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00:19there's so many things in the sky right now let's face it we live in a time when fear and
00:24distrust
00:25are at an all-time high there are so many government conspiracies it can be hard to tell what's real
00:31and what's not the drones off of new jersey are they chinese are they russian weather control
00:38the death of jeffrey epstein the list just goes on and on and nobody knows how to make sense
00:45out of what's real and what's fake
00:50my name is andrew bustamante and i am a former covert cia intelligence officer and i'm here
00:55to help you separate fact from fiction since leaving cia i've made it my mission to shed light
01:03on the lies cover-ups conspiracies and tactics used to conceal them now i'm going to pressure
01:11test the most sensational ripped from the headlines conspiracy theories out there
01:16and track down key experts eyewitnesses and whistle blows i'll analyze never-before-seen footage
01:25conduct eye-opening experiments he's right here see the drone right there overhead you see it
01:30and demonstrations sleeping all the way down deeper and it's just so fast it's just incredible
01:37nobody thinks of hypnotism as a weapon my mission is simple is there a tunnel that connects us to
01:44to find the truth epstein was reported to have actually hung himself from this side of the bed
01:52which is right here and arm you with the tools you need to determine for yourself what is real
01:58and what are you being manipulated to believe is real
02:17320
02:37all right go ahead and just stop there and stand still for me
02:40that's what a person looks like 140 yards away when thomas crooks planned his shot on then
02:48presidential candidate donald trump he was looking at that in the distance on a stage
03:00the would-be assassin was killed at the scene leaving behind a trail of unanswered questions
03:05who was he what drove him and was this 20 year old acting alone it wasn't long before conspiracy
03:13theories started to swirl and one of them caught my attention so you are alleging that thomas crooks
03:21was groomed by some type of dark intel program mk ultra or otherwise i i think so i've said that
03:31all
03:32along he was programmed programmed this mind control theory took off online maybe thomas crooks wasn't
03:41just some angry young shooter maybe he was part of something more sinister a pawn under the control of
03:48the deep state but is that even possible is it possible to get someone to take action against their
03:55will my own agency the cia spent years trying to crack that code that isn't speculation that's
04:01history i'm not here to unpack the trump assassination attempt i'm here to ask a much bigger question
04:08is it possible to actually create a mind-controlled assassin and what i discover is shocking
04:28in my seven years at cia i spent much of it operating overseas undercover in hostile territory one of my
04:35primary missions was to recruit human assets to identify people with access understand their
04:40vulnerabilities and convince them to switch sides when i hear mind-controlled assassin i immediately
04:48think of a real program that cia ran not that very long ago it all started during the cold war
04:56in korea american prisoners of war who seemed brainwashed and were paraded on tv
05:01from civil service we were going to penya yes and this is when the death march really started
05:08the die was cast if america's enemies could bend a soldier's will the u.s had to learn how to
05:15do it too
05:16and fast so in 1953 cia greenlit a secret program to find out can you break a mind and rebuild
05:25it
05:25the program was called mk ultra the man in charge sydney gottlieb a chemist with a phd and an obsession
05:35with a new drug called lsd experimental drugs including lsd were administered to human guinea pigs
05:44beginning with american soldiers everything's moving this was a totally different era at cia than mine
05:52there was no oversight and people like sydney gottlieb were released on the american public
05:56with blank checks to fund crazy experiments at stanford university they were handing lsd out to
06:04students like it was candy an undergrad named ken kesey loved the experience so much that he stole
06:11lsd from the lab and started handing it out in san francisco
06:18so yes stolen cia acid kicked off a psychedelic revolution but meanwhile mk ultra funded experiments
06:27were turning darker the initial goal was to find the perfect truth serum but soon the mission expanded
06:36erase memories
06:39rewire behavior the room became very distorted it was like some kind of funny hill i'd fallen into and
06:48i couldn't get out i just wanted to scream that i wanted to get out of there i was completely
06:56like they had complete control over me the cia's ultimate dream create a manchurian candidate now we
07:04have come almost to the end one last step a phrase coined after the 1959 novel about a u.s
07:13soldier in
07:13the korean war brainwashed to become a sleeper assassin
07:20mk ultra was officially disbanded in the late 1960s but the public didn't find out about it until the
