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09:04causing suffering among the Hungarian people
09:07in an effort to influence an election.
09:09That's allegedly not foreign influence.
09:11It doesn't pass the smell test.
09:14That was J.D. Vance speaking there yesterday in Hungary
09:16and, of course, before that, our Hungarian correspondent.
09:19And we'll, of course, have live intensive coverage
09:21over the next couple of days on yournews.com.
09:23So do keep a close eye on that.
09:26But now we can bring you that interview that we promised
09:28where our NATO correspondent, Shona Murray,
09:31had the opportunity to speak to Ivo Dalder.
09:33That's a former ambassador for NATO.
09:35And she started by asking him for his assessment
09:38on the very fragile ceasefire.
09:40Take a look.
09:41Although we've been six weeks into a war,
09:44an extraordinary bombing campaign by the United States and Israel.
09:50And I think Iran has the upper hand.
09:52I mean, that has been clear for quite a while.
09:54Remember, the Strait of Hormuz was open before the bombing started.
09:59Ships were going through hundreds of them a day.
10:02Now, ships may be going through.
10:04We don't know how many.
10:05We don't know when.
10:06We don't know where.
10:07And in any case, the Iranians are claiming they will maintain control.
10:12The armed forces of Iran will maintain control over shipments
10:15through the Straits.
10:16That is a massive change in Iran's benefit
10:19and to the detriment not only of the United States and Israel,
10:23but frankly, to all the Gulf states who need the access to the Straits
10:28and so many others who depend on it.
10:30Well, I suppose also your heart would go out to the Iranian people
10:33who were protesting back in January,
10:35who were encouraged to continue their protests,
10:38who were promised that the Americans and the Israelis would assist them
10:41in regime change.
10:43And it actually looks like the Iranian regime has an even more ironclad control.
10:49Yeah, I think, you know, if this war ends like it does now,
10:54not just a two-week ceasefire by longer,
10:57we can say that none of the objectives,
10:59with perhaps the exception of the degree to which Iran still has a missile capability,
11:06that none of the objectives that were set out at the beginning of this campaign
11:10have been met.
11:10So when you look at it all, you say, why did we go to war?
11:15And if this is the result, you can't but conclude
11:18that this was a strategic blunder of historic proportion.
11:22The other question is the damage that has been done to NATO.
11:25I mean, you mentioned earlier there that allies have said this is not our war.
11:30NATO is a defensive organization.
11:32You know, they're a pretty clear cut about that.
11:34Donald Trump is threatening to leave NATO, is humiliating NATO.
11:37It's a paper tiger.
11:39What is the impact of this?
11:41Well, I mean, clearly what's happened over the last six weeks
11:44has been extraordinarily damaging to NATO,
11:48coming on top of the extraordinarily damaging episode of agreements.
11:52And I think the three months that have just passed,
11:57we will look back at it as the worst crisis that NATO has had in 77 years.
12:02It will end up with all European countries doubting that the United States,
12:08or at least a United States led by Donald Trump,
12:11can still be counted upon as a reliable ally when it comes to Article 5
12:15or to collect the defense of their territory.
12:18I know that Vladimir Putin is really, you know,
12:20can't believe his luck with this war in Iran.
12:23I mean, Donald Trump removed some of the sanctions on oil and so on.
12:27But if, let's say, he were to maybe test Article 5,
12:32maybe going into Estonia or one of those places,
12:34I mean, do you think that he might be a little bit more inclined to do that now,
12:37seeing the disarray within the alliance?
12:40Oh, absolutely.
12:41I think we are living in an extraordinarily dangerous period of time.
12:45We see a divide at NATO, which has been the goal of first the Soviet Union
12:48and then Russia for the better part of the 80 years.
12:52A NATO that is truly at loggerheads.
12:54And NATO in which the President of the United States says,
12:57I'm not going to defend you.
12:58Don't count on me, as he put it, or bye-bye,
13:02as he said on his press conference on Monday.
13:06It's a good time to test NATO if you are sitting in Moscow.
13:10By the way, it's a good time to test what you could get away with in Taiwan
13:14if you're sitting in Beijing,
13:15because much of the U.S. military capability has been moved to the Gulf.
13:20And indeed, much of the U.S. military capability has been expanded on this war,
13:26which turned out to be a strategic blunder of historic proportion.
13:31So we're living in a world where the possibility of major adversaries
13:36taking advantage of European weakness and American self-inflicted wounds
13:42is larger now than any time in my lifetime,
13:45and frankly, probably any time in anybody's lifetime.
13:47Final question, Ivo, because you're a dual national, you're born in The Hague,
13:51but I want to ask you a little bit about Mark Rutte's modus operandi
13:56when it comes to Donald Trump,
13:57because some people have found that a bit great in him over the last few months
14:00that he hasn't been firm enough with Donald Trump.
14:03We saw in The Hague him referring to Trump as daddy and so on.
14:06Sometimes that's a bit of a joke.
14:07But there's a feeling that maybe he just plays it up to Trump a little bit more
14:12to the detriment to the European allies.
14:15What's your own interpretation?
14:17I think the big problem that Rutte faced is on the issue of Iran.
14:21He probably went too far.
14:23He probably went too much in the direction of supporting the president,
14:28particularly since 31 of his 32 constituents
14:31believed that the war that the president of the United States had started
14:34was both unnecessary and, most importantly, illegal.
