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00:42Good afternoon and welcome to Beyond the Headlines. I'm DJ Moises.
00:47We hear about rising food prices, supply chain uncertainties, and the growing question of food security.
00:55And while many talk about solutions at the national level, some are already building them one backyard at a time.
01:04Today we speak with Benny Ke, an advocate of organic farming and agripreneurship.
01:11Hi Benny, welcome to Beyond the Headlines.
01:13Hi DJ, good afternoon.
01:16And we say bulaw ng Adlao.
01:18Oh yes.
01:19Mabuhay.
01:20Mabuhay.
01:21From the field, yeah.
01:23So it's really good to have you here because this topic is really timely, especially on the situation of the
01:31Philippines and the world at this time.
01:33But before we get into that, where did your interest in farming or agriculture begin?
01:42It started during pandemic, the COVID time, when we did nothing and then we are staying in the four walls.
01:57And I just put my head up high and then what to do.
02:04So I just called up my partner, Mr. Rekalui.
02:09And what are we going to do with the school paid?
02:13So we started going to Karkar.
02:16That's my reserve block for our housing development.
02:22So when we go there, when we went there, we saw a cacao trees.
02:29Just one, one tree.
02:31Cacao trees growing.
02:33And then, if I said, this is the one that you are looking for.
02:39So we stay in, there's a hut there.
02:44And then we stay four hours, four hours there until the afternoon.
02:49So it started, it tried to convince me that why cacao and then the benefits of cacao.
02:59So it started from there.
03:00And then everything follows.
03:06So at one point, did it evolve from looking at it as a project into looking at it as a
03:15mission?
03:17Actually, it's not a project at that time when we saw it.
03:21It's actually like, okay, let's venture something that we don't know.
03:26That we still have to learn.
03:30So we started 50,000 cindings once in a reserve lot in Karkar.
03:40So we make a nursery.
03:41So 50,000 cindings.
03:43So when we grew it, it started to grow.
03:49Very nice.
03:50It's very nice.
03:51I forget to give you that picture, but it was very nice.
03:55And then the Department of Agriculture out of them were, they called me.
04:00I don't know, I don't know them, and I don't know everybody in the government sector.
04:09So they said that they want to go there and take a look because they heard it from somewhere.
04:18So, so we went there and then just out of nothing, just they took us a picture that the 50
04:29,000 cindings, the blue sofas.
04:32And then when I started, parang ready to plant nato siya.
04:38But then the Baguio, all that struck when we were about to plant.
04:49So everything was out, all the 50,000 cindings.
04:54So I go, shall we continue or not?
05:00Because at that time is still COVID, but still COVID.
05:06So what to do?
05:08So we still continue, then we double it, 100,000 cindings.
05:13Fighting spirit.
05:14Oh, fighting.
05:16Nothing to do.
05:17So gone.
05:19So, and then from there we established, parang created a co-op.
05:25Because somebody just advised us, if you want to go into this,
05:33better create a co-op so that you can have these linkages with the Department of Agriculture and so on
05:41and so forth.
05:42So, in a time of uncertainty, because in your case, that was the pandemic.
05:49For future beginners, if we call it that way, like me, this situation that we are in,
05:56in which there's really, not massive, but observable increase in food prices.
06:08So, in times like this, why should families consider growing their own food?
06:21So, in any crisis that we've been through, especially during COVID, that it is an eye-opener.
06:30It was an eye-opener actually.
06:31Every time we search for our, we open up our gadget, we search for food.
06:39Food, eh.
06:40Grab food, vaccine, and so on and so forth.
06:43And a lot of things that are, or mga entrepreneurs just pop up during that time.
06:51They made the money during COVID.
06:53Even, even my staff, my staff, they just wanted to rest.
07:01But later on, I found out that they were doing the same food.
07:10They're selling online.
07:13I feel, actually, I feel happy for them, because they have learned that hard way during the COVID time.
07:24Because when, during the COVID, the time that is, everything is good,
07:32it seems that they are so, like, lax, and they don't want to learn.
07:37But that, I'm just happy to learn that they earn money from during the COVID.
07:45So, it's about relief food.
07:47So, that, if you can plant food at your own backyard, then it's a nice thing that you just can
07:53pick just one step away and then put it in your table.
07:58And, and, and, that's a, that's a good way of looking at difficulty.
08:04They say that we grow when we go out of our comfort zone.
08:09And COVID, and then, or death, and now, the Middle East tension, they make us uncomfortable.
08:15So, this is also, some people will look at it as a disadvantage, but enterprising people like you,
08:21or at least the people who eventually learn from you, would decide to make something, no, out of this situation.
08:30So, now, I'm already convinced, no, and our viewers are already convinced to grow their own food, no?
08:37What about, what you, can you, what can you advise, no, for us, or for our viewers who have limited
08:45space?
08:46Yes, okay, there, there are a lot of ways, it's not that you have to have a big truck of
08:52land, how many, hundred square meter, or thousand, or hectares.
08:57You even can put it in the wall, put it in a, in a waste, a container.
09:06I think we have a video for that, no?
09:09At least they can show it while you're explaining, but continue, continue.
09:12Yeah, but, okay, the, there are a lot of waste, they're out there, that you, you just can pick it
09:19up, and then slice it, and put soil,
09:22uh, yeah, just like this.
09:25Uh-huh.
09:26It is put in, in the PVC, so, so, it's like a vertical farming.
09:31Uh-huh, so, very nice that you, if you have there, when it grew, it seems that you are, parang,
09:41there's a satisfaction, actually.
09:43Uh-huh.
09:44First is, all the first time is always difficult, because you're, you're new to it, but later on, parang, sanay
09:53na ka ba?
09:54Uh-huh, so, it's just, uh, parang, they said, you have a green thumb na, parang, anong ba, but, it's
10:02because that you, you put it in a, in a right way.
10:07Uh-huh.