07:251970s when journalists dug in congress held hearings and survivors sued i believe that every
07:34citizen of this nation has the right to know just what is fact and what is fiction today mk ultra
07:41is
07:41more than a code word it's a meme a myth a shorthand for government mind control it's a conspiracy
07:48theory that wasn't just a theory and the idea of mind control lives on in pop culture and characters
07:56like jason born and 11 from stranger things but i've always wondered what is the real story behind
08:04mk ultra and what did it achieve if anything so i started digging at cia you're trained to look where
08:14others don't and the more i dug the more i realized everyone was too focused on the drugs
08:26and that's when something else in the files caught my eye
08:33hypnosis controlling someone through the power of suggestion and subconscious control mechanisms
08:39i found that lesser known mk ultra experiments studied hypnosis there really isn't much of a
08:46difference between hypnosis and spying it's all about influence control you will leave your present body
08:54the brain has an incredible ability to frame its reality around its perception i want to know can
09:00somebody actually take control of another person's perception their behavior using hypnosis
09:07to determine if there might be a programmed assassin connection between mk ultra and hypnosis i tracked
09:13down mike evans from the national security archive one of the leading researchers on the program
09:18are there any conclusions we can draw about mk ultra's focus on hypnosis there were something like
09:2310 or 12 mk ultra programs that focused on hypnosis one way or the other but a lot of the
09:30excitement
09:30about that was kind of overtaken uh by the discovery of lsd and the possibilities and what happened was
09:40during the investigations in the 70s gottlieb and his boss ordered the destruction of basically all
09:47the files related to mk ultra behind all the behavior control research and with that void of information
09:53many people think that the american government may have created something else correct right in the american
09:58imagination the cia was turning people into sort of anturian candidate killers and it's important
10:08to ask whether they succeeded in doing that uh whether they're still trying to do that
10:14so there is no remaining evidence that mk ultra successfully created a programmed assassin
10:21if you were going to destroy documents wouldn't these be some of the first that you would want to
10:25destroy so my next question is is it even possible to create a mind-controlled killer is hypnosis the key
10:33to turning someone like thomas crooks into a real-life manchurian candidate that's a question nobody has
10:40tried to answer until now i think i found the perfect person to help me answer that question with an
10:51experiment to
10:52figure out the truth
11:03max hello andrew
11:07can i get a latte and a glass of water we've invited our subject to come here tonight they believe
11:13they're
11:13going to have some one-on-one time with me to kind of explore their mind but what they don't
11:16know is
11:17during that time i'm going to be reprogramming them to actually poison your drink wow
11:26max hello andrew and you can just sleep deep all the way down max major is one of the country's
11:32leading hypnotists and you can no longer remember your own name it's just been wiped from your mind
11:36sleep deep all the way down deeper also a trained hypnotherapist max is known for quickly putting people
11:42into a hypnotic state using his mastery of focus authority and emotion that's why i think he's
11:50going to be my perfect partner on this mission i've been a hypnotist since i was 18 years old so
11:56for more
11:56than 20 years now so i've always been fascinated with the mind and obviously mk ultra is a wealth of
12:02information about how people can be controlled without a doubt one of the least discussed least
12:08referenced points of mk ultra was really the hypnosis program and they talk about how they
12:12identified their victims out of insane asylums or psychiatric wards it just seems like a ripe
12:17foundation for hypnosis yeah and the other thing about it is like most of what we know about mk ultra
12:23is based off of witness testimony but the thing about hypnosis is i could actually hypnotize you to
12:28forget that we ever even had a conversation so if i wipe your memory of everything that occurred under
12:34hypnosis you wouldn't be able to testify because you wouldn't even know anything ever happened so it's
12:38almost like we know that experiments were done with hypnotism but we really don't know what
12:43exactly they did and what the results were you know what's really interesting about this is that in
12:46my experience at cia 80 of what we do well nobody ever finds out about insane so here's what i'm
12:54thinking i want you to start crafting an experiment where we can prove this hypothesis true can we create
13:02an experiment that proves that hypnosis could have been a successful tool used in the mk ultra program
