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00:00:22Whoa, I've never driven a steam car before, happy Easter from Hampshire, wind in the air,
00:00:29steam coming out of the bottom, the rumble of the engine, the sense of the ground beneath it,
00:00:34it's just like having your own steam engine really. Oh goodness me, welcome to Love Your Weekend.
00:01:19Happy Easter.
00:01:20You know, spring into summer really is the most glorious time of year to be outside and the
00:01:27perfect time of year to delve into all things seasonally British. Say hello to Manor Farm's
00:01:34very own Easter bunny. This is Cottontail. Originally, much like me, she's absolutely itching to get going.
00:01:42So let's hop to it this Easter Sunday. That suit you, Cottontail? You don't look as if you're going to
00:01:48hop
00:01:48to anything, do you? But you're very happy, that's all right. Coming up, funny, feisty, honest, and she
00:01:53makes for brilliant company. Dame Sheila Hancock on her incredible zest for life. And from a handsome
00:01:59pilot in Foil's War, to winning the hearts of Lady Mary in Downton Abbey, to starring in a whole host
00:02:07of
00:02:07musicals, Julian Ovendon continuing to captivate audiences once more as he returns to the West End
00:02:13stage, this time in Cole Porter's High Society. And Simon Lycett takes his Easter floral decorations
00:02:21to a whole new level. And it's not just the kids having fun this Easter. Tom Serge is here with
00:02:27his
00:02:28tempting chocolatey cocktails, including a chocolate bunny martini. Don't be alarmed, Conte.
00:02:34And a white chocolate amaretto. And it's time of hard work and long hours for farmers,
00:02:41but it's also a time made joyful by cuddling newborns. We catch up with one young farmer currently
00:02:49in the throes of the lambing season.
00:02:56But first, our leisurely morning starts right here. Please welcome to the Manor Farm stage,
00:03:01Dame Sheila Hancock and Julian Ovendon. And since it's Easter, the Manor Farm mimosas are out. Look,
00:03:08a nice big treat there, isn't it? I mean, how special is Easter, Sheila, to you?
00:03:13Actually, it's very special to me. I'm a Quaker and we don't celebrate any anniversaries particularly,
00:03:20but I always find Easter a very moving time, the crucifixion. And it's full of human suffering.
00:03:30And a man behaving unbelievably well while people are hating, rejecting, ignoring him. And still,
00:03:40he remains a good man. And he's such a good example. I turn to it constantly. There's a wonderful thing,
00:03:48you like classical music, and so do I, but one of my most favourite phrases in St. Matthew's Passion,
00:03:54and there's this marvellous phrase in the music, and he wept bitterly.
00:03:59Yeah, I know, glorious. It's clear classical music is very close to both of you. You're particularly
00:04:05well-known, Julian, if you're musicals, but what sort of classical music do you listen to?
00:04:10Well, I started, I suppose, with a diet of English choral music. I went to school as a chorister,
00:04:16so I was generally at school still singing. But then I love all sorts of, all sorts of music.
00:04:26It's weird. I live with an opera singer, so a lot of opera.
00:04:29Kate Royal. Yeah, a lot of opera. Lovely.
00:04:33I, it's difficult. So when you're doing it, it's a bit like, it's a bit like being actor. You don't
00:04:38necessarily want to sort of surround yourself when you're, you know, clocking off in the evening,
00:04:42and not necessarily surrounding yourself with the thing you do in the day. So we don't actually
00:04:45listen to an awful lot of music at home. But I want, I so want everybody to have the opportunity
00:04:53to try it. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? I'm passionate. I do a lot of work with youngsters,
00:04:58introducing them to music. You know, they hear a piece of music in the lift and they think,
00:05:03oh, that's nice. Oh, did you know that's by a bloke called Brahms and he's actually written this bit.
00:05:09Do you want to hear this bit? Especially live, though. There is something amazing,
00:05:13amazing and also essential if you're experiencing something to have it live. I think that surprises a
00:05:19lot of people who don't go to live music, you know, pop concerts apart, but who don't go to
00:05:24orchestral music, big orchestral concerts. It's amazing. And when you go in and when you're part
00:05:28of it and it surrounds you and it grabs your emotions. I mean, it's so emotional. Let's have
00:05:33a bit of fun. Two great stage actors here and film actors and television actors. Mishaps,
00:05:39things that go wrong, because we all love it when you have these, you know, things collapse,
00:05:44things go wrong. I've had so many. We were just saying we've had so many. Audiences love it when
00:05:50things go wrong. I was doing a show in New York and I had to, it was a very, very
00:05:57simple scene.
00:05:57I had to come in and sit down on, I was playing the character of Death and I had to
00:06:01come in and sit
00:06:01down on this quite slightly flimsy rattan sort of sofa and as I came on, I was singing at the
00:06:08time and
00:06:08I sat down and I went straight through it. Completely broke the whole thing and ended up on my,
00:06:14on my bum. It slightly ruined the, uh, the impression that I was trying to go in. Falling over on
00:06:19stage is
00:06:19always... Well, if you're playing Death, you're dying on stage. You gave it a new meaning then, really. Indeed.
00:06:24I once played, at the Royal Shakespeare Company, I did a play called Titus Andronicus. I had to
00:06:30end up eating my sons in a pie, which you can imagine was quite difficult not to giggle. And Roger,
00:06:36Roger Allen was one of my sons and we had to make our entrance with a wonderful old prop that
00:06:42belongs
00:06:42to the RSC, which are these horses. They're very heavy wooden horse heads with long skirts, which
00:06:49you're under and you gallop on like this and it looks as though you're coming on on a horse. Well,
00:06:55I came on, Patrick Stewart was playing Titus Andronicus and he took it terribly seriously. Men
00:07:01loved playing Kings, you know, and he really loved it. I fell over and I was on the floor,
00:07:09surrounded by my skirt with the head having died on the floor and Roger Allen then started giggling.
00:07:16I started giggling. Patrick Stewart was livid with us because we were in at the entrance.
00:07:23It was just one. And it went on for the entire show. And I had this scene where I had
00:07:28to realise
00:07:29that I, my sons were cooked in a pie. I just could not stop laughing. It just seems so silly.
00:07:36It's a one, it's sort of a, both a wonderful experience not being able to stop laughing and
00:07:40also horrendous. And you dread it every night when you come to that bit. Yeah. You think,
00:07:45I mustn't laugh. I mustn't laugh. And I, you spend the whole day thinking, I will not laugh at that
00:07:49bit tonight. And the more you've got someone in this case, like Patrick Stewart, being cross.
00:07:53Oh, the more you want to laugh. Absolutely. Ian McKellen. I was in a play with Ian McKellen and
00:07:59everybody had to die at the end of it. And I, I had to die over a thing and I
00:08:04was giggling as usual.
00:08:05And he actually turned to me and said, stop it. Pull yourself together. I got worse. I got worse.
00:08:15But on the whole, that's awfully bad behaviour. But I, I. People love it though. Oh, they do.
00:08:20They do, but it's naughty. It is naughty. Naughty sometimes nice. Well, you can be as naughty as you like
00:08:25on the show.
00:08:26You can laugh as much as you want as well. Now you've both had the opportunity to play villains,
00:08:31which I've always suspected is far more fun than playing somebody who's a goody two shoes.
00:08:37I, I certainly find it more fun. Do you? Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Much, much more fun.
00:08:42Who wants to play good people? Good people are boring. Yes. Well, no, I would say that.
00:08:47But I, I, I, I actually, it's fun to get inside the mind of somebody who behaves badly.
00:08:55I mean, an actor's job is to actually feel what that person, if you're a murderer, you've got to find
00:09:02a way of feeling the way that person felt when they committed that murder.
00:09:07Up to a point, presumably, and then stop. Yes. You don't actually do it. But you have to think of
00:09:12it.
00:09:12Also, it's like, it's, it's a mistake to think that we're good or bad. I mean, as an actor, you're
00:09:16trying to, you're trying to empathise with something, as Sheila said.
00:09:19You're trying to understand. Absolutely. Because we've all got all these elements inside. But the trouble is, you always end
00:09:24up, don't you, as an actor, actually believing your right to have murdered that person.
00:09:30Yes. And the, and the, the evilness of you is, is utterly justified. Have you, villainous role, Julian? Yeah, quite
00:09:38a lot in, on television.
00:09:39You know, I mean, I've done a lot of, of American television and being English, they like you to be
00:09:43the villain. You know, um, I think Keir Starmer is finding that at the moment.
00:09:50I have to say, I've, I've been watching an old series of yours. Oh, yeah.
00:09:55Of Foil's War. I've, I've got obsessed with this wonderful series. Oh, it's superb.
00:10:00It's from way back. It actually, I think took over on, after John's programme, Morse Finish. Sure.
00:10:06And it's the most amazing depiction of what I remember the war was like. The calmness,
00:10:13the lack of emotional weeping and wailing and being frightened, just getting on with it.
00:10:20Stoicism, yeah. There you are. Did you pay her 15 quid for that?
00:10:22Money well spent. Thank you both. Much more from Sheila and Julian later on.
00:10:28Coming up, there'll be no abstinence in today's Best of British. Our very own Willy Wonka, Tom Sergi,
00:10:33is tempting us with some chocolatey cocktails, including a cream egg white Russian with a coffee
00:10:39liqueur. Simon Lycett's making the most of the seasonal bounty with his Easter bouquet,
00:10:45packed with spring delights. And they called it puppy love. Oh, I guess they'll never know.
00:10:58Yes. A cockapoo called Bramble and a Cocker Spaniel called Ivy. Oh, they love it. We meet the puppies,
00:11:06taking man's best friend to a whole new level. Bramble, I've got my eye on you. Be very,
00:11:11very, very careful. He likes having his tummy tickled. Don't we all? Ah, the memories, the memories.
00:11:18Yes, I'll be back with Simon, his bouquets, and the puppies right after this. Julian,
00:11:23help yourself to a cucumber sandwich. I've been enjoying you. Cheers, all. Cheers.
00:11:42Welcome back to Love Your Weekend. It's the first week of April and life abounds.
00:11:48Lambing is in full swing. Tractors are back to work after winter's pause. And the trees are becoming
00:11:55vibrant and verdant. The promise of more to come. And there's more to come on the show today,
00:12:00including Easter chocktails, baby lambs. And Leslie Joseph gets up close and personal with
00:12:07magnolias. And he can sing, act, dance, and woo with the best of them. Just ask Lady Mary.
00:12:15Star of Downton Abbey, Foil's War, and man of a thousand musicals, Julian Ovenden, on why we're
00:12:21all invited to the most swell party of the year, as he takes to the stage in Cole Porter's High
00:12:27Society.
00:12:28But first, Easter, for the lucky ones among us, is a time to relax and reflect.
00:12:33But for the green-fingered, it's also a perfect time to appreciate all the beautiful British flowers
00:12:40that this time of year has to offer. To showcase how to use some of your garden blooms. To bring
00:12:46a
00:12:46splash of colour to your Easter celebrations, floral designer Simon Lycett with a cornucopia
00:12:53of goodies here. Aren't they lovely? And did you lay that yourself?
00:12:57This was laid by the ooh-ah bird, I think. And I think we all know why. It's an ostrich,
00:13:03Jane.
