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00:00She assaulted my wife.
00:05She, like, gave me, like, this push,
00:06and she dislocated my shoulder.
00:08He's lying about that.
00:09I have the police report when they call the cops for this.
00:12Well, basically, the only reason why they...
00:15Shh, don't tell me what it means, madam.
00:17You can't tell me what it means.
00:18I read English.
00:19This is Judy Justice.
00:38A lewd Ultime is suing his distant relative,
00:43Will Dane Milholm, for property damage and an assault.
00:48Court, come to order.
00:49All rise.
00:53Have a seat, please.
00:57Judge, case 4054, Ultime v. Milholm.
01:02Mr. Ultime, how old are you, sir?
01:04I'm 37.
01:05What do you do for a living?
01:07I work as a transporter.
01:08As a what?
01:09Transporter.
01:10OK.
01:10It was very difficult for me to understand this case
01:13and the living situation.
01:14You and the defendant have a distant mutual relative?
01:18Correct.
01:19Who is that?
01:20My mother.
01:21Your mother?
01:21Yes.
01:22Well, that's not distant for you, your mother.
01:23Yes.
01:24And she is your?
01:26Cousin, your honor.
01:28And you've been living in a house that's owned by your uncle.
01:31Yes, your honor.
01:32And how are you related to this uncle?
01:34That's my mother's brother.
01:36And they don't have the same father, same mother.
01:39Oh, so they're half siblings.
01:41Yes.
01:42OK.
01:42But you've been living in the house that's owned by your uncle
01:45for how long?
01:46Since May of 2021.
01:49And who do you live there with?
01:50My two daughters.
01:51My twin daughters, Isabel and Elizabeth.
01:52Do you pay rent in the house?
01:54Yes, your honor.
01:55What do you pay?
01:56$300, your honor.
01:57Per month?
01:58Yes, for the room.
01:59Were you paying that and paying the utilities also?
02:02No, your honor.
02:03OK.
02:04In what month and year did you move in?
02:06Maybe September of 2023.
02:09Why?
02:10We were traveling.
02:11Who was traveling?
02:12Me and my wife, we were out traveling.
02:14And pretty much, I got reconnected with my uncle.
02:17And he wanted me to come by, so I came by.
02:19And it was just supposed to be like just maybe a two week stay.
02:22No, I don't understand that.
02:24So your business at that time was either non-existent
02:28and you were just traveling.
02:30No, it was a business that I traveled with.
02:32And yeah, we stationed out in Fort Myers.
02:35Well, where were you and your wife living?
02:36We was traveling.
02:37We were in hotels, New York.
02:39I went to Ohio, as far as Cali, wherever the business was.
02:44So where is this house located?
02:46In Fort Myers, down there.
02:47So when you were in Fort Myers,
02:49you went to live where she was living with her two daughters.
02:53Correct.
02:54Did you have arrangements to go and live with her and her two daughters?
02:57Did you call her?
02:59Did you have any?
02:59No, it wasn't.
03:00It was no arrangements with her because I didn't even know she was in the home.
03:03It was through my uncle.
03:04My uncle invited me there.
03:06He's actually the one that drove.
03:07Well, I don't know that.
03:08He drove us there to the house and then, you know, that's when.
03:11Did you have a conversation with him?
03:14I'm just trying to figure out if he showed up or he came with the owner of the house.
03:19The conversation with the owner of the house, Your Honor, it was an evening.
03:22He called me out of my room.
03:24He said, so guess who's here?
03:25And he said the plaintiff's name.
03:27And he said, he's only supposed to stay here for a couple of weeks.
03:30He has the trailer that he used for business.
03:33He doesn't have anywhere to park it.
03:35He's going to be here for a couple of weeks.
03:36He's going to be sleeping in his car.
03:38Then he should be leaving soon after the two weeks.
03:40OK.
03:41So you're going to be there for a couple of weeks.
03:42And that was in September of 2023.
03:46Yes.
03:46And your whole case involves the fact that at some point,
03:49you claim that you put your things out on the street and your property was destroyed.
03:54That's what your case is about.
03:55And she says that you've been harassing her.
03:58OK.
03:58I want you to tell me, since you were supposed to be there for a couple of weeks.
04:03Correct.
04:03I want you to tell me what you did with a piano.
04:07My wife plays the piano.
04:09I want to know whether in moving in for two weeks, you moved in your piano.
04:14It was a foldable piano.
04:15And it wasn't just two weeks.
04:17We weren't supposed to be there for two weeks.
04:18Well, that's what she says.