13:08can we find people can we put them under hypnosis can we get them to take actions that they know
13:14they
13:14shouldn't take and then have them forget about the actions at the end i've never actually performed
13:20in a situation where in the back of my head i had this like secret ulterior motive i only know
13:25secret
13:25ulterior motives yeah but what i love about this is that we could validate that it's very likely it's
13:31already been operationally deployed it's been active in our world for decades absolutely and
13:36we might be the first ones to show that it's possible at all
13:51in my experience gaining control of a human subject takes weeks it takes months sometimes so the idea that
13:58he's going to be able to hypnotize and identify someone who could become a mind-controlled
14:03assassin in a matter of minutes is just amazing to me
14:17hey hey what's up dude what is this place man this place is pretty cool this is called uh cosmos
14:23magic
14:24theater people think that they're coming to see me do a show but the real goal tonight is to
14:30essentially identify the most susceptible person to hypnosis in the crowd so this is the actual
14:37theater wow look at this so i mean they're coming to a real show we've got cameras you'll see at
14:44the
14:44back of the room here oh yeah we've got a camera up here okay and all of these are wired
14:49to a room i have
14:51set up for you where you can actually observe the audience throughout the show
15:0050 random strangers were invited they are not actors they are not being paid and they don't know
15:07that we are actually running a covert experiment to determine can you create a mind-controlled
15:13assassin and make them forget what they did all right i should get backstage
15:30here's how this works hypnosis isn't anything strange or woo-woo it's literally just i'm your
15:36guide and you're following along with the instructions that i'm giving you
15:38people are skeptical about hypnosis trust me i was too until i learned the science behind it
15:45and here's how it works let's try a really simple exercise first a hypnotist narrows your attention to
15:54one thing it might be a voice a task or your own breathing put both your hands out in front
15:59of you
16:00palm up turn your right hand palm down the body relaxes and the part of the brain that evaluates
16:08and edits information quiets down keep your eyes closed and listen to my voice next the hypnotist guides
16:16the brain into a more flexible state and take a deep breath in through your nose let it out through
16:22your mouth your critical filters soften just enough to explore new emotions and perspectives then comes
16:30the suggestive phase through calm repetitive language the hypnotist introduces specific suggestions
16:37and reinforces them i want you to look at the back of your palm down hand and imagine tied to
16:46that wrist
16:46were hundreds of helium balloons and imagine in your palm up hand was a bowling ball dragging that hand
16:53down and as i snap my fingers one hand gets heavier the other hand gets lighter higher and higher heavier
16:59and heavier and now you can open your eyes and look at your hands but here's the catch not everyone
17:07can
17:08be hypnotized some people struggle to focus and resist letting go of control but max isn't trying to
17:15hypnotize everyone he's looking for the few the few who can give up that control anybody else when
17:22they open their eyes they look their hands their hands are very far apart could you stand up and go
17:25to the stairs give me the name tag on the person with the goatee right now noah thank you uh
17:31delaney
17:32could you come down to the front you can have a seat for now dylan could you join us down
17:36here on
17:36stage give them a round of applause they're doing great by the way
17:41could you join me noah have a seat there look beneath the sides i shake your hand sleep deep
17:46all the way down deeper and deeper sleep deep all the way down max is shaping this entire crowd it's
17:54really quite incredible to see in a moment noah you're going to open your eyes and when you open your
17:59eyes time will not have passed you remember coming into the show but most importantly you've never been
18:04hypnotized one two wide awake all of you open your eyes feeling great good can you stand up
18:09this is a super important because if noah doesn't remember being hypnotized we can erase his memories
18:15cool if you could just get back in your seat because we were in the middle of something
18:17sorry about that yes thank you how did you end up at the show tonight like why did you come
18:23have you
18:23seen someone hypnotized before you wanted to be hypnotized or you're curious about it just curious
18:27curious about it i've always wondered what it felt like right so you haven't been hypnotized yourself
18:33i i don't think so maybe you were hypnotized and you like at a show or something and they made
18:38you
18:38forget or something i don't know if that's possible but i don't think that's possible oh yeah
18:43he shows all the the psychological and physical characteristics that we're looking for