10:07And you plant it in a right way.
10:09Uh-huh.
10:09And speaking of planting in the right way, no?
10:12So, what would be the first few things, or the first thing, people like me with zero experience, no?
10:21How can we begin?
10:23How can I begin, no?
10:25Actually, um, when, when you really wanted to plant it in your backyard, there's, there are lots of, uh, program,
10:38um, coming from the Department of Agriculture, that they give you free seedlings.
10:46And even the soil, the fertilizer, they can give you.
10:51Uh-huh.
10:53So, you don't have to spend anything.
10:55To start, though.
10:56To start with.
10:57But, if you have the little money, do you want to buy a better one?
11:01Or, not because, uh, the air rust is not a good one, but, uh, you just like to spend for,
11:09for the soil mix.
11:10Uh-huh.
11:10Because, it's, it's always the preparation of the soil that really makes a good plant.
11:15Uh-huh.
11:16So, parang, you can buy it anywhere naman.
11:20Uh-huh.
11:21So, seeds are available anywhere.
11:24Uh-huh.
11:24Sige, just in case for, for us, no, who would want to start, no, by not really spending a lot,
11:31where exactly in Cebu, the Department of Agriculture, can they actually go?
11:36Or, can we go?
11:37There's a lot of, you know, you can ask for this, but, if, any, uh, no, we can, as, as
11:45our co-op, uh, in PBAC, we can always assist, can always assist you.
12:01Uh-huh.
12:02And, uh, we teach our own hotel staff to go into backyard farming.
12:09Uh-huh.
12:09And so, those, those who are interested, because these, these things, we, we just cannot, uh, force everybody to really
12:16plant.
12:17But, those are interested, uh, we, we teach them, and we give them a, uh, a kit.
12:22Uh-huh.
12:24We give them a kit, the soil, the fertilizer, the very compost, and, uh, seedlings.
12:30So, to start with, then, the technical support is always there.
12:34We have the technical support from the PBAC.
12:37Ah, okay.
12:37Our co-op, yeah.
12:38And then, what would be the easiest, or the most practical vegetables, or crops, no, that beginners like me, can,
12:49uh, can start with?
12:52Ah, okay.
12:55The pinak bit.
12:57The, the bitter girl, or, ang palia, palia, the talong, the eggplant, uh, tomatoes.
13:08Kangkong, very easy to plant.
13:12Kalamunggay.
13:15So, many things, many, many, many easy plants that to grow, that you just can, parang, like, 30 to 45
13:22days, or two months, just, you just can, you can pick up already, ah, nang put in the table.
13:28And then, for vertical farming, so, this applies to those living, living in buildings, no?
13:35Ah, nang, what would be the vegetables, man, or the crops that we should start with?
13:40Same thing.
13:41Same thing.
13:41Ah, even mukatay?
13:42Yes, yes.
13:43Oh, okay.
13:44As long as, ah, ah, ah, ah, sunlight.
13:47Okay.
13:47And then, you put the water.
13:48Mm-hmm.
13:49So, these, these are the basic, eh.
13:51Mm-hmm.
13:51And then, ah, the, the retro well.
13:54And, kuna lang, no, murag ka nang, this becomes, like, a one-on-one, no?
13:57But, just a, a, a, a, a, a shortcut method.
14:01So, how will the soil be, no?
14:04For example, kung vertical farming in a condo, so, pwede na siya kaang?
14:08And then, ipakatayin mo?
14:10Anything, in any ways, container that you have there, you can just, ah, cut it out, and then put soil.
14:16I think, ah, I, I have given you a picture this morning, that, ah, out of the kit that we
14:22give, our, ah, we get our hotel staff, now, they, they, they put it in a waste container already.
14:32Mm-hmm.
14:32I, I, I, I, I show you the picture of the, ah, so, if, sige, at least, I hope the
14:38viewers were able to capture that, kay, contrary to popular belief,
14:42lisod ang ka nang mga vegetables or crops na mukatay for vertical farming.
14:49But, what you're saying, is, basta na lang siya, Murag.
14:52But, if you have, like, this kind of wall, on the outside, maybe, ah, in a, small balcony.
15:00Oh, balcony, yeah.
15:00I think, which is normally, the condo, has the balcony.
15:04Correct, oh.
15:04If you have the wall, then you can put, ah, parang, ano lang.
15:08Katong wire screen, no?
15:09Wire screen, yeah.
15:09Put it there, by part, pa na.
15:11Mm-hmm.
15:13And then, sige, then the other one also is, what's the time investment, man, sad?
15:19Because, like, people living in condos most likely are also out most of the day.
15:25So, for the starter, kadang, the, you start with the right preparation, baby, on, on the day of, or Saturday,
15:35Sundays, on the weekends,
15:37you, you start those mga soil preparation, and then, mm-hmm.
15:42And, and planting, and put it in, in your, for example, like, like, like, like, like, like, this wall.
15:48Mm-hmm.
15:48Then, morning before, before you, before you took your breakfast, exercise lang ka pa?
15:54Put the watering, watering, then, ah, you take your shower, have a good breakfast, then, that's it.
16:02Mm-hmm.
16:02So, the, the, the investment most of the time is just in the morning, no?
16:07Yeah.
16:09Okay.
16:09So, it's, it's, I mean, in my opinion, it's doable, no?
16:12Doable, yun, Piyo.
16:14Mm-hmm.
16:14And then, kadang, now for, in the context of entrepreneurship, Nasad, this is under the assumption that eventually they're successful
16:25in terms of growing their own food,
16:27and then now they're thinking about making money out of it, no?
16:33So, kadang, what's the good point, Manzad, that you would recommend that a family, for example, is already ready to,
16:41I think we can scale this.
16:42Yes.
16:43Yeah.
16:44Mm-hmm.
16:45I'll tell you my part, I just tell you based on my experience, my backyard, because of my physical handicap,
16:58I cannot plant it myself, so I have a farmer, and my farmer is, is my pintor.