00:13:03It's fantastic, isn't it? How do you get the top off? Well, and they're almost like porcelain,
00:13:07so you have to use one of those little hand-cutty drill things. A bit triggering,
00:13:12because the noise is quite dental and the smell is very dental. They come with a tiny hole,
00:13:17so you could just use them as a bud vase, but I've made a bit of a bigger hole, and
00:13:20it becomes a
00:13:22gorgeous vase. And then I've got a little urn, which acts as a wonderful egg cup for it. Add a
00:13:29bit of water. They're not porous, so they're nice. Aren't they actually, as you said, they are porcelain,
00:13:34aren't they? Yes, pretty much. And then just using your hand as a vase, just an assortment of stems,
00:13:41things like these really cute little butterfly ranunculus, which are one of the newer flowers
00:13:46that we're getting now. They're gorgeous, aren't they? Aren't they cute? They look like Japanese
00:13:49lemones, don't they? And they've got a sort of iridescence to the petals, which just shimmers
00:13:54and sparkles. These is one of my favourites, Ertel Muscari. Muscari, yeah. And the thing about them
00:13:59is, of course, they have to track the early insects, which is why they need as much in their
00:14:03armoury as possible to just draw them in. And then, of course, we love a little bit of
00:14:07a little bit of fragrance Solidor. So I'm threading the flowers in. I'm making sure that I haven't got any
00:14:14lower stems. You want to trim off or remove all those leaves, otherwise the water can get a bit
00:14:18soupy. Now, I've got to ask you about helibods. I know I ask every time, because a lot of people,
00:14:21you cut these, you put them in water and get... They do. Secret? Secret really is, if you're going
00:14:26to cut them from the garden, try and cut them, get them straight into water. But a lot of people
00:14:31will
00:14:31use a knife and just take one slice, very lightly, all the way down the length of the stem. I
00:14:36also
00:14:37sometimes will put them into hand-hot water, leave them, then top them up with cold water.
00:14:42They are tricky things to deal with. So ideally, always arrange in water and especially when it's
00:14:48your helibors. Right. And then just tie it off. I've got... This is a paper-covered wire,
00:14:54so it's not too aggressive on the stems because spring stems are all quite soft. It looks just
00:14:59like... Yeah, it looks... It's the same colour as the green plastic coating, but yeah. So it goes around,
00:15:04a couple of twists, snip that off and then trim those stems. And because I've got some lilac in there,
00:15:11I just want to go in and find that lilac stem and split the end because lilac again is something
00:15:16that is a bit tricky within your vase. And then you have a gorgeous little fragrant
00:15:21treat for Easter. It's as good as a Burford brown, that isn't it?
00:15:26Now, are you back later? I am, yes. Wonderful. More ideas.
00:15:30More ideas. Well, they're always inspirational and these tell you that Easter's a ride, don't they?
00:15:40Now, spring has always been a season of renewal and not much captures the spirit of Easter and new
00:15:46beginnings quite like a litter of lively puppies. These tiny bundles of fur, much like Easter itself,
00:15:54are a celebration of hope and fresh starts. So sit back, relax and get ready for a dose of puppy
00:16:02joy.
00:16:02Welcome back Manor Farm Vet, Bolo Esser, along with puppy trainer Carol Wright. Welcome to you both.
00:16:09And we've got with us here, we have Anique with Biscuit and Rachel with Waffle, two of the best behaved
00:16:16puppies
00:16:16I have ever seen. Rachel, what is your dog and how old?
00:16:22Waffle is a Sheltie, a Shetland sheepdog and he's four and a half months old.
00:16:26Right. And Anique? This is Biscuit, she's 15 weeks old and yeah, she's a bundle of joy.
00:16:32And the breeds then from your point of view, Bolo? I think they're both excellent breeds. I'm a bit of
00:16:37a
00:16:37terrier person as well. So we've got some working lines in there as well. So there is that instinct
00:16:42to work from both of them as well. But the thing is that with a terrier you've got a lot
00:16:45more of that
00:16:46ratting and chasing small game kind of instinct there. So sometimes they can lean towards destructive
00:16:52behaviours if we haven't nicked it in the bud early when they're a young puppy. And then with our
00:16:57Shelties, they're a little bit more calmer than our terriers. Now Carol, training isn't the same
00:17:01for every kind of puppy. It obviously has to vary a bit. Well, the training that they need is actually
00:17:06very similar. I think the basics, the foundations of training are the same for all puppies. But
00:17:14obviously there are some distinct breed differences when you're working with them. Some obviously are
00:17:21very quick to learn, some really struggle because of distraction and particularly, you know, you do
00:17:27find in classes you have some puppies that are actually quite shy and lack confidence and we need
00:17:33to spend time with them building confidence. And I think a lot of people underestimate
00:17:40how much time they need to actually spend with their puppy. Rachel, is that true of you and Waffle?
00:17:46Yes. Yeah, we knew that having a puppy would be quite a responsibility in terms of time and things,
00:17:53but completely ignored the fact that he wants to be involved in everything we do,
00:17:58whether it's unloading the dishwasher, doing the laundry, getting ready for work, everything and
00:18:05anything he wants to be involved in. So everything takes longer. Yeah. And how about you and Biscuit?
00:18:10I mean, same sort of thing. Yeah, dishwasher surfer is what we call her.
00:18:14You have to remember that at this age, this is the age where their brains are forming,
00:18:18their brains are, so they really want that, there's that inquisition, they're interested in everything.
00:18:21So they're finding their boundaries, aren't they? Exactly. The boundaries that we create for them. Exactly.
00:18:27This early learning stage is super important for them because all the behaviours they learn now,
00:18:33they will carry into adulthood. And because they're like sponges in terms of learning,
00:18:38they very quickly pick up not just the good behaviours that we want, but also some of the behaviours that
00:18:44we don't want. So we're about to meet another puppy, I think. Yes, we've got a little sprocker called
00:18:48Jerry. Right. And your sprocker is a Springer and Cocker Spaniel. Yes. Probably the most alert
00:18:57mix of spaniels that you can possibly get. Absolutely. So our sprocker is Jerry and his
00:19:03handler is Abbey. Welcome to you both. Now this is a Cocker with longer legs from the Springer,
00:19:09isn't it really? Exactly. So the Springer is slightly bigger than the Cocker and then we've got the best of
00:19:13both worlds here. We hope it's the best and not the worst. Exactly. And when you've got the Springer Cocker
00:19:17mix,
00:19:18you're definitely going to get that highly incentivised dog, nose, lots of energy, they're
00:19:23full of beans, so they just want to go and play and play. So I think this is where training
00:19:26gets
00:19:26a lot more important. But also it's finding that motivator because some dogs are motivated by food
00:19:32and something like a Cocker, a Sprocker, you're going to be motivated more so by maybe activities.
00:19:38By people. Exactly. Abbey, is that your experience as well? Tell us about Jerry. Age?
00:19:44So he's coming up to six months now. Right. Yes, we got him into training a bit later on
00:19:48than we probably should have, which Carol might tell you. But he's had two sessions now.
00:19:56Have you noticed the difference? Yes, absolutely. He's a lot calmer. I know it doesn't look like it,
00:20:01but he actually is. I think the environment, this is one of these high arousal environments for this
00:20:08type of breed. Yeah. And I think the other thing is, I think the training is important for all dogs,
00:20:14but I think particularly once you start talking working breeds and spaniels and collies,
00:20:21they all need a job. Yeah. And they all really thrive on the training. And I think the thing about
00:20:28them is that if you don't give them that job, if you don't give them enough to do, they tend
00:20:32to go
00:20:33self-employed. Exactly. What a lovely way of putting it. Well, Abbey and Jerry, who's now occupied in eating
00:20:40something, I'm sure is okay. Thank you very much indeed. Let's have a look at the basic training
00:20:47exercises then. First up, Jason and Bramble. Bramble is about seven months old, a Cocker Spaniel,
00:20:53working Cocker. Close. And she's quite excited by her environment, but that is absolutely fine.
00:20:59Jason's doing exactly the right thing. Bramble would love to come and have a really good sniff
00:21:04around the bales. Yeah. Oh, he's beginning to get around here. And around the cameras. So we are just
00:21:11waiting. That's it. That's really good, Jason. Being a Cocker Spaniel, we can smell absolutely
00:21:16everything that's on here. Bramble, close. So we've just lost our concentration, but look,
00:21:22that's super. Bolo, what's becoming really evident here is the requirement of patience in the owner.
00:21:27It's very easy for you to be frustrated by a puppy at such a young age. So you want to
00:21:31have a lot of
00:21:32patience, deep breaths, control your energy as you're training them, because you want to make
00:21:36sure that you're calm so that they can remain calm. And when I talked to Myrian with Sheepdogs,
00:21:41he was saying it's always short spells of doing it. Don't tire them doing it. Give them in regular,
00:21:47short spells of it. A few minutes at a time. It's absolutely plenty for a young puppy. Well,
00:21:51the cones have gone. We now have toys sprinkled everywhere for Maple, who's here with Monica.
00:21:56So what's going to happen here then, Cal? We're going to be doing a recall. Now,
00:22:00we've got quite a lot of distractions already here, but we've added some in the form of toys
00:22:05for Maple. And Monica is just going to be showing Maple that she's got a very, very yummy treat.
00:22:12And hopefully that treat is going to be sufficient that Maple's not going to feel inclined to
00:22:18head for all the other lovely snippy snails that are going. And if Monica wants to walk to the end
00:22:23of
00:22:23that alley, and then we're going to call Maple to us. Now, if you haven't got her focused,
00:22:31don't call her. Don't call her. Go back. But yeah, so let's go back with that treat and show it
00:22:38again,
00:22:38because she got a little bit distracted. That's much better. Oh, right. You've got the eye.
00:22:43OK. Now call her. People come.
00:22:48Well, that's interesting. There we are. Well done. So you went and you got the look,
00:22:52and then call. Yes. We've got their attention and they're locked in. That's when you know that
00:22:56you can tell them what to do or how you want them to respond. That's exactly right. So while we've
00:23:01been
00:23:01talking, the course has been set. And now we can let Ivy do a bit with Iona at the helm.
00:23:10So tell us
00:23:10what's going to happen here, Carol. OK, so Iona is going to be asking Ivy to sit and wait. And
00:23:17Iona's
00:23:18going to walk to the other side of the three jumps. And she's going to recall Ivy through. And then
00:23:25she's
00:23:26going to ask Ivy to come into the middle position at the end. So she's doing essentially a
00:23:31recall into middle. Here we go then. Sit. And wait. No distractions. Look at that. Looking.
00:23:44Ivy, come. Middle. Oh, impressive.
00:23:49Yes. Well done, Iona. Well done, Ivy. So what breed have we got here? This is a working
00:23:56Cocker Spaniel. Really? Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Iona, well done. With all the cameras on you and Ivy.
00:24:03So sure as well. So that, you were saying, 16 months old here now. Yes, absolutely. So we've seen the
00:24:07passageway right the way through now. Yeah, absolutely. Yes. Well, thank you to Bola and
00:24:12Carol and to all our, I was going to say contestants, but they are in a way, aren't they?
00:24:18Coming up, well, the Easter bunny may be bringing baskets of chocolate and candy. Tom
00:24:23surges making sure that the adults are having a great time too, even after the egg hunts are well
00:24:28and truly over. He's here with his selection of choctales, including a tempting sounding
00:24:34chocolate bunny martini and a cocoa twist on a pina colada. Oh, excuse me. Intriguing.
00:24:42And to a man who always intrigues with his suave charm, impeccable vocals and undeniable screen presence.
00:24:50Life's so not fair. Yes, from Edelweiss, to People Will Say We're In Love, to
00:24:55Some Enchanted Evening. Some Enchanted Evening. He sung them all. Julian Ovenden on starring in nearly
00:25:01all of my favourite musicals. Join me, I'm Julian, for some enchanting chat right after this.
00:25:22Welcome back to Love Your Weekend. Still ahead. Intelligent, social and naturally curious with fantastic memories.
00:25:30There are a few things in the world as cute as a newborn lamb. It's a shame to grow up
00:25:36in there.
00:25:36How one young farmer's coping with the busiest time in the farming diary.
00:25:40Lambing season. Not much sleep, I would imagine. Also coming up, we meet the first ever sculptor
00:25:46in residence for the British Army's Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment.
00:25:50Zoe Carmichael takes equine inspiration to a whole new level.
