00:00And meanwhile, you spoke exclusively to Turkey, NATO ally.
00:02You spoke to their trade minister.
00:04What did he have to say about all this?
00:05Look, Turkey's very interesting in all this because remember,
00:07they had to intercept several, at least four ballistic missiles
00:10that went into Turkish airspace from Iran, the Iranian war.
00:14So it nearly dragged NATO into the whole conflict.
00:16Turkey is also involved in some of the negotiations
00:18and it's the second biggest army with inside NATO.
00:21And I caught up with the trade minister, Umar Bolat,
00:24and I asked him what he thought about the ceasefire in particular,
00:28whether Lebanon was involved and whether or not he thought it was going to last.
00:33If the U.S. wants a lasting and sustainable peace in the Middle East,
00:41as Mr. Trump acclaimed after the ceasefire was set,
00:48somebody should say no to Israel and Israel's actions.
00:53Therefore, international community should rise up from now on
01:01to say no to Israel's unjust actions in the region.
01:08Now, Turkey is the second largest army in NATO,
01:11one of the most important NATO allies.
01:13Do you worry about the future of it if Donald Trump is constantly threatening
01:16to either withdraw or to stay inside, but hold it to hostage in some way?
01:21I mean, politicians and leaders may have some statements
01:31depending on circumstances, timing, and place, and the incidents.
01:39However, when it comes to reality and also international politics,
01:48I'm sure that common sense will prevail.
01:53And I mean, NATO's presence as a deterring force
02:01also to keep peace and security, mainly on the European continent,
02:08but in the world, because there is no any other deterring force
02:14like NATO in the other parts of the world.
02:18Then member countries, I'm sure, will come together and agree on uniting
02:28and getting united and on strengthening NATO as a, I mean, security zone
02:41and peacemaking deterring force for the world security.
02:49Do you think, though, that NATO members have an obligation
02:52to join the U.S. and Israel now to reopening and securing the Strait of Ormuz?
03:00So far, there have been no any indications of that.
03:06It seems that NATO member countries had a stance to keep silent
03:17on the sidelines on the sidelines of this very critical war
03:27because no one consulted with the NATO members whether to attack Iran or not.
03:34So it seems that the NATO member countries seemed that this would be short-lived,
03:43but it didn't, it wasn't short-lived.
03:48And they did not think about very, very negative reflections,
03:58effects on their economies, on their economies, on the world economy.
04:04And they thought that this was an operation only to be carried out
04:12for the interests of Israel, not for NATO's interests,
04:19not for the world's goodness, I would say.
04:25Do you think it's fair then that Donald Trump is asking for their help now
04:29because he's saying, we're all in NATO, you have an obligation to help me
04:33because now I'm under pressure.
04:36Do you think they're obliged or are they within their rights to say
04:39we are a defensive organisation and we weren't consulted about this conflict?
04:44Yes, your question is also the answer for that.
04:49OK.
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