17:04Mm-hmm.
17:06From, from, from pintor turned into farmer, so.
17:10Mm-hmm.
17:10And, the way now, I, I do it before, is to give him the salary, because salary-based, mag-indang
17:20mga, mga trabante pa, so, every Saturday, hatag.
17:24So, you know, kading, parang, the, the Pinoy is having fun on, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading,
17:37kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading,
17:40kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading,
17:40kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading, kading
17:52after a while
17:57the production is
18:00too little i try to compute banga
18:04for the month and then
18:06for the week
18:09then you are just harvesting this this month
18:16so
18:18i i i just uh can i try to convince him that uh
18:24what partnership lang ta
18:26this is so partnering so and then he's asking me how do we partner
18:31basta kukagitan siya but
18:33hindi nagswildo
18:36so kung
18:38he was telling me that he was he still has a loan of how much so how much
18:44so this is about financial literacy
18:51let me know how much you owe to other people because
18:55this is part of the game okay
19:02you earn this much
19:04i tell you that
19:05it's 70 30 actually oh
19:08you know 70 percent well 30 percent
19:11but uh
19:12from the start for the first three months i i supported him
19:16buying seed things
19:17but but let go i you have you you have to pay this because
19:23this is part of the cost so anything
19:26anything that has been
19:30spend on the one you have to pay for it because that is business no
19:34let's do business
19:37so okay
19:38even water electricity i charge him
19:42i'm going to charge you now
19:43how many water name
19:45we put up a meter
19:47yeah electricity
19:48because we use the solar and this
19:51some solar light yeah
19:52what
19:53anyway
19:56little by little
20:00naihinay to the lucky
20:02mga lor until
20:02i'm past
20:03so he now started
20:06enjoying the
20:0630
20:08ng
20:11prophecy
20:12so
20:14parang
20:15with this
20:16ba
20:16pwede
20:17you know
20:18i just
20:18also
20:19i'm just
20:19also
20:19obvious
20:20but he
20:20even
20:20blog
20:21he
20:22do the
20:22blogging
20:23of the planet
20:24for the cherry tomato that he
20:26harvest
20:28the
20:28the mark
20:31the mercado
20:32is selling at
20:35250 per kilo
20:37i told him
20:40organic money
20:42you try to compare the prices for the mercado of the
20:45supermarket
20:47and those
20:47who are selling
20:49organic because
20:50and then
20:50let them try your
20:52one
20:54your
20:55your
20:55your
20:56produce
20:56so
20:58i
20:58blog
20:59blog
20:59such
20:59and
20:59i
21:00start
21:00we
21:01we
21:02i even
21:03shared to our
21:03friends
21:04also
21:05they
21:06also
21:07ordered
21:07no
21:07luckily
21:08they
21:09they're
21:10because
21:11even our
21:12japanese
21:12cucumber
21:13is
21:13is
21:14that
21:14big
21:15and then
21:17normally
21:17the japanese
21:18cucumber
21:18is small
21:20it's small
21:21because
21:22those
21:22using synthetic
21:24so
21:25synthetic
21:26when it grew bigger
21:30the seeds
21:31will also become
21:32bigger
21:32but not
21:33in the
21:34organic way of
21:36planting
21:37so
21:37when
21:38when
21:39we went to
21:40the top japanese
21:44restaurant here
21:45one of the
21:45top japanese
21:46restaurants
21:47the chef came
21:48out and then
21:49he tested
21:49the
21:50cucumber
21:50just put it in half
21:52and then
21:53he tried to eat
21:57juicy
21:59so
22:00by looking
22:03at the face
22:04of the
22:04chef
22:05he's very happy
22:06about that
22:07so he
22:07take all
22:08supposed
22:08to be
22:09rejected
22:10that
22:10too
22:10because
22:11the
22:13Japanese
22:14cucumber
22:14what they want
22:15today
22:16is
22:16smaller
22:17variety
22:18seeds
22:18in the
22:19Japanese
22:20cucumber
22:20so
22:22it's
22:22worthwhile
22:23but
22:23doing the
22:24right way
22:25of
22:25planting
22:25earlier
22:27because i
22:27asked you about
22:28the time investment
22:29which is
22:30bunta granuma
22:33what's the
22:34what's the
22:36duration
22:36man from
22:37planting
22:38until
22:39harvesting
22:40and let's
22:40start with
22:40the
22:41itong
22:41pinakbet
22:41lang
22:42sa
22:44vegetables
22:46you mean
22:47the
22:47how soon
22:48can they
22:48taste
22:49the
22:50fruits
22:50of their
22:51labor
22:53it's
22:54more or
22:54less
22:5445 days
22:5630
22:56something
22:58days
22:58245
22:59days
22:59really
23:00yeah
23:00okay
23:01so i
23:01think
23:02that's
23:02already
23:02encouraging
23:03at least
23:04by 45
23:05days
23:05they
23:05can
23:06see