04:20And that's actually what you say.
04:23You say that you moved around.
04:25You didn't have one place to live.
04:27Is what you're telling me that you and your wife were planning to make this Fort Myers,
04:32where she was living with her two girls, that you were going to use this place as your home?
04:36Yes.
04:38Really?
04:39Yes.
04:39Where's your uncle?
04:40I tried to get him involved, but he didn't want to be involved.
04:43What's his phone number?
04:44I'm sure you guys have the number.
04:46I just...
04:46Just a second.
04:47What do you mean?
04:47You don't have his phone number?
04:48No, I don't have my phone on me for that.
04:50Just a second.
04:50Do you have his phone on me?
04:51Yes, Your Honor.
04:52I have a sworn written statement by my uncle with his phone number.
04:55No, no, no, no.
04:55Just a second.
04:56Kevin, would you hand that document to Sarah, please?
05:04Sarah, I'd like you to just take a look at that.
05:07I just want to know if I want to take the time to do it.
05:10So, I know you don't want to read the whole thing, but just some key highlights.
05:14It does say that she paid rent and utilities, which we know is not true.
05:18And it says that none of his belongings were ever in the home.
05:22It says that he was only allowed to sleep in his car in the front yard.
05:25Are you in the house now?
05:27No.
05:27We stayed away.
05:28Shh.
05:29That's a no.
05:30No.
05:30Are you in the house now?
05:31No, Your Honor.
05:32They asked me to leave because of...
05:34Who asked you to leave?
05:35The police because of a complaint he put on me about touching his belongings.
05:41Did your uncle ever ask you to leave?
05:43No, Your Honor.
05:44Okay.
05:44Here's the statement.
05:53Your uncle indicates that you called the police several times to the house complaining about
05:58her.
05:59Is that correct?
06:00That is correct.
06:01How many times?
06:02I've called three times.
06:04What was the reason for the first call?
06:06Um, she assaulted my wife.
06:08How did she assault your wife?
06:10Pretty much she was in the home.
06:12Not pretty much.
06:12I don't want to hear pretty much.
06:13She was in the home.
06:14Were you home?
06:14Were you home?
06:15Yes.
06:16And this happened?
06:16Did you witness it?
06:17I didn't witness the physical altercation.
06:20That's all I want to know.
06:21I want to know what the physicality was.
06:23Okay.
06:24You can step up.
06:29Your Honor.
06:30He threatened my life.
06:31He threatened my kids.
06:32My daughters was witness to that.
06:34He threatened them and like he's going to put two bullets in my head.
06:36He's going to send the whole house on fire with me in it.
06:39Very carefully.
06:50Allude Ultime claims his distant relative, Will Dane Milholm, caused property damage to various
06:57household items.
06:59Will Dane is countersuing for harassment and emotional distress.
07:03Now, I want you to tell me when the assault took place and what happened.
07:08The assault took place on August 4th, um, around like 10 o'clock.
07:12Um, we also do have...
07:14Just a second.
07:14August 4th of 2023?
07:16No.
07:17This was this year.
07:18Of 2024.
07:19Yes.
07:19So you had been living there and not living there.
07:22You traveled off and on and then you came back.
07:24All right.
07:24Yeah.
07:24August 2024.
07:26Yes, around 10 o'clock.
07:27Okay, so right now you have been back and forth and you've lived in many places between
07:32September 2023 and August of 2024.
07:36Well, basically we went...
07:37Not basically.
07:38I don't want to hear basically.
07:39So we...
07:39Have you lived in many places?
07:40No.
07:41How many places had you lived?
07:43Just there.
07:43But like we said, we were traveling before.
07:46We went to him and then we decided because conflict started arising, so we went and traveled
07:52again.
07:52And this is not the first time that we've had problems with her.
07:55And this is not the first time that she's tried to assault me.
07:59Just to say, listen to me.
08:00She was living there paying rent.
08:02Yes.
08:03You were not.
08:04We were living there.
08:05And you were not...
08:06Listen to me.
08:06You were not paying rent.
08:08We did pay rent.
08:09To whom?
08:10To his uncle.
08:11Yes.
08:12Really?
08:12That's right.
08:13His uncle says that you were not allowed into the house, that all the stuff that you
08:16allege that you had was out in your trailer or whatever camper.
08:21That's false, Your Honor, because my son slept inside of that house.
08:24Yes.
08:25My daughter slept inside of that house.
08:27That's not...
08:28We had all of our belongings inside of that house to the point where it was always being
08:32touched, always being rampaged through.
