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ITL debates whether the Texans could target the same position twice early and why it might make sense.
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00:00Could you see the Texans double dipping in this draft at any position other than offensive line 713-572-4610?
00:06I want to hear what you think first.
00:08I have one.
00:10I think I know where you're going, but I have one that maybe you wouldn't agree with.
00:15It depends on how we're classifying things.
00:18That's what I'm saying.
00:19It depends on how we're classifying things.
00:21If we're talking about defensive line, I could see them double dipping there.
00:25I could see them getting an edge and a defensive line.
00:27Oh, no, no, no.
00:27Specific positions.
00:28Yes, if we go specific positions.
00:29Come on, man.
00:30Don't game the system.
00:31Well, it's going to be tough for me to make that happen, right?
00:37It's going to be hard for me to find a place because I'm open to the idea that they could
00:41get a wide receiver.
00:42I think they get one, right?
00:43I'm open to the idea that they get a running back.
00:45I think they get one.
00:47I'm open to the idea that maybe even they could slide a cornerback in there.
00:51Obviously, linebacker.
00:52All of those feel like a one.
00:54Again, I don't know that defensive tackle, maybe if you come back around seeing how deep it is, a seventh
01:00-round pick where you're just like, hey, let's take a flyer maybe.
01:02Outside of that, and it feels wild to say because it feels kind of like defensive tackle in this way,
01:07is it possible that tight end could be that?
01:09I thought that's what you were going to say.
01:11I'm not sold on it, but I'm like, that's the one that feels like it's the most open outside of
01:15the clear offensive line possibility.
01:18What position?
01:19Tight end.
01:19Tight end.
01:20That's what I was thinking, to be honest.
01:21Because we've talked about it, and certainly Nick Casario talked about it.
01:26And by the way, we're going to hear some pretty good stuff.
01:30Pretty good stuff the old boys got this morning from Nick Casario.
01:33That was fresh.
01:35Fresher.
01:36We're going to hear from him again on that later.
01:39But, you know, he mentioned it, sort of a, not exactly a ringing endorsement for the depth chart at tight
01:46end.
01:46So I'm wondering, you know, if the clock is ticking and it's ticking, you know, dang near toward decision time,
01:53you know, at the tight end position.
01:55But that's not the one I have.
01:55But go ahead.
01:56Yeah, the thing that pushes me off from that is I recognize that this feels like the ain't stopping no
02:02show draft is the way that I'm calling it,
02:03in which I don't think that anything on their depth chart, outside of a very few select places, stop them
02:10from going and getting somebody that they like.
02:12Right?
02:12We talked about this in the context of wide receiver.
02:15Tank Dell, Jaden Higgins, Jay Leno, they ain't stopping no show if you find a guy that you like.
02:20But he kind of, in the way that he talked about it, right, Brevin Jordan, Foster Moreau, Kay Stover, ain't
02:26stopping no show if you find somebody that fits the roles that you want
02:29and has the capability of coming in and giving you something.
02:32But even with that being the case, it does feel weird to have four dudes on your payroll right now
02:38as a tight end and then go add two more to that room.
02:40That would feel like a lot.
02:42It would be competition, man.
02:43It would be competition.
02:45I think that's what they want at this point.
02:48I agree.
02:49I agree.
02:49Because outside of Schultz, who else is, you know, a clear number two or whatever?
02:54And I mentioned the clock is ticking.
02:57You know, it's heartbreaking in a sense, you know, what has happened with Brevin Jordan's career arc.
03:03But that career arc is, it's late.
03:06You know, it's getting late fast.
03:08Yeah.
03:08And you get to a point where you got to figure out something with him, man.
03:12Cade Stover, we're real, speaking of the clock ticking, we're real close to getting to a point where, like, we
03:17know what he is.
03:18You know, this is what he is.
03:21So, I could see that.
03:23That's not mine.
03:23And mine, I'm wondering what your thoughts would be on this.
03:26Okay.
03:26Simply because they are so good at this position.
03:31But cornerback.
03:32I could see them double dipping at cornerback.
03:35And the reason is, when you look at the depth chart, there are a lot of questions, you know, deep
03:41at cornerback.
03:41Plus, you need a nickel.
03:42And so, I'm kind of stretching it there.
03:45Plus, I have just my personal draft velocity for my entire adult life, pretty much, has been.
03:50Draft one every other year.
03:52Every other year, no matter what.
03:53See, you listen.
03:54I've been working with you too long, man.