23:06already
23:06the
23:06result
23:07yes
23:08now
23:09you've
23:10some
23:11is more
23:11than 60
23:12days
23:12actually
23:13so
23:14for
23:14example
23:15the
23:15likes
23:16of
23:16the
23:17lettuce
23:18i
23:19ate
23:20lettuce
23:20every
23:20day
23:21actually
23:23it
23:24is
23:24crunchy
23:25it's
23:25very
23:26very
23:26the
23:27the
23:27leaf
23:28is
23:28very thick
23:28parang
23:29you can
23:30leave
23:30it
23:30for
23:31the
23:31still
23:32crunchy
23:32still
23:33look
23:33fresh
23:35so
23:36makuha
23:37na
23:37and then
23:38you can
23:39also
23:40harvest
23:41that
23:41before
23:4230
23:42days
23:43actually
23:43okay
23:44pwede
23:45naman
23:45ay mong
23:46kwaon
23:47you can
23:48eat
23:48that
23:49already
23:49and
23:50then
23:50you
23:51kanika
23:51morag
23:51at least
23:52kanang
23:52we're
23:52moving
23:53towards
23:53making
23:54money
23:54out
23:55of
23:55the
23:55food
23:56or
23:56the
23:56vegetables
23:57that
23:57we
23:57grow
23:58this
23:59morning
23:59I
24:00was
24:00watching
24:00by
24:01coincidence
24:03I
24:03was
24:03watching
24:03the
24:04spokes
24:04and
24:05their
24:05topic
24:05was
24:06also
24:06agriculture
24:06one
24:07of
24:07the
24:08factors
24:08there
24:09that
24:10was
24:10mentioned
24:10the
24:11common
24:12mistakes
24:13on
24:13how
24:14people
24:14especially
24:15the
24:15government
24:15looks at
24:16agriculture
24:16is
24:17the
24:17measure
24:18of
24:18success
24:18is
24:19production
24:19not
24:21income
24:21and
24:22I
24:22think
24:22this
24:23is
24:23also
24:23where
24:24you
24:25were
24:25coming
24:26from
24:26when
24:27you
24:27stated
24:28your
24:28painter
24:30which
24:30is
24:31now
24:31turned
24:31into
24:32farming
24:32what
24:33are
24:33now
24:33in
24:33the
24:33area
24:34of
24:34entrepreneurship
24:36or
24:36agri-preneurship
24:38what are
24:38the
24:39common
24:39mistakes
24:40man
24:40that
24:41we
24:41should
24:42be
24:43more
24:44mindful
24:44so
24:44that
24:45we
24:45will
24:45at
24:45least
24:45based
24:46on
24:46your
24:46experience
24:47okay
24:49we
24:49tried
24:50to
24:50benchmark
24:51Taiwan
24:54the
24:55last
24:55month
24:55actually
24:56we
24:57brought
24:58four
24:59LGUs
25:00together
25:01with
25:01some
25:02of
25:03the
25:03board
25:03of
25:04directors
25:04of
25:04feedback
25:05our
25:05co-op
25:09from
25:09there
25:11the
25:12area
25:12that
25:13we
25:13went
25:13to
25:13is
25:14called
25:15Pintong
25:15is
25:15very
25:16similar
25:17climate
25:17here
25:18in Cebu
25:18and the
25:19farmers
25:20there
25:21are
25:22really
25:22business
25:23man
25:25yeah
25:25the
25:26area
25:26is
25:26for
25:27agri-farming
25:28and
25:29you
25:30can
25:30you
25:31can
25:32you
25:32can
25:33see
25:33that
25:33the
25:33farmers
25:34they
25:38wear
25:39good
25:39clothes
25:39they
25:39drive
25:40good
25:40car
25:43because
25:45what
25:46they
25:46are
25:46thinking
25:47to
25:48answer
25:49your
25:49question
25:49on
25:50the
25:50economic
25:51scale
25:52of
25:53things
25:55what
25:56they
25:56plan
25:59they
26:00are
26:00thinking
26:01of
26:01what
26:02to
26:02do
26:02with
26:03their
26:03produce
26:03aside
26:04from
26:05selling
26:06it
26:07in
26:07the
26:07market
26:07directly
26:11processing
26:12part
26:13of
26:14their
26:14thinking
26:15so
26:16yeah
26:18like
26:19for
26:19example
26:20there's
26:20a
26:21Taro
26:21Taro
26:23co-op
26:24a group
26:25of
26:26the
26:27co-op
26:28is
26:2815
26:29strong
26:30members
26:30and
26:31out
26:32of
26:32the
26:3215
26:3310
26:34are
26:35on
26:35the
26:37field
26:39tilling
26:39the
26:40100
26:40hectares
26:41of
26:41Taro
26:43and
26:44other
26:45five
26:45is
26:45going
26:46to
26:46the
26:47University
26:47of
26:48Science
26:48and
26:48Technology
26:50doing
26:51some
26:51research
26:51the
26:52products
26:53the
26:55products
26:55that
26:56they
26:56are going
26:57into
26:57and
26:58then
26:59other
27:00new
27:00products
27:01that
27:01they
27:01would
27:02like
27:02to
27:02produce
27:02and
27:04then
27:04some
27:04handling
27:05with
27:06processing
27:07in
27:07the
27:07plant
27:07manufacturing
27:09plant
27:09processing
27:09plant
27:10so
27:10they
27:11are
27:11closely
27:12working
27:13together
27:13for
27:14one
27:15purpose
27:15to
27:17export
27:17so
27:19the
27:21question
27:22is
27:23that
27:23how
27:24do
27:25it
27:27with
27:28economic
27:28sense
27:29of
27:29in
27:30farming
27:30because
27:31if
27:32we
27:32cannot
27:32do
27:33we
27:33will
27:34end up
27:34like
27:34what
27:35we
27:35have
27:35the
27:36challenges
27:37and
27:38the
27:39usual
27:40issues
27:41that
27:41we
27:41have
27:42too
27:44much
27:44produce
27:44over