00:25:54But first, to a theatrical jack-of-all-trades, from dramas like Foyle's War, Downton Abbey,
00:26:02and calling the shots in trigger point, to lighting up the musical stage with performances like these.
00:26:09Oh, what a whistled morning. Oh, what a whistled day.
00:26:18My God, a whistled ceiling. As this is going, I will come, I will come, I will come, I will
00:26:33come.
00:26:39Oh, what a whistled day.
00:26:55Oh, what a whistled day.
00:27:19Oh, what a beautiful morning.
00:27:21Maria, get happy, being alive and with a huge orchestra.
00:27:25I don't really like you, Julian Ovington.
00:27:28Why am I sitting here talking to someone who can do all that?
00:27:32The feeling when you're doing that.
00:27:35Oh, it's some of the most wonderful vocal music ever written.
00:27:40I'm terrified doing it because they're in big halls and stuff like that,
00:27:44but to do it with such an amazing orchestra, it was a dream for me.
00:27:51Is it the high notes that are terrifying?
00:27:55Maria is a particularly difficult song, but I like a challenge.
00:28:00But it is a little bit of a tightrope walk.
00:28:05Actually, the hardest thing about that song is you do that big high thing
00:28:07and then the end of the song is very, very, very small and intimate
00:28:12and also quite high, and that's much harder, technically.
00:28:16We'll talk about drama in a minute, but it's drama and music.
00:28:18And music and singing and musicals have always been at the core of what you do.
00:28:23Are those the real, this is why I do this,
00:28:26because this is the feeling I like best?
00:28:28I didn't set out to do musicals, I have to say.
00:28:30My musical training was much more kind of classical and choral.
00:28:33I was a chorister when I was a kid.
00:28:36And when I started out to be an actor, you know,
00:28:38I wanted to be Peter O'Toole or Roger Moore.
00:28:43But I sort of fell into musicals.
00:28:45My second job was a musical at the Don Mar, a Stephen Sondheim show.
00:28:49And I sort of discovered it as I went along.
00:28:53Did you work with him?
00:28:54I did.
00:28:55He came to the dress rehearsal.
00:28:57In fact, there's a great moment.
00:28:59We were, we, the show's Merrily Wrong starts as a school graduation.
00:29:03And the, the show, the Don Mar, the production we did,
00:29:06we started outside as kids.
00:29:09And then we processed in, in our robes, and we started the show.
00:29:13And we were doing the, we were doing the dress rehearsal,
00:29:16the first, yeah, the first run through maybe.
00:29:19And we were outside in the foyer of the Don Mar.
00:29:22And then out of the corner of my eye,
00:29:24I saw, I saw this elderly gentleman in a sort of slightly dirty Mac.
00:29:28So thinking I was being helpful, I went up to him and I said,
00:29:31um, oh, excuse me, sir, the show doesn't start for another week,
00:29:35but if you want to get tickets, the box office is downstairs
00:29:37and I'm sure they'll be able to help you.
00:29:39And he looked at him and he went, I wrote this stuff.
00:29:44So that was my first meeting with him.
00:29:46But his, why his music and his shows work still
00:29:50is that they speak to people on a very human level.
00:29:55And it's about real, real people.
00:29:58And what real people feel.
00:30:00And a lot of musicals are a sort of, a sort of fantasy lands, perhaps, you know?
00:30:06And his stuff is always anchored in, in quite uncomfortable feelings.
00:30:11Yes.
00:30:12And there's often a lot of heartbreak and resentment.
00:30:16You're about to go into High Society, playing Bing Crosby.
00:30:20Yeah.
00:30:21Or Cary Grant.
00:30:23Or, no, yes, yes.
00:30:25So High Society, Cole Porter musical, fantastic, you know, very, very famous film,
00:30:29which is based on a fantastic other film,
00:30:32which I think is based on a play called The Philadelphia Story.
00:30:34So, yes, we're doing it at the Barbican and then on a national tour
00:30:37around the country, around the British Isles and Dublin,
00:30:41for the rest of the year.
00:30:43So it's going to be, yeah, it's going to be fun.
00:30:44Shall I give you a taster of what you're meant to read?
00:30:47Oh, do you have to?
00:30:48Oh, go on.
00:30:48Well, just to remind everybody just how brilliant High Society is.
00:30:51Here's the film.
00:30:52Have you heard it's in the stars?
00:30:55Next July we collide with Mars.
00:30:59Well, did you ever?
00:31:01What a swell party.
00:31:04Swell party.
00:31:08Swell again, elegant party.
00:31:11This is...
00:31:18Such deliciously close harmony, Bing Crosby and Frank Sinatra.
00:31:22Pure Hollywood.
00:31:23I mean, you can see the kind of old-school confidence and charm
00:31:27they both have there, can't you?
00:31:28Isn't it?
00:31:28It's interesting watching them both.
00:31:30It's a little bit like comparing Gene Kelly and Fred Astaire
00:31:33in terms of their dancing techniques.
00:31:35Bing Crosby is almost not...
00:31:37He almost not sings.
00:31:39Do you know what I mean?
00:31:39It just sort of comes out of him.
00:31:41It's, like, effortless.
00:31:42He speaks music.
00:31:43Do you know what I mean?
00:31:44Yeah, I do.
00:31:44Whereas Frank Sinatra, I mean,
00:31:46it's one of the greatest singers of all time
00:31:48and his phrasing and everything,
00:31:49but there's much more of a sense of, I don't know,
00:31:54craft about Sinatra and he's thought about it.
00:31:57It's wonderful, yes.
00:31:59So, I mean, I'm in trouble.
00:32:01No, you're not.
00:32:02No, you're not.
00:32:03Because we've seen your musical credentials.
00:32:04You'll be OK.
00:32:06But it's fine.
00:32:06It's nice to do something.
00:32:08It's nice to reinvent something.
00:32:09Going to the straight acting, I mean,
00:32:11it's wonderful to discover that Sheila at the top of the show said,
00:32:14Foil's War, I've just discovered Foil's War.
00:32:17And you had this series that we at Home Love and We Watch
00:32:21playing Foil, Christopher Foil, Michael Kitchen's son,
00:32:26during that whole episode of the start of the war
00:32:29right the way through to the end.
00:32:31Here is Julian in Foil's War.
00:32:34I hate goodbyes.
00:32:36Oh, come on, Sam.
00:32:37It's only depth in them.
00:32:38It's not that far.
00:32:40I know.
00:32:43We're all right.
00:32:45There are always weekends.
00:32:46Please don't try to cheer them up anymore, Andrew.
00:32:50Well, you'll look after Dad for me.
00:32:54We'll look after each other.
00:32:55Good luck, Sam.
00:32:58And you.
00:33:24Beautifully written, beautifully filmed, beautifully acted,
00:33:27Foil's War.
00:33:28You, Honeysuckle Weeks, Michael Kitchen.
00:33:31It's terribly moving.
00:33:32Still, it's a shame you were such a cad.
00:33:36Because you'd left her down, didn't you?
00:33:38I can take you to task about this now.
00:33:41Yeah, people get very angry about that.
00:33:43Well, it shows you made your character's believable, doesn't it?
00:33:45I suppose so, yes.
00:33:46I mean, for me, it was a great experience
00:33:48because it was my first job on camera.
00:33:52I'm working with Michael, who I think is a great actor
00:33:57and also a great technician.
00:34:01It's a little bit of a mystery working on camera.
00:34:05How to be natural, as I'm sure you know.
00:34:08I mean, you're brilliant at it.
00:34:10No, but I can only play one character.
00:34:11No, no, but in terms of being natural and being yourself,
00:34:14that's the hardest thing to do.
00:34:16And to be able just to be able to breathe
00:34:18and to be able to be still
00:34:21and to be able to let the audience in,
00:34:23he was, he's brilliant at that.
00:34:26And I certainly learned an awful lot.
00:34:28I remember Alan Bennett saying to me once,
00:34:29he'd been working with Kenneth Branagh
00:34:31way back on Fortunes of War.
00:34:35Yeah, I remember that show.
00:34:36Yeah, yeah, with Emma Thompson.
00:34:37Was it Emma Thompson?
00:34:38Emma Thompson, Ken Branagh.
00:34:39And Alan played a part of the professoral lecturing.
00:34:41And he said, oh, no, love.
00:34:42He said, I felt watching Ken work,
00:34:44I just felt as though I would pull him faces.
00:34:47And it is that, there's a stillness about it, isn't there?
00:34:50And Michael's like that, particularly.
00:34:53Yeah, because the camera,
00:34:53you let the camera, I suppose, do the work.
00:34:55Although you are working,
00:34:57I mean, people say, you know, you do less on camera.
00:35:00Well, to a certain extent, that's true.
00:35:02But I think you have to work harder emotionally.
00:35:05You have to work harder inside.
00:35:07Yes.
00:35:08Just to, you know,
00:35:10and then let the camera just pick it up.
00:35:13But it was an amazing experience.
00:35:15And also to be in a show where,
00:35:17you know, people still, like Sheila today,
00:35:21saying how much she loves it,
00:35:23has a place in a kind of,
00:35:24it has a sort of national,
00:35:26I don't know, consciousness,
00:35:28which is, yeah, it's a rather privilege.
00:35:30It does, because as Sheila said at the top,
00:35:31it was honest.
00:35:32It showed what it really felt like to be there at that time.
00:35:35It wasn't sensationalist or gung-ho.
00:35:37No.
00:35:37Anything like that.
00:35:38It showed.
00:35:39No.
00:35:39Yeah.
00:35:40Yeah, and I suppose, yeah,
00:35:41because a lot of drama now is very much,
00:35:42you know, there's a lot of tears.
00:35:45Yeah.
00:35:45People think that you have to kind of,
00:35:47you know, go to...
00:35:48To get an award.
00:35:49To get an award, you have to be happy.
00:35:50Yeah, you have to be operatic
00:35:51and grandstanding,
00:35:53and I think that I don't,
00:35:54I turn, for me,
00:35:56I don't tend to be moved by that.
00:35:58I tend to be moved by people
00:36:00who are trying not to cry,
00:36:01rather than, you know, crying.
00:36:04Bless you.
00:36:05Good luck in our society.
00:36:07Now, to quote William Shakespeare,
00:36:09April hath put a spirit of youth in everything,
00:36:12and with it come longer days
00:36:14and more opportunities
00:36:15to capture nature and wildlife
00:36:18in the beautiful British countryside.
00:36:20You've been busy doing just that,
00:36:22so it's only right we show off
00:36:23some of your wonderful photography.
00:36:25It's time, you guessed,
00:36:27for Walk on the Wild Side.
00:36:28where you are,
00:36:56so that's the degree.
00:38:28What's not to like about Simon Leisert's Easter bouquet?
00:38:31We'll see you with Simon and his impressive blues right after this.
00:38:35We'll see you next time.
00:38:45We'll see you next time.
00:38:49Springtime brings with it birdsong, baby animals in the fields, bright flowers emerging from the ground, a few rays of
00:38:58sunshine that push through the clouds, and if you're really lucky, a big patch of blue sky.
00:39:34Here's Clare Rushbrook with Round the Year by Coventry Patmore.
00:39:46The crocus, while the days are dark, unfolds its saffron sheen.
00:39:52At April's touch, the crudest bark discovers gems of green.
00:39:58Then sleep the seasons full of might, while slowly swells the pod, and rounds the peach, and in the night
00:40:07the mushroom bursts the sod.
00:40:10The winter falls, the winter falls, the frozen rut is bound with silver bars, the snow drift heaps against the
00:40:19hut, and night is pierced with stars.
00:40:31Thank you, Clare. Lovely words.
00:40:33Now, heavily scented hyacinths, daffodils with their golden trumpets, and the many textures and colours of tulips.
00:40:42They're all associated with happiness and hope, and quite right too.
00:40:47There really is no season like spring, and as our gardens wake up from their winter sleep, it's no wonder
00:40:54displays of our early risers can put a smile on anyone's face,
00:40:58showing us how we can make the most of this season's blooms, floral designer, the master himself, Simon Lycett.