03:56Every other year, draft a cornerback, even if you have two all pros, you know, out on your squad.
04:02Because, number one, their careers are not real long, generally speaking.
04:07Number two, you need a lot of cornerbacks just because of injuries and offenses, you know, in this era.
04:14And number three, the depth chart for the cornerback position is always just rife, rife with players that are sort
04:23of borderline.
04:24So, you take, let's say you take a cornerback, you know, in the mid-rounds, you know, late day two
04:29or whatever.
04:30Hell, man, take another one day three.
04:32See what you got.
04:32If nothing else, it also helps you with special teams.
04:35Yeah.
04:35Okay.
04:36You might get me close to sold there.
04:39I think the thing that gets tough, though, is this wouldn't be every other year.
04:42This would be two years in a row.
04:44That's fine.
04:44Right?
04:44Because Jalen Smith is a guy that they brought in and seemed like they liked to some degree, but unfortunately
04:49got hurt.
04:50And that'd be, I think that he's still in if I'm creating kind of like concentric circles.
04:56Right?
04:56Sorry.
04:57Go ahead.
04:57You can hit the sound.
04:58Yeah.
04:58Go ahead, man.
04:59As soon as I said it, I was like, damn.
05:00Go ahead, man.
05:01I want to throw you off.
05:03All right.
05:03If you're creating kind of like circles.
05:08I don't even need to defend myself.
05:10If you're creating circles, I feel like he's in a, he's clearly not in the innermost circle, which is clearly
05:15you're all pros.
05:15Right?
05:16It is Kamari Lasseter.
05:17It is Derrick Stingley Jr.
05:18I think he's in that secondary circle of guys that you trust to play minutes, which you don't have a
05:23lot of guys, which I understand.
05:24I could take very much take a corner.
05:27I think that you, you got on me on trying to juke the stats with the defensive line, but I
05:33do think you're right.
05:33There is something to be said for, Hey buddy, who is Jalen Petrie's backup right now?
05:37Right.
05:37Because there isn't one.
05:38I tried to make a, what is it?
05:40Elijah Hussey.
05:41I don't think Elijah Hussey's actually his backup.
05:43I don't think that he actually does the position because Jamarcus Ingram.
05:47I don't, Jamarcus Ingram is a maybe, but even when we saw him play at the end of last year,
05:51which was one game, it was the week 18 game where you basically tried to get everybody out there.
05:55They played him on the outside.
05:56I do wonder how much of him playing outside cornerback was.
05:59We just don't have guys.
06:00So you have to play outside and how much of that is we prefer him as the outside as an
06:03inside than rather than an inside.
06:05But then also that is a very particular position that hear me clearly.
06:09Everyone in the National Football League is looking for, right?
06:13Of course.
06:13With obviously Jalen Petrie's success, with Kyle Hamilton, with Nick Emma Worry up there in Seattle.
06:18Everybody is looking for that cornerback slash safety that plays in the nickel as kind of can play physical like
06:24a linebacker, but can cover like a defensive back and can do all those things and allow you to manage
06:29the new meta of 12, 13 personnel where you can get big, but still cover.
06:33And so there's some guys, in fact, we talked about this when they brought somebody in, the cornerback from Cleveland,
06:38who could play a little bit like that.
06:40And then when they had Keontae Scott, the Miami safety guy who plays like this, where we go, huh, that's
06:46interesting.
06:47Maybe that's a Keontae Scott where you end up with him, but then also maybe a true cornerback to add.
06:51I could see that as being the case.
06:53Yeah, I just, I could see it happening.
06:56They didn't draft two cornerbacks last year, but they drafted a cornerback and a safety.
07:00They sure did.
07:01And I think, you know, just keep that wheel turning, man.
07:04Keep that competition high.
07:06Okay.
07:06I thought you was going here with it, with Kamari Lasseter.
07:10And I know his deal is not up, you know.
07:13That's in the back of your mind.
07:15I know where you're going with this.
07:16That's two years from now, right?
07:18Yeah.
07:18I wonder if they think about getting the jump start because it's going to be tough to try to keep
07:23two cornerbacks like that.
07:25And I think Kamari going to get a lot of money in free agency.
07:29That's back there somewhere, Figgy.
07:31Yeah.
07:31I thought you was going there with it, trying to find another Kamari.
07:34I think it's a factor, but I just think you need cornerbacks.
07:38I mean, your calling card is your defense.
07:40You mentioned, you know, the Petrie thing.
07:42Even if you take Nickel out of there, you know, Jalen Smith, okay, we'll see.
