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00:18The Narrow River killing refers to the brutal murder of Paul Sparling.
00:24Fellow student Shane Martin was arrested for first-degree murder,
00:27though it was widely believed his classmate Oliver St. Ledger was responsible for the crime.
00:34When I was in high school, a kid drowned.
00:36I was, um, involved.
00:38Paul just attacked Shane.
00:40And Shane just kept on pushing Paul's head underwater.
00:44Ciara, fucking liar.
00:45Ciara, what are you talking about?
00:47Don't follow me!
00:48Did you forget the restraining order, Shiloh?
00:51You need to get Oliver St. Ledger away from my family.
00:53I don't know what you're talking about.
00:54Oliver St. Ledger is living with my little sister.
00:58Megan?
00:59What the fuck, Shiloh?
01:01I'm going to help you get rid of him.
01:03I'm gonna take care of it.
01:04No, you.
01:05Shiloh, I need you to trust me that I'm gonna handle this on my own.
01:09Oliver, are you there?
01:10This woman, Ciara, is not who you think she is.
01:14It's Megan Martin. She's Shane's sister.
01:17It's okay, Dan. He knows.
01:34Anything they start off fighting about, he can bring it back to that.
01:37I mean, this time, it's about how my mom never puts gas in the car and he always has to
01:41do it when he's already late.
01:43You know, and somehow he brings it back to how my school wants me to apply to all these private,
01:46out-of-state D1 colleges for lacrosse.
01:48And it makes him look like the bad guy, because you can't afford any of them.
01:51Shane, I mean, your dad is the Kevin Garnett of talking shit about Bridgefield.
01:56You know, and also there's such thing as lacrosse scholarships.
01:59Ivies don't have athletic scholarships, and nowhere else is gonna be a four-ride.
02:03Whatever. I mean, talking about why all these schools are no-goes also pisses them off.
02:07You're so lucky.
02:08Yeah, I know you think so.
02:10I'm not even talking about being able to afford Stanford.
02:13Being able to afford to buy Stanford and rename it after yourself.
02:16St. Ledger University.
02:18Hey, shut up. Shut up, dude. Please.
02:20I'm talking about not having to listen to your parents screaming at each other every five minutes
02:25over something you can't change and neither can they.
02:27Well, I mean, to want to argue about shit, you kind of gotta care about it.
02:31You know? It's not that difficult.
02:33Well, I mean, any time mine won't stop caring so much, that would be great.
02:36But they won't, because they can't live unless they're up my ass.
02:39My sister can't either. I mean, Shiloh moved to fucking Pawtucket.
02:42She's still trying to be my boss.
02:44What I would give...
02:45Here we go.
02:46...to be you for one day. Just one, just to try it, just to see.
02:49Not even for the money, just for the, like, silence.
02:59That guy might have told Paul we would be here.
03:01Whatever. He's not a bad guy if you give him a chance.
03:03No, you say that every single time.
03:06Nah, he's just insecure.
03:07Yeah, I promise. If you hang in there, eventually he stops being such a dick.
03:11Prove it.
03:12What does that even mean?
03:13What's up, fuckheads?
03:18You gonna be okay? What's up?
03:19What's up as I fucking ran here?
03:21You're kidding. From Bridgefield?
03:22Yeah, that's right, shithead.
03:24Wow.
03:25I mean, I know Coach said you need to do more cardio, but damn.
03:31You guys are so into this place.
03:33And it was cool for, like, you know, five minutes in middle school.
03:37Jesus.
03:39And don't you literally have, like, a massive house with a fucking helipad?
03:44He doesn't have a pad.
03:45Why would anybody want to hang out here instead of there?
03:47Your dad have, like, no peasant rule or something?
03:50Oh, because I'm a peasant, right? A scholarship peasant?
03:53Yeah, I've been in there.
03:54Has your dad even lived in that house before?
03:56Like, uh, even when you were a baby?
04:00Because my dad says your dad hasn't been back to Narragansett since, like, the 90s.
04:04How would your dad even know that?
04:05Well, he's in global finance too, dude.
04:07People talk to each other. It's a network.
04:09Who cares?
04:10All these houses are fucking freezing and none of the furniture is comfortable, okay?
04:14Yeah.
04:16What the...
