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Joe and Hollywood react to the Heat cutting Terry Rozier after his connection to the NBA point-shaving scandal, noting he hadn’t played all season and that opinions remain split on whether he’s truly innocent. They also debate whether Rozier was ever a good fit in Miami to begin with, even before the controversy, and question if the move could go down as one of the worst trades in Heat history.

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00:00Um, so heat fans, especially for season tickets now have to wait to see, because you're a 10
00:07seat again, that you're exactly what you talked about, not wanting to be.
00:11And not only that, you're not even a seven or eight seat.
00:15You're, you're frigging bottom of the play in pile at 10.
00:19So you're sitting there at 10.
00:21Now you got to go win two road games, Charlotte tomorrow, Friday, either it'll be the loser
00:28of the magic and 76ers.
00:31And so you got to get two wins for the right to play the number one seed in the East.
00:37And that is the Pistons end up winning that, uh, in the, winning the conference.
00:42So we'll see what, uh, with the best record I should say.
00:45So we'll see what happens is, uh, but yeah, it's, uh, it's a toughest road you could get
00:50man on the road for two games.
00:53You know, you're going to Charlotte and then you either go up to Orlando.
00:56You haven't beaten them all year or, uh, or the 76ers who are without Joel Embiid.
01:02As far as I know, he's not back.
01:04Is he, uh, he had appendix surgery, right?
01:06So he's going to be out a while.
01:08I would think, I don't know how quickly you can come back from that.
01:11That guy's, uh, you know what, Joe, I'm not sure.
01:13He's got something from a heat standpoint.
01:15I'm not sure how much any of this is, uh, is going to matter here.
01:17I think that, that Charlotte game might be a little, a little dicey five and a half
01:22point dogs.
01:23They, uh, I think they're three.
01:24I think they got a three and one.
01:26Yeah.
01:27Charlotte seems to be tough.
01:28They seem to be three and one on them on the season.
01:30Well, we'll see.
01:30I don't know.
01:31Either way, man, this, this off season for the heat, something's got to get done.
01:35Something major.
01:36Well, there's one thing that slapping them right in the face.
01:38And if the reports are true that we are really close to getting something done with
01:43Milwaukee and Giannis, you gotta get that done.
01:46I don't care if he's 31, going to be 32 or not.
01:49You, you've got it.
01:49Yeah.
01:50I'm with you.
01:50He is such an upgrade on everything he does.
01:53Now you do need some stuff around him.
01:56Obviously.
01:56I like keep bam.
01:57That would be nice.
01:58I don't.
01:59You take anybody outside of bam for me personally.
02:02And some of you are going, you're screaming right now at me going bam, throw bam in there
02:06too.
02:06Yeah.
02:07I'm with you on that one, by the way, you got to throw bam in there too, but whatever it
02:12takes at this point, you have to mix this thing up.
02:14You can, you can have Jaime Hawkins if you need that.
02:17Who's my, I don't know if he's going to be six man of the year or not, but he's going
02:21to get boats.
02:21Yeah.
02:22But I don't want them to come back next year and be like, ah, well, you know, we tried.
02:25We just really, we, we couldn't.
02:26No, no, no.
02:27No, no, no.
02:27That's not the Riley way.
02:29Jovich or whatever.
02:29One of these, these guys like the nicest guy.
02:32What we can do with him, by the way, cares $60 million contract and like, ah, it's not
02:37that much.
02:3860 million for four years.
02:40Is that what it is?
02:40I think it's 15.
02:41Well, the NBA, that's a bargain, isn't it?
02:45Not if you don't play either.
02:46You don't play that much or you're hurt.
02:48I don't know how the hell you get hurt when you don't play that much.
02:51I'm not trying to be mean spirited today.
02:53Time to make some moves, man.
02:56I think they want to, it's got to find the right guys.
03:01Felt like that Rozier deal.
03:02Well, that's, that was a disaster.
03:04Well, he's off the team officially.
03:06Yeah, finally.
03:09Would you ask me on Friday, ask me if there's any chance he was, I think you ended the show
03:13by asking me if there's any chance he was innocent.
03:17Because one of our writers told me there's a good chance he's innocent.
03:21He's really, and I said, you got to be kidding me.
03:23What do you think?
03:24They just went out.
03:26Somebody said something, somebody that got busted through him in there that he was giving
03:31information.
03:31They don't just go picking on certain random guys.
03:34Yeah.
03:35I guess they have a little something.
03:37And by the way, even before that, he wasn't very good.
03:40Never was a good fit on this team from day one.
03:43Well, I heard the, uh, the afternoon show guys talking about this.
