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Gterms | Property co-ownership in same-sex relationships

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00:00Pagdating sa usapang ari-arian,
00:02ako, mahal mo man ng isang tao,
00:04e, ibang usapan po ang hatian.
00:06So, may ba't ibang klase po na live-in partners?
00:08At ngayong umaga, e, pag-uusapan din natin
00:11itong Article 147 at 148 ng Family Code.
00:15At sabay-sabay po tayong himayin
00:17ang tungkol sa batas na ito.
00:19Mga asa po natin, ngayong umaga
00:22para sa ating gender-related talk
00:24dito sa G-Term C at Soreni Hayes-Meking.
00:27Kaya naman, simula po natin ang usapan
00:29dito sa G-Terms.
00:38Muli, makasama natin si At Soreni Hayes,
00:41ang abogado or ang host ng abogado ng bayan
00:44at senior and managing partner
00:46ng isang love firm.
00:48Kilala po sa pagbibigay ng libreng legal
00:50na payo online.
00:52At Soreni Hayes-Meking,
00:53welcome back and rise and shine,
00:55At Soreni Hayes.
00:56Good morning, good morning, prof.
00:58Good morning sa lahat ng ating mga manunood
01:00at magandang araw ng kagitingan.
01:02Okay.
01:03At Soreni Hayes,
01:04magandang umaga
01:05and of course,
01:06maligayang araw ng kagitingan
01:08pagpupugay sa ating mga veteranong bayani.
01:11Let's get to know more about
01:12the different kinds of live-in partners.
01:15At Soreni.
01:15Okay.
01:16So, ang live-in partner kasi,
01:18naging uso ito, prof,
01:19kasi may live-in partner
01:21na pwedeng mag-asawa
01:22kung gugustuhin nila.
01:24Okay.
01:24Pero meron ding live-in partner
01:25na hindi talaga pwedeng mag-asawa
01:27dahil sabi ng batas,
01:29hindi sila pwede.
01:30Kaya ang tawag nun,
01:31may legal impediment.
01:33May mga requirements
01:35na hindi nila pwedeng makumpli.
01:37Okay.
01:37Tulad ng kasal yung isa sa iba
01:39o kaya kabit lang yung isa.
01:41So, hindi yun pwede.
01:42So, that is the second type
01:43of live-in partner.
01:45Okay.
01:46You've mentioned
01:46the different kinds of live-in partners
01:49pero kasi ang alam ko
01:50parang may tatlo at under
01:51yung pangat na doon sa pangalawa.
01:53Ah, yun yung same-sex marriage
01:55na under naman sa pangalawa
01:57na meron silang legal impediment
01:59kasi ang lalaki at lalaki
02:01or babae at babae
02:02hindi pwedeng magpakasal.
02:03So, may legal impediment sila
02:05kasi may hindrance.
02:06Hindi po pwede.
02:07So, kung gustuhin nilang magpakasal
02:09hindi sila pwede magpakasal
02:10so, under siya sa pangalawang klase.
02:12Okay.
02:13Before we go further
02:14since this is G-terms
02:16talking about also the different
02:18I mean,
02:19sakop po natin lahat ng gender dito
02:21siguro maganda pag-usapan natin
02:22saglit
02:23yung Article 147 at 148
02:25at orign.
02:26Okay.
02:27So, sa ating mga kaibigan
02:28na nanonood ngayon
02:29ang Article 147
02:30ng Civil Code of the Philippines
02:33ay nagsasabi
02:34na ang dalawang spouse
02:36na mag-live-in partner
02:39at willing sila
02:41na magpundar
02:42ng mga ownership
02:44o mga bagay-bagay
02:45o mga property
02:46ang tawag sa kanila
02:47co-ownership
02:48ang mag-govern.
02:49Ibig sabihin
02:5050-50 sila.
02:52Okay.