04:17Are you fucking kidding me? There's mosquitoes now?
04:19Come on.
04:20Is your mom in town? Is that why we can't go to your house?
04:23What's your fucking deal, dude?
04:24Uh, it's buggy and clammy here and it doesn't not smell like peat.
04:28Uh, you have a house too, dipshit.
04:30Yeah. Well, they're selling it.
04:33Because the whole divorce is my dad punishing my mom for getting mad at him for cheating, so...
04:40That's hard.
04:42I'm really sorry.
04:46Thanks.
04:49Yeah, how is your mom doing?
04:50Shittily. Why?
04:52Just sucks, that's all.
04:55Makes total sense why she'd be having a tough time with everything.
04:58Yeah.
05:00Makes total sense your mom would be running her mouth again about someone she barely fucking knows.
05:04Fuck you, she knows it.
05:06Yeah, from sidelines and sport banquets, but not really.
05:08What are you even talking about?
05:09You just seem like you know something, Shane, so you tell me.
05:12Your mom's the one saying shit she heard from somebody who heard it from somebody like it's fucking real.
05:16She saw it in the paper.
05:17Who reads the local news? No one.
05:20When MPD arrests someone, it's always in the local police blotter.
05:23I'm not saying it should be, but...
05:24She didn't think she was gonna need a basket, and then she had too many things in her hands, so
05:27she was gonna go get one.
05:29I mean, she didn't even leave the fucking store, and now everybody thinks she's a fucking thief.
05:40You know what? I'm sorry.
05:42Yeah, I'm sorry too.
05:43Yeah. I'm sorry your mom's a bitch who won't shut the fuck up.
05:47Fuck the...
05:50Man, what's your fucking problem?
05:51Fucking fuck!
05:55Hey, guys!
05:56Fucking fucking bitch!
05:57Guys!
05:58Fucking...
06:00Take a fucking sec. Take a sec, okay?
06:03Chill out.
06:07Who are you to wave your finger?
06:11You must have let out your head.
06:16I hold deep in muddy waters.
06:20You're practically raised by land.
06:22Stop!
06:25Rob the grave to sell the cradle and let the evidence down.
06:34You're the only one who's in the middle.
06:41No!
06:42No!
06:44No!
06:46No!
06:47No!
06:48You must have let out your head!
06:54No!
06:55No!
06:57No!
06:57No!
06:58No!
07:00No!
07:00No!
07:00No!
07:00No!
07:01No!
08:03We didn't go to the Narrows today after school, all right?
08:06And we didn't know Paul was going to be there.
08:08He didn't ask me to hang out after practice,
08:09and he wouldn't have asked you anything,
08:11because you're not even fucking friends.
08:14I had to go home and babysit my sister anyway.
08:17So you gave me a ride, and then you what?
08:23I went home, and I studied for chem until I got a headache,
08:34and then I went to bed.
08:45What about your, um...
08:50I wiped out drinks, going in drills,
08:52and someone must have stepped on me.
08:57I'm sorry.
09:00I'm sorry.
09:03I know you were just trying to help me.
09:07Save me.
09:10You probably did.
09:13Thanks.
09:42What are you doing?
09:44Nothing.
09:48Where were you?
09:51Those are dirty.
09:53Yeah, whatever.
09:54Why are you wet?
09:55I took a shower.
09:56When?
09:57Just now.
09:58When I thought I heard something outside.
10:01What did you do to your face?
10:03Nothing.
10:04You look like you...
10:04No, I don't.
10:05Megan.
10:12I got fouled at practice, all right?
10:14And then I came home, and I took a shower,
10:16and I'm back in here with you,
10:18like I have been this whole time.
10:21Are you okay?
10:26No, no, I'm fine.
10:29I'm hungry.
10:31You want to make stovetop s'mores?
10:32No.
10:57I love you.
12:00It has to be now.
12:03I'm sorry.
12:05It's really important.
12:08I hope you think so.
12:10Okay.
12:17Hello?
12:18Can anyone hear us?
12:20Gretchen and Kenji, if you're on, get off.
12:23So what's so cloak and dagger-y?
12:26I killed someone.
12:27What?
12:30Who?
12:35Paul.
12:37Paul Sparling.
12:40You're sure he's dead?