18:48to be suggestible under max's control okay all right hi nice to meet you chris max hello yeah relax
18:55your hand good give it to me good push down look at the back of this finger good look right
18:59here at this
18:59finger look up at me can i hypnotize you i don't think so okay well do you want to be
19:04hypnotized okay
19:05go back to your seat just for now just for now i'll explain as predicted not everyone is susceptible
19:10to hypnosis so max continues working through the audience trying to find the most suggestible the
19:16most programmable potential subjects sleep deep all the way down deeper clyde the next time that you
19:23hear this clicking sound you will stand up you will walk over to the bookshelf you'll place your
19:30phone on the bookshelf and you'll come back to your seat and you'll close your eyes
19:38this is exactly what we would have to do with a mind controlled assassin give them multiple tasks in a
19:43specific order of operations that they have to execute and clyde
19:49he's following orders right now at just the click of a pen
19:55he did exactly what he was supposed to do one two wide awake open your eyes
20:00i am watching in real time something that i thought couldn't be done like where's your phone
20:05to my pocket max is manipulating shaping growing trust built is influencing these people in minutes
20:16thank you for trusting me with your time and your attention my name is max major you guys been great
20:20thank you so much if you had a person like this in the field you'd be able to execute a
20:26wide range of
20:27operational objectives i mean this is incredibly valuable what the holy smokes we have some that
20:36was incredible man i know exactly who i want and i know who it is too show me here
20:45you made people forget their name tonight you made people forget that they were hypnotized tonight
20:49if mk ultra had a fragment then of what you have now
20:55they would have been doing terrible things i'm feeling uncomfortable already just with you saying
21:01that i'm feeling uncomfortable because if you could do this in 30 minutes right what did the mk ultra
21:06program in 15 years max's group session took place in a controlled environment with willing volunteers
21:17but would-be assassin thomas crooks wasn't in a theater he was in the real world
21:24did crooks show any signs of influence what was his mental state leading up to the rally
21:32various reports reveal that in the year prior friends and his own family reported him becoming
21:37more distant and detached likely signs of an undiagnosed mental illness but do you know what
21:44else can create symptoms of delusion and radical personality change hypnosis as my hand closes your eyes
21:50clothes and sleep deep all the way down deeper this was reinforced when i saw this interview with new
21:55york post's miranda divine about crooks's unusual behavior he became increasingly violent and sort of
22:03radicalized against democrats he was pro-trump but then something happened to make him become rabidly anti-trump and
22:12then suddenly something happened in august of 2020 and he just disappeared online so thomas crooks goes
22:20from intensely pro-trump online to insanely anti-trump and then disappears changes like that don't happen
22:29in a vacuum something must have shaped his shift if we're going to ask the question whether a person can
22:35be
22:35programmed to kill we have to go back to the case that made that question famous sirhan sirhan
22:43in 1968 jfk's charismatic younger brother bobby was running for president promising to end the vietnam war
22:51we are a great country and a selfish country and a compassionate country
22:55and i intend to make that my basis for running and over the period but on the night he won
23:01the california
23:02primary
23:05he was gunned down in a hotel kitchen and the assassin sirhan sirhan was captured on the spot
23:13but here's where things really get strange to this day sirhan sirhan claims that he has no memory of
23:20the shooting itself or of the moments surrounding it what do you remember about cheating if you're
23:26willing to talk about that i was obviously i was there but i don't remember the exact moment i don't
23:35remember pulling my gun out of my body or whatever it was located and i don't remember aiming at any
23:42human
23:42being everything was always hazy in my head about that that claim repeated for decades has fueled
23:50speculation that he was under some kind of hypnotic control it raises a disturbing question because
23:56how can someone commit and act like that and have no memory of it afterwards tonight's experiment aims
24:03to answer exactly that question our mission is to get somebody from max's show to commit an assassination
24:11and then forget they ever did it which was the ultimate goal of mk ultra
24:29i love the setting that you picked yeah i think a coffee shop is the perfect place it's also how
24:33something like this might play out in the real world right so here's the setup we've secured a
24:39popular cafe in town and filled it with people who know they're part of a controlled experiment
