was writing
00:40:44two books a year.
00:40:45Why do I care
00:40:46about 20 books?
00:40:47I'm not a human being.
00:40:49I'm happy.
00:40:50I'm healthy.
00:40:51I'm a human being.
00:40:53Two out of three
00:40:54ain't bad.
00:40:55So, yeah,
00:40:56pretty sad state of debate.
00:40:58Now, also,
00:40:58last thing I'll say
00:40:59and then I'll get
00:40:59to the call
00:40:59is thank you
00:41:00for your patience.
00:41:00I mean,
00:41:01we know,
00:41:02we know
00:41:02that parenting
00:41:03is way better
00:41:04than going to war.
00:41:06How do we know that?
00:41:07Because,
00:41:08because,
00:41:10because
00:41:12when women
00:41:13are about to be sent
00:41:13to the front,
00:41:14they just get pregnant.
00:41:15I mean,
00:41:16we know this empirically.
00:41:17It's not complicated.
00:41:18Just look at what people do.
00:41:19So, the idea
00:41:20that you would compare
00:41:21parenting
00:41:22to being bombed,
00:41:25shot at,
00:41:26traumatized,
00:41:27holding people's
00:41:28innards,
00:41:29trying to stuff
00:41:29intestines back
00:41:30into somebody's
00:41:31body cavity
00:41:31as you wait
00:41:32for the chopper
00:41:33to airlift them.
00:41:34The idea that you
00:41:35would compare
00:41:36cuddling and playing
00:41:37with babies,
00:41:37toddlers,
00:41:38and children
00:41:39to watching
00:41:40friends with
00:41:41half a face
00:41:41die in your arms
00:41:42takes a kind
00:41:44of sickness
00:41:45that's hard
00:41:45to even comprehend.
00:41:47Women make
00:41:48their sacrifices,
00:41:49they get pregnant.
00:41:50Anyway.
00:41:51All right.
00:41:51Thank you for your patience.
00:41:52Please push back
00:41:53against this propaganda
00:41:54and call out,
00:41:56call out the people
00:41:57who are complaining
00:41:57about parenthood.
00:41:58Call them out.
00:41:59Say no.
00:42:00If you're not
00:42:01enjoying parenting,
00:42:02that's on you.
00:42:03You're like a sour
00:42:04person
00:42:05at a theme park.
00:42:07I,
00:42:08I was,
00:42:08you were talking
00:42:09about modernity
00:42:10earlier and I,
00:42:11I totally
00:42:11agree with you,
00:42:13especially on the
00:42:14feminism point,
00:42:15but with me
00:42:17specifically,
00:42:18I don't know
00:42:18how close you
00:42:19are to this,
00:42:20but I remember
00:42:21dial-up growing
00:42:21up as a kid
00:42:22and sitting in
00:42:24front of the
00:42:24computer waiting
00:42:2545 minutes
00:42:26for internet
00:42:26connection.
00:42:28Oh yeah,
00:42:29the,
00:42:29don't,
00:42:30don't pick up
00:42:30the phone.
00:42:31I'm on the line.
00:42:31I'm on,
00:42:32I'm downloading.
00:42:33Right.
00:42:33Yeah.
00:42:34Yeah.
00:42:34Yeah.
00:42:35It was,
00:42:36I wouldn't,
00:42:37I wouldn't want
00:42:38to go back
00:42:38to the 90s
00:42:39for anything.
00:42:40Uh,
00:42:41so I imagine
00:42:42the middle
00:42:42ages was,
00:42:43was very
00:42:44difficult.
00:42:45Uh,
00:42:46people dying
00:42:46all the time,
00:42:48childbirth and
00:42:49all that.
00:42:50Yeah.
00:42:50It was a sort
00:42:51of vicious cycle
00:42:51that happened
00:42:52throughout a lot
00:42:53of the ancient
00:42:54world in particular
00:42:55in the dark
00:42:56ages and in
00:42:58the time of
00:42:59plague,
00:43:00which came in
00:43:01successive waves
00:43:02in the early
00:43:03part of the
00:43:04middle ages.
00:43:05And what
00:43:05happened was
00:43:06life was so
00:43:08horrifying that
00:43:09people lived for
00:43:10the afterlife and
00:43:11because they lived
00:43:12for the afterlife,
00:43:13they didn't work
00:43:14that much in
00:43:15investing to make
00:43:15things better.
00:43:16It's kind of a
00:43:16vicious cycle that
00:43:17took down a lot
00:43:18of human history.
00:43:19Life was so
00:43:19appalling.
00:43:20Life was so
00:43:21painful,
00:43:21so difficult,
00:43:23so unpleasant,
00:43:24so,
00:43:24I mean,
00:43:24itchy.
00:43:24I mean,
00:43:25you'd have to
00:43:25kiss women
00:43:26who'd never
00:43:26brushed their
00:43:26teeth and
00:43:27it's not like
00:43:28they didn't
00:43:28know about
00:43:28honey.
00:43:29So it
00:43:29wasn't like,
00:43:29well,
00:43:29no sugar,
00:43:30so no tooth
00:43:30decay.
00:43:31And you would
00:43:31have to make
00:43:32love to a
00:43:32woman who
00:43:33hadn't bathed
00:43:33in six months.
00:43:34I mean,
00:43:34life was pretty
00:43:35unpleasant.
00:43:35So the idea
00:43:36that comes out
00:43:37of a lot of
00:43:37Christianity that
00:43:38the body is
00:43:40hell,
00:43:41that it's run
00:43:41by Satan,
00:43:42that the flesh
00:43:43is weak and
00:43:44corrupt and
00:43:44bad and wrong,
00:43:45it's like,
00:43:45well,
00:43:45yeah,
00:43:45you had constant
00:43:46pustules and
00:43:47infections and
00:43:49toothaches and
00:43:50like your body
00:43:50was like a
00:43:51torture chamber.
00:43:52And so you
00:43:53yearned for
00:43:53release,
00:43:54you learned for
00:43:55the half kiss
00:43:56of easeful death
00:43:57and because you
00:43:58yearned for release
00:43:59and life was so
00:43:59unpleasant,
00:44:00you didn't invest
00:44:00too much in
00:44:01making it better.
00:44:02Life was like
00:44:04a flop house
00:44:05that you were
00:44:06just staying in
00:44:07for a couple
00:44:07of nights.
00:44:08You don't work
00:44:09to improve it,
00:44:09you don't paint
00:44:10it,
00:44:10you don't fix
00:44:11out the
00:44:12furniture,
00:44:12you don't fix
00:44:13the windows,
00:44:13you're just like
00:44:14any more than
00:44:15you change the
00:44:15oil in the car
00:44:16you've rented.