12:50Yeah.
12:52We were at the Narrows.
12:55Who's we?
12:58Me, Shane, Martin, and Paul.
13:01Who else?
13:02It was just us.
13:05Okay.
13:06Stop talking.
13:08I need to think.
13:18All of it.
13:19I'm Detective Sheehan.
13:21My lieutenant's just getting off a call, but we can start.
13:24Is this being recorded, Jerry?
13:26I'm out of custodial interrogation, so I want to make some notes, but first things first.
13:32Your lawyer here, Mr. Sykes, he filled me in a little bit on what happened.
13:35But obviously, I want to hear from you.
13:38Can you tell me about it?
13:40Just start wherever you're comfortable.
13:42If I have any questions, I'll ask.
13:48Yeah, I was, um, I was home, and I had been studying all night because I had a midterm
13:55coming up, and I didn't really understand the material.
13:59Uh, but I, uh, I forgot to eat.
14:02So, uh, after a little while, like, I got a headache, and, um, I set an alarm for early
14:09so I can, uh, wake up and do some more in the morning.
14:13But then I, uh, I woke up, uh, because someone was, um, was, uh, buzzing to be let in.
14:23And who was that?
14:25Um, I was, uh, Shane, Shane Martin.
14:31Shane Martin, okay.
14:33And this was what time?
14:37This was around midnight.
14:41Last chance.
14:42No idea.
14:43You have no idea?
14:45No.
14:46You can't think of a single thing happening they might want to talk to you about?
14:49Right, and I don't buy it, is why I keep asking, because I want to have some idea of what
14:53kind
14:53of buzzsaw we're about to walk into.
14:55You knock out some more streetlights or steal some shit your buddies think is nothing, but
14:59to regular people means real money.
15:01God, like, you and your friends never gotten into anything stupid before.
15:04Except, you know what, no one at your school ever got into an Ivy League college.
15:07Probably doesn't even know what one is.
15:08Oh, shh.
15:10So Shane's going to the Ivy League now.
15:12Wow.
15:13Really.
15:13Wow.
15:14When were you guys going to tell me that?
15:15After we talked to the cops, I guess?
15:17Could you have a little faith in your son, please?
15:19Could we just...
15:19Because I have no faith in my son, right?
15:21He's a good kid.
15:22So you're on with that whole narrative again that I have no faith in my son.
15:25He could have a better future.
15:31He could have a...
15:33Beth, hey, great to see you.
15:36Fabulous.
15:37You're good too.
15:38You're bad.
15:39Listen, I want you to tell your father he said hello.
15:41I mean, I'm going to flip a nail.
15:44Preason.
15:45And out of here.
15:48Stop!
15:49Shane!
15:49What's up?
15:50Hey!
15:50Hey!
15:51Hey!
15:51Hey!
15:51Take his hands!
15:52Hey!
15:53Bring him out!
15:53Bring him out!
15:54Stop it!
15:54Hey!
15:55Hold on!
15:56Stop!
15:56Come on!
15:56Get easy!
15:58Stop it!
15:59Get out of here!
15:59What are you doing?
16:00Where are you going?
16:01Easy.
16:01Get back inside.
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16:53Oh, no, no, no, no.
16:56What?
17:33Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
17:56Please, please.
17:58No, please don't.
18:00Please.
18:03I still think we should at least go to Urgent Care.
18:05I feel way better now.
18:08I really do.
18:09All right.
18:11Still, an hour ago you were passing out in your car.
18:17Uh, amoxicillin.
18:19Here.
18:21Take two.
18:22Or maybe four.