00:41:06I'll put your tulips down again now, because I felt I wanted to hold them just to explain, you know.
00:41:11Perfect.
00:41:11Aren't they gorgeous? Do you know, it's a shot in the arm, isn't it, especially when the sun shines?
00:41:16All that winter wet and grey.
00:41:18What a difference, a few bits of sun make, and some gorgeous spring flowers.
00:41:22I mean, look at this. What have you done? How many hours did it take you to do that?
00:41:27So there's some fake eggs that you can find, lots of sort of craft suppliers sell them, secured to the
00:41:33basket,
00:41:33and then I just poke some moss in amongst it.
00:41:36A little bit of gingham ribbon to add a bit of Easter fun, and then inside I've got a bowl
00:41:41with some two-inch mesh of chicken wire
00:41:43that I've scrunkled up, and some water, and that's my mechanics.
00:41:46This is pure Doris Day, this, isn't it?
00:41:47Pretty much, but I am a bit.
00:41:51And then anything that's a woody stem, like this lovely gelder.
00:41:55So here I'm going to cut it on an angle, and then I'm just going to split that stem as
00:42:00well.
00:42:00And this makes them take out the moisture better.
00:42:02It makes a lot of difference, and also if you can give it a drink for a day or two
00:42:06beforehand,
00:42:07any of the early foliage that we're starting to cut now from our gardens really benefits
00:42:13if you can let it have two or three days, cut, stand it in water, in the cool, and then
00:42:20arrange it.
00:42:20And with tulits, I often do them right up to the neck of the flower.
00:42:23Yes.
00:42:23So they don't do that swallow down.
00:42:25And it also means when you arrange them, your vases don't need topping up quite as much,
00:42:30because it's amazing how much water they all take up.
00:42:33So using those to form some little clusters, and then another fabulous favourite kick of green
00:42:38is these heavenly hellebores.
00:42:40You know, when you look inside a flower like that, in the spring sunshine,
00:42:45and you see the work of art with those golden-tipped stamens and the petals,
00:42:50dainty white, flushed with lime green.
00:42:52I mean, it's just...
00:42:54And as the petals fall, you get the...
00:42:57Or as the central part of the flower falls,
00:43:01you get the back half of it, as it were, going green rather than white.
00:43:06So it lasts and lasts and lasts.
00:43:08And I like to grow mine in pots, because they can be a little bit sort of...
00:43:12They'll sort of hang their heads quite often.
00:43:14So I grow mine in pots, and then you can move them around so you can actually look at them.
00:43:17They're breeding them now, these Lenten hellebores, with a more upright habit,
00:43:21so that the flowers turn up more than hanging down.
00:43:25And then...
00:43:25Oh, look, lilac.
00:43:26A little bit of lilac.
00:43:27And again, this is a really woody stem, so cut on an angle and split up the stem.
00:43:32And the way I'm arranging, as I'm pushing into my container,
00:43:35what I don't want to do is just jam it down in onto the wire.
00:43:40You need to just negotiate the stems through.
00:43:42Right the way through, which is why you use that wider chicken wire
00:43:45rather than the narrow one, which is more difficult.
00:43:47And then things like these anemones,
00:43:49that are just...
00:43:50To me, they're a fabulous spring flare.
00:43:52They're one of my real faves.
00:43:54Absolutely gorgeous.
00:43:56This...
00:43:56I mean, there's nothing...
00:43:58There's a kind of bashfulness about the way the flower sits there,
00:44:01but nothing remotely bashful about its colour when it fully opens like that.
00:44:05And that black centre's magnificent, isn't it?
00:44:07And that little ruff of green calyx behind the corolla,
00:44:12just a bit of bottomy there.
00:44:14Now, with your tulips, do you take any leaf off?
00:44:16I try and take quite a bit off.
00:44:17And also, when you're arranging tulips,
00:44:19they will grow about three or four inches during the vase life.
00:44:24So just be aware, if you're arranging something
00:44:26and you're not going to use it for a few days,
00:44:28cut them a little bit shorter to allow for them growing.
00:44:31But you can always pop them out,
00:44:32just trim it down and put them back in again afterwards.
00:44:35It's the whole range of colours,
00:44:38the range of, you know, the parrot tulips
00:44:40with their frilly petals that have been sliced at the edges,
00:44:44the lily flower that go in and then come out again,
00:44:47the range of tulips you can get now to grow in the garden.
00:44:50And if you've got a veg patch,
00:44:53go wild and buying tulip bulbs come the autumn.
00:44:56You can plant them right up to Christmas tulips.
00:44:57They're quite happy being planted late.
00:44:59And then, if you plant them on a veg patch,
00:45:01you don't mind cutting them.
00:45:03No.
00:45:03As a cutting...
00:45:05And some of them will come up year after year after year.
00:45:07So little few ranunculus in there.
00:45:09Look at that.
00:45:11Joyous.
00:45:12I mean, how...
00:45:13A Barbara Cartland of a flower.
00:45:15It is, isn't it?
00:45:16It's a fully doubled tutu.
00:45:17There's a ballet.
00:45:18You know, in the old days, when Strictly come dancing,
00:45:21when they used to wear frocks like that,
00:45:22in the days of Peter West and Terry Wogan doing come dancing,
00:45:27that's for the older members of our audience.
00:45:29He'll go back that far.
00:45:31But he's not your audience.
00:45:31With patent leather hair on all the men
00:45:33and a million sequins on the ladies.
00:45:34Yes.
00:45:35All sewn on thy hand by their mothers.
00:45:37Yes.
00:45:38Remember that well.
00:45:39I'm getting a nice little bunch here.
00:45:40Look at these.
00:45:41Oh, look at that, Simon.
00:45:42Look at...
00:45:42Now, what are you doing with that?
00:45:43A little cone of just some bobby-dazzle coloured paper.
00:45:47They were actually sold as little baskets.
00:45:49But then, look, I've got some of these.
00:45:51Oh!
00:45:52Little Easter eggs.
00:45:54So, just sit those in there...
00:45:56Yeah.
00:45:57..and then just nestle that in amongst your arrangement.
00:46:01How wonderful.
00:46:02Look at that.
00:46:02And it means that you can share a few eggs.
00:46:04Yeah, with all the family.
00:46:06But particularly, me.
00:46:09I'll give you one for this.
00:46:10Oh, thank you.
00:46:10Right.
00:46:11Give me a little bunch here.
00:46:13Wonderful.
00:46:14Go on, you put that...
00:46:14I'll put that one in there.
00:46:16I'm always worried about putting things in your arrangement.
00:46:18You do it, you do it.
00:46:20Oh, superb.
00:46:21Simon, you are as ever.
00:46:23A genius.
00:46:24Pleasure.
00:46:25Who wouldn't want that on their table at Easter?
00:46:29Simon, you're a genius.
00:46:30Thank you very much.
00:46:31Happy Easter.
00:46:32Happy Easter.
00:46:33Oh!
00:46:34Don't eat the ones with silver paper on.
00:46:42You're all right.
00:46:43Thank you for those.
00:46:44Thank you very much.
00:46:47Caught me on my very own Easter egg hunt
00:46:49in Manor Farms' chicken coop.
00:46:51Now, did you know egg-giving at Easter
00:46:53goes back hundreds of years?
00:46:56The earliest record of an Easter egg in England
00:46:58was almost 800 years ago, in 1290,
00:47:02when King Edward I bought 450 eggs,
00:47:06had them decorated,
00:47:08then gave them to members of his household.
00:47:11Finding 450 here might be a bit of a stretch.
00:47:14I've got a couple.
00:47:14While I'm looking,
00:47:15time for the latest in our series
00:47:17on Britain's Young Farmers.
00:47:19Today, we're heading to East Sussex
00:47:22to visit Luke Curtis,
00:47:23who's deep in the throes
00:47:25of that most Easter-y of periods,
00:47:28the lambing season.
00:47:39Get them up, then.
00:47:42My journey in farming began when I was 12 years old.
00:47:45I used to help a close family friend out
00:47:47at lambing time in the evenings after school.
00:47:50And then, yeah,
00:47:51my passion for farming began there
00:47:52and just carried on with me
00:47:54until I went to Agricultural College
00:47:56to play for their football academy as a profession.
00:47:59But I knew the head of agriculture there
00:48:02and he talked me into joining the course
00:48:03and I never played a game of football after that.
00:48:07In this journey of farming,
00:48:09you don't have to come from a family farm.
00:48:11It's all about the people you meet
00:48:13and the opportunities that can arise around those people
00:48:15that makes it one of the best jobs in the world.
00:48:19I first started my sheep journey with four ewes,
00:48:23which I got as a graduation present from college
00:48:25and then many moons ago.
00:48:28And now we're at 300 ewes of my own on this holding,
00:48:31currently expanding all the time.
00:48:34So another part of the diversification in my life
00:48:37is that I come and help subcontract.
00:48:39A local farmer gets me in to do the sheep management.
00:48:42We've been lambing here for the past two months.
00:48:45It's a tiring job at this time of year
00:48:47because we are up 24-7.
00:48:50This really is the start of lambing.
00:48:52Now we've got 300 left to do.
00:48:55So we mark up the ewes and lambs with the same number
00:48:59so that when they go outside,
00:49:00we can identify who they belong to
00:49:02if there's an issue that may arise
00:49:04and then we can sort out the problem.
00:49:06It's a good management tool.
00:49:09We've just come in this morning
00:49:10and we've just walked in
00:49:11and we've seen this ewes started lambing
00:49:12and we can tell that this lamb's coming backwards.
00:49:16Normally you want them presented, obviously,
00:49:17two front legs and a nose
00:49:19because it's the most streamlined for them.
00:49:21But when they're coming backwards,
00:49:22you have to kind of intervene
00:49:23and make sure you get them out.
00:49:25So that is what we're going to do
00:49:27is give her a little helping hand
00:49:28and make sure it comes out nice and quick
00:49:31because you don't want the lamb
00:49:32taking its first breath inside the sheep
00:49:34because then it can obviously drown in the birthing fluid.
00:49:37So what we've got now is
00:49:39the second lamb is jumbled up
00:49:41with its brother or sister
00:49:42because she's got three on board.
00:49:44So it's a little bit of a jumble up in there.
00:49:48So now we've got to try and determine
00:49:50which legs belong to which lamb
00:49:52and we're going to try and make mummy do
00:49:54a fair bit of the work
00:49:56seeing as that's a natural way
00:49:58she would normally do it
00:49:59but we've had to help her out a little bit.
00:50:03We'll go get one more out now.
00:50:13So when they come out,
00:50:14we want to make sure that all their air rays
00:50:16are clear as possible
00:50:17which is to kickstart them
00:50:19in this fascinating cycle
00:50:22of them getting up
00:50:23and bonding with the mother
00:50:25but what we also do
00:50:26is make sure they're sitting
00:50:28with their two front legs out
00:50:30so it naturally makes them lift their head up
00:50:32and it extends their airways
00:50:34so they can get a good breath.
00:50:37So this first lamb
00:50:38is no longer than, what,
00:50:40two minutes old
00:50:41and he's already trying to find his feet
00:50:43to get his close bond with his mum
00:50:45and try and get towards that milk
00:50:46which is so vital for them
00:50:47surviving in this early stage
00:50:49because the first bit of colostrum
00:50:50they get from the ewe
00:50:51it's like gold dust.
00:50:53It's so strong of all the antibodies
00:50:54they need to survive.