14:39And as a result, supporting the president sort of alienated him
14:43with many other countries.
14:48Shona Murray there speaking to Ivo Daldar.
14:50And now for the view from Lebanon, we can cross over once more to southern Lebanon
14:53to the coastal town of Tir, which is Sur in Arabic,
14:57and bring in our reporter, Echbel Zane.
14:59Good morning, Echbel.
15:00Just tell us how are residents doing there
15:02and describe the situation on the ground.
15:06Good morning, Maeve.
15:08Well, as I said, today is a national morning day in Lebanon.
15:12Hundreds of civilians who were killed and wounded yesterday by Israeli airstrikes
15:18that targeted multiple areas in the country.
15:21That airstrike came without warnings, and the bombardment continued overnight.
15:26Ambulances were racing, hospitals asking urgently for blood of all types.
15:32And also rescue missions were becoming more and more difficult
15:35as tens of people were stuck under the rubble.
15:38That sustained wave of bombardment was sending a clear Israeli message
15:43that Israel, at any coast, refuses to include Lebanon
15:47and any potential ceasefire between Iran and the United States.
15:51And how does that make people feel there?
15:53Are people now fleeing for fear of their lives?
15:58Well, when the ceasefire was announced,
16:01and following Pakistan's statements,
16:03hopes were really high in the country
16:04that we might be included in that ceasefire.
16:08So yes, most people first tried to rush and come back to the south,
16:13yet the Lebanese army prevented some of them because it's not safe yet.
16:18And yesterday, the Israeli army targeted the last key bridge
16:22linking south areas to north areas of the Letani River
16:25to prevent people from returning to the south
16:28and also to assure that the war has not ended yet.
16:32Last day was one of the hardest days from the beginning of the war,
16:37and people feel terrified and traumatized.
16:40So, yeah, many of them say that what's happening right now
16:44in the country goes beyond Lebanon,
16:47and the country is somehow in the middle of a regional equation
16:51between Iran trying to reunite the front again
16:54and the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu,
16:57trying to separate them.
17:00So, for now, all eyes are on the coming hours
17:03to see how things will evolve and unfold eventually.
17:07Indeed, on a very, very fragile situation, Achben Zain.
17:10Stay safe and thank you so much for bringing us that live update there from Sud.
17:15Now, coming up, as we said earlier, this Sunday,
17:18Hungarian parliamentary elections.
17:20For more on what the outcome of these parliamentary elections
17:23could mean for EU-Hungarian relations,
17:25our reporter Jakub Janos now takes a look at the stance of both candidates.
17:32If there is one thing everyone is watching in Brussels right now,
17:35it is the Hungarian elections happening this Sunday.
17:38On one side sits Viktor Orban and his ruling Fidesz party,
17:42and on the other is Peter Magyar and his challenger Tisa party.
17:45But when it comes to the biggest European issues,
17:48your reporter was curious whose side they're actually on.
17:53If they shared a flag to Belgium,
17:56their views on Brussels could not be more different.
17:58Orban fights EU influence to protect national sovereignty.
18:02Whereas Magyar wants to repair the relationship,
18:04but avoids looking like he takes orders from the EU,
18:07deliberately keeping his distance from leaders like Ursula von der Leyen.
18:11Okay, but when they pick up the phone,
18:13who is on the other end?
18:15Orban maintains tight ties with the Kremlin.
18:17His foreign minister was even caught briefing Moscow around key EU meetings.
18:21And Magyar condemns this,
18:23accusing the government of acting on Vladimir Putin's behalf.
18:26However, looking next door to Ukraine,
18:29they differ in theory, but share a political calculation.
18:33Orban regularly blocks EU aid,
18:35campaigning on the fear of war.
18:37And Magyar avoids speaking about Ukraine,
18:39and his party opposes Ukraine's fast-track EU membership.
18:42But you see, there is a slight difference between them.
18:45And Magyar personally delivered aid to a Russian bomb children's hospital in Kyiv.
18:50Finally, looking across the Atlantic,
18:52Orban relies on his close friendship with Donald Trump,
18:55even hosting US Vice President J.D. Vance this week.
18:59Mr. President, you are on with about 5,000 Hungarian patriots,
19:03and I think they love you even more than they love Viktor Orban.
19:06And Magyar rejects this kind of personality-driven diplomacy,
19:10promising to root out Russian influence and restore Hungary as a reliable NATO ally.
19:15So as you can see, all of that paints a very intriguing political picture.
19:20However, let's not forget that in these elections,
19:22Hungarian opposition leader faces a severely unequal playing field.
19:26After 16 years in power,
19:28Fidesz maintains a massive grip over the state and public money,
19:32using redrawn voting districts and compliant media to gain advantage.
19:36And with Hungarian social media flooded with deep fakes targeting Petr Magyar and Tisa Parti,
19:43Sunday's vote will decide if the facts or the fakes shapes Hungary's future.
19:53Jakub Janos there reporting for us,
19:56and you can read more about the high stakes of these elections on euronews.com.
20:00But for now, thank you so much for tuning in to Europe Today.
20:03Stay tuned with us here on euronews for a brand new episode of The Ring,
20:06brought to you from the European Parliament here in Brussels.
20:09Take care and see you soon on euronews.
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