18:24why do you just have these dog bite in the stop and shop parking lot yeah
18:30apparently different tail waggings have different meanings i thought a dog
18:34wagging its tail always means friendly it does not
18:39yeah i thought that too yeah well now we both know better
18:52hey what about your mom what if we called her no i think it's uh i think it's 12 hours
18:57ahead there
18:57well still wouldn't be past 11 p.m i don't think that there's reception there's gonna be reception
19:02at a resort uh she's off the coast it's her friend's boat um and the school knows she told
19:08them i'm gonna have to mark you an excused absence i'll say i saw you and i sent you home
19:13sick
19:14it's not even a lie
19:18and i'll leave you the amoxicillin take a couple more tonight
19:23look look i know
19:26you're good friends with shane and paul i know you're having a hard time right now
19:32i wish you weren't having it alone go easy on yourself okay
19:36understand that something terrible has happened to you too
19:44try to give yourself a little grace
19:52uh wait uh uh please wait
20:01and you're what again the guidance counselor school counselor
20:05what kind of backgrounds is a school counselor supposed to have in this kind of thing
20:09well i'm actually a licensed independent clinical social worker
20:13but i'm working towards getting licensed in rhode island as a clinical mental health counselor
20:19and what makes you think my son needs your help
20:23yeah i'm not saying it has to be me
20:27but
20:30from the amount of detail oliver gave me about his present headspace
20:35and what led to it
20:37he's gonna need therapy from someone
20:40and what amount of detail would that be exactly
20:45clinically
20:47enough
20:49enough for what
20:53it's enough to know what really happened
20:57every time i think there's nothing left that can surprise me
21:01i'll put you in touch with my personal accountant
21:14mom
21:16yeah
21:21do you want tea
21:25no
21:33i understand
21:34this
21:36may be weird at first
21:40it's okay
21:40you do this too
21:42you know you see people
21:43outside of school
21:45my real life goal was
21:47always this
21:49so
21:50i'm your first
21:52patient
21:53yeah
21:54kind of are
21:58don't you have to be able to
22:00come clean
22:03tell the truth you know
22:06be honest
22:08what are you saying you haven't been honest with me
22:12you didn't tell me the truth
22:15of course i have yes i did
22:18okay then
22:21it's gonna work
22:22hey it's already working
22:31it's gonna work
22:32oh
22:33oh
22:33oh
22:33oh
22:33oh
22:34oh
22:36oh
22:36Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
23:06Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
23:20Hey, Shiloh, you want to meet us at the crib?
23:23No, I can't. Do a shooter for me.
23:29Hello?
23:30Hey, McGaggy.
23:31Hi, Shai.
23:33Hello?
23:34It's not Shane, Mom.
23:36Don't tie up the phone.
23:39She just talked to him yesterday, didn't she?
23:41They're not going to let him call her again today.
23:43I don't. She knows what day it is.
23:46When are you coming home?
23:4820 minutes.
23:49I'm leaving work right now.
23:50Just do us all a favor and stay out of her way, okay?
23:55Okay.
23:59We're all packed.
24:01You travel Tuesday, right?
24:03Boy, orientation's probably going to be pretty hectic.
24:08A lot of new people, new living situation.
24:16What?
24:17What are you thinking right now?
24:21That you were right.
24:23That I might not be ready right now to go to Stanford.
24:33That I can't.
24:36Have you talked about any of this with your dad?
24:43No.
24:49Well, you need to, Ollie.
24:54Call him and tell him.
24:59I can't.
25:01You want me to do it?
25:05Please.
25:05Yes.
25:07Okay.
25:11Oliver St. Ledger, he dropped my brother off at our house in his car.
25:15Are you aware Mr. St. Ledger says he did not see your brother after school until Shane came to his
25:20house after midnight?
25:22Yes, I am, but it's not true.
25:23What the hell are you doing?
25:25Are you playing at trial or something?
25:28Is it supposed to be funny?
25:30No.
25:30Because it isn't.
25:32I know.
25:33I did see him.
25:36Shane didn't come right home after practice.
25:38He didn't come home until later.
25:39And when he did, I saw him.
25:43I saw him getting out of Oliver's car.
25:45I can't believe you're doing this right now.
25:46I cannot believe you can't see how wrong it is for you to do this right now.
25:51It's not like that.
25:52It's really true.
25:53It's never like that.
25:54Right?
25:56Like when your teacher kicked you.
25:58Like when the woman in the stop and shop tried to kidnap you.
26:00It's never about you wanting attention.
26:02It's always true.
26:03The jury is deciding right now, Megan.
26:07Remember?
26:08They're all sitting in a room talking about whether they're going to send your brother to prison for life.
26:18Now I'm sorry that we are all so terrified of that, that we can't put our attention on you.
26:23I'm sorry that this is the worst fucking thing that's ever happened in the world and you still have to
26:28make it about you.
26:41The people of the state of Rhode Island versus Shane Martin.