00:51:00So what we've got happening now is
00:51:02a sheep's seen the newborn lambs
00:51:04and decided she wants to be an auntie
00:51:07and try and mother up
00:51:09with one of these lambs
00:51:10even though they're not hers
00:51:11one of these newborn lambs
00:51:13could think that this sheep
00:51:14is her new mother
00:51:15so then actually this ewe's not given birth yet
00:51:19so she's gained a lamb
00:51:20and then if you try and put
00:51:22the newborn lamb back to her mother
00:51:24she might reject it
00:51:25and so it's important now
00:51:26that we take the ewe
00:51:28that's just given birth
00:51:29with the lambs
00:51:30into an individual pen
00:51:31where she can create that bond
00:51:33between her and her newborn lambs
00:51:35without somebody else interfering.
00:51:40I'm very happy
00:51:41because that's a good start.
00:51:43Today's the due date
00:51:43and they're on time
00:51:44which is the main thing
00:51:45you know
00:51:46that means I've done my part right.
00:51:54Thank you Luke.
00:51:55Coming up
00:51:56how brewers and distillers
00:51:57are getting in on the act
00:51:59luring adult sweet tooths
00:52:01with classic Easter flavours
00:52:03and capturing
00:52:03the spirit of the season
00:52:05with whimsical Easter cocktails.
00:52:08That keen connoisseur
00:52:09of confection
00:52:10Tom Sergi
00:52:11has all bases covered
00:52:13in today's
00:52:14Best of British
00:52:14and she's the
00:52:16household cavalry
00:52:17sculptor in residence.
00:52:19After years
00:52:20in a city job
00:52:21Zoe Carmichael
00:52:22was destined
00:52:23to devote herself
00:52:24to the antique discipline
00:52:25of sculpture
00:52:26and immortalise
00:52:27her favourite subjects
00:52:29horses
00:52:30in bronze.
00:52:31I'll see you with Zoe
00:52:32and her equine bronzes
00:52:34right after this.
00:52:48Welcome back
00:52:49to Love Your Weekend.
00:52:51Coming up
00:52:51you name it
00:52:52she's done it.
00:52:53Dame Sheila Hancock
00:52:54on being top of her game
00:52:55for over seven decades.
00:52:58And he's been
00:52:58on his very own
00:52:59Easter egg hunt
00:53:00to find the perfect
00:53:01treats for us.
00:53:02Tom Sergi
00:53:03indulging us
00:53:04with his
00:53:04eclectic selection
00:53:06of Easter
00:53:07chocolatey tipples.
00:53:08I see he's dressed
00:53:09for the occasion.
00:53:10I ask no questions.
00:53:12Now earlier
00:53:13you saw me in a vehicle
00:53:14so quirky
00:53:15it could be
00:53:16straight out of
00:53:16wacky races
00:53:17and so vintage
00:53:18it makes the
00:53:19Reliant Robin
00:53:20look like a spaceship.
00:53:21My short drive
00:53:22in the 1900
00:53:25locomobile steam car
00:53:26thought to be
00:53:27the world's first
00:53:28mass-produced car
00:53:30wasn't nearly enough
00:53:31to satisfy
00:53:32my murdering
00:53:32curiosity.
00:53:33So owner
00:53:34Tony Slingo
00:53:35has hopped back
00:53:36in the driving seat
00:53:37to explain
00:53:38how he came
00:53:39into possession
00:53:40of this
00:53:41time capsule
00:53:42on wheels.
00:53:43When you hear
00:53:44a sound like that
00:53:45well it thrills me.
00:53:47Well stopped
00:53:47Tony.
00:53:49I'm getting very
00:53:50good at this now.
00:53:50You're getting good
00:53:51as you can imagine.
00:53:52I really enjoyed it.
00:53:53It was a bit scary
00:53:54at the top of the show.
00:53:55Tell me about it.
00:53:56I mean 1900
00:53:57the first mass-produced car?
00:53:59It's thought to be
00:54:00the world's first
00:54:01mass-produced car
00:54:02between 1897
00:54:04and 1904.
00:54:07It's thought that
00:54:083,000 were made.
00:54:09Gosh.
00:54:11But sadly now
00:54:12only about 12
00:54:13worldwide survive.
00:54:14So this is
00:54:15extraordinarily rare.
00:54:17How did you come
00:54:17up on it?
00:54:18I bought this
00:54:19actually from
00:54:20a steam specialist
00:54:21down in Exeter.
00:54:22Did it look like this?
00:54:23No it didn't.
00:54:24No it was
00:54:24in many boxes
00:54:25of bits.
00:54:28But I was looking
00:54:29for a challenge
00:54:30having restored
00:54:31many classic cars
00:54:32over the years.
00:54:32How did you work
00:54:33out what went well?
00:54:34Luckily I found
00:54:35someone up in Cambridge
00:54:36that also owns a car
00:54:37and he kindly
00:54:39allowed me to pop up
00:54:40there and photograph
00:54:40his car and detail it
00:54:42which helped me
00:54:43obviously enormously.
00:54:44But it's a delightful
00:54:45run and it feels
00:54:46like driving Chitty Bang Bang
00:54:47when you're on top
00:54:48of it.
00:54:49You've got steering
00:54:49here.
00:54:50That's the steering
00:54:52column.
00:54:53So that just
00:54:53moves the wheels
00:54:54left and right.
00:54:55This here
00:54:56is the throttle.
00:54:58Steam throttle.
00:54:58Yes.
00:54:59So that's forward
00:55:00and you put that
00:55:01back and it's reverse.
00:55:02End of controls.
00:55:04That's it.
00:55:04But I did feel
00:55:05it was a bit like
00:55:05doing this.
00:55:06It's exactly that way.
00:55:07Yes.
00:55:08But a lot of fun.
00:55:09So it's powered
00:55:10obviously by water,
00:55:12steam.
00:55:13Yes.
00:55:13Heated the water.
00:55:14What heats the water?
00:55:15It's got a petrol
00:55:16fired burner underneath
00:55:17which was actually
00:55:18quite advanced for its
00:55:19day.
00:55:20Prior to this
00:55:21obviously most of the
00:55:21steam engines were
00:55:22coal fired.
00:55:23Yeah.
00:55:23So this was a huge
00:55:24leap forward in
00:55:25technology for the
00:55:26day.
00:55:27Pressurised fuel
00:55:28which is injected
00:55:29into the engine
00:55:30through a vaporiser
00:55:32and then that
00:55:33comes out of the
00:55:33vaporiser back
00:55:34into the burner
00:55:36to produce
00:55:37obviously the flame
00:55:38that you need
00:55:38to heat the steam.
00:55:39So I mean
00:55:40how big is the
00:55:41water tank?
00:55:42It holds 19 litres
00:55:44so it's actually
00:55:44quite small
00:55:45and it consumes
00:55:46about a gallon
00:55:47of water per mile.
00:55:49So you can go
00:55:50what about 15-20 miles?
00:55:5215 miles or so
00:55:52you're knocking on
00:55:53someone's door
00:55:53looking for a pond
00:55:54basically but
00:55:56that's the way it was.
00:55:57And how fast can you
00:55:58go because I have to
00:55:58say when I came
00:55:59round that corner
00:55:59I thought crumbs
00:56:00this is faster than
00:56:01it's sort of
00:56:02cruiser speed
00:56:03comfortably
00:56:03sort of 15-20 miles
00:56:04an hour
00:56:05but it will do
00:56:0630 miles an hour
00:56:08which given the
00:56:09controls is actually
00:56:10as you know
00:56:11from yourself
00:56:11you have to be
00:56:12quite brave to
00:56:13have you done
00:56:14the London to
00:56:14Brighton in it?
00:56:15No I haven't
00:56:16no.
00:56:18What I would
00:56:19like to do
00:56:19actually is
00:56:21complete the
00:56:22John de Groot
00:56:23to Land's End
00:56:24journey.
00:56:25This was one of
00:56:25the first cars
00:56:26to actually make
00:56:27that journey.
00:56:27How long did
00:56:28it take?
00:56:2916 days.
00:56:30That's an awful
00:56:31lot of 20 gallons.
00:56:32But the springs on it
00:56:33I felt it was really
00:56:34quite comfortable
00:56:35coming down there.
00:56:36It is quite comfortable
00:56:36and of course the
00:56:37seat's nice and warm
00:56:38because you're actually
00:56:38sitting on the burner
00:56:39and the boiler
00:56:40so it's actually
00:56:41a nice place to be.
00:56:43You can see though
00:56:44kind of what it
00:56:45developed from
00:56:45the horse's carriage.
00:56:47Oh absolutely.
00:56:47It's just missing the
00:56:48horse at the front
00:56:49isn't it?
00:56:49You've even got
00:56:49this sort of
00:56:50classic buckboard
00:56:51sort of shape.
00:56:51Yeah team of horse
00:56:52in the front
00:56:52wouldn't look out
00:56:53of place at all.
00:56:54Well done you
00:56:55for putting it together
00:56:56and do you get a
00:56:57chance to use it
00:56:58a lot now?
00:56:59As much as I can
00:57:00yes.
00:57:00I mean it's still
00:57:01under development
00:57:01there's still work
00:57:02to do
00:57:02but we're making
00:57:04good progress
00:57:05with it.
00:57:05Well we've had
00:57:06an absolutely
00:57:07glorious day
00:57:08being with you
00:57:08and I'm thrilled
00:57:09to bits
00:57:10that is now
00:57:10officially the
00:57:11oldest car
00:57:12I've ever driven.
00:57:13I've done the one
00:57:14that was about
00:57:141903
00:57:15in the London
00:57:16to Brighton
00:57:17well I've been on it
00:57:18and I drove a little
00:57:18bit of it.
00:57:19Probably an internal
00:57:20combustion engine
00:57:20in that one.
00:57:21Yes it was.
00:57:22Well this takes
00:57:23probably three
00:57:24quarters an hour
00:57:25to raise steam
00:57:25so of course
00:57:26as soon as
00:57:27the internal
00:57:27combustion engine
00:57:28came along
00:57:28no one wanted
00:57:29a steam car.
00:57:30Ah but you see
00:57:31you're talking to
00:57:31a patron of the
00:57:32watercress line
00:57:32down here in
00:57:33Hampshire
00:57:33I'm very happy
00:57:34to be.
00:57:35Anywhere near steam?
00:57:36Yes.
00:57:36Well I should
00:57:37begrudgingly let you
00:57:38go now it's been
00:57:39a delight to be
00:57:39with it and to
00:57:40have actually
00:57:41driven a steam car.
00:57:42Thank you Terry.
00:57:43Pleasure to be
00:57:43here today.
00:57:49Did you know
00:57:50that in some parts
00:57:51of Germany
00:57:52they don't have
00:57:53visits from
00:57:54the Easter bunny
00:57:55at this time of
00:57:56year but from
00:57:56an Easter fox?
00:57:58A strange thought
00:57:59isn't it?
00:58:00Don't worry.
00:58:01I can't tell
00:58:01I'm much happier
00:58:02with bunnies.
00:58:03Rabbit man
00:58:04myself.
00:58:05Now anybody
00:58:06can write a diary
00:58:07but what it really
00:58:08needs is a wealth
00:58:09of lived experience.
00:58:11That's why the
00:58:11very best tell-alls
00:58:13concern those
00:58:14with a fair few
00:58:15years under their
00:58:15belt.
00:58:16What better
00:58:17subject for this
00:58:18week's spring
00:58:19diaries then
00:58:20than the
00:58:21ancient magnolia
00:58:2295 million
00:58:24years old?
00:58:25Leslie Joseph
00:58:26puts pen to
00:58:27paper in
00:58:28chapter three
00:58:29of her
00:58:30spring diaries.
00:58:35Dear diary,
00:58:36last night I
00:58:37travelled through
00:58:38the night to
00:58:39Lyndhurst ahead
00:58:40of Mr.
00:58:41Biggin's grand
00:58:41arrival.
00:58:42I confess to
00:58:43feeling quite
00:58:44spent.
00:58:44That was until
00:58:46my eyes caught
00:58:47sight of what
00:58:48could only be
00:58:49described as
00:58:49spring spectacle
00:58:51of splendour.