03:46What do you think was, do you think that thing was weighing on him?
03:48Yes.
03:49The fact that he was about to go down.
03:53Point shaving way heavily on you.
03:55Allegedly.
03:56And the question is with the amount of money you're making, what the were you doing?
04:01Got to take care of his guys.
04:03And that's the problem.
04:05Somebody gets busted and the Tweety bird starts tweeting towards you.
04:11You know what the most amazing part of that was is like, they started going back and finding
04:15these videos of him.
04:18Remember that I was showing you all those clips that people are posting on Twitter that
04:21like look like he's trying to do what he's accused of.
04:27Yes.
04:28Those videos are rough.
04:30No.
04:33Did you laugh it off?
04:34You're like, oh, they're just bloopers.
04:35Took himself, took himself out of games.
04:38No, for, uh, said he was injured.
04:39No, all those things.
04:41It was, uh, and then the guy comes out and says, yeah, man, we had, we had money.
04:45That was a prop bet.
04:48He didn't prop it very well.
04:50Yeah.
04:51Are you trying to outlaw prop bets now?
04:53I think they have to.
04:55Oh, come on.
04:57I got to get rid of it.
04:58Police, police, police yourself from the, I mean, just cause there's prop bets.
05:02I mean, you have to go out there and, you know, join up with the mob and point shave,
05:05but I don't know.
05:10The fact is there's a lot of guys doing, but the whole thing is weird.
05:14Like, so Charlotte knew about it, never said anything to us.
05:18We take them.
05:19So then we find out, we find out, first of all, he's got this over his head.
05:22And second of all, he can't play.
05:23He's not very good.
05:26That's the other thing.
05:27Just cause a guy scores a lot of points on a bad team, doesn't make him a better player
05:33when he gets to a better team.
05:35I think we learned that.
05:38We have learned that.
05:40Yeah.
05:40I'm guessing Pat won't exactly put the Rozier on the, the best work I've ever done.
05:46Um, who was it?
05:47Uh, remember?
05:48And then he came out and Pat, I'll never forget.
05:50Pat goes, well, we're not doing a lot in free agency.
05:52Cause that's our, uh, our Terry Rozier.
05:54We considered that guy, somebody had, I think it was barriers.
05:57I mean, it was the worst move that Riley's ever made, which it probably is.
06:06I mean, they've had some end poorly, but they've never had a guy in like, you know,
06:10get taken away by the FBI.
06:11You know what?
06:12I watched yesterday.
06:13Speaking of that crazy, a lot of stuff.
06:15I know I was on early in the morning, the Lakers Celtics with Riley and.
06:20Oh, I haven't seen that one yet.
06:22It's a good magic and bird.
06:24And on HBO, white versus black and the whole thing.
06:27Unbelievable.
06:28So good.
06:29So good.
06:29Both of them having their moments.
06:32Pat Riley, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in the first game, just, they lose by 40.
06:37It was their year.
06:38And then, uh, come back and they win.
06:42And Pat Riley's Kareem Abdul-Jabbar had, I guess so.
06:47Pat Riley had a rule.
06:48He was strict on the buses going to games.
06:50No family members.
06:51It was just for team.
06:53And Kareem had just had the worst.
06:55He's 38 years old.
06:56Has this terrible first game.
06:58Terrible game.
07:00And he sees Pat.
07:01He's a guy.
07:01He goes, this is my dad.
07:02Do you mind if he gets a ride to the game with us?
07:05And Pat Riley said, no problem.
07:07Have your dad come on.
07:09And Magic and those guys are watching going, he didn't let anybody on there.
07:12No one.
07:14Like, that was Pat Riley.
07:14You know how Pat was.
07:15Pat used to be strict.
07:16I know it's not like that anymore.
07:17Pat Riley was strict on there.
07:19Jimmy Butler.
07:20Did Jimmy break that or somebody break that before here?
07:23We found out Jimmy could basically go anywhere he wanted.
07:28He had a rolling.
07:30He must have got real good.
07:31He goes, he's too good.
07:32He plays too hard.
07:34We might as well bend the rules a little bit for Jimmy Butler.
07:36We've got to go to break here.
07:38We've got more stuff to get to.
07:40Yeah, that thing with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar with his dad.
07:44At the end of his career, he goes, do you mind if my dad gets on here?
07:46And Riley's going, if his dad can't get through to him and his dad's with us,
07:50I'm going to take my chances.
07:52Pat always into the psychological part of things.
07:55Pat Riley.
07:56I love that.
07:57That was great, man.
07:59Listen to those stories.
08:00Great stuff.
08:01All right, we've got to go to break.
08:02We'll be right back after this.
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