00:44:17So life was
00:44:17short,
00:44:18difficult,
00:44:19ugly,
00:44:20unpleasant and
00:44:21so people lived
00:44:22for the other
00:44:23world,
00:44:23the higher world,
00:44:24the after world
00:44:25and did not
00:44:25invest in
00:44:26improving things
00:44:27in the here
00:44:28and now and
00:44:28life just had
00:44:29to get a
00:44:29little bit
00:44:30better in order
00:44:31for people to
00:44:31recognize that
00:44:32they were going
00:44:32to stay in
00:44:33the flop house
00:44:33and they
00:44:33could fix
00:44:34it and
00:44:34then they
00:44:34started to
00:44:35but that
00:44:35was sort
00:44:36of the
00:44:36beginning
00:44:36of the
00:44:37enlightenment.
00:44:38So is there
00:44:39anything else
00:44:39you wanted
00:44:39to mention?
00:44:41Just with
00:44:41music,
00:44:43music was the
00:44:43same thing
00:44:44for me as
00:44:44well.
00:44:45I mean,
00:44:45we used to
00:44:46have iPods
00:44:47and CD
00:44:48players and
00:44:49then the
00:44:50technocrats
00:44:51got wise
00:44:52and finally
00:44:52just said,
00:44:53we're just
00:44:54going to put
00:44:54everything on
00:44:55a phone.
00:44:58all right.
00:45:00Well, I
00:45:00appreciate that.
00:45:01Thank you
00:45:01very much
00:45:02and I
00:45:03guess you
00:45:03can go
00:45:03back to
00:45:03Aaron's.
00:45:05Vanilla,
00:45:05Vanilla,
00:45:06Vanilla,
00:45:08if you would
00:45:08like to
00:45:08unmute.
00:45:09Hello.
00:45:10Yes,
00:45:11hello.
00:45:11I'm not
00:45:12sure what
00:45:12happened.
00:45:13Did the
00:45:13other guy
00:45:13get disconnected?
00:45:15No, he
00:45:16just didn't
00:45:16have a huge
00:45:16amount to
00:45:17say, so I
00:45:17thought I
00:45:18would move
00:45:18on to you.
00:45:19Oh, all
00:45:20right.
00:45:21Would you
00:45:21mind if I
00:45:22just play
00:45:23devil's advocate
00:45:23regarding the
00:45:25work of
00:45:25women?
00:45:26Yeah.
00:45:27Please do.
00:45:29All right.
00:45:29So what I
00:45:30want to say
00:45:31is women
00:45:33in general
00:45:34don't just
00:45:35do domestic
00:45:36work anymore.
00:45:38And many
00:45:39women also
00:45:39have a
00:45:40nine to
00:45:40five.
00:45:41Go on.
00:45:42I mean, yes,
00:45:43I'm aware, but
00:45:44so go on with
00:45:44your point.
00:45:45So I don't
00:45:46think it is
00:45:48quite appropriate
00:45:49to compare
00:45:51them to
00:45:51earlier times
00:45:52where they
00:45:52only did
00:45:53domestic work.
00:45:54Okay.
00:45:56I understand
00:45:57that a lot
00:45:58of women
00:45:58have jobs.
00:45:59I was
00:45:59talking about
00:45:59the women
00:46:00who were
00:46:00staying home
00:46:01complaining
00:46:02about motherhood,
00:46:03but I'm
00:46:03certainly happy
00:46:04to talk about
00:46:05women who
00:46:05have jobs
00:46:06if you
00:46:06want.
00:46:08All right.
00:46:09We can do
00:46:09that.
00:46:10Okay.
00:46:11So what
00:46:12country are
00:46:13you from?
00:46:13I'm from
00:46:14South Africa.
00:46:15Okay.
00:46:15I've actually
00:46:16talked before.
00:46:17Yes.
00:46:17No, I
00:46:18know.
00:46:18I just
00:46:18couldn't.
00:46:18I mean, I
00:46:19didn't want
00:46:19to guess
00:46:20from the
00:46:20accent.
00:46:21And do you
00:46:22still live
00:46:22there?
00:46:23Yeah.
00:46:23Okay.
00:46:24Yeah.
00:46:25All right.
00:46:25So what
00:46:27percentage of
00:46:28the average
00:46:29women's wages
00:46:31goes towards
00:46:32child care?
00:46:33Let's say if
00:46:34she has two
00:46:34children, what
00:46:36percentage of
00:46:37her wages is
00:46:39going towards
00:46:40child care?
00:46:41I have no
00:46:42idea.
00:46:43I can't believe
00:46:43that.
00:46:43No, I mean,
00:46:44there's no way
00:46:44you would know
00:46:45that.
00:46:45And I've
00:46:45actually done
00:46:46these calculations
00:46:46for some
00:46:48books and
00:46:48it depends
00:46:49on the
00:46:49place and
00:46:50there's a
00:46:50variety of
00:46:50different factors.
00:46:51It depends
00:46:51on the
00:46:52woman's
00:46:52income.
00:46:52If she's a
00:46:53brain surgeon,
00:46:54that's different
00:46:54and if she's
00:46:55a waitress.
00:46:56But in
00:46:56general, most
00:46:58of women's
00:46:59money that
00:47:00they make in
00:47:01the workforce
00:47:01goes towards
00:47:03child care and
00:47:04the costs of
00:47:06working.
00:47:07So if a
00:47:08woman makes,
00:47:10you know,
00:47:10$4,000 a
00:47:11month, you
00:47:12know, that's
00:47:12close to $50,000
00:47:13a year.
00:47:14That's a
00:47:14decent income,
00:47:15but she pays
00:47:16a lot of it
00:47:16in taxes, so
00:47:17she gets much
00:47:18less in take-home
00:47:19pay.
00:47:20And let's
00:47:21say that she
00:47:22is only taxed
00:47:23at, I don't
00:47:24know, 25% or
00:47:25whatever, so
00:47:25she's taking
00:47:26home $3,000.
00:47:28And then she
00:47:29has to pay for,
00:47:32they usually have
00:47:32to have a second
00:47:33car because they're
00:47:35both commuting,
00:47:36and that's
00:47:36expensive.
00:47:37She has to have
00:47:38work outfits,
00:47:38they need dry
00:47:39cleaning, she has
00:47:40to get beauty and
00:47:41hair products, and
00:47:42she has to get
00:47:42stockings, and
00:47:43all of the kind
00:47:44of stuff she
00:47:44has for being a
00:47:45woman in the
00:47:46workforce, and
00:47:47then they have
00:47:48to pay for, you
00:47:50know, maintenance
00:47:50and gas and
00:47:51insurance and all
00:47:52of that on the
00:47:53second car.
00:47:55And she often
00:47:57will buy lunches
00:47:57out, and so
00:47:59that's an
00:48:00additional expense,
00:48:01and so of the
00:48:03$3,000, a lot
00:48:04of it gets
00:48:05consumed by the
00:48:06costs of having
00:48:08a job.