24:44we've got cameras covering everywhere in the back room i built a monitoring station where i'll start
24:52observing the initial phase of the experiment the subject has been told they've been selected to take part
24:58in a second round of hypnosis with max but what he doesn't know is we're running an experiment and
25:04everyone is in on it except him what they're about to experience may be intense but max is operating
25:12under strict moral boundaries no coercion no harm and if this works the implications go far beyond this room
25:21in many ways this is your first covert operation so i'll tell you the same thing they told me
25:26don't blink you only get one chance to do something covert for the first time yeah yeah yeah and it's
25:32going to be over so fast we will find out tonight whether or not the goal of mk ultra was
25:40met or not
25:41met and it's just two dudes in a bar figuring it out all right there he is that's the man
25:57who's going
25:58to kill me hey what's up man how are you good how are you good to see you thanks for
26:02coming this subject
26:03was such a surprise at the magic theater absolutely suggestive uh grab a seat i'll explain what we're
26:09doing the goal today is to kind of teach you how to be able to turn that dial inside of
26:17you to become
26:18the best version of yourself okay you know what i mean yeah all right so we're going to start with
26:23a little exercise in focus can i hypnotize you uh sure okay so if you could take your left hand
26:29kind
26:30of put your elbow on the table one theory suggests sirhan sirhan wasn't acting alone that a handler was
26:36present triggering his hypnotic state and inciting him to shoot rfk in this experiment the handler is
26:42max here's max focusing clyde's attention sleep deep all the way down deeper and deeper and anything
26:50you hear outside of my voice is just a reminder to come back to me knowing that everything that's
26:55happening here this evening is meant to serve you and so if you're given a task you'll complete it
27:01without question and you'll devote yourself fully to these exercises almost like a soldier so i say
27:07one two wide awake open your eyes good i want you to put both your hands down here and i
27:12want you to
27:12imagine that in this palm is the strongest magnet in the world and that magnet is drawn to a steel
27:16plate
27:17in this table and as i snap my fingers that magnet becomes activated and the harder you try to pick
27:22up
27:22that hand the more impossible it is it's just like life the more you struggle the more you fight the
27:26more effort you put in the harder things get let that relaxation spread down through your arm and
27:31then notice if you don't try so hard how easy it is to lift up your hand you'll just feel
27:34it come right
27:34up now wow all right these are like thinking tasks and essentially you're trying to decode you know how
27:46these shapes relate to these letters i don't know if that's actually a letter this brain teaser exercise is
27:51like an anchor point what the subject will be asked to work on before and after delivering the poison
27:57dash dot dot dash dash he's really just completely consumed in this process of identifying and decoding
28:04dashes and dots dash dot dot dot and that starts with a dash dot oh it could be a y
28:13and as this hand starts to come in you'll notice your eyes change focus and when you notice your eyes
28:17you can just sleep deep all the way down deeper and deeper deeper and deeper you're going to sit
28:22up right here with your eyes closed just relax for me for just a moment and i'm going to place
28:28in your
28:28hand this little glass bottle you can feel it there you can hold it still in that relaxed state you
28:34can
28:34place that glass bottle into your pocket now just somewhere you'll be able to get it later
28:41the next time you hear this sound you'll stop what you're doing on the ipad you'll get up from your
28:48seat you'll walk over to the table in front of you you'll take the glass bottle out of your pocket
28:54you'll open it up and you'll dump its contents into the glass of water on that table
29:00and you'll just come back to your seat put the bottle back in your pocket and when you open your
29:04eyes now you'll get back to work one two wide awake open your eyes that's my signal let's go die
29:23hey brother could i get a decaf latte with oat milk and then a glass of water
29:29water perfect thank you so much sir
29:50okay
29:59a sugar packet
30:19so
30:20Slash block, slash block.
30:29Now for a little drama where we really test the limits
30:32of this experiment.
30:34Will he have any recollection of his actions?
31:00What did, what did, um, what was the drink
31:02that you just gave him?
31:04I'm sorry, if you don't mind, if you could just put this
31:07on hold for one second, if you could just stand over here.
31:11Did you see what happened?
31:12I know you were doing the...
31:13Uh, I, I just heard him collapse, that was it.
31:17Maybe we're just sleeping all the way down deeper
31:19and deeper, deeper, and deeper, all the way down deeper
31:22and deeper, and the deeper you go, the better it feels.