26:45Verdict, count one, voluntary manslaughter.
26:49We the jury find the defendant guilty.
27:07Six minutes, 11 seconds, actually.
27:12Very good for my age, huh?
27:14For anybody's age.
27:17What were you last time you were in the pool?
27:20Uh, 3.17.
27:22The fuck?
27:23You're going backwards now.
27:26Are you even practicing?
27:29I'm not really sleeping lately.
27:37Since the verdict.
27:40I get it.
27:42All the more reason to stay disciplined.
27:45Here's the thing, practice, you have to do it every day.
27:49You're staying on it, right?
27:51Grow your capacity.
27:52Your number grows, that's like anything.
27:55Just keep at it.
27:57Let me know.
27:58No.
28:06Sometimes I just feel like I have to call Shane, but that's stupid because you can't call, so...
28:12No, you can't call.
28:15I try to go see him.
28:17To be put on his visitors list or whatever.
28:24When, um, when did you do this?
28:28I don't know, a month ago.
28:31They said he said no.
28:34Oh, well.
28:37That's understandable too, though, right?
28:42If he said yes, would, uh...
28:45And so I try to write it in a, in a letter.
28:51I am disappointed.
28:53It didn't feel like this was something you could talk over with me first.
28:57It felt like I could, I could start with, with this.
29:04Uh, but then, but then I felt like if I send it, is he even going to open it?
29:14And if he doesn't open it, then maybe sending it at all is still the point.
29:20I, I don't, I, I don't know.
29:23Okay.
29:24Okay, what about this?
29:27Shane knows me from school.
29:30What if I have to be put on his visitors list?
29:33You know, I, I, I don't say why.
29:36But I take that with me.
29:39And I read it.
29:42Out loud.
29:43And whatever happens next is up to him.
29:55I'm just sorry I couldn't make myself do it before.
30:00And I know it won't make me a good person to do the right thing now, but still.
30:06I'm going to fix everything.
30:10I promise.
30:17You look a little...
30:19Yeah, my food's pretty bad here.
30:21Yeah.
30:21They serve it at weird times, whatever.
30:25I don't know why I didn't think you'd actually come.
30:27I don't know why it took me so long to ask.
30:30I mean, we didn't ever talk all that much in school, so.
30:33Oof.
30:34I'm sorry.
30:34I'm not saying that for, like, blame.
30:35No, I, I know you're not.
30:36I, it just doesn't reflect very well on me, though.
30:41So, can I ask how you are?
30:48I'm so sorry about all of this.
30:51It's just, it's really terrible.
30:54Yeah.
30:55Yeah, it's pretty terrible.
30:56Yeah.
31:00In full disclosure, and I know I should have said this up front when I first asked to come see
31:04you.
31:05Are you going to try and write a book or something?
31:07Oh.
31:09Uh, no.
31:13I'm working with Oliver.
31:18Working with him how?
31:19Just counseling him as his therapist.
31:24So you're with him, then?
31:26Yeah, I wouldn't let him in, so he sent you?
31:29No.
31:32Although, obviously, that's a very logical first question to ask.
31:35What does he need therapy for, huh?
31:38Does he feel bad for what he did?
31:40Actually, yeah, he does.
31:41Which part?
31:43Killing Paul?
31:44Killing me?
31:47I understand.
31:48It must feel unbelievable.
31:51What must?
31:52I don't know.
31:53I don't know how the world is still turning like you were never even in it.
32:03Like all I am is this thing I didn't do, you mean?
32:08All because I was stupid and tried to help my friend?
32:12Do you guys talk about that?
32:14In your little fucking therapy sessions?
32:17What he did to me for trying to help him?
32:19Because if anything else, you're just another person getting paid to listen to him lie.
32:27Shane, it doesn't matter what Oliver's told me.
32:30My job isn't to judge what the truth is.
32:33And I wouldn't be in charge of anything, even if it was.
32:37It's more that his pain has made me think about yours.
32:42And how I just, I can't imagine what you're going through.
32:46Or the strength I know you'll need to find.
32:49For what?
32:51I have strength.
32:52I know you do.
32:53See, I remember that about you.
32:55Like you said, we didn't talk much, but still I could tell.
32:57You had character.
32:58You had character, integrity, that those things matter to you.