00:48:09And so it gets
00:48:11a little bit
00:48:11closer to $2,000
00:48:13and then for a
00:48:14lot of women
00:48:15having two
00:48:15kids in
00:48:17childcare is
00:48:18about $2,000.
00:48:19Could be $1,500,
00:48:20could be $2,000.
00:48:22But in terms of
00:48:23the actual profit
00:48:25that she's making
00:48:26from working, it's
00:48:27very little.
00:48:28It's usually not
00:48:29more than a few
00:48:30dollars an hour.
00:48:31And so the
00:48:32question is,
00:48:34particularly when
00:48:34the children are
00:48:35young, so if a
00:48:36woman has two
00:48:36children, let's
00:48:37say spaced two
00:48:37years apart, she
00:48:39should at least
00:48:40take them to the
00:48:41age of six.
00:48:42Because, you
00:48:43know, they'll
00:48:43often start
00:48:43school at the
00:48:44age of five, but
00:48:46you don't just
00:48:46want to have
00:48:47your kids go to
00:48:48school and then
00:48:49immediately go to
00:48:50work, because who's
00:48:51going to take care of
00:48:51your kids after
00:48:53school?
00:48:53School ends at
00:48:543.30, you're
00:48:55often not getting
00:48:55home until six
00:48:56o'clock if you work
00:48:57until five and have
00:48:58an hour commute.
00:48:59And also, you don't
00:49:00want to just dump
00:49:01your kids straight
00:49:01into after-school
00:49:04care programs and
00:49:05so on, because
00:49:05they're adjusting to
00:49:06school and you need
00:49:07to talk them through
00:49:08it and ask them
00:49:10what's going on if
00:49:11they're being
00:49:11bullied.
00:49:11You know, you need
00:49:12to stay close to
00:49:12your kids when they
00:49:13go through a big
00:49:13transition, like going
00:49:14from, say, daycare to
00:49:15school.
00:49:17So, if a woman is
00:49:18going to have two
00:49:19children two years
00:49:20apart and take them
00:49:23to at least the age
00:49:24of six, I mean,
00:49:25seven would be
00:49:25better, that's sort
00:49:26of the age of
00:49:26reason in most
00:49:27religions, but let's
00:49:28just say six, I
00:49:28don't want to stuff
00:49:29the case or tip the
00:49:31balance.
00:49:33So, she has the
00:49:33first kid, takes
00:49:34him to six, the
00:49:35second kid two years
00:49:36later, so she's
00:49:37eight years out of
00:49:37the workforce.
00:49:39Now, if she's in
00:49:39the workforce, most
00:49:41of her money is
00:49:41going towards
00:49:42childcare, and she
00:49:44isn't actually making
00:49:44that much money at
00:49:46all.
00:49:46The other thing, of
00:49:47course, she also has
00:49:48to look at is that
00:49:48women spend a lot of
00:49:50money on the home.
00:49:51I'm not complaining
00:49:52about this, it's just
00:49:53a fact.
00:49:54If you go to the
00:49:55mall, most of the
00:49:57stores, in fact,
00:49:58almost all the
00:49:59stores are dedicated
00:50:01to women.
00:50:02I kind of knew this
00:50:03in a way, but, you
00:50:04know, having a wife
00:50:05and a daughter has
00:50:06given me a whole
00:50:07different view of
00:50:08the economy, because
00:50:10women spend, like
00:50:12women control 85 to
00:50:1490% of household
00:50:16spending, and, you
00:50:18know, women spend a
00:50:19lot, and I'm not
00:50:21complaining about
00:50:21that, I'm just
00:50:22saying that it is an
00:50:23optional expense that
00:50:25a lot of women have.
00:50:26You don't need the
00:50:27new fluffy towels, you
00:50:29don't need particular
00:50:30kinds of soaps, you
00:50:32don't need decorative
00:50:34pillows, in terms of
00:50:35things that you
00:50:36actually need.
00:50:38So I would say that
00:50:40for women who work,
00:50:41again, on average, on
00:50:42the mean, most of
00:50:44their money goes
00:50:45towards childcare, and
00:50:47the rest of their
00:50:47money goes towards
00:50:48fairly frivolous things
00:50:49that aren't actually
00:50:50needed in the home,
00:50:51but, you know, make it
00:50:52nice, but they're not
00:50:53nice to have, not
00:50:54have to have.
00:50:55That was my big
00:50:56division in the
00:50:56business world, you
00:50:57know.
00:50:57It's nice to have
00:50:59extra money for R&D,
00:51:01it's a have to
00:51:02have to meet
00:51:03payroll, right, so
00:51:04nice to have versus
00:51:04have to have, you
00:51:05kind of got to
00:51:06differentiate these
00:51:06things in life.
00:51:07So when women say,
00:51:09yes, but I'm
00:51:10working, I'm like,
00:51:11yeah, but not
00:51:12really, because for
00:51:15the most part, your
00:51:16money is just going
00:51:16to daycare workers,
00:51:18and your money is
00:51:19going to aftercare
00:51:21programs, your money
00:51:22is going to a
00:51:22variety of things
00:51:24that aren't
00:51:25actually building
00:51:26that much wealth.
00:51:27It just feels like
00:51:28you're building wealth
00:51:28because you look at
00:51:29$4,000 a month
00:51:31and you say,
00:51:31well, you know,
00:51:31boy, if I didn't
00:51:33work, we'd have
00:51:34$50,000 less a
00:51:36year, and it's
00:51:37like, no, but
00:51:37you've got to do
00:51:39the actual math
00:51:40and you've got to
00:51:42figure out what
00:51:43is your actual
00:51:44take-home pay,
00:51:46and it's usually
00:51:47only a couple of
00:51:47bucks an hour,
00:51:48so, and you're
00:51:50losing out on all
00:51:50that time with
00:51:51your children, and
00:51:51you're stressed, and
00:51:52you're busy, and
00:51:53you've got all this
00:51:54complications, so
00:51:55again, there's
00:51:56exceptions, but the
00:51:58exceptions go both
00:51:58ways, we're just
00:51:59talking about the
00:52:00average.
00:52:00And so, yeah, I'm
00:52:01happy to get your
00:52:01thoughts on that,
00:52:02but that's what I
00:52:03would you say there
00:52:05are more merit to
00:52:06their complaints if
00:52:07they also have to
00:52:08work?
00:52:09I'm sorry, say
00:52:10again?
00:52:11Do you think there
00:52:12is more merit to
00:52:13their complaints if
00:52:14they also work a
00:52:15full job?
00:52:16I'm sorry, did you
00:52:17not hear what I
00:52:18said?