08:34I want to know how you got there.
08:36He just...
08:37I want just a second.
08:38I want to know how you got there.
08:40She was living there for three years.
08:42Yes.
08:42At some point, the uncle brought you there.
08:45Now, so now I got John speaking.
08:47She's not the only family member.
08:48Now, what?
08:49She's not the only family member that lives there.
08:51It's not just her house.
08:52Who lives there?
08:53There's multiple people that live in that home.
08:55Yes, there is.
08:55It's not just...
08:56Who else lives there?
08:57Um, another cousin as well.
08:59Um, there's another room that has roommates in it.
09:02So, it's not just her.
09:04Ah!
09:04Yeah, it's...
09:05Just a second.
09:05Yeah.
09:06I'm beginning to get a whole different picture.
09:08Is it true that there are a lot of people that live in that house?
09:11Another family member, Your Honor?
09:13Multiple.
09:14How many people in the other...
09:15Just her.
09:16And there's a gentleman that lives in the back of the house,
09:19but not in the permanent house where we are.
09:21I don't care whether he lives on the property.
09:23And also a young couple.
09:23Yes, well.
09:23Okay, so now I understand.
09:25Yeah.
09:25And he collects rents from these other people?
09:26Multiple people.
09:27Not the other family member, Your Honor.
09:29The gentleman in the back, I believe he collect rent from.
09:33Okay.
09:33So, now we're talking about your property.
09:35Because you alleged...
09:37Whatever.
09:37You called the police once because she had assaulted your wife.
09:39You were going to tell me about the assault.
09:41We have the video.
09:41Data takes place.
09:428-4.
09:43Show me a picture of the assault.
09:45We have a video.
09:46It should be there.
09:47Okay, I'd like to see it.
09:53And that all took place in front of my child.
09:55Just a second.
09:56I'm not...
09:56Sarah, did I miss something?
09:58I think she grabs...
09:59You could see...
10:00The phone.
10:00Either the phone or her arm or something.
10:05I'll see.
10:07I don't know what that is.
10:09That's his hand.
10:10Yes, I had to intervene.
10:11Because, yeah.
10:12Yeah, that's when I came inside and I grabbed...
10:14She, like, launched at me because I started recording because she was being very violent.
10:17Just a second.
10:18What is this?
10:18That's a hand.
10:20Yeah.
10:20I bring the camera.
10:21It's a hand.
10:21His hand.
10:22Oh, okay.
10:22Can I see pictures of whatever injury you had?
10:25Yes.
10:25Um, I don't have pictures.
10:26Shh.
10:27The answer is you don't have any.
10:28No, I do not.
10:29Okay.
10:30Do you have any medical reports from that incident?
10:32I do not.
10:33I wasn't able to obtain it.
10:34So you weren't injured.
10:35Okay.
10:36So you called the police?
10:37Correct.
10:37Yes.
10:38And did you request a protective order?
10:40Yes.
10:41Was it granted?
10:42Yes.
10:42Yes.
10:43Okay, I'd like to see it.
10:48Don't speak yet.
10:49Okay.
10:53This is a temporary injunction for protection.
10:56And then it was extended.
10:58Due to the hurt.
10:58Was it ever granted?
11:00Yes, it was granted.
11:01Shh.
11:01Can I see the order?
11:02Yes, it's...
11:03Please.
11:07This is just the order to appear.
11:08Yes, it was granted temporarily.
11:10It was never granted.
11:11Finally, I see it was granted temporarily.
11:12No, it's still ongoing.
11:13No, listen to me, sir.
11:15Is that case still going on?
11:17Yes.
11:17So it was never granted.
11:19It was an ex-party order made by you alone
11:21that the judge granted temporarily.
11:23I'm not interested in that.
11:24Okay.
11:25What was the second reason you called the police?
11:28Um, we have a video of her coming up to the vehicle
11:31after that assault acting like nothing happened.
11:33So she knocked on the card where I was sitting at
11:35and she wanted to speak to me.
11:37And I told her because the fact she assaulted my wife,
11:39I didn't want to speak to her.
11:41So when I stepped out because them two were going at it again,
11:44she like gave me like this push
11:45and she like kind of dislocated my shoulder and I had to call.
11:48Oh, I'd like to see that.
11:49You had that on video?
11:50Um, I don't know if I had a push.
11:55She gave you like a push and she dislocated your shoulder.
11:59Yes.
11:59Listen to me carefully.
12:01Show me a picture and show me the medical report.
12:05I didn't have time to have made the picture.
12:06Show me the medical report of your dislocated shoulder.