27:45produce
27:46because
27:48when
27:49you
27:49produce
27:50pechay
27:50your
27:50neighbor
27:51also
27:51producing
27:52pechay
27:53so
27:54there's
27:56no
27:56data
27:57complete
27:58data
27:59as of
27:59now
28:00which
28:01we
28:01are
28:01clobbering
28:02to
28:03have
28:03on
28:03that
28:04for
28:05example
28:05squash
28:06there's
28:07squash
28:07four
28:08tons
28:10last
28:10month
28:11that
28:11was
28:13harvested
28:14during
28:15that
28:16day
28:16that
28:17they
28:17called
28:18me
28:18up
28:18and
28:18then
28:19it
28:19is
28:20like
28:23so
28:25on
28:26the
28:26day
28:26there's
28:27supposed
28:27to be
28:28data
28:29on
28:29that
28:29two
28:30or
28:30three
28:30weeks
28:31before
28:31at
28:32least
28:32put
28:33online
28:34you
28:37have
28:38four
28:38tons
28:38in
28:39the
28:40next
28:41month
28:41so
28:43that
28:43we can
28:43have
28:44this
28:44kind of
28:45P2B
28:47so
28:50what
28:51I'm
28:51what
28:52I'm
28:52driving
28:53at
28:53this
28:54we
28:55need
28:55information
28:57and data
28:58on
28:59what
28:59we
29:00are
29:00going
29:00to
29:00produce
29:00and
29:01link
29:02to
29:03those
29:03who
29:04are
29:04into
29:04the
29:04processing
29:05in that
29:07way
29:07or
29:07plant
29:08something
29:09that
29:09you
29:10have
29:10intended
29:10to
29:12process
29:14so
29:15only
29:15that
29:15will
29:16make
29:16sense
29:16if
29:17we
29:18have
29:18this
29:18kind
29:18of
29:18mindset
29:19it's
29:21good
29:21that
29:21you
29:22raised
29:22from
29:23what
29:24you
29:25saw
29:25during
29:26that
29:27trip
29:27in
29:27Taiwan
29:28the
29:28farmers
29:29there
29:29are
29:29not
29:30necessarily
29:30poor
29:31which
29:32is
29:32the
29:33common
29:34observation
29:34that
29:35we
29:35have
29:35here
29:35in
29:36the
29:36Philippines
29:36so
29:37you've
29:38mentioned
29:39about
29:39the
29:39importance
29:40of
29:41data
29:42and
29:45would
29:46result
29:46to
29:48oversupply
29:48compared
29:49to
29:49the
29:49demand
29:50the
29:50other
29:50one
29:50also
29:51is
29:51the
29:51frequently
29:52asked
29:53question
29:53why
29:54is
29:54there
29:54a
29:54huge
29:55gap
29:55between
29:56the
29:56farmgate
29:57price
29:57and
29:58the
29:59market
29:59price
30:00the
30:00moment
30:00they
30:01reach
30:01the
30:01consumer
30:02it
30:02seems
30:02like
30:03there's
30:04a
30:04huge
30:04gap
30:05in
30:05between
30:07that
30:07is
30:08a
30:08normal
30:10gap
30:11that
30:12we
30:12have
30:13seen
30:13this
30:13everyday
30:14the
30:16farmers
30:17because
30:17they are
30:18contented
30:20to
30:21earn
30:24lesser
30:25come on
30:26and pick up
30:28because
30:29they want
30:30don't want
30:30to spend
30:31or
30:33spend
30:34another day
30:35for
30:35driving to
30:36the city
30:36and
30:38although
30:39it's a
30:40bigger margin
30:41in the city
30:42for example
30:42in a certain
30:44products that we
30:45and the
30:45farmgate price
30:46is 20 pesos
30:47you can
30:47sell
30:47in the
30:48market
30:49for
30:4930 pesos
30:50or
30:5035
30:51so
30:52that is
30:53the
30:53difference
30:54from
30:54the
30:55market
30:55from
30:56the
30:56farmgate
30:57to
30:57the
30:57market
30:58so
30:59that's
31:00why
31:01it's
31:02very
31:02common
31:03that we
31:03have
31:03the
31:03trader
31:04or
31:05the
31:05middleman
31:06the
31:07trader
31:07is
31:09earning
31:10better
31:11than
31:11the
31:11farmer
31:11correct
31:12that's
31:13a
31:13common
31:13observation
31:14is
31:16earning
31:17on the
31:18day
31:18that
31:19they
31:19receive
31:20the
31:20margin
31:21the
31:22profit
31:22but
31:23the
31:23farmers
31:24has to
31:24wait
31:24for
31:2530
31:26days
31:2635
31:2740
31:27days
31:2860
31:28days
31:28for
31:30the
31:30harvest
31:30and
31:31in fact
31:33they earn
31:33lesser
31:34that's
31:34why
31:37if
31:38we
31:38can
31:40help
31:41the
31:41farmers
31:41in a
31:42way
31:43the
31:44mindset
31:44the
31:45culture
31:46have
31:47this
31:47kind
31:47of
31:48financial
31:48literacy
31:49on
31:49how
31:49to
31:51overcome
31:51this
31:53kind
31:54of
31:55gap
31:56I
31:57mean
31:59it's
32:00challenging
32:00actually
32:02we
32:03have
32:03to
32:03solve
32:03that
32:04very
32:04soon
32:05so
32:06how
32:06can
32:06like
32:07for
32:07example
32:07if
32:07I'm
32:08a
32:08farmer
32:08and
32:09I'm
32:09watching
32:09to
32:14eliminate
32:15the
32:16middleman
32:16so
32:17the
32:17farm
32:18gate
32:19price
32:21if
32:21ever
32:22I'm
32:22market
32:22price
32:23but
32:23at least
32:23the
32:23mark
32:24up
32:24goes
32:24to
32:24me
32:25they
32:26say
32:26the
32:27one
32:27who
32:27earns
32:27money
32:28is
32:28the
32:28middleman
32:28the
32:29consumers
32:29are
32:29the
32:29victim