00:52:19Um, because you're
00:52:21just repeating, like,
00:52:22you asked me a
00:52:22question, I gave you
00:52:23a fairly long and
00:52:25sophisticated answer,
00:52:26and now you're just
00:52:26saying, but don't I
00:52:28still get to
00:52:28complain if they
00:52:29have a job?
00:52:29I'm like, don't
00:52:30take the job, stay
00:52:31home with your
00:52:31kids.
00:52:33Okay.
00:52:34And if they stay
00:52:35home with their
00:52:35children, their
00:52:36husband ends up
00:52:37earning more, because
00:52:38the household is
00:52:39taken care of, so
00:52:40the man can
00:52:41concentrate on his
00:52:42career.
00:52:43So, it's a split
00:52:44focus, right?
00:52:46So, if you have a
00:52:48band with a
00:52:50bassist, a singer, a
00:52:51drummer, and a
00:52:52guitarist, and the
00:52:54singer is the best
00:52:54singer, and the
00:52:56bassist says, well, I
00:52:56want half the time up
00:52:58at the microphone, even
00:52:59though he's not a
00:53:00good singer, the band
00:53:01suffers, because they're
00:53:02not efficiently dividing
00:53:03the labor.
00:53:04And so, a man's
00:53:07career generally takes
00:53:08off if his wife is
00:53:10home, raising his
00:53:12kids, supporting
00:53:13him, making sure the
00:53:14household runs well,
00:53:15taking away the
00:53:15paperwork from him, so
00:53:17he can focus on
00:53:19travel, he can focus
00:53:20on business
00:53:20opportunities, he can
00:53:21focus on staying
00:53:22late if he has to, so
00:53:24his income is going
00:53:25to go up considerably
00:53:27if his wife stays
00:53:28home.
00:53:28One of the reasons
00:53:29why women in the
00:53:31workforce tend to
00:53:32promote other women
00:53:33being in the
00:53:33workforce is that
00:53:34women in the
00:53:35workforce cannot
00:53:35compete with men
00:53:37whose wives stay
00:53:38home and run the
00:53:38household and raise
00:53:39the kids, because
00:53:40the men who have
00:53:41that are not
00:53:42have so much
00:53:43extra focus and
00:53:44deliberation of
00:53:45their testosterone
00:53:46based energy for
00:53:47resource creation and
00:53:48acquisition that the
00:53:49women can't compete.
00:53:51So, it's not a, it's
00:53:54simple math, and I'm
00:53:54not calling you
00:53:55simple, I'm just
00:53:56saying it's simple
00:53:56math to say, well,
00:53:58if the woman doesn't
00:53:58work, then the
00:53:59household is down
00:54:00four grand a month.
00:54:01It's much more
00:54:03detailed than that,
00:54:04and once you actually
00:54:04run the numbers, and
00:54:06you know, just
00:54:07generally, why would
00:54:08you want to trade a
00:54:09paycheck for time with
00:54:10your kids, especially
00:54:10when they're young?
00:54:11First five years are
00:54:13absolutely crucial for
00:54:14children's development,
00:54:15like, what do you care
00:54:17about some, maybe even
00:54:18if you do end up with
00:54:19some extra money in the
00:54:20bank, or you end up
00:54:21with some more
00:54:21knick-knacks around the
00:54:22house, or you end up
00:54:23with a nicer car, I
00:54:24mean, that stuff all
00:54:25gets thrown out and
00:54:26trashed and garbaged and
00:54:27binned and boxed and
00:54:28squished into stupid
00:54:29little cubes, like, the
00:54:31time with your children
00:54:31is truly precious, and
00:54:34the time with your
00:54:35children also roots your
00:54:37old age, because if you
00:54:38dump your kids in
00:54:39daycare and you go
00:54:40off to chase
00:54:40PowerPoint dollars,
00:54:43then when you get
00:54:44old and you want to
00:54:44spend time with your
00:54:45children, you don't
00:54:46have the bond, and
00:54:47they don't have the,
00:54:48quote, sacrifice as
00:54:51the basis of the
00:54:53relationship, so this
00:54:53is why people move
00:54:55away from their
00:54:56parents, and they
00:54:56don't have the
00:54:57parents available to
00:54:58help raise their
00:54:59grandchildren.
00:55:01I mean, if you are a
00:55:03woman and you are
00:55:05raising your kids, then
00:55:06you really want
00:55:07relatives around,
00:55:08particularly
00:55:08grandparents who have
00:55:09experience.
00:55:10That's really great, and
00:55:12you can have all of that
00:55:12wonderful stuff, but in
00:55:15order to have that, you
00:55:17just have to take some
00:55:18years off work to raise
00:55:19your kids, and you get
00:55:20all of these massive
00:55:21benefits down the road,
00:55:23because all the money
00:55:24that you spend, sorry,
00:55:26all the money that you
00:55:26create by working, rather
00:55:28than spending time with
00:55:29your kids, you end up
00:55:30spending later on in
00:55:31life on healthcare
00:55:32workers and other care
00:55:34workers and Ubers to
00:55:36drive you around to
00:55:37your medical
00:55:37appointments and all
00:55:38of that, you just end
00:55:39up burning up all that
00:55:40money, because you
00:55:40generally don't have
00:55:41access to those kinds
00:55:43of bonds with your
00:55:43kids where they will
00:55:44help you out with that
00:55:45kind of stuff, and want
00:55:45to, and care about it,
00:55:47so it's just, it's a bad
00:55:48deal economically as a
00:55:50whole, but it's tough to
00:55:53make that case, if that
00:55:54makes sense.
00:55:55No, I think I
00:55:56understand what you're
00:55:57saying.
00:55:58There's actually a law
00:56:00proposal here where
00:56:01they're going to make it
00:56:03compulsory for kids to
00:56:05go to, well, I guess,
00:56:07to preschool at the age
00:56:08of four.
00:56:09Hello?
00:56:10Sorry, you too.
00:56:10Yeah, go ahead.
00:56:11I'm listening.
00:56:12I'm just, I'm not sure
00:56:13when you've had
00:56:13sentences in, so go
00:56:14ahead.
00:56:15Okay, I'm sorry.
00:56:16So, what I said is
00:56:18there's a proposal here
00:56:21for, basically, for
00:56:25four-year-olds to have
00:56:26to start going to
00:56:27school.
00:56:28It's compulsory.
00:56:29What do you think of
00:56:30that?
00:56:31I mean, that's just
00:56:32evil.
00:56:33It's absolutely evil.
00:56:34That is using the
00:56:35guns of the state to
00:56:36rip toddlers from the
00:56:37arms of their mothers
00:56:38and march them out to
00:56:40these dehumanizing
00:56:41institutions of
00:56:42government-run
00:56:45daycare hell.
00:56:46It's absolutely evil.
00:56:47It's beyond stone
00:56:48evil.