12:10We didn't bring the medical report for that either.
12:12But really?
12:12Yes.
12:13Um, between?
12:14But pictures and conversations between her
12:16when it happened of her and her daughters,
12:18and this is her response of her daughters apologizing
12:20on behalf of her mother for assaulting me that night.
12:23Oh, I'd like to take a look at that.
12:27An assault, so you have to know.
12:29A technical term for the assault means an injury.
12:31Yes.
12:32Okay.
12:32Well, this is on August 5th.
12:34And who's Lulu?
12:36Me.
12:37That's my nickname.
12:38Lulu was just confused, but he's in a lot of pain right now.
12:42His neck is swollen from his disc.
12:43I didn't realize she pushed him that hard.
12:45That's your daughter we're talking.
12:47What'd you push him for?
12:48Because he was forcing her to come and fight me,
12:50and he was having the camera just like?
12:52He was having like that, Your Honor?
12:53He's having it in my face, forcing her, telling her,
12:55excuse my language, my wife gonna whoop you or whatever.
12:59And I'm telling him, back off, back off.
13:00Okay, what's the third time it was?
13:01And I put my hand like this.
13:02What's the third time you called?
13:03The third time I called was because
13:05after the injunction was served,
13:07we get home with the children from picking them up
13:09from the bus stop, and she's parked in front of the house.
13:12Okay, so this is all a very, very bad situation.
13:15Yes.
13:18So you took pictures of the time
13:20where there was no destruction of the property,
13:22but you didn't take pictures of the time
13:24where there was destruction of the property.
13:26That doesn't make sense to this elderly brain.
13:39Allude Ultime has accused his distant relative,
13:43Wildane Milholm, of damaging his personal property.
13:47Wildane is countersuing, claiming a lewd, threatened her.
13:51Now you're gonna show me a picture of your damaged property.
13:55And I assume this has identification on it.
13:58Yes.
13:58Are those all pictures of the damaged properties?
14:01And when do you allege this damage took place?
14:04All right, this is...
14:06This is...
14:06What is this?
14:08That's our stuff that was placed outside.
14:09Our what?
14:10Our stuff that was placed out of the home, onto the side,
14:13and bleach and stuff poured onto it.
14:16I don't see any bleach.
14:17I see it covered with a tarp.
14:19Yeah, they tried to cover it after the fact,
14:21when we called the cops to come and...
14:23Your Honor, I have a police report when they call the cops for this.
14:26So I'm gonna take the police report.
14:28This is nonsense.
14:28This is nothing.
14:31And please check the date, Your Honor.
14:33I...
14:33This is a camera.
14:34I don't care about the cameras.
14:36You installed cameras.
14:38She broke them, right?
14:39Yes.
14:39All right, okay.
14:40What is this?
14:41This is the same picture she showed me before.
14:44I don't see any bleach.
14:45I see it uncovered with a tarp.
14:47It's next.
14:51The narrative came to the house,
14:53complained of that to you, states that they left it around four,
14:56and just came back, states that their items were not how they left it.
15:00Meaning they were outside...
15:01Shh, don't tell me what it means,
15:02madam.
15:03You can't tell me what it means.
15:04I read English.
15:06Okay, this is very easy.
15:08They spoke to you, right?
15:09The police?
15:09No, they didn't.
15:10Don't speak, sir.
15:12They spoke to her because she's the complainant.
15:15Do you understand?
15:16Yes, yes.
15:17The day that we called.
15:17Don't speak.
15:19Complainant, that's you.
15:21Advise that her articles were moved around by an unknown party.
15:25Yes.
15:26But that nothing was destroyed or stolen.
15:29This call is civil in nature as no crime has been committed.
15:33Complainant's husband claimed to have an injunction against the defendant,
15:36but none were located by the officer.
15:38Can I say something?
15:39You can say anything you like.
15:41You told the police that your items were moved around,
15:43nothing was destroyed, and nothing was stolen.
15:47Yes.
15:47That's what you told the police.
15:49What's the date of that report?
15:49Don't speak.
15:50She was not supposed to be there, Your Honor.
15:53Justice, I don't care.
15:55You told the police your items were moved around,
15:58and nothing was destroyed, and nothing was stolen.
16:01It was rampage through.
16:02That's what you told the police.
16:03No, I did.
16:04I said they were rampaged.
16:05No, that's not what you said at all.
16:08Rampage.
16:09So you're telling me that the police officer lied when he made up this report?
16:12So what's confusing about that as well is...
16:14It's not confusing to me, madam.