02:52Wala nang
02:53wala nang pag-usapan
02:54iba doon
02:54kundi
02:55okay, kunyari
02:56ikaw single
02:56ako single
02:57nag-live-in tayo
02:58then nagkaroon tayo
02:59ng properties
03:00lahat ng properties
03:01natin 50-50 tayo
03:03lahat ng salary
03:04yung mga contribution
03:05natin
03:06kahit ako
03:06hindi naman
03:06nagtrabaho
03:07kahit ako
03:08nasa bahay lang
03:08basta wala tayong
03:10legal impediment
03:11kung gusto rin
03:11natin magpakasal
03:12ngayon o bukas
03:13ay ready po tayong
03:14magpakasal
03:15wala pong question
03:16ng batas
03:17pero yung Article 148
03:19ang sabi ng batas
03:20kapag may legal impediment
03:21example
03:21nag-live-in kayo
03:23pero yung isa
03:23kasal sa iba
03:24o kaya related kayo
03:26by blood
03:26hindi din yun pwede
03:27o kaya same sex
03:29kayo
03:30di ba
03:30so hindi rin pwedeng
03:32magpakasal
03:32doon papasok
03:34kung sino talaga
03:35ang bumili ng property
03:36na yun
03:37doon lang pwedeng
03:39magsasabi na
03:39co-ownership
03:40pero hindi pantay
03:41sino ang actual
03:43na nagbigay ng resibo
03:44doon sa kanya
03:45papasok
03:46ang property na yun
03:47bakit ang same sex
03:48marriage
03:49may legal impediment
03:50ang sabi ng batas
03:51ang pwede lang
03:52magpakasal
03:53ay babae
03:53at lalaki
03:54same sex couple
03:55o
03:55same sex couple
03:57sila pwedeng magpakasal
03:58dahil babae
03:59lalaki
03:59lalaki
04:00pero
04:00in terms of property
04:01in terms of property
04:03pwede silang mag go on
04:04but then again
04:05you have to provide
04:06a proof
04:07na ikaw nga bumili yan
04:08so
04:09kung mas malaki
04:10ang bili ko
04:11like 50%
04:1240% lang sa akin
04:1460% sa iyo
04:15yun ang actual
04:15nating contribution
04:17how could that be declared
04:19what documents are needed
04:20attorney
04:21so mga resibo
04:22kumpleto dapat ikaw
04:24ng mga papel
04:25dokumento
04:26resibo
04:26paano pag lupa
04:27ang pinag-uusapan
04:28syempre dalawa
04:29kayo dito
04:29pwedeng ganang
04:30kung sa titulo
04:30naman ng lupa
04:31dalawa naman
04:32ang argumento
04:33dyan
04:33pwedeng sabihin na
04:34sabihin ng batas
04:36kung sino kasing nakalagay
04:37sa lupa
04:37dyan
04:38dalawang pangalan
04:38kayo talagang dalawa
04:40pero kung yung isa
04:41dyan magsabi
04:42hindi
04:42mas malaki
04:43ang naibigay ko
04:43dyan
04:44ito yung resibo
04:45ko pagbayad
04:4580%
04:46ako nagbayad
04:47then the 80%
04:48goes to that person
04:50okay
04:50rinawin ko lamang
04:51bago ko tumalun
04:52sa same-sex couples
04:53so halimbawa
04:54dun sa mag-asawa
04:55sa isang live-in partners
04:56at yung isa
04:57ay may asawa
04:57or parehas may asawa
04:59pero during that time
05:01that they bought
05:02a new property
05:03or isang ari-arian
05:05so ang mangyayari dun
05:06at o
05:06ni kung sino
05:07ang nage-exist
05:08na partner ba
05:09or how can they prove
05:10na kahit siya
05:11yung legal na kasal
05:12at kung sakaling
05:13may mangyayari
05:14sa kanya
05:16namatay
05:16nagkasakit
05:17or whatsoever
05:18yung property
05:19kailangan nang
05:19i-liquidate
05:20or kailangan
05:21na mapunta
05:22sa kanya
05:22ano ang patunay
05:24na pwedeng gawin
05:25ng live-in partner
05:26para hindi mapunta
05:27doon
05:27sa existing na wife
05:29dahil kasal sila
05:29yung property
05:30actually
05:31okay prof
05:31actually
05:31ang sabi ng batas
05:33dyan
05:33kapag nag-liquidate
05:34na sila
05:35automatic
05:35yung share
05:36ng married
05:37na partner
05:38mapupunta yun
05:39sa legal wife
05:40or sa legal husband
05:41okay
05:41kung halimbawa
05:42mag-asawa tayong dalawa
05:44yung share mo
05:45pag nag-liquidate
05:45na tayo
05:46automatic yung share mo
05:47hindi mo punta
05:47sa legal mong
05:49spouse
05:50paano kung halimbawa
05:51on the property
05:52itself
05:52ay mayroon namang
05:54patunay doon
05:54yung live-in partner
05:55na may resibo ko