32:30and
32:30the
32:31farmers
32:31became
32:32poor
32:32remains
32:33poor
32:33that
32:34is
32:35the
32:35usual
32:36case
32:36we
32:37have
32:37heard
32:38this
32:38time
32:39have
32:42you
32:42ever
32:43heard
32:43by
32:43DJ
32:46why
32:48kwarta
32:49hulugi
32:49ka
32:49sa
32:50langit
32:50yeah
32:51or
32:52di sila
32:53mo
32:53aga
32:53sa
32:53post
32:54when
32:55you
32:56want
32:57a
32:57bigger
32:57margin
32:58you
32:58go
32:59for
32:59it
32:59you
33:00strive
33:01some
33:01more
33:03and
33:04then
33:05if
33:08you
33:08went
33:09out
33:09all
33:10out
33:10to
33:10the
33:11city
33:13you
33:14also
33:14have
33:14eye
33:15opener
33:15what's
33:16going
33:16on
33:16the
33:16city
33:17rather
33:17than
33:17stay
33:18put
33:18or
33:19stay
33:19inside
33:20the
33:20box
33:20mga
33:21kwan
33:22so
33:22wala
33:24mga
33:25kwan
33:25imong
33:26mata
33:26sa
33:27outside
33:27world
33:28what's
33:28happening
33:29ba
33:29so
33:33it's
33:34about
33:36I'm
33:37I'm
33:38not
33:38sure
33:38how
33:38to
33:39want
33:40this
33:40but
33:40the
33:41data
33:41and
33:41information
33:42is
33:43very
33:44important
33:44and
33:45the
33:46e-commerce
33:46if
33:47they
33:48can
33:51embrace
33:52the
33:53e-commerce
33:55I've
33:56heard
33:56that
33:57the
33:57capital
33:58and
33:59some
33:59other
33:59groups
33:59have
34:00already
34:00this
34:01platform
34:02but
34:04I've
34:04not
34:04seen
34:05yet
34:05this
34:07in
34:08a
34:12nutshell
34:13we
34:13know
34:15what
34:15is it
34:16but
34:17we
34:17haven't
34:18seen
34:18it
34:18running
34:20as of
34:20time
34:22so
34:23we
34:23hope
34:23that
34:25everybody
34:26including
34:28the
34:28farmers
34:28will
34:29embrace
34:29and
34:30make
34:31use
34:31of
34:31their
34:31gadget
34:32on
34:33that
34:33just
34:34for
34:34the
34:35benefit
34:35of
34:35our
34:35viewers
34:35because
34:36recently
34:36Mangud
34:37because
34:37of
34:37the
34:38rising
34:38food
34:39prices
34:39I'm
34:40seeing
34:40more
34:41farmers
34:43market
34:44there's
34:45one
34:45I know
34:46in
34:47Capitoli
34:47so
34:48in
34:48this
34:49particular
34:49case
34:49because
34:50I
34:50did
34:50not
34:50have
34:50the
34:51chance
34:51to
34:51ask
34:51the
34:52vendors
34:52this
34:53is
34:53direct
34:53from
34:54farm
34:54to
34:55consumers
34:55so
34:56if
34:56we
34:57patronize
34:57those
34:58farmers
34:59market
34:59that's
35:00also
35:00a
35:01way
35:01of
35:01eliminating
35:02the
35:02middle
35:02men
35:04because
35:05it's
35:05giving
35:05the
35:05farmers
35:06direct
35:06access
35:07to
35:07the
35:08market
35:09instead
35:09of
35:10relying
35:10with
35:11the
35:11middle
35:11man
35:11to
35:12do
35:12the
35:12logistics
35:13for
35:13them
35:13so
35:14that's
35:15another
35:15way
35:15of
35:16patronizing
35:16the
35:17other
35:17one
35:17is
35:17what
35:18about
35:18access
35:18to
35:19capital
35:21so
35:21that
35:22they
35:22will
35:22not
35:22rely
35:23just
35:23in
35:23case
35:23they've
35:24seen
35:24the
35:24possibility
35:25they
35:25want
35:25to
35:26do
35:26it
35:26but
35:26they
35:26just
35:27don't
35:27have
35:27the
35:28capacity
35:29financial
35:29capacity
35:30to
35:30handle
35:31that
35:31what
35:31are
35:32their
35:32options
35:32man
35:32said
35:33actually
35:37many
35:38many
35:39farmers
35:39have
35:41the
35:43right
35:44access
35:45what
35:46they
35:46know
35:46is
35:46the
35:47access
35:47to
35:48co-op
35:51because
35:51they're
35:52members
35:53of
35:53the
35:53co-op
35:55the
35:57credit
35:57access
35:58is
35:58there
35:58but
36:00actually
36:03there
36:03are
36:04a lot
36:05of
36:05access
36:06that
36:06we
36:06can
36:07avail
36:07from
36:07the
36:07government
36:09such as
36:10the
36:11government
36:12just
36:12need
36:13that
36:13you
36:13have
36:13to be
36:14member
36:14of
36:14the
36:14co-op
36:15so
36:16I
36:17don't
36:18know
36:18if
36:19things
36:20will
36:20change
36:20but
36:23the
36:26sad part
36:27here is
36:30there are a lot
36:31of programs
36:31that we can
36:32appeal
36:32from the
36:33government
36:34because
36:35like this
36:37we have
36:37this
36:38two-pad
36:38program
36:39from the
36:39Dole
36:40Dole
36:41is even
36:42encouraging
36:44going to
36:45agriculture
36:46which is part
36:48of their
36:49program
36:49actually
36:51we have
36:52availed
36:53that
36:53as a
36:54co-op
36:54and
36:56it's
36:57good
36:58sana
36:58if
36:59co-op
36:59practice
37:00that
37:00to
37:02direct
37:02without
37:04any
37:05you
37:05know
37:08any
37:09charges
37:09given
37:10to the
37:11members
37:15like
37:18what
37:19we
37:19access
37:19is
37:20the
37:21to
37:22grow
37:23cacao
37:25from
37:26the
37:26cacao
37:29because