00:56:48It is, in many ways,
00:56:50worse than child
00:56:50labor, because at
00:56:51least children who
00:56:52work get paid.
00:56:53They tend to be
00:56:54older, and there's
00:56:55some economics to it,
00:56:56but this, yeah,
00:56:57basically marching
00:56:58into people's
00:57:00households with
00:57:01weaponry, which is
00:57:03effectively what all
00:57:03laws do.
00:57:04All laws are based
00:57:05on force.
00:57:05They are enforced,
00:57:07right?
00:57:07Force is kind of
00:57:08like fiat by
00:57:08command, fiat
00:57:09currency.
00:57:10So, yeah, sending
00:57:13armed state agents
00:57:15into households to
00:57:18rip toddlers out of
00:57:19the arms of their
00:57:20mothers is evil,
00:57:22almost beyond
00:57:23words.
00:57:24So, what the
00:57:25defenders of this
00:57:26would say is that
00:57:28if the children
00:57:29don't go to
00:57:30daycare, they're
00:57:31not ready to go
00:57:32to big school.
00:57:34I'm using that
00:57:35in quotation
00:57:36marks, but what
00:57:38do you think of
00:57:38that?
00:57:39I find all
00:57:41aspects of
00:57:42coercive government
00:57:43involvement in the
00:57:44raising of children
00:57:45to be morally
00:57:46repulsive and evil
00:57:48almost beyond
00:57:49words.
00:57:49It's one of the
00:57:50greatest evils.
00:57:51You know, I have
00:57:52to not dwell upon
00:57:54the 13 fucking
00:57:55years that I was
00:57:56trapped in government
00:57:57education.
00:57:57I have to not
00:57:58dwell on that
00:58:00because if I dwell
00:58:01on that, I am
00:58:02filled with near
00:58:04bottomless rage.
00:58:05I mean, I love
00:58:06learning, I love
00:58:06thinking, I love
00:58:07reasoning, I love
00:58:08debating, I love
00:58:09advancing knowledge,
00:58:11and the fact that I
00:58:12was trapped in
00:58:14these shitholes,
00:58:15these shithole
00:58:16government schools
00:58:17with these
00:58:18incompetent,
00:58:19brain-dead
00:58:20teachers and this
00:58:20retarded curriculum,
00:58:21and that I was
00:58:23forced to do
00:58:24pointless, dig-a-hole
00:58:25and fill-it-it
00:58:26intellectual bullshit
00:58:28busy work for
00:58:2913 years straight
00:58:31and before that I
00:58:32was in daycares,
00:58:33but at least I
00:58:34was allowed to
00:58:34play and draw
00:58:35and so on in
00:58:37daycares and play
00:58:38with friends and
00:58:39at least that was
00:58:40something.
00:58:41But the school
00:58:42stuff was
00:58:44absolutely appalling,
00:58:46especially like now
00:58:47I sort of look
00:58:48forward in my life
00:58:49and I've got, you
00:58:49know, maybe 20,
00:58:5030 years to go
00:58:51because I'm in my
00:58:51late 50s, with
00:58:52luck, right, with
00:58:53luck.
00:58:55And so each
00:58:56year becomes more
00:58:57precious to me
00:58:57and I think about
00:58:58the hellscape
00:59:00and I was in
00:59:01school, I was in
00:59:02private school, I
00:59:02was in public
00:59:03school in a
00:59:05variety of
00:59:06different countries,
00:59:06so I've had some
00:59:07experience in a
00:59:08variety of different
00:59:09educational systems,
00:59:10absolutely terrible,
00:59:12absolutely appalling,
00:59:13it is a
00:59:14flamethrower to
00:59:15the curious mind.
00:59:16Do you know that
00:59:17government schools
00:59:19are foundational to
00:59:20suicides?
00:59:21In other words,
00:59:22children commit
00:59:23suicide at a
00:59:25far lower rate,
00:59:26far lower rate,
00:59:28in the summers
00:59:29when they're not
00:59:30trapped in these
00:59:30bullying, brain-dead
00:59:32hellholes.
00:59:33So, schools are
00:59:35driving children,
00:59:36in not tiny
00:59:38numbers, to
00:59:39psych meds, to
00:59:42being drugged just
00:59:43to get through the
00:59:43day.
00:59:44You know, that's
00:59:45what they did to
00:59:46assassins, that's
00:59:46why it's called
00:59:47hashish, hashashins,
00:59:48right?
00:59:49They would get their
00:59:50murderers high on
00:59:51drugs in order to
00:59:52get them to
00:59:53kill, women take
00:59:55drugs to get
00:59:55through prostitution
00:59:56and other forms of
00:59:58often coerced sex
00:59:59work, and children
01:00:01find schools so
01:00:02hellish they have to
01:00:03be drugged by the
01:00:05tens of millions in
01:00:07order to get through
01:00:07the day.
01:00:08That's how fucking
01:00:09appalling government
01:00:11quote education is.
01:00:12So, yeah, I have no
01:00:14doubt, I have no
01:00:16doubt that governments
01:00:17want to inflict this
01:00:19hell on children
01:00:20earlier to get
01:00:20them more
01:00:21acclimatized to
01:00:22it, but that's
01:00:22not a justification
01:00:23at all.
01:00:24Sorry, go ahead.
01:00:25Yes, I've been
01:00:26meaning to ask,
01:00:27have you ever
01:00:28developed an
01:00:29alternative theory
01:00:30of education?
01:00:32I've been reading
01:00:33through your
01:00:35Peaceful Parenting
01:00:36book recently,
01:00:36maybe you
01:00:37mentioned something
01:00:38about it in
01:00:39there, but I
01:00:40probably haven't
01:00:41gotten to it if
01:00:42it indeed exists,
01:00:43so I'm asking
01:00:44it here just in
01:00:45case.
01:00:47Sorry, asking
01:00:48me what?
01:00:49If you've ever
01:00:50developed a
01:00:51theory of
01:00:51education?
01:00:53Well, my theory
01:00:54of education is
01:00:55let's get the
01:00:56guns out of it,
01:00:57let's get the
01:00:57violence out of
01:00:58it, let's get
01:00:58the coercion out
01:00:59of it, let's get
01:01:01the government
01:01:02enforced teachers
01:01:03unions, the
01:01:03government enforced
01:01:04payment to the
01:01:06school systems that
01:01:06often come from
01:01:07property taxes, the
01:01:08government enforced
01:01:09curriculum.