05:56na bumili ako
05:57ng property na yan
05:58kasi at the time
05:59na binili yung property
06:00na yan
06:01kahit nakapangalan
06:01sa asawa
06:02nung mismong
06:04hiwalay na
06:04pero hindi pa
06:06annulled
06:06ay
06:08may receive
06:08pinakita na
06:09on the time
06:10kami na yung magkasama
06:11at hindi yung legal wife
06:12at ako ang kasama
06:13sa nag-contribute
06:14ako nag-bayad
06:15yung property na yan
06:16bakit mabumunda pa rin
06:17sa legal wife
06:18kahit ako nag-contribute
06:19so i-liquidate yun
06:20kung magkano yung
06:21actual mong naibigay
06:22okay
06:22so kunyari
06:23ikaw yung
06:23mag-live-in tayo
06:24ikaw yung lalaki
06:25ako yung babae
06:26or same sex
06:27kasi parehas
06:28na may legal impediment
06:29ako kasal sa iba
06:30ikaw kasal sa iba
06:31or ako lang yung kasal sa iba
06:33or same sex tayo
06:34so mag-liquidate na tayo
06:36kasi nag-away na tayo
06:37so anong gagawin
06:39maglabas ka ng resibo
06:41maglabas ako ng dokumento
06:42ngayon ang ilalabas kong dokumento
06:44ay 80% sa akin
06:45ito yung actual
06:46kung naibayad
06:47sa lupang na bilhin natin
06:48or sa kondo
06:49na naibili natin
06:50so yung 80%
06:52goes to me
06:52pero ang sabi ng batas
06:54iyon ay mapupunta
06:55sa aking asawa
06:56kasi yung para sa akin
06:58ay mapupunta sa legal wife
06:59kasi nga
06:59ako ay married
07:00on the 80%
07:02but halimbawa
07:03if I was able to prove
07:04through the resibo
07:06na kahit live-in partner lang ako
07:07may 20% ako dun
07:09at ito yung mga resibo
07:10mapupunta pa rin ba sa akin?
07:11hindi
07:11mapupunta sa iyo yun
07:12yung para
07:13yung aayong sa iyo talaga
07:15but on the 80%
07:15of the other hand
07:16dun yun sa legal wife
07:18yes
07:18pero kung same sex
07:19sa kanilang dalawa
07:20between sa kanila lang
07:21so yung 20%
07:22na prove mo na sa iyo
07:23yung 80% sa akin
07:25so sa ating dalawa lang to
07:26walang involved na other parties
07:28okay
07:28so kailangan laging may
07:29proof of contribution
07:31pag may legal impediment
07:32pero pag pares kayong single
07:34walang problema sa inyo
07:35automatic 50-50
07:36co-ownership governs
07:38yan yung sabi ng batas
07:39sa article 147
07:41ng civil code of the Philippines
07:42okay
07:43let's be clear
07:44ano bang klaseng ari-arian
07:45ang pinag-uusapan dito?
07:47lahat ng ari-arian
07:48real properties
07:49and personal properties
07:50pero usually kasi
07:51since malaki ang value
07:53ng real properties
07:54lupa, bahay, kondo
07:56pwede yun
07:57yun talaga
07:58ang pinupuntiriyan
07:59ng batas
07:59pero kung gusto niyang
08:00isama sa kaso
08:01ang mga mamahaling alahas
08:03lahat ng mga luxury items
08:05pwede rin
08:06walang distinction
08:07ang batas
08:08as to what kind of property
08:09okay
08:10let's go example
08:11on the same sex couples
08:13halimbawa
08:14si partner A
08:15ang nag-buy
08:16ng down payment
08:17pero si partner B
08:18ang nag-maintain
08:19ng bahay
08:20pwede po ba silang
08:21parehong kilalaning
08:22bilang co-owners?
08:23ito ay same sex
08:24so may legal impediment
08:26sino ang nag-bayad?
08:27down payment lang si A
08:30si B
08:31ang nag-maintain
08:32nag-maintain
08:32ibig sabihin
08:33wala siyang pera
08:33ninigay
08:34hindi yun applicable
08:35sa co-ownership
08:36yung nagbigay
08:37ng actual na pera
08:38siya ang may-ari
08:39so kung sinong
08:40nag-complete ng bayad
08:41kasi down payment
08:42walang sinabi mo
08:43sinong nagbigay
08:44ng full payment
08:45doon mapupunta din
08:47sa kanya
08:47yung share na yun
08:48pag nag-liquidate na sila
08:49okay
08:49so on the partner A
08:50for instance
08:51down payment
08:52pero in terms of
08:53maintenance
08:53like monthly contributions
08:55yung amortizations
08:57yung association juice
08:58si partner B
08:59ang baan nagbayad
09:00paano maging contribution
09:02doon?