16:16It's very, very clear.
16:17We had to reach out to the sheriff's department because...
16:21The FMPD that came out actually got in trouble for that.
16:25Just a second.
16:28Understand something.
16:28You took the pictures.
16:30You told the police, consistent with what I'm seeing,
16:34that nothing was destroyed or stolen.
16:37That's what you told the police the same day when they came out.
16:39No, that happened in two different occasions.
16:42Well, then show me a picture of the destroyed property.
16:45I don't have any pictures of that.
16:46Your case is dismissed.
16:47We're finished here on your side.
16:50Dismissed.
16:50Now we have cross-complaint for harassment.
16:53You're cross-complaining that they harassed you by calling the police.
16:56Yes, Your Honor.
16:57That's dismissed.
16:57He had actually reason to call the police
17:00because there were kerfuffles going on in your house.
17:02I don't know who started it,
17:04but it's never a good idea for three, four families to live in the same house.
17:09That's absolutely ridiculous.
17:11Your Honor, he threatened my life.
17:12He threatened my kids.
17:13I have...
17:15Are you living outside this house now?
17:18Do you live someplace else?
17:19I have to. I've been in a hotel since then, Your Honor.
17:21You can ask. My daughter was witness to that.
17:23He threatened them and like he's going to put two bullets in my head.
17:26He's going to send the whole house on fire with me and it.
17:28Listen to me very carefully.
17:30You took your daughters, you left the house, and I read some of the texts of your daughters to him.
17:37You're out of the house now. Somebody moved his stuff.
17:41Nobody destroyed it because they have no evidence that anybody destroyed it.
17:46And they have a police report that consists of a document saying she said nothing was damaged or stolen.
17:54That didn't happen during the same time.
17:56I repeat myself once and then I'm finished with you.
18:00Your Honor.
18:00Then show, don't speak.
18:01Okay.
18:02Then show me if you say it was a different time.
18:05I don't.
18:05Then show me pictures of the time it was destroyed.
18:08And if you don't have pictures.
18:10So you took pictures of the time where there was no destruction of the property,
18:14but you didn't take pictures of the time where there was destruction of the property.
18:18That doesn't make sense to this elderly brain.
18:21So your case is dismissed as is your counterclaim.
18:23We're done here.
18:24I'm finished.
18:25It's lunchtime.
18:26This court is adjourned.
18:31I am satisfied with the judge's dishes and because she could see clearly they were lying.
18:36It was very terrible to hear that type of verdict because of the fact that
18:41my children still are out of their stuff.
18:43He made a threat that he was going to put two bullets in my head
18:45because if my daughters didn't give him my phone number.
18:49Come on, she's the military woman.
18:52That sounds like something coming out of her mind that she would say to us.
18:54See, I don't think he believes in family, you know, with him because it's not,
18:57I'm not the only person.
18:58I don't need families like that at all.
19:00I do not, definitely do not want to go through that again.
19:04You know, something fishy about that was those photos that they had
19:07that they kept wanting to show you of what just looked like their things
19:10placed outside, obviously touched, but not the way the papers made it seem,
19:15bleached and destroyed and cut up or however the papers made it seem.
19:18Why would you only take pictures of what it looked like outside, but not damaged?
19:23So just a little bit of a red flag.
19:24They said it was two different events.
19:25Two different events.
19:26Yes, she kept saying it was, oh, two separate times.
19:28Well, why wouldn't you take a photo or a video the second time?
19:31I always think about that when we see cases like this where
19:34a video with a time stamp or a photo with a time stamp would seal the whole case for you.
19:39I think about it.
19:40I always take a video every time I, if I'm renting a place,
19:43the day I moved in with the time stamp, the day I moved out, you know, what things look like.
19:47How did you get so smart?
19:49I don't know.
19:50You've been watching for a long time.
19:52Oh, yeah, I'm an avid viewer.
19:53You take one when you move in, you take one when you move out.
19:57It's just good to have because you never know.
19:59If someone broke into somewhere I used to live after I'd moved out,
20:02I at least would have the video to say, well, this is what it looked like when I left.
20:06And I think the same thing here, they didn't really need it.
20:09It was questionable whether they even lived there, paid rent.
20:12There seemed to be a lot of moving parts in that house.
20:14But, you know, you don't just show the photos of when it's not so bad.
20:18There's no point in showing photos where there was no damage or theft,
20:22especially when the police reported that there was no damage or no theft.
20:26And then not to take pictures of when there was the event, when there was damage.
20:32It didn't make sense to me.
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