07:46You know, Tremont Smith, I think we know.
07:49So, yeah.
07:51I think keep that competition high.
07:54I did mention Mapu as well earlier because somebody said, what about the linebacker that they traded for from New
08:00England?
08:00I remember when I went and looked at his stuff, I was like, huh, maybe he could be that because
08:03he's a smaller will linebacker.
08:05And in my brain, I go, all right, Jalen Petrie is kind of a small will linebacker in some of
08:09the physicality that he shows.
08:10I'd be interested to see that.
08:11I would not necessarily bank on he is their back.
08:14He is the Jalen Petrie replacement.
08:16I think you need to throw bodies.
08:17Well, maybe not a lot of bodies.
08:18You got to cover, man.
08:19But you got to throw maybe a couple dudes at that position.
08:22Remember, last training camp, didn't it feel like it was just Arthur Millett?
08:25No, it was Arthur Millett and Miles Bryant.
08:26I guess I should give credit.
08:28But ain't no Arthur Millett to throw at the possibility of seeing if he could do this.
08:31And ain't no Miles Bryant here.
08:33So maybe Mapu is the guy that ultimately holds on to that, right?
08:37As that depth linebacker, Marte Mapu, maybe he ends up doing this.
08:43But I think that's a possibility of maybe seeing, especially in how high regard they hold Jalen Petrie.
08:48Plus, Jalen Petrie missed games recently.
08:51Obviously, that's how he ends up in the guarding cap.
08:53Not to say that he definitely will continue to miss games.
08:55But there's a reason why you go for depth and you're in that place.
08:59And there was a drop-off when he was out, too.
09:01Yes, there was.
09:01Yes, there was.
09:03512 says they're going to double-dip at quarterback.
09:06Thank you for that joke.
09:07I appreciate the levity.
09:10Let's draft two.
09:11Four full-blown Cleveland Browns.
09:13Sick. Sick behavior.
09:14Someone said Nick is going to cook and land Sadiq.
09:16I think that that would be the tight end double.
09:18If you get Sadiq, who very much shows up as just he's a weapon, then you get a Y in
09:23line blocking tight end.
09:24I think that's how that would have to happen.
09:26Somebody said defensive interior.
09:28Interestingly enough, I could see this in a similar way if we're talking about styles.
09:32Because one of the things that...
09:33The run stopper and then the guy that can get the three gap.
09:36Yes.
09:36Yeah.
09:36Yes.
09:37Because, honestly, there's been a lot of guys.
09:38Like, I was looking at the Peter Woods out of Clemson.
09:41Defensive tackle out of Clemson.
09:42People have been talking about Peter Woods.
09:43And the thing about him is, he's more 3-4 eye, right?
09:46Three or four technique.
09:48And that's what they've had.
09:49And I asked the question of you, and I think I asked Clint as well.
09:53Do you think that D'Amico Rhines really wants that big body, you know, one tech, you know, defensive...
09:58I think everybody does.
09:59...run stopper?
10:00Yeah.
10:00Or do you think that it is indeed the style that...
10:03Because I know that some people have been like, well, D'Amico Rhines like these three technique guys.
10:08...a tandem of them.
10:09And I was wondering how much of that is necessity.
10:10Well, what happens if you can get one of each and you add into that defensive line room?
10:15It'd be a lot because you already have four guys.
10:17It would be understandable.
10:19You'd already have four guys that I can easily see you playing with.
10:21Adding two more makes it so that one or two of those, probably two of those guys fall out of
10:26what you're talking about in a 53-man roster.
10:27But, again, you're in a place where you have the luxury of really just adding guys wherever you see fit.
10:32But, yeah, that's how we go.
10:33Somebody said tank for arch.
10:35I don't know.
10:35I don't know if I...
10:36Actually, in fact, I do know.
10:37I do know.
10:38No.
10:39That is a playbook.
10:39Can you see this team tanking?
10:41Oh, my goodness.
10:42They'd win eight games by accident.
10:45Hey, people would tear the city down.
10:47Yeah.
10:47People would tear the city asunder.
10:49Yeah, but we got arch.
10:50Okay.
10:52All right.
10:52Hey, they're still going to be talking about arch if one quarterback don't play well.
10:55This is true.
10:56Also, can you imagine how people end up acting if you end up with Arch Manning, who has had his
11:01ups and downs in his college career to come after C.J. Stroud?
11:06Yeah.
11:06Buddy, we are not serious people, and that would not help us be serious at all.
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