09:02sa kanya din
09:03mapupunta yun
09:04how would we make sure
09:05na yung contribution
09:06ay ako nagbigay
09:07like on the resibo
09:08kailangan lagi
09:09andun yung pangalan ko
09:10yes exactly
09:11lahat ng ebidensya
09:12so grabe pala
09:13kailangan may trust issues
09:14ka pa rin
09:15exactly
09:15kasi kahit partner A ka
09:17pangalan mo nakalagay
09:18sa partner B
09:19pangalan nito
09:20or unless
09:21you want to declare
09:22that you two
09:22are the two paying
09:23yes
09:24so kailangan doon
09:25pangalan nyo
09:25andun
09:26papasok lang kasi
09:27to prof
09:27pag nag-away na
09:28kapag kasi okay pa
09:30yung relationship ninyo
09:31walang problema
09:32very okay tayo
09:33pero kapag nangyari na
09:35na nag-aaway na
09:36magli-liquidate na tayo
09:37maghati na tayo
09:38doon na papasok itong
09:39anong mag-go-govern
09:40sa property relations ninyo
09:41article 147
09:43or article 148
09:44okay
09:45attorney
09:45paano
09:46kung ang nakapangalan
09:47lang sa isang
09:48kung iyong property
09:49nakapangalan sa isang partner
09:51pero
09:52pareho sila
09:52nag-ibon para doon
09:53ah yun
09:54resibo pa din
09:55para sa may legal
09:57impediment ha
09:57same sex
09:59same sex
10:00okay
10:00resibo pa rin
10:01ang basihan
10:02okay
10:02kahit sa isa lang
10:03yung nakapangalan
10:04pero yung isa
10:05may resibo
10:05na nagbigay naman
10:06talaga siya doon
10:07sa isang
10:07so kailangan patunayan
10:08talaga
10:08kung the names
10:09na nandun sa resibo
10:10evidence talaga
10:11ang basis dito
10:12so dapat
10:13naiintidyan na
10:13mag-partner na yun
10:14yes
10:15okay
10:15kung halimbawa
10:16naghiwalay sila
10:17paano inahati
10:18ang property
10:18kung ownership
10:19ang basihan
10:20sorry
10:21kung hiwalay
10:22ang naghiwalay na
10:24yung same sex couple
10:25so ang paghati nila
10:26lagi
10:26basi lang sa resibo
10:27talaga
10:28attorney
10:28walang iba
10:28kung magkukorte sila
10:30unless beforehand
10:31meron silang parang
10:33affidavit
10:33or agreement
10:35na 50%
10:3650-50
10:37regardless
10:37pwede
10:38pero pwede niyong
10:39kontrahin ng isa yun
10:40kung talagang yung isa
10:40mas malaki
10:41ah
10:41so pwede pa rin
10:42resibo afterwards
10:43pero kasi dalawa
10:44namang kasing klase
10:45ang pag-settle
10:45pwede naman tayong
10:46mag-usap sa labas
10:47na hindi tayong
10:48magkukorte
10:48so pwede yung
10:49agreement na lang
10:50natin
10:50pero pagdating sa
10:51korte
10:52kung yung isa
10:52mag-file talaga
10:53then that's the time
10:54na talagang ilabas mo
10:56lahat ng resibo mo
10:56okay last na attorney
10:58bukod sa property
10:59loan
10:59kasi ang loan din
11:01ay paano to
11:02kung halimbawa
11:03prove pa rin
11:03kung sinong nag-loan
11:04yung pera niya
11:05yun din
11:05ipapasok natin
11:06siya pa rin
11:07ang may-ari
11:07alright attorney
11:08maraming salamat
11:10attorney Hayes
11:10making po atin
11:11nakasama
11:11at para sa ating
11:12mga ka-RSP
11:13syempre
11:14abangan
11:14iba pang gender
11:15related laws
11:16terminologies
11:17and topics
11:18sa pag-uusapan natin
11:19dito pa rin
11:20sa
11:21G-Terms
11:22g-Terms
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