00:58:52That I was
00:58:53quite compelled
00:58:53to halt my
00:58:54promenade,
00:58:55clutch my
00:58:56parasol and
00:58:57allow myself a
00:58:59moment of
00:58:59genuine admiration.
00:59:02Dear diary,
00:59:03you would not
00:59:04believe it.
00:59:05The magnolia
00:59:06has begun.
00:59:07I am bewitched
00:59:09by her presence.
00:59:10One does not
00:59:11simply notice a
00:59:12magnolia in bloom.
00:59:14No, one
00:59:15encounters it.
00:59:16like arriving
00:59:17at a grand
00:59:18ball and
00:59:19discovering a
00:59:20duchess already
00:59:20stationed at
00:59:21the top of
00:59:21the staircase,
00:59:22draped in
00:59:23silk, with
00:59:24a feather in
00:59:25her hair, and
00:59:26every eye fixed
00:59:28firmly upon
00:59:29her.
00:59:30I know
00:59:30jealousy is
00:59:31unbecoming, but
00:59:32there are times
00:59:33one does
00:59:34struggle.
00:59:35For if ever
00:59:36a tree knew
00:59:37how to command
00:59:38attention, it
00:59:39is the
00:59:40magnolia.
00:59:42I would be
00:59:43wrong to deny
00:59:44her such
00:59:45greatness, because
00:59:46magnolias are
00:59:47positively ancient
00:59:48aristocrats of
00:59:49the plant world.
00:59:50In fact, they
00:59:52were blooming on
00:59:52earth long before
00:59:53bees had even
00:59:54evolved, more
00:59:56than 90
00:59:57million years
00:59:57ago.
00:59:58Oh, what
01:00:00beautiful blooms
01:00:01they are.
01:00:02Many magnolias
01:00:03flower before a
01:00:04single leaf
01:00:05appears, leaving
01:00:06their branches
01:00:07decorated only with
01:00:08those glorious
01:00:10chalice-shaped
01:00:10blossoms, each
01:00:12one poised on
01:00:13a twig, like a
01:00:14champagne glass
01:00:15waiting to be
01:00:16filled, daring
01:00:17you to lift it
01:00:18to your lips and
01:00:20taste spring
01:00:21itself.
01:00:22Oh, I hear
01:00:23Mr. Biggins has
01:00:24arrived, so with
01:00:25great speed I must
01:00:26put will and
01:00:27paper down.
01:00:28Yours, as
01:00:29ever, L.
01:00:31Joseph.
01:00:35Thank you,
01:00:36Leslie, very much
01:00:37indeed.
01:00:37Did you know
01:00:37the scent of some
01:00:39magnolia flower
01:00:39flowers can trigger
01:00:41brain receptors
01:00:42associated with
01:00:43romantic feelings?
01:00:45Botanical romance
01:00:46at its best.
01:00:48Who knew?
01:00:49No, she's an
01:00:50internationally
01:00:50recognised sculptor
01:00:52known for capturing
01:00:53the spirit, movement
01:00:54and power of equine
01:00:56life in extraordinary
01:00:57detail.
01:00:58After training in a
01:01:00legendary Florence
01:01:01art school, Zoe
01:01:02Carmichael went on
01:01:03to become the first
01:01:04ever sculptor in
01:01:06residence with the
01:01:07British Army's
01:01:08household cavalry-mounted
01:01:10regiment where she
01:01:11continues to capture
01:01:12the military horses in
01:01:14bronze.
01:01:15With such a pedigree,
01:01:16I'm delighted that
01:01:17Zoe's carved some time
01:01:19out from a busy
01:01:20schedule.
01:01:21Sorry about that.
01:01:22To visitors here at
01:01:24Manor Farm.
01:01:24Zoe, lovely to see you.
01:01:26What astonishes me is
01:01:28that you've only been
01:01:29doing this for about
01:01:30four years.
01:01:30You began your working
01:01:32life in the city.
01:01:34Yes, I did.
01:01:35As what?
01:01:36I was head of account
01:01:37management at a market
01:01:38data finance firm.
01:01:40And that's the way in
01:01:41to start sculpting
01:01:42things.
01:01:42How astonishing, what
01:01:44triggered the change,
01:01:45apart from bravery?
01:01:47Well, I fancied a two-week
01:01:48holiday to Florence and I
01:01:49picked a two-week
01:01:51sculpting course.
01:01:53And I got there and
01:01:55then thought, hold on
01:01:56a second, this all
01:01:56makes quite a lot of
01:01:57sense.
01:01:58And they went back
01:01:58home, quit my job.
01:02:00Everybody thought I was
01:02:01having a nervous
01:02:02breakdown.
01:02:03Moved to Florence for
01:02:04a year and here we
01:02:05are.
01:02:05What a wonderful,
01:02:06wonderful story.
01:02:07Well, let's have a
01:02:08look at the process and
01:02:09also some of the
01:02:10glorious things that
01:02:11you've made.
01:02:12First sculpting
01:02:13residents for the
01:02:13Household Covering
01:02:14Mounties Regiment.
01:02:15Wow.
01:02:16They begin life like
01:02:17this.
01:02:18Yes, this is the
01:02:19armature and you've
01:02:21got to make the
01:02:21armature quite strong
01:02:22especially for
01:02:23sculptures like Juno
01:02:25which carry a lot of
01:02:26weight.
01:02:27And it starts off with
01:02:28a T and then you add
01:02:30on the extra
01:02:31appendages for legs and
01:02:33tails or rhino horns
01:02:35and things like that.
01:02:37And you can see where
01:02:37I've added it on, how
01:02:39I start.
01:02:39So, you know, you
01:02:40kind of just take it
01:02:41and you just squish it
01:02:43round.
01:02:43And then we go to...
01:02:45Yeah, and then you
01:02:46start to put the clay
01:02:48on.
01:02:48So this is about day
01:02:50three, I would say.
01:02:51Yeah.
01:02:52And where I...
01:02:53You can see it's still
01:02:54quite rough but you can
01:02:55start to see the general...
01:02:56When this is finished
01:02:57then and refined and
01:02:59this is, you know, part
01:03:00of the way through at the
01:03:00moment, the next stage
01:03:01then presumably involves
01:03:03this down here, does it?
01:03:04So...
01:03:04Yeah, so then you put the
01:03:07silicon...
01:03:08I'll show you, should we...
01:03:09Do you mind helping me
01:03:09open it?
01:03:10Yeah, OK.
01:03:11So...
01:03:11There we go.
01:03:13Woo!
01:03:14So...
01:03:14So this is when you get
01:03:16the foundry involved and
01:03:17you work together with
01:03:18them and this is the
01:03:20silicon layer.
01:03:21Now, so we take that...
01:03:23Yeah.
01:03:24We put it in what?
01:03:26Well, you just drip.
01:03:28This would be liquid and
01:03:29you drip.
01:03:30It's like, you've never
01:03:31had your nails done.
01:03:33No, not recently.
01:03:34I'm a gardener.
01:03:35They're awful.
01:03:37I'm a sculptor.
01:03:38Mine are too.
01:03:39So you pour liquid
01:03:40silicon on and it sets.
01:03:42Right.
01:03:42And you do another layer.
01:03:43Yeah.
01:03:43And then you put a plaster
01:03:44layer on the top and so
01:03:46you do it in two halves
01:03:47like you can see with the
01:03:48rhino.
01:03:48Yes.
01:03:49This mould, this is done.
01:03:51This has had its mould
01:03:52taken.
01:03:53Is this what comes out?
01:03:54Yes.
01:03:55So the liquid wax gets
01:03:56poured in there and you
01:03:58let it set and then so
01:03:59you'll see that this fits.
01:04:02Fits in there.
01:04:03Exactly.
01:04:04Yeah.
01:04:05In like that.
01:04:05Wow.
01:04:06And then you...
01:04:07So that is just wax now.
01:04:09Yeah.
01:04:10And you join them back
01:04:10together.
01:04:11Yeah.
01:04:11Yeah.
01:04:12Two halves.
01:04:12Yeah.
01:04:13Yeah.
01:04:14Yeah.
01:04:14I'm only asking these
01:04:15naive questions on behalf
01:04:16of the viewer because I
01:04:17don't know either.
01:04:19So it's...
01:04:19Yeah, it's quite light.
01:04:20Yes, but this is fragile,
01:04:21isn't it?
01:04:21Very fragile.
01:04:22Yeah.
01:04:23It's very light.
01:04:24Yeah.
01:04:24Please take it off.
01:04:25Yes, agreed.
01:04:26And then what you do is
01:04:28you take this sculpture and
01:04:30the foundry attach runners.
01:04:32So they're wax lines.
01:04:36Yeah.
01:04:36And you dip it in a ceramic
01:04:38liquid.
01:04:39Yeah.
01:04:39Which you dip over a period
01:04:40of, say, two weeks and it
01:04:42sets hard and you put that
01:04:43in a kiln so then the
01:04:45ceramic will set completely
01:04:47hard and the wax will
01:04:48evaporate.
01:04:49So from clay to wax to
01:04:51ceramic.
01:04:52Yeah.
01:04:52To...
01:04:53Pour in liquid molten
01:04:54bronze.
01:04:55Wow.
01:04:55Yeah.
01:04:55That is...
01:04:56You see, that's beautiful.
01:04:58But when you do this to it...
01:05:00Yes.
01:05:00Oh my goodness.
01:05:02I'm back in Venice with the
01:05:04horses on some marks.
01:05:06Those amazing horses.
01:05:07I love that
01:05:07patination.
01:05:08That took quite an
01:05:09experimentation.
01:05:10So what do you use?
01:05:11What do you put on it?
01:05:12So this is fresh bronze.
01:05:13You have to polish it down
01:05:14like this so there's not any
01:05:16kind of residue in your
01:05:16fingers or anything.
01:05:18Right.
01:05:18And then you need a lot of
01:05:19acid and heat to create
01:05:22different parts of the
01:05:23process.
01:05:23But your real piece de
01:05:24resistance, Zoe, is Juno,
01:05:27the drum horse in silver.
01:05:29We've got the bronze version
01:05:32over there but this is
01:05:33astonishing and I mean what
01:05:35an honour because the Queen
01:05:37named Juno I think, didn't
01:05:38she?
01:05:39Yep.
01:05:39Juno was named by the
01:05:40Queen, yeah.
01:05:41Yeah.
01:05:42And then casting it in
01:05:42silver.
01:05:43Yeah.
01:05:43This is my first silver piece
01:05:45and the first silver of the
01:05:47drum horse and she's the
01:05:49first mayor to the household
01:05:50cavalry, manager regiment.
01:05:52So it's a really special
01:05:53piece to do.
01:05:54I'll tell you what, don't
01:05:55go back to the city.
01:05:58Absolutely breathtaking.
01:05:58I'm quite busy now.
01:06:00I've got too much to do.
01:06:01I bet you're quite busy
01:06:01now and you can obviously
01:06:02make a living at it as
01:06:03well with many conditions.
01:06:05Luckily, I feel very
01:06:05lucky, yes.
01:06:06Well I think we feel very
01:06:07lucky having seen exactly
01:06:08what you do.
01:06:09Thank you so much Zoe.
01:06:10Thank you for having me.
01:06:11You're welcome.
01:06:12Come back again.
01:06:13I'm enamoured.
01:06:15Glorious, glorious work.
01:06:16Coming up, we haven't spent
01:06:19ourselves entirely, in spite of
01:06:20this glory here, five Easter
01:06:23chocktails that are worth
01:06:25hopping to the bar for.
01:06:27Tom Sergis serving up a
01:06:28cream, egg, white, Russian and
01:06:29chocolate bunny martini at the
01:06:32end of the show.
01:06:33And she's an Olivier Award
01:06:35winner, an OBE recipient and
01:06:37now a dame.
01:06:38Sheila Hancock on the twists and
01:06:40turns of an impressive acting
01:06:42career.