37:30you have
37:30to wait
37:30for two
37:31years
37:31to
37:32grow
37:33so
37:34while
37:35waiting
37:36you are
37:37given
37:37a
37:38cast
37:38crop
37:38program
37:39it's
37:40like
37:41in a
37:42month
37:43you are
37:43given
37:4310
37:44days
37:44salary
37:45oh
37:46this
37:47is
37:48Dole
37:48no
37:48so
37:50it's
37:50a nice
37:51program
37:51that
37:52you can
37:52encourage
37:53the
37:53purpose
37:53okay
37:54you start
37:55one
37:56and
37:57you can
37:57you can
37:58have
37:58this
37:58so
37:59with
38:00this
38:00we
38:01have
38:02nine
38:04people's
38:05organization
38:07beneficiary
38:08so
38:09one
38:11is
38:11from
38:12Hinatilan
38:13that
38:13we
38:14have
38:16what
38:17I
38:17know
38:17is
38:18he
38:19has
38:19organized
38:1940
38:22they
38:23call it
38:23corporative
38:24farmers
38:24like
38:26you
38:28organize
38:29those
38:31lot
38:32farmers
38:33having
38:34lot
38:35and then
38:38form them
38:39into
38:39a
38:39monitoring
38:41and
38:42form
38:43the
38:44corporate
38:45structure
38:46so
38:47this
38:47is called
38:48corporative
38:49farming
38:50so
38:50that
38:51is
38:51their
38:51program
38:52by
38:52the
38:53Dole
38:53so
38:54that's
38:54a prerequisite
38:55they
38:55group
38:56themselves
38:56and
38:58then
38:58work
38:58with
38:59Dole
38:59this
39:00time
39:03we
39:04are
39:06the
39:08PBAC
39:09is
39:10the
39:10one
39:11is
39:12the
39:12implementer
39:13so
39:15they
39:15course
39:16the money
39:17through us
39:18the PBAC
39:19with
39:20the
39:21guidelines
39:21of
39:22Dole
39:23we
39:23can
39:23impart
39:24that
39:24to
39:24our
39:26co-op
39:27members
39:28so
39:29you
39:29can
39:29also
39:29be
39:29part
39:30of
39:30our
39:30members
39:31I'm
39:32actually
39:32thinking
39:33about
39:34it
39:34and
39:34just
39:35for
39:35encouragement
39:36the
39:36reason
39:37why
39:37I
39:37was
39:37also
39:38thinking
39:38about
39:38it
39:38because
39:39just
39:40like
39:40what
39:40we
39:40said
39:41in
39:41the
39:43opening
39:43part
39:44of
39:44this
39:44episode
39:45the
39:45pandemic
39:46makes
39:46us
39:46uncomfortable
39:47but
39:48these
39:48are
39:48also
39:48opportunities
39:49that
39:50we
39:50can
39:50explore
39:51because
39:52it
39:52would
39:52put
39:52food
39:53on
39:53the
39:53table
39:53at
39:54the
39:54same
39:54time
39:54eventually
39:55we
39:56can
39:56scale
39:56it
39:56into
39:57a
39:57business
39:58in
39:58which
39:58we
39:58can
39:58make
39:59money
39:59yeah
39:59you
40:00can
40:00send
40:00to
40:00your
40:01neighbor
40:01you
40:04can
40:05consume
40:06everything
40:06so
40:07you
40:08send
40:09to
40:09your
40:09neighbor
40:10and
40:11then
40:11we're
40:12on
40:12the
40:12last
40:13few
40:13questions
40:14for
40:14this
40:15particular
40:15episode
40:17I've
40:18also
40:18heard
40:18that
40:19unfortunately
40:20agriculture
40:20is like
40:21a
40:22dying
40:22sector
40:23already
40:23and
40:24the
40:24reason
40:24for
40:24that
40:24is
40:24because
40:25the
40:25next
40:25generation
40:26even
40:27the
40:29sons
40:30and
40:30daughters
40:31of
40:31farmers
40:32are not
40:33already
40:33interested
40:34with
40:34agriculture
40:34because
40:35what
40:35they
40:35see
40:36from
40:36their
40:36parents
40:36and
40:37also
40:37from
40:37other
40:37people
40:38they
40:38remain
40:38poor
40:39so
40:39why
40:39would
40:40they
40:40consider
40:40that
40:40so
40:41how
40:41can
40:41you
40:42correct
40:42how
40:43can
40:43we
40:43correct
40:43that
40:44narrative
40:44no
40:46okay
40:48in
40:49agriculture
40:51it's
40:52like
40:52to
40:54for
40:56me
40:56the
40:57way
40:57I
40:57see
40:57from
40:58Taiwan
40:59Spence
41:00mark
41:00it's
41:01a
41:01trip
41:01or
41:02this
41:03tree
41:04has
41:05to
41:05go
41:05together
41:05the
41:06private
41:07and
41:07the
41:08farmers
41:10this
41:11has
41:11to
41:12go
41:12together
41:12to
41:14form
41:14a
41:14nice
41:15coalition
41:16because
41:17so
41:18this
41:18is
41:18the
41:18government
41:19the
41:19farmers
41:20and
41:20the
41:21private
41:21sector
41:22and
41:22the
41:22private
41:22sector
41:23okay
41:23yeah
41:23so
41:24in
41:25their
41:25case
41:26in
41:26Taiwan
41:26is
41:27between
41:28the
41:28government
41:28and
41:29the
41:29farmers
41:30through
41:31the
41:31coop
41:31because
41:32the
41:32farmers
41:33themselves
41:33are
41:33the
41:33businessmen
41:35so
41:36we
41:36would
41:36like
41:36to
41:37replicate
41:37on
41:37asana
41:38the
41:39concept
41:39of
41:40how
41:41Taiwan
41:42do
41:42it
41:43because
41:43we
41:44have
41:44the
41:44same
41:45climate
41:46from
41:46very
41:47similar
41:48as
41:49in
41:49the
41:49Philippines
41:50if
41:56people
41:57only