31:24Everything is fine, completely safe, everybody's okay.
31:28Okay, we're good.
31:33In a moment, you're gonna wake up,
31:35and when you open your eyes,
31:38everything will be completely normal to you.
31:41If anybody were to ask you what happened,
31:43you would just remember working on the iPad.
31:47As I say, one, two, wide awake, open your eyes.
31:49Good, feeling great.
31:50Clyde, I need you to get up for me, brother.
31:52You feeling okay?
31:53Yeah, I'm good.
31:56Did you see that guy come in?
31:57No.
31:58I was doing work on the iPad over here.
32:01I don't remember much of anything.
32:04Can you come with me?
32:05Yeah.
32:07I want to show you what's on the other side of the skirt.
32:14Hey, welcome backstage.
32:16I'm Andy.
32:17How you doing?
32:17I'm Clyde.
32:18Clyde, nice to meet you, man.
32:18Pleasure.
32:19Do you know this guy?
32:21No.
32:22We've obviously been filming all of this.
32:23I mean, you were aware that we've been doing experiments in hypnosis,
32:26but there might have been some other things that happened tonight
32:29that you weren't aware of.
32:30Can you have a seat right here?
32:31Sure.
32:32Come on, man.
32:34So what we have here is a replay of what was happening just a few minutes ago.
32:40Okay.
32:42There you go.
32:43There you go.
32:50Do you have a sugar packet?
32:53Proof.
32:53Yeah.
33:02Why did I do that?
33:03What did you put in my drink?
33:05I don't know.
33:07Do you remember putting that in my drink?
33:10No.
33:11I see that I did.
33:13I don't know what it was or why I even got up.
33:19I don't know.
33:24Let's just watch this part.
33:39So this just happened to you?
33:43I don't know what went into the cup.
33:48I didn't even know I had anything.
33:52Do you recall this event?
33:54No.
33:55I was sitting down at the table working on my iPad.
34:00You have no memory of this?
34:02You're talking to Max right now.
34:06And you were just sleeping all the way down deeper and deeper, deeper.
34:10I mean, I can't argue with what I'm seeing.
34:12In a moment, you're going to wake up and open your eyes.
34:14But I don't remember it.
34:17How does it feel right now where you have one memory,
34:21but you're watching completely different evidence?
34:24It's scary.
34:25It's almost like two different truths.
34:28Where is the glass vial that you used on my drink?
34:31I don't know.
34:34Can you check your pockets?
34:41I don't know.
34:43I don't know.
34:47I don't know.
34:50I don't know.
35:05If they heard you say something to the tune of, I don't remember.
35:08I didn't have any control.
35:09Maybe I was hypnotized.
35:10What would someone's reaction be to a statement like that?
35:12They're going to think I'm lying.
35:14Right.
35:14For the record, he's perfectly safe.
35:16And you didn't harm me in any way.
35:19In any way.
35:19Thank God.
35:20And there is a point to all of this, and you did a phenomenal job.
35:24Maybe it's time to tell Clyde who you are.
35:26So my name is Andrew Bustamante.
35:28Okay.
35:29I'm a former CIA intelligence officer.
35:31And we are here doing an experiment.
35:34Okay.
35:35To test whether or not part of the MKUltra experiments were ever successful.
35:39Are you familiar with MKUltra?
35:40They used drugs.
35:42Drugs, frequency, I think acid, different kind of experiments.
35:45To try to take control of a person's mind.
35:47Right.
35:47They also tested hypnosis.
35:49Wow.
35:50But one of the hardest things to find is any evidence or declassified documents related to their hypnosis experiments.
35:57So we know they used it, but we don't actually know what they did with it or if it was
36:00successful.
36:00And you just participated in an experiment that shows how possible it is that this technique is still being used
36:07in government operations.
36:09That's wild.
36:10Thank you for your service.
36:12You did great, man.
36:13I appreciate you.
36:13I appreciate you very much.
36:14I promised you I would spend some time with you.
36:16And if you'd like, I can do that with you right now.
36:19No strings, no hidden agenda.
36:20I'd love to go inside with you and just make a few more changes.
36:23Yeah.
36:24Yeah.
36:24Okay, let's do it.