01:06:42And now Betty Davis inspired her
01:06:45to keep going.
01:06:46I'll see you with the dame and
01:06:47more right after this.
01:07:02Welcome back to Love Your
01:07:03Weekend.
01:07:04Coming up, chocolate and
01:07:05boozy treats.
01:07:06Need I say more?
01:07:08Could it be Easter?
01:07:09First, do a treat of a different
01:07:11kind and somebody who never fails
01:07:13to entertain.
01:07:14My next guest is one of the most
01:07:15respected actresses and writers
01:07:17of our time.
01:07:18She became a household name in the
01:07:201960s sitcom The Rag Trade.
01:07:23Whistle, everybody out.
01:07:24Miriam Carlin, remember that.
01:07:26Since then, she's started everything
01:07:28from Carry On Cleo, the award-winning
01:07:30Cabaret, The Sixth Commandment and
01:07:32Edie.
01:07:33But I wonder what was going through her
01:07:35mind when she got the call to star
01:07:37opposite this Hollywood icon.
01:07:39I'd like to see my grandchildren
01:07:41occasionally, Terry.
01:07:42They're waiting for you, Mum.
01:07:44They're waiting to see what I bought
01:07:45them.
01:07:46What have you bought them then, Mum?
01:07:49You see, Shirley, no subtleties with
01:07:51Karen.
01:07:52What have you bought them?
01:07:54You want to know, I'm giving them money.
01:07:57Oh, good idea.
01:07:58They make them buy what they like.
01:08:00I've already bought it.
01:08:01I'm putting the money in trust funds so no
01:08:05one can get their hands on it.
01:08:09They're impatient, I know.
01:08:11I've had three chicks of my own.
01:08:15Only three, I grant you, Karen.
01:08:18But natural good manners told me when to
01:08:22put the plug in.
01:08:26I'm not surprised they are opposite
01:08:28Betty Davis.
01:08:29One of the most intimidating Hollywood
01:08:32actresses of all time.
01:08:35And from your point of view of acting
01:08:37with her, because you'd been in the
01:08:37stage play of the anniversary, then you
01:08:40went to appear with her in the film of
01:08:42the anniversary.
01:08:43I would have been quaking in my boots,
01:08:45Sheila, opposite her.
01:08:46I think I was.
01:08:48I actually was.
01:08:49I remember the first day she appeared on
01:08:51set.
01:08:52In fact, we were told to, she had to make an
01:08:55entrance down a staircase and we were told to go
01:08:58to the bottom and applaud her as she came down.
01:09:00She was actually a woman who needed support, really.
01:09:04She was, she was surrounded by protectors and you
01:09:08couldn't get to her, really.
01:09:10And I remember once her saying, I did a shot with her and
01:09:13she did the voices off, which people don't normally do when
01:09:17they reached the kind of stardom that she had.
01:09:19But she did.
01:09:20And then she did her reverse and I did the voices off.
01:09:24And I actually said, gosh, well done, Miss Davis.
01:09:27And she said, oh, thank you, honey.
01:09:29The most I ever get is printed.
01:09:32And, you know, obviously nobody dared approach her.
01:09:36And we ended up being quite good friends at the end.
01:09:38But, but it was, it was kind of forced on her and she fought
01:09:43Hollywood, you know, this woman, she was so courageous and
01:09:48so strong, but she had hideous men always in her life.
01:09:53And I ended up deeply respecting her.
01:09:56She sacked everybody.
01:09:58When she arrived, the director we had was one of our top
01:10:02directors, Alvin Rakoff.
01:10:03She wasn't having any of that.
01:10:05I mean, she knew that they wanted this and she lit herself.
01:10:09She got rid of the lighting cameraman and she knew we all
01:10:13looked about 103 and she looked two on the screen, you know.
01:10:17And she, and she got rid of Alvin because he tried to make her
01:10:21play it utterly realistically.
01:10:23And she knew that wasn't what the public wanted.
01:10:26Was it founded on insecurity, do you think?
01:10:29I don't, I honestly, but no, I think it was founded on being
01:10:32battered like so many of that Hollywood generation, like Judy Garland,
01:10:37like Streisand, like all sorts of people.
01:10:40They were treated abominably badly, I think.
01:10:43And she had enormous talent and nobody listened to her, you know.
01:10:48But she, she was wonderful.
01:10:50Did you ever get to work with Olivier?
01:10:52No, I got to work with his wife and I met him quite a bit, on and off.
01:10:57John understudied him, actually.
01:10:59My husband, John Thor, he understudied him in a play and he went on.
01:11:03And he was rather better than Olivier because it was a modern play that Olivier
01:11:07wasn't at all happy in.
01:11:09And John went on and did it because it was a northern part and all that.
01:11:13And he felt more at home.
01:11:15I admired Olivier.
01:11:17I mean, you know, thank you, National Theatre and all that.
01:11:20I'm not knocking him.
01:11:21But I, I don't think he was a film actor because he, he was a state,
01:11:25he was a superb stage actor.
01:11:28Although actually probably if the young people today watched him,
01:11:32they wouldn't think that.
01:11:32Because it's of its era.
01:11:34It's of its time.
01:11:34It's slightly mannered.
01:11:35Yes.
01:11:36Your career has been so diverse, but I've known you as long as I've known you
01:11:40on television and film, and I do remember Carry On Clear.
01:11:43I've known you for radio as well, particularly Just A Minute.
01:11:46Yes.
01:11:47And you became a rarity, i.e. a very close friend of Kenneth Williams,
01:11:51who allegedly was not easy to get to know.
01:11:54But you were very close.
01:11:56Yes, I loved him.
01:11:58I loved him.
01:11:58He'd have been 100 this year, astonishingly.
01:12:01We did a thing at the British Library remembering him
01:12:04because he would have, it would have been his 100th birthday.
01:12:06It was my birthday as well.
01:12:07I was, I was 93 because we had the same birthday.
01:12:11And I loved, he asked me to marry him once.
01:12:14And I said, but Ken, I'm already married.
01:12:18And he said, yes, but it's a rubbish marriage.
01:12:20We would, we would be much better.
01:12:21But everybody says that he was deeply unhappy.
01:12:24He wasn't, you know, he had lots of friends.
01:12:27He was hugely talented, but he wanted to be taken seriously as an actor.
01:12:32He used to, he was, he was self-educated.
01:12:36He was always, for just a minute, he would read things up
01:12:39and he was very knowledgeable.
01:12:41And I used to say, you know, nobody takes me seriously.
01:12:44And I used to say to him, Ken, honestly, anybody can play Hamlet
01:12:48if they learn the lines, but nobody can do what you do.
01:12:53You're utterly individual.
01:12:55I don't want to do what I do.
01:12:56Do you know?
01:12:57So in that way, he was a bit unhappy.
01:13:00And if he'd been in America, they would have built shows around him
01:13:04and he would have been a huge, huge star.
01:13:07But we're not very good in this country of dealing with people who are a bit odd.
01:13:11I mean, I would, sometimes I, he let me go in the flat.
01:13:14He didn't like people going in the flat.
01:13:16And in those days, I smoked and he wouldn't let me smoke.
01:13:18Wouldn't let me use his loo.
01:13:20I had to go down and use his mother's loo.
01:13:22His mother lived down in the flat below.
01:13:24It was terrible.
01:13:25And he had, the only decoration he had were crystals and things like that.
01:13:29He collected beautiful things like that.
01:13:32And he, but he, but he liked, sometimes he'd say, right, I've had enough of you, now go.
01:13:37And he, because he wanted to be on his own.
01:13:40And I'm a bit like that as well.
01:13:42I totally, I didn't mind at all because I, I knew how he felt.
01:13:46You wrote this book, Old Rage, which is wonderfully feisty.
01:13:50And, you know, you've done a second edition of it in paperback.
01:13:55But there's an anger in there.
01:13:57But the thing is, yes, you rant, but I love your rants because they're not, they're not bitter rants.
01:14:03They're just sort of frustrations of, and then there's humour shot through it.
01:14:10I mean, it seems to me that your life is, you've had to have a really good sense of humour
01:14:14and a sense of the ridiculous.
01:14:15You know, you, two husbands, very fond of, you know, and then John Thorne and lost both of them.
01:14:22And you've battled on.
01:14:23You're still here.
01:14:24Yeah.
01:14:24If I'm allowed to say 93, an incredible example to us all.
01:14:29Way to go.
01:14:30You know, but you're angry, but you're not.
01:14:33No, I'm not, I think, I think life is so wonderful.
01:14:37And I get so angry at the people that are destroying it.
01:14:41Because it's so beautiful.
01:14:43Here we are today.
01:14:44The weather is wonderful, isn't it?
01:14:46Yeah.
01:14:46I mean, I came, I only got, I only took the job because I wanted to see the country.
01:14:50I came down here.
01:14:51Thanks, you know.
01:14:53Seriously, no, I wanted to see you as well.
01:14:56But mainly, I just am so grateful to have been alive.
01:15:03And I don't want it to be spoiled.
01:15:06I will fight tooth and nail until the, and that's the only reason I don't want to die, because I
01:15:11feel there's so much to be done.
01:15:14We've got to make it all right.
01:15:15And I think particularly women have got to make their voice heard.
01:15:20I really, and they are doing it.
01:15:22They are doing it a lot.
01:15:24But we've got to balance the male characteristics.
01:15:30I'm not, I'm not talking gender necessarily here.
01:15:34And the female characteristics.
01:15:36And this lovely Easter time, when we, you know, look at the examples of a man who believed in the
01:15:43world
01:15:43and believed in human life and died for it.
01:15:47And I just think that we've got to cherish life.
01:15:52That's what I think.
01:15:53And keep a sense of humour too.
01:15:55Yes.
01:15:56Well, I do laugh a lot.
01:15:56Does that drive you through?
01:15:57You laugh a lot.
01:15:58Yeah, I do.
01:15:58I do.
01:15:59I laugh myself at myself sometimes.
01:16:01I think, what are you talking about, you silly cow?
01:16:05That makes no sense at all.
01:16:07I mean, sometimes I listen to myself.
01:16:09I occasionally, by mistake, listen to myself on the radio and think,
01:16:12what am I talking about?
01:16:15That's absolute rubbish.
01:16:18Well, you're welcome to come here and talk rubbish any time you want, Sheila.
01:16:22Bless you.
01:16:22Lovely to be with you, as always.
01:16:24Bless you.
01:16:25We'll give you a little treat at the end of the show.
01:16:27Good.
01:16:27Time now to pause, reflect and take a moment to enjoy some wonderful footage,
01:16:32which really rather makes a point of what Sheila's saying.
01:16:35Wonderful footage set to equally wonderful music and reminding us all what is out there,
01:16:40especially at this time of year at Easter.
01:16:42It's today's Ode to Joy.
01:17:11It's today's Ode to Joy.
01:17:28Bye.
01:17:31Bye.
01:17:32Bye.
01:17:33Bye.
01:18:33The coastline of Torquay in Devon, courtesy of Ryan Wills, and set to the symphony number 101 by Joseph Haydn.
01:18:41There's inspiration for you. He wrote 104 symphonies. Crack on. What an idler I am.
01:18:47Still ahead? Delicious, decadent and devilishly creamy.
01:18:51Tom Sergi serves up his ever-so-tempting Easter cocktails.
01:18:55So tempting that Julian and Sheila have started already.
01:19:00If you leave some with me, I'll see you with the chocolate and the guests right after this.
01:19:20Now, with Easter celebrations well and truly underway, whether you're hosting a long, lazy Easter lunch,
01:19:27planning a garden gathering or simply indulging in a little bank holiday treat,
01:19:31king of the cocktail, Tom Sergi is here, to shake, stir and sip his way and our way
01:19:38through this week's Best of British, courtesy of some sumptuous Easter choctales.
01:19:44And when you look at these, oh my goodness, what we're in for, Tom.