01:01:10I don't have a
01:01:11solution to
01:01:12anything in the
01:01:13world other than
01:01:14let's stop using
01:01:15violence, or let's
01:01:16stop at least
01:01:16initiating violence,
01:01:17self-defense is
01:01:18fine, blah, blah,
01:01:18blah, usual
01:01:19caveats, but my
01:01:21solution is like
01:01:23if you have an
01:01:25economy based on
01:01:26slavery, which we
01:01:27kind of do, it's
01:01:28just a soft slavery
01:01:29through tax and
01:01:30debt, if you have
01:01:31an economy based on
01:01:32slavery, and I
01:01:34say, well, let's get
01:01:35rid of slavery, and
01:01:36you say, well, what's
01:01:37your solution to
01:01:37things?
01:01:38It's like, I don't
01:01:39have a solution other
01:01:40than slavery is wrong.
01:01:41Slavery is evil,
01:01:42slavery is immoral.
01:01:43We should not be
01:01:44initiating the use of
01:01:45force to transfer
01:01:45property.
01:01:46We should not be
01:01:47herding children
01:01:48around a gunpoint, and
01:01:49we should not be
01:01:49forcing parents to
01:01:51pay for indoctrination,
01:01:53often against their
01:01:54own culture and
01:01:54history, in government
01:01:56schools.
01:01:56We should not be
01:01:57using force and
01:01:58violence and debt
01:02:00and money printing and
01:02:01counterfeiting and
01:02:02enslavement to educate
01:02:03children, because it's
01:02:04not education, it's
01:02:05just pure indoctrination.
01:02:07So, as far as the
01:02:08theory of education
01:02:09goes, I don't really
01:02:10care.
01:02:11I do care that
01:02:12guns are pointed at
01:02:14parents and children
01:02:15to enforce the
01:02:16current mind-shredding
01:02:18bullshit.
01:02:19I don't care what
01:02:20happens when people
01:02:21stop pointing guns at
01:02:22each other.
01:02:23It's like if everyone's
01:02:25forced to get married
01:02:26to each other by the
01:02:26government, and they
01:02:28say, well, what's your
01:02:29theory about how people
01:02:30should get married?
01:02:31It's like, I don't have
01:02:31a theory about how
01:02:32people should get
01:02:33married, I just know
01:02:34that they shouldn't be
01:02:34forced to be married
01:02:36to each other, and
01:02:37whatever they choose
01:02:38free of that force is
01:02:39totally fine with me,
01:02:40and however children
01:02:41get educated, free of
01:02:43force is totally fine
01:02:44with me.
01:02:44I'm a moral philosopher
01:02:45which means I oppose
01:02:47violations of the
01:02:48non-aggression principle
01:02:49as evil.
01:02:50What people do in a
01:02:51state of freedom is
01:02:52their choice.
01:02:53As long as they're not
01:02:54initiating the use of
01:02:54force against each
01:02:56other, I could not
01:02:57care less.
01:02:59Do you think children
01:03:01should be able to
01:03:02choose their own
01:03:04topics that they are
01:03:05interested in and then
01:03:07pursue them?
01:03:09Well, that's a big
01:03:10question.
01:03:11When you say
01:03:11children, are you
01:03:12talking about two-year-olds
01:03:14or seventeen-year-olds?
01:03:16That's a good question.
01:03:20Let's start with, let's
01:03:22say, first grade.
01:03:24Well, I think, I can just
01:03:27talk about my own
01:03:27personal experience here
01:03:28because, you know, what
01:03:29works for me might not
01:03:31work for everyone.
01:03:31So, the one thing my
01:03:33daughter did have to do
01:03:34when she was younger,
01:03:35when she was very
01:03:36little, was I did
01:03:38teach her how to
01:03:38read.
01:03:40And she didn't mind
01:03:41it sometimes, and
01:03:42sometimes she frustrated
01:03:43it and so on, but I
01:03:44was pretty clear that
01:03:46this had to happen.
01:03:46She had to learn how
01:03:47to read.
01:03:48And I also know this
01:03:49is because there's a
01:03:50time when kids are
01:03:51little, when their
01:03:51language acquisition is
01:03:53crazy fast, and it's a
01:03:54developmental window
01:03:55that if you miss it,
01:03:56they will sometimes end
01:03:58up with reading
01:03:59comprehension and
01:04:01language issues for
01:04:02the rest of their
01:04:02lives.
01:04:03And so, I was
01:04:05very keen on having
01:04:07my daughter learn how
01:04:08to read, and it
01:04:08didn't take very long.
01:04:10I remember the first
01:04:11time she recognized
01:04:11the word up.
01:04:12It was very exciting.
01:04:13We were both thrilled
01:04:14about it, and she still
01:04:15remembers it to this
01:04:15day.
01:04:16She was very tiny.
01:04:18And so, I was very
01:04:20keen and pretty
01:04:21insistent that she did
01:04:22have to learn how to
01:04:23read, and I tried to
01:04:24make it as much fun as
01:04:25possible.
01:04:25There were times when
01:04:26she was frustrated,
01:04:27but, you know, it's
01:04:27nothing wrong with kids
01:04:28being frustrated as
01:04:29long as you help them
01:04:30through it in a
01:04:31positive way.
01:04:32And she became a
01:04:33huge reader, and she
01:04:35has read hundreds and
01:04:36hundreds of books, and
01:04:37has had great pleasure
01:04:38out of reading, so
01:04:40she doesn't look back
01:04:42and say, oh, I can't
01:04:43believe you made me.
01:04:44And of course, I
01:04:45didn't use force or
01:04:45punishment or anything
01:04:46like that.
01:04:47I was just pretty
01:04:47insistent that it's
01:04:49very important.
01:04:49And so, there's
01:04:51nothing wrong with, in
01:04:52a sense, making your
01:04:53children do stuff as
01:04:54long as they thank you
01:04:55later, right?
01:04:56Like, I mean, when
01:04:57your kids are little,
01:04:58they want to eat a
01:04:59whole bunch of
01:04:59candy.
01:05:00Of course, right?
01:05:01I mean, I'm 59, and
01:05:02I want to eat a
01:05:03whole bunch of
01:05:03candy.
01:05:04Every time I go past
01:05:05a candy store, I
01:05:06have to make myself
01:05:07keep walking, because
01:05:07if I buy it, I'm
01:05:08probably going to
01:05:09snack on it.
01:05:11So, if your
01:05:12children thank you
01:05:13later, then there's
01:05:15nothing wrong with
01:05:16that, right?
01:05:17So, if you let your
01:05:18kids eat a whole
01:05:18bunch of candy or
01:05:19not learn anything, I
01:05:21mean, maybe they'll
01:05:22be happier in the
01:05:23moment when they're
01:05:23young, but then
01:05:25what they'll do is
01:05:26they'll look back on
01:05:26you when they're
01:05:27older.