36:25One of Max's strengths is showing people the power of hypnosis to work through personal struggles.
36:31So he's giving Clyde a personal hypnotherapy session.
36:35What is the one belief that you hold that is holding you back from being the best version of yourself?
36:42See yourself holding on to a heavy bag.
36:45And in that bag is both this belief that you need to let go of, I'm not good enough, and
36:52also anything else that you need to load into it.
36:54Any regret, any fear, you load it up in that bag and it's heavy.
37:00Hypnosis is powerful.
37:01But if you can be strong now in this moment, you're only going to have to carry it one last
37:05time.
37:05And then you'll be free of it forever.
37:07It can create an assassin.
37:10But it can also do things as simple as fixing bad habits.
37:14Three, fill the energy of this universe filling you up.
37:16Four, five, open your eyes wide awake feeling great.
37:19And as complex as healing past traumas.
37:23This was a crazy experience.
37:25Yeah.
37:25I don't even know.
37:27This is like once in a lifetime.
37:29Thank you for the opportunity.
37:32Max has shown hypnosis requires a few key ingredients.
37:36Attention, authority, and emotional framing.
37:39And in the wake of our experiment, when I think of mind control in our world today, I realize those
37:46same ingredients exist somewhere else.
37:48In something we all use every day.
37:58What has this experience taught you about the MKUltra program?
38:01I mean, if there was ever a question of whether you could get someone to do something that's against their
38:06morals or their own personal boundaries, I think unequivocally the answer is there's no limit.
38:12So if we were able to do this with 48 hours of planning, imagine what the government could do weeks
38:19or months with a subject.
38:20If you would have had a week instead of 30 minutes, would the outcome have been greater, more complex, more
38:25impactful?
38:26If I had more time with a subject, I would be comfortable setting the task in motion and leaving the
38:33room or maybe never being in the building in the first place.
38:35Because I have no doubt that during the MKUltra program, they found the same thing that we found.
38:39And that's the reason you've never heard about it.
38:41Do you believe that there might be hypnotized assassins floating around in the world right now?
38:46A hundred percent.
38:48And once they are caught, as soon as they start telling people that they were hypnotized or they don't remember
38:52what they were doing, what's the first thing everyone thinks?
38:54You're crazy.
38:55You're crazy.
38:57They don't remember anyone they met.
38:59They don't remember even what they did.
39:01They don't even remember their own actions.
39:03Who are they going to blame?
39:04That is the ultimate disposable asset.
39:08So much of this reminds me of Sirhan Sirhan and the assassination of RFK Sr.
39:13Because even to this day, Sirhan Sirhan says he just doesn't remember.
39:18He doesn't claim any emotional connection at all.
39:21He doesn't say he's angry about it.
39:23He doesn't say he's sad about it.
39:24He just says there was this block of time that he doesn't remember.
39:27It perfectly aligns with what we just observed.
39:30I don't remember aiming at any human being.
39:33I don't remember any of that.
39:35I'm sorry.
39:36And I've said that from the get-go.
39:39The experiment with Max proves that not only is it possible that mind control could have been used by MKUltra,
39:45but that the likelihood of it being deployed in some capacity today would not be a stretch of the imagination.
39:52Which brings us back to Thomas Crooks.
39:56Was he a mind-controlled killer?
39:59There's no hard evidence he was programmed.
40:02And unlike Sirhan Sirhan, Thomas Crooks isn't here to speak for himself.
40:06But we do know this.
40:08His behavior changed.
40:09And it changed in an environment designed to do exactly that.
40:18Thomas Crooks fits a profile intelligence agencies have flagged for years.
40:24A young man, isolated, disaffected, and chronically online.
40:31Could internet radicalization be the modern-day version of mind control?
40:36How else would you explain the radical change in Crooks' political views?
40:41Something happened to make him become rabidly anti-Trump.
40:45Radicalization rarely feels dramatic from the inside.
40:49It's incremental.
40:51One video, one thread, one comment at a time.
40:55Until the belief that you held most strongly is replaced.
40:59And it feels like it was your idea all along.
41:03If the essential ingredients for mind control are attention, authority, and emotional framing,
41:09modern-day algorithms check every box.
41:11They decide what we see, what we hear, what we're told.
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