41:57think
41:58that
41:58farmers
41:59has
42:00no
42:00money
42:01but
42:03people
42:06always
42:07talk
42:08talk
42:08about
42:08the
42:10big
42:11corporation
42:11going
42:11into
42:12waste
42:12to
42:12energy
42:14so
42:15there's
42:16money
42:16in
42:16waste
42:18right
42:19it's
42:19how you
42:19look at it
42:26money
42:30money
42:31because
42:34that is
42:35dirty
42:36but
42:37to
42:38think
42:38about
42:39it
42:39that's
42:40all
42:40this
42:41money
42:42it's
42:43money
42:43so
42:43we
42:44just
42:44have to
42:45deal
42:46properly
42:46and
42:47then
42:47maybe
42:48this
42:49time
42:49the
42:49people
42:49or
42:50the
42:50young
42:51generation
42:51are
42:52so
42:52it
42:54goes
42:54to
42:54our
42:55gadgets
42:55so
42:56that's
42:56why
42:56farming
42:59but
43:00in fact
43:01like
43:02like
43:03the
43:03DOST
43:04DOST
43:05they have
43:07also
43:09programs
43:10that
43:12they
43:13do
43:13it
43:14intended
43:15for
43:15the
43:15farming
43:16like
43:17the
43:17there's
43:18a
43:18Saray
43:18project
43:19that
43:19I
43:19know
43:21this
43:21Saray
43:22project
43:22is
43:22kind
43:23of
43:23like
43:23smart
43:24farming
43:25so
43:25it
43:25detects
43:26your soil
43:26it
43:27affects
43:27the
43:27atmosphere
43:28it
43:29detects
43:29that
43:29the
43:31crops
43:32the
43:32plants
43:33already
43:34needs
43:34water
43:34so
43:36it
43:36automatically
43:36sprinkle
43:38those
43:39are
43:39the
43:39smart
43:39farming
43:40so
43:40we
43:41can
43:41adapt
43:41that
43:42and
43:42I
43:44saw
43:44that
43:44using
43:45the
43:46drone
43:46in
43:47putting
43:48the
43:49sprinkled
43:50fertilizer
43:51and
43:52so
43:52we
43:55just
43:56need
43:56the
43:57government
43:57and
43:57the
43:57farmers
43:58to
43:59come
43:59together
44:00and
44:00then
44:00think
44:01about
44:01putting
44:03up
44:03crops
44:04that
44:04can
44:04export
44:05there
44:06are
44:06a lot
44:06of
44:07blood
44:07in
44:07the
44:07Philippines
44:08if
44:09they
44:09want
44:09Taiwan
44:10when
44:11they
44:11were
44:11too
44:13much
44:13but
44:14your
44:15natural
44:15resources
44:16is
44:16very
44:16vast
44:17mmm
44:18ibog
44:19sila
44:19mmm
44:20so
44:20when we
44:22went there
44:22they
44:23reciprocated
44:24they came
44:25to the
44:25came to
44:26Cebu
44:26and
44:27just
44:28taking a
44:29look
44:29on
44:29how
44:31how
44:32they
44:32can
44:32cooperate
44:32together
44:33so
44:33we
44:36have
44:36really
44:37a lot
44:37of
44:38resources
44:38down
44:39here
44:39that
44:39sayangan
44:41sila
44:43sayangan
44:43sila
44:44nobody
44:44is just
44:45taking
44:46care
44:46of
44:46the
44:46quad
44:48so
44:49yeah
44:49so
44:50I think
44:50this
44:51is
44:51a very
44:52good
44:52conversation
44:53and a
44:54good
44:54starting
44:54point
44:55for
44:55our
44:56viewers
44:57like
44:57me
44:57who
44:58have
44:58zero
44:59experience
45:00just
45:00yet
45:01but
45:02we
45:02can
45:02make
45:02the
45:03most
45:03of
45:03this
45:04unfortunate
45:04situation
45:05like
45:06the
45:06rapid
45:07increases
45:08in
45:08food
45:08prices
45:08to
45:09finally
45:09encourage
45:10us
45:10to
45:10get
45:11out
45:11of
45:11our
45:12comfort
45:12zone
45:12and
45:13join
45:14you
45:16and
45:17the
45:17cooperatives
45:18for us
45:19to be
45:19able to
45:20not
45:20just
45:20grow
45:20our
45:21own
45:21food
45:21but
45:21eventually
45:22become
45:23agripreneurs
45:23and
45:24earn
45:25money
45:25from
45:26farming
45:26so
45:27thank
45:27you
45:27very
45:27much
45:27for
45:27joining
45:28us
45:28today
45:28thank
45:29you
45:29DJ
45:29for
45:30having
45:30me
45:30yeah
45:31so
45:31thank
45:31you
45:31Benny
45:32for
45:32joining
45:32us
45:32and
45:32for
45:32reminding
45:33us
45:33that
45:33the
45:33future
45:34of
45:34food
45:34can
45:34be
45:34built
45:35one
45:35plant
45:36one
45:36farmer
45:37one
45:37family
45:37one
45:38household
45:39at
45:39a
45:40time
45:40and
45:40to
45:41our
45:41viewers
45:41we
45:42may
45:42not
45:42have
45:43the
45:43control
45:43with
45:44the
45:44market
45:45but
45:45we
45:45can
45:45control
45:46what
45:47we
45:47start
45:47so
45:48the
45:48question
45:48now
45:48is
45:49no
45:49longer
45:49can
45:50we
45:50do
45:50it
45:50because
45:51I
45:51think
45:51we
45:51have
45:51covered
45:52it
45:52today
45:52that
45:59best
45:59answer
46:00to
46:00that
46:00is
46:01today
46:01so
46:01I'm
46:02DJ
46:02Moises
46:02thank
46:03you
46:03for
46:03joining
46:04us
46:04this
46:04afternoon
46:05and
46:05this
46:05has
46:06been
46:06Beyond
46:06the
46:07Headlines
46:29to
46:34a
46:36do
46:37to
46:38to
46:38to
46:40to
46:40to
46:41to
46:44to
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