01:05:27Let's say you let
01:05:28them eat all this
01:05:29sugar and garbage,
01:05:31then they are
01:05:33overweight, they
01:05:34can't do any
01:05:35sports, they have
01:05:35bad skin, they're
01:05:36unattractive to the
01:05:37opposite sex, their
01:05:39self-esteem is in the
01:05:40toilet, they've got
01:05:41health issues, you
01:05:42know, maybe they've
01:05:42got onset diabetes or
01:05:45maybe even full-blown
01:05:46diabetes, and what
01:05:47they do is if they're
01:05:4917 or 16 and they're
01:05:50obese and have
01:05:52health issues and
01:05:53can't wash
01:05:54themselves properly
01:05:55and have bad teeth,
01:05:56they'll look back and
01:05:57they'll say, I really
01:05:59wish you had not let
01:06:00me eat all that
01:06:00sugar, because now I
01:06:02have lifelong fat
01:06:03cells, like once fat
01:06:04cells develop, they're
01:06:04almost impossible to
01:06:05get rid of, because
01:06:07the Supreme Court,
01:06:08hang on, the Supreme
01:06:09Court intervenes and
01:06:10says they can't leave.
01:06:11So if your children,
01:06:15if you encourage your
01:06:16children in a particular
01:06:17direction for good
01:06:18reasons, and even
01:06:19though they kick and
01:06:20fuss at times, if they
01:06:22look back and say, it
01:06:23was a good thing you
01:06:23taught me how to read
01:06:24at the right time, so it
01:06:26was easiest for me,
01:06:27then that's fine, and
01:06:28if you children cry
01:06:30because they can't
01:06:30have candy, but then
01:06:32when they're in their
01:06:33teens, they say, I'm
01:06:34glad that I have a
01:06:34healthy body, I thank
01:06:36you for not letting me
01:06:36eat all the candy I
01:06:37wanted, that's fine,
01:06:38you can get permission
01:06:39after the fact, and
01:06:40that's totally fine.
01:06:43If I have a little
01:06:45boat down at the
01:06:46marina and somebody's
01:06:47drowning and somebody
01:06:48grabs my boat and
01:06:49uses it, they don't
01:06:50have permission for me
01:06:51ahead of time, and if
01:06:52somebody would say,
01:06:53hey man, someone's
01:06:53taking your boat, I'd
01:06:54be like, oh no, make
01:06:56them stop taking it.
01:06:56But then if they
01:06:57use it to save their
01:06:58child from drowning
01:06:59and then return my
01:07:00boat, I'd be like, oh
01:07:01yeah, you have
01:07:01permission, I'm very
01:07:02glad you did that, I'm
01:07:03very glad you didn't
01:07:04let your child drown.
01:07:05So permission after
01:07:06the fact is totally
01:07:07fine, it's not a
01:07:07violation of any kind
01:07:08of property rights or
01:07:09anything like that.
01:07:10So as far as you
01:07:12should teach your
01:07:13children how to read,
01:07:14hang on, you should
01:07:14teach your children how
01:07:15to read, and then you
01:07:16should try to
01:07:17facilitate that which
01:07:19they enjoy the most.
01:07:22And so you keep
01:07:23wanting to say stuff, I
01:07:24keep trying to answer
01:07:24the question, you keep
01:07:25interrupting me, so go
01:07:26ahead.
01:07:27Okay, I'm sorry, I just
01:07:29wanted to say that I've
01:07:32had many people say that
01:07:33they are thankful that
01:07:34their parents, well not
01:07:36even just their parents,
01:07:37but also their teachers
01:07:38spanked them because it
01:07:39made them better.
01:07:41sure, and that's still
01:07:42immoral, but it wouldn't
01:07:43be something that would
01:07:44ever be pursued legally.
01:07:46I mean, there are some
01:07:47people who pay to get
01:07:49beaten by dominatrixes,
01:07:52right, the sadomasochistic
01:07:54domination, submission,
01:07:56BDSM, and sort of this
01:07:57sort of stuff.
01:07:58I don't think that's
01:07:59healthy, but it's
01:08:00obviously not a crime if
01:08:01it's consensual.
01:08:03So, yeah, I mean, that
01:08:04can happen, I still
01:08:05disagree with the
01:08:06morality of it, but it
01:08:10doesn't really matter
01:08:10what I agree or disagree
01:08:11with because nothing
01:08:12would happen legally with
01:08:13somebody who has
01:08:14approved of the
01:08:15behavior.
01:08:16So, go ahead.
01:08:19Okay, I'm going to have
01:08:21to go now because my
01:08:23phone is about to die,
01:08:25but thanks for the
01:08:26conversation.
01:08:27You are very welcome.
01:08:29I appreciate that, and
01:08:30thank you for calling in.
01:08:34So, yeah, with regards
01:08:36to, and I'm happy to take
01:08:37more callers if you have
01:08:38any questions or comments,
01:08:39with regards to letting
01:08:41children pursue their own
01:08:42interests, my daughter is,
01:08:46as was the case with me,
01:08:47is more interested in
01:08:48language than math.
01:08:52However, it's important
01:08:53to have a basic grasp of
01:08:55mathematics in life.
01:08:57I mean, you need to
01:08:58calculate percentages, you
01:09:00need to do a budget, you
01:09:01need to do your taxes, you
01:09:02need to have some
01:09:04understanding of numbers,
01:09:06and the idea that, well,
01:09:09you can just push a
01:09:11calculator, everyone carries
01:09:13a calculator around, of
01:09:14course, in their pockets
01:09:15these days.
01:09:16Well, but you need to
01:09:18also understand what the
01:09:18calculator is doing so
01:09:20that you can look at the
01:09:21results and know if you
01:09:23think it's something,
01:09:24right?
01:09:24If you meant to do 900
01:09:26times 10, but you did
01:09:27900 times 100, you need
01:09:30to look at that and say,
01:09:31well, that's not quite
01:09:31right.
01:09:31So, you do need to
01:09:32understand, in general,
01:09:35some basic principles of
01:09:36mathematics and numbers and
01:09:37ratios and percentages and
01:09:39all of that.
01:09:39Now, do you need to do long
01:09:41division by hand?
01:09:43No.
01:09:44No, you really don't.
01:09:47So, do you need to do, I
01:09:48remember struggling to learn
01:09:51algebraic division when I
01:09:52was in my early teens and I
01:09:56had a tutor who helped me.
01:09:57That was actually my
01:09:58brother.
01:09:58He did help me and I did
01:10:00manage to get through the
01:10:00test and then I promptly
01:10:01forgot about it all and you
01:10:03couldn't pay me to do it and
01:10:04have me achieve it.
01:10:06So, in general, what your
01:10:08job is, as a parent, is to
01:10:11prepare your children for
01:10:13adulthood.
01:10:15To prepare your children for
01:10:16adulthood.
01:10:17Now, does adulthood require
01:10:19that you do math from time
01:10:20to time?
01:10:21Of course it does.