01:19:48It's a segment based entirely on that, isn't it? The word choctales, which is lovely, which is so good.
01:19:53So we are doing five very chocolatey.
01:19:56Only five?
01:19:57Only five. We can go back through them if we've got time.
01:19:59Are there people who don't like chocolate?
01:20:02No, I love chocolate. I love it.
01:20:04Love chocolate. Everyone loves chocolate.
01:20:07Exactly.
01:20:07Two together.
01:20:08And there's a great range of things like chocolate liqueurs on the market and you can make,
01:20:12you know, quite a lot of this is quite like baking, really.
01:20:15You know, you can make white chocolate ganaches and things and mix them into drinks.
01:20:19It's honestly, it's easy. It's easy.
01:20:21A couple of the chocolate martinis and then, you know, you can try anything.
01:20:24Okay.
01:20:25So we'll begin with my Easter bunny martini.
01:20:28So garnished with a little chocolate bunny, of course, this is sapling vodka,
01:20:32which is a climate positive, regeneratively farmed, really beautiful vodka made in the UK
01:20:38that plants a tree for every bottle sold. So I like them a lot.
01:20:42Wow.
01:20:42And what we've done is we've shaken that with a chocolate cream liqueur and a little bit of hot chocolate.
01:20:48And what it does is it gives you a very boozy, punchy, ice cold, creamy chocolate.
01:20:53That is totally outrageous.
01:20:54When you say hot chocolate, you mean it was hot when it went in?
01:20:57I made some hot chocolate, I let it cool down and I put 50 mils of that in a shaker.
01:21:01Oh, yes, I can taste that.
01:21:01And you're away.
01:21:02I love that.
01:21:03And so you can make these beforehand, you can pre-batch them and then as long as you shake them
01:21:07and get them nice and cold.
01:21:08And the trick is...
01:21:09Really?
01:21:09Yeah, lots of vodka as well. You need lots of vodka to keep the consistency.
01:21:12You put the vodka in at the beginning?
01:21:13Everything in all at once.
01:21:14Everything in all at once.
01:21:15I'm afraid I've eaten my bunny.
01:21:17That's entirely fair enough.
01:21:18What we're moving on to, if you like, is I wanted to play around with a bit of white chocolate.
01:21:22And the priline, that amazing combination of creaminess, that white chocolate, a bit of a kind of nuttiness, a little
01:21:30bit of toffee.
01:21:31And so what I've done here is we have put the amazing Cool Swan, which is an Irish whiskey-based
01:21:36cream liqueur, based on white chocolate, cream and Irish whiskey.
01:21:41We've put that into a shaker alongside some amaretto, beautifully kind of almond-y, nutty.
01:21:46I thought I'd buy the coffee vodka.
01:21:47Where do you buy these things? Where do you buy that white stuff?
01:21:51This is very easy. Honestly, quick Google and you'll find that.
01:21:53Really?
01:21:53Or quick search online and you'll find that.
01:21:55It's like an upmarket Baileys.
01:21:57It is. It is a bit like that.
01:21:59And you could build it up off that.
01:22:01And so cream liqueur, a little bit of toffee vodka, something to give it a bit of sweetness.
01:22:06Toffee vodka?
01:22:06Really nice. You need some toffee vodka in your line.
01:22:08What you then add is a bit of amaretto for the nuttiness.
01:22:10Yeah.
01:22:11And then finally, a pinch of sea salt.
01:22:13What you need is a little bit of salt in there.
01:22:14Yeah, because white chocolate can be very kind of cloyant.
01:22:17How did you come to get the recipe?
01:22:20I made it up. I spent hours toiling away in my kitchen.
01:22:23So you think, well, that needs a bit of salt.
01:22:25I'll put a bit of salt in there.
01:22:26Yeah, exactly.
01:22:27And I'm tempted to come in and wake him up.
01:22:29Yes, exactly.
01:22:31But it's, yeah, not a bad cake.
01:22:33Do you like this?
01:22:34I love this one.
01:22:35Yeah, because I don't really like white chocolate, but this is really delicious.
01:22:38It's got a nice, it's not sickly, is it?
01:22:41No.
01:22:41It's just rich but sort of clean in a way.
01:22:45100%.
01:22:46Now, next up, there is a drink out in Spain that, when it's in any other country, is highly contentious.
01:22:53But when you go to Spain, it's kind of, you know, respected and it's fun.
01:22:56And that is a Kalimucho.
01:22:59And Kalimucho is a combination of red wine and Coca-Cola.
01:23:03Or cola.
01:23:05And so red wine and cola, half and half, 50% of each, you know, equal measures.
01:23:11And what I've done with this to give it its lovely theme is we've put it into an egg.
01:23:16So you cut the top off an egg.
01:23:17It creates a very, very good glass for you.
01:23:21You can eat it afterwards.
01:23:23And into that, into that red wine and cola mix, I've put equal parts, so a third of each,
01:23:29this amazing Moorish Morello cherry brandy liqueur from the brilliant producer, which is Spirit of the South Downs.
01:23:38And the Spirit of the Downs make really high-quality, grape-based spirits.
01:23:43They make brandies, all of them based from waste material that is pressed grapes for English wine,
01:23:49with some of the best vineyards in the country, that they then take to their distillery, ferment, distill.
01:23:55And so it's a completely kind of closed circle, really beautiful kind of sustainable model.
01:24:00And this is Kent and Sussex cherries, steeped in beautiful grape spirit.
01:24:06It's pretty good, isn't it?
01:24:07I think my teenage daughter would love this.
01:24:09I mean, it's so much work, isn't it?
01:24:12Sheila, it's all been done for you, just drink it.
01:24:15It's so complicated.
01:24:17How do you like this one?
01:24:18It's Coca-Cola and something.
01:24:19Coca-Cola, red wine and cherry liqueur.
01:24:21That's exactly it.
01:24:22What's so nice about this is really high-quality cherry liqueur, like the Spirit of the Downs one.
01:24:27It does, it sits beautifully alongside Coke, alongside the red wine.
01:24:30I've used an English Pinot Noir as the red wine.
01:24:33And equal combinations, a bit like a great Negroni.
01:24:35All these equal parts hit a perfect harmony.
01:24:38Let's carry it down.
01:24:39Oh, this one is amazing.
01:24:40But you can't get at the drink because it's got so much on top.
01:24:44It's real Del Boy stuff, you're absolutely right.
01:24:46So this is my Choco Colada, okay?
01:24:49And as far as I know, no-one's made one of these before.
01:24:52It's a Pina Colada.
01:24:53Oh, this is fab.
01:24:55It's beautiful coconut cream.
01:24:57It's really, really high-quality, not from concentrate pineapple juice.
01:25:01That's important.
01:25:01Oh, that's nice.
01:25:02That's good.
01:25:02And it's this amazing myth, non-alcoholic coconut cane spirit, which I love.
01:25:07That's really good.
01:25:08Rice wine vinegar, real coconut.
01:25:10That's pretty much it.
01:25:11A little bit of sugar.
01:25:12It's a very straightforward, non-alcoholic spirit alternative,
01:25:15and it tastes this of incredibly pure coconut.
01:25:18You could have this at the start because these other ones feel like they're at the end of the meal.
01:25:21Yeah.
01:25:22They feel like dessert, but this is more, you know what I mean?
01:25:25I do.
01:25:26And a good Pina Colada, what makes a good Pina Colada is quite a lot of pineapple.
01:25:29If they're too heavy and dense, they're challenging.
01:25:32You want loads of pineapple, and what I've added is a little bit of hot chocolate.
01:25:35Very simply, into the mix, you add a bit of hot chocolate.
01:25:37And funnily enough, pineapple and cocoa, and a bit of coconut, it really works.
01:25:43I'd love to see you at it.
01:25:45There you go.
01:25:46Sheila.
01:25:47No, Sheila.
01:25:48Drink your drink.
01:25:50We knew what you meant.
01:25:52Downhill.
01:25:53A bit of pink with this in there, and a bit of chalk and all that.
01:25:56Sheila, we'll try and see if we can range for you to see him at it.
01:26:00We've got one more drink.
01:26:02Come on.
01:26:02Here we go.
01:26:03This is gorgeous.
01:26:04I like this one.
01:26:05That is superb.
01:26:06Absolutely wonderful.
01:26:08Now, just a little pick-me-up at the end.
01:26:10I thought we'd do a twist.
01:26:11Pick me up.
01:26:11A little pick-me-up here.
01:26:13This is, it's based on a White Russian.
01:26:15And so this is my white chocolate, White Russian.
01:26:19It's quite cream egg-like.
01:26:22I think there's a kind of cream egg, White Russian vibe to it.
01:26:24And what it is, is it is this fantastic Café Solo, cold-brewed coffee liqueur,
01:26:30mixed with incredible Isle of Wight distillery, mermaid, salt vodka.
01:26:36So Isle of Wight sea salt spiked vodka, which is absolutely beautiful.
01:26:39I like that one.
01:26:40And the combination of those two things really kind of softens the bitterness of coffee,
01:26:44elevates the flavour, a little bit of salt there.
01:26:46And then I've stirred into it, over the top, drizzled over the top,
01:26:50a little white chocolate ganache.
01:26:52So it's single cream and white chocolate.
01:26:53I can't taste the alcohol very much.
01:26:55I could start the day with this.
01:26:57Yes.
01:26:58And I think you probably will, Julian.
01:27:00But it's got a sweetness.
01:27:02It's got a little bit of a lovely coffee kind of...
01:27:04No, I don't like this one so much.
01:27:06I don't like it.
01:27:07No.
01:27:07I know, Sheila, give me another one.
01:27:08It tastes like camp coffee.
01:27:10Camp coffee?
01:27:10Oh, yes.
01:27:11Do you remember?
01:27:12You used to get camp coffee during the war.
01:27:14Yeah.
01:27:14It was...
01:27:15And I...
01:27:15Sorry.
01:27:16No, don't be sorry.
01:27:17I'm interested.
01:27:18I've never had camp coffee.
01:27:19It was in a bottle.
01:27:21And it's coffee and chicory.
01:27:22So I've toiled away and recreated camp coffee,
01:27:25which, look, I'm pretty happy with.
01:27:26I think that's all right.
01:27:28Cream egg, white Russian there, gang.
01:27:30It's absolutely delicious.
01:27:31Julian, not having tasted camp coffee,
01:27:32do you like what you're drinking?
01:27:33I love a camp coffee.
01:27:36Do you like this one?
01:27:37I quite like this one.
01:27:38Yeah, me too, Sheila.
01:27:39I quite like the one.
01:27:40Do you?
01:27:41Yeah, yeah.
01:27:41Well, I think the great thing is...
01:27:42Well done.
01:27:42This will put any of us three off saying,
01:27:44no, just a small sherry for me.
01:27:46Because these are absolutely...
01:27:49You've excelled yourself, Tom.
01:27:51I like it.
01:27:51I'd have a job to choose between them,
01:27:53wouldn't you, Julian?
01:27:54Just the one you'd go for more than any other.
01:27:56Well, I did like the first one.
01:27:56I mean, I liked all...
01:27:57I have to say, I liked them all.
01:27:59That's it, basically.
01:28:01Thanks to all my guests.
01:28:02The Sheila, particularly, Julian and Tom.
01:28:05They're lovely.
01:28:06And the menagerie of dogs, lambs and rabbits.
01:28:09What an Easter Sunday.
01:28:10Join me next week for some more barnside banter.
01:28:13Fletcher's Farm, family farm.
01:28:15You see, it's telling, isn't it?
01:28:17Fletcher's Family Farm's up next,
01:28:19but I'll leave you now with this quote
01:28:21from celebrated American poet Ogden Nash.
01:28:23I love Ogden Nash.
01:28:24Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker.
01:28:27Yeah.
01:28:27Let's hope the Easter money's taking notes.
01:28:29Enjoy the rest of your Sunday.
01:28:31And from us, a happy Easter.
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