01:10:22You have to figure out debt
01:10:23payments, you have to figure
01:10:24out mortgages, you have to
01:10:26figure out taxes, as I said,
01:10:27you have to do some
01:10:28budgeting, you have to
01:10:29understand some math to be
01:10:31a functional adult.
01:10:33You have to understand dosage
01:10:35in medicine, if you're
01:10:36taking antibiotics, you have
01:10:37to, if you're reordering, I
01:10:39don't know, let's say you
01:10:40take coenzymes or whatever
01:10:41it is, or some vitamins or
01:10:43supplements, you need to
01:10:44understand milligrams and
01:10:46larger and smaller numbers
01:10:48and so on, right?
01:10:49So, yeah, you need to
01:10:52understand some basic math in
01:10:54order to get through life.
01:10:55So, if you raise your
01:10:56children and let's say they
01:10:57don't like math at all and
01:10:58they love language and all
01:10:59they want to do is language
01:11:00and they hate math, well, when
01:11:02they become adults, will they
01:11:05wish that they knew a bit
01:11:06of math?
01:11:07Of course they will.
01:11:08And will they complain if
01:11:09you didn't teach them any
01:11:10math because they just
01:11:11didn't feel like it or
01:11:11didn't want to in the
01:11:12moment?
01:11:12Yeah, they will, and
01:11:13rightly so, because your
01:11:14job as a parent is to
01:11:15prepare your children for
01:11:16adulthood and adulthood
01:11:17involves math.
01:11:21And is it important to
01:11:23teach your children grammar?
01:11:24Yes, it is.
01:11:25Yes, it is.
01:11:27Because they're going to be
01:11:28judged by the written form.
01:11:30And it's kind of funny
01:11:31because when I was a kid, the
01:11:36written form was dying because
01:11:39it was telephones or in
01:11:42person.
01:11:43Everybody was verbal.
01:11:44Everybody was verbal.
01:11:46Nobody wrote letters, really.
01:11:48And everything was either on
01:11:49the telephone or in person and
01:11:51nobody really wrote.
01:11:52I mean, you'd write some notes
01:11:53here and there.
01:11:54But with emails, with texting,
01:11:56with blogs, with all of this
01:11:58sort of stuff, writing has
01:11:59come back into vogue.
01:12:02And if you don't know how
01:12:04to write, you are at a
01:12:06severe disadvantage in what
01:12:09is often a text-based world.
01:12:12And so, let's say you're some
01:12:14guy and you're texting some
01:12:16girl that you like and you
01:12:19say, I hope you're having a
01:12:20good day.
01:12:20And you say, Y-O-U-R rather
01:12:22than Y-O-U apostrophe R-E,
01:12:24which is the contraction for
01:12:25U-R, of course.
01:12:26And let's say that she's
01:12:27literate, you're going to
01:12:28look like an idiot.
01:12:30Even if you're not an idiot,
01:12:31you're going to look like an
01:12:32idiot and she's going to
01:12:33judge you by your grammar.
01:12:34If you're applying for a
01:12:36job and you misspell
01:12:38things and you get the
01:12:38grammar wrong, they're going
01:12:39to just throw out your
01:12:41resume or your letter.
01:12:43They're not going to take
01:12:44you seriously.
01:12:45If you want to influence
01:12:47people online, but you make
01:12:48basic spelling and grammar
01:12:49errors, people aren't going
01:12:51to listen to the
01:12:51sophistication of your
01:12:52argument.
01:12:53So, yes, even though
01:12:54grammar is not super
01:12:56exciting, to put it
01:12:56mildly, you know, when
01:12:58do you put the
01:13:00apostrophe at the end
01:13:01of others?
01:13:02Is it others no
01:13:03apostrophe, others
01:13:05apostrophe S, or others
01:13:06S apostrophe?
01:13:08Well, you kind of got to
01:13:09know these things.
01:13:09And, of course, you can
01:13:10run them through AI and so
01:13:11on.
01:13:12I get all of that, but
01:13:13it's more efficient to
01:13:16just know it yourself, and
01:13:17you won't always have that
01:13:18opportunity.
01:13:19And, of course, nobody
01:13:20knew that some perfect
01:13:21grammar checker was
01:13:22coming along.
01:13:24Or, it's not perfect, but
01:13:25an easier grammar
01:13:27checker.
01:13:28So, yeah, you've got to
01:13:29teach your kids grammar
01:13:30because in order to be
01:13:32effective as an adult, you
01:13:33need to be able to write
01:13:37in a way that is easiest
01:13:38to understand.
01:13:39The purpose of grammar is
01:13:40to make your thoughts easier
01:13:42to understand.
01:13:44Right?
01:13:45Eat, shoots, and leaves is
01:13:47the name of a grammar book.
01:13:49Like, panda bears eat
01:13:51shoots, and leaves.
01:13:52Eats, shoots, and leaves.
01:13:54If you put the comma in
01:13:55between eats and shoots,
01:13:58then it's a guy who goes
01:14:00to a restaurant, blows
01:14:00everyone away, and then
01:14:02runs away.
01:14:04Eats, comma, shoots, and
01:14:05leaves.
01:14:05Eats, shoots, and leaves
01:14:06means he's snacking on
01:14:09some vegetation.
01:14:10Salad.
01:14:11So, it's important.
01:14:13I mean, the meaning, one
01:14:14comma can change the entire
01:14:15meaning of a sentence.
01:14:18And grammatical errors can
01:14:20be quite hilarious, but they're
01:14:21confusing, and grammatical
01:14:22errors take other people's
01:14:24time.
01:14:25You're kind of stealing time
01:14:27if you write in a
01:14:28grammatically incorrect way
01:14:29because grammar is there to
01:14:31make your thoughts more
01:14:32efficient and more
01:14:32comprehensible.
01:14:34I mean, I'm sure everyone
01:14:35has received a message or
01:14:36an email which you can't
01:14:37really make head or tail of
01:14:38because the grammar is
01:14:40contradictory or confusing.
01:14:42And so, if you don't use
01:14:44good grammar, you are
01:14:45putting the burden of
01:14:46comprehension unjustly and
01:14:48unfairly on other people.
01:14:49They've got to email you back
01:14:50and say, what do you mean
01:14:51by this?
01:14:51I don't understand.
01:14:52And then you've got to email
01:14:52them back and, right, you're
01:14:54just taking their time, and
01:14:56it's kind of annoying to deal
01:14:57with as a whole because,
01:14:58again, especially as I get
01:14:59older, you know, there was a
01:15:00time in the middle of my life
01:15:01when I didn't really care about
01:15:02efficiency and time that much.
01:15:04But now I'm getting older.
01:15:05You know, I'll be 60 in
01:15:07September.
01:15:07So, the end of the tunnel is
01:15:11well within sight, and
01:15:13therefore, time and
01:15:15efficiency has become all the
01:15:17more essential.
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