33:10Just, before I came to Bridgefield, I was a social worker.
33:14This was in Connecticut.
33:16And a lot of my clients were in your situation.
33:19With public defenders who were no match for white shoes.
33:22And?
33:23One of my clients.
33:26Dawn.
33:27Uh, her husband was doing 15 to life in McDougal.
33:32Dave had a carpet laying business with his cousin.
33:35And the cousin had a shady side thing where a guy ended up getting killed over money.
33:39And the cousin took a plea saying it was all Dave.
33:45And Dave just thought, he didn't do it.
33:48And that would prevail.
33:52He did not stop his frustration and rage from getting him into situations that just added more years to his
33:58sentence.
34:00Or how to live.
34:01Knowing he was only in prison in the first place off a lie from someone he trusted.
34:08And compared to you, he was lucky.
34:14He wasn't up against people with enough money to make the world exactly the way they want it.
34:25So what happened to Dave?
34:28Is he still in prison?
34:31No.
34:33And when did he get paroled?
34:39He did.
34:39I mean, I'm not going to go into details, if it's okay, just out of respect.
34:47I'm just never, never going to forget that phone call.
34:54There was one tiny silver lining.
34:57Craziest, that is to say.
34:59Dave's family didn't think so, but I know Dave would have.
35:03It's something called the doctrine of abatement.
35:07Look, if you're convicted at trial, even for murder, and you die in prison before all your appeals are exhausted,
35:12your conviction's automatically set aside and your indictment is dismissed like it never even happened.
35:20When he died, because he died, as far as law and the world were concerned, Dave was an innocent man.
35:33Hey, finally no line at the vending machines.
35:35I'm going to get a soda.
35:37You want one?
35:57No, no, no, they must have, Mom, okay, they wouldn't just say this is the person they're calling, okay?
36:01They said this is ACI calling, and we're sorry to...
36:04Okay, but that doesn't make any sense, Mom, okay, so are they going to call us back?
36:07He wouldn't do that to himself.
36:08He wouldn't do it to me.
36:09He would never do that.
36:11Okay, I'm going to call them, and I'm going to find out who called us, okay?
36:17It's terrible.
36:19It's a terrible thing.
36:20It's hard to even think about the kind of desperation behind a choice like Dad.
36:26Makes you think about all your own choices in life, right?
36:30All the things you've done or haven't done.
36:38Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you know the Navy SEALs use this thing to help them calm down?
36:44They're just crazy, right?
36:45These elite warriors, they train and they practice, and still, they panic.
36:49Even Navy SEALs have to make themselves remember to breathe.
36:52Okay, okay.
36:53In for four, hold for four, out for four, hold for four.
36:57It's called box breathing.
36:59Box has four sides.
37:00You just focus on the numbers and the sides, and that's it.
37:03Four by four.
37:04Do it with me.
37:04Come on.
37:05Let's build a box together right now.
37:11One, two, three.
37:30Hi.
37:32Do we have a...
37:33What the fuck did you say to my brother?
37:35Excuse me?
37:36Show up out of nowhere, get in his mind, say who the fuck knows what, until suddenly he thinks
37:40he has no way out of...
37:41Oh, my God.
37:45Can I just...
37:47Look, I was so sorry when I heard what happened.
37:50Why were you even there, hmm?
37:52You didn't exist for Shane at school, and I know that.
37:54He never mentioned you once.
37:55To be fair, seeing the counselor is not always going to be something the student talks about
38:01at home, right?
38:02You're telling me he fucking came to see you?
38:05HIPAA requirements say I can't tell you anything.
38:08I'm sorry.
38:10But whether he did or didn't, with the student body of 600 kids, being generally aware of
38:16all of them, and their various struggles, yeah, that was my job.
38:24Why'd you go to the prison?
38:26To offer my support.
38:28No, I want to know what kind of apocalyptic shit you said to him.
38:31Besides that fucking Oliver St. Leger sees you for therapy, which is...
38:35I just don't really know how to wrap my mind around that, actually.
38:37So he told you that, but he didn't tell you what else we talked about?
38:39Okay, he's figuring things out.
38:40He's taking fucking classes, and then here you are, and a month later, he kills himself.
38:47And you think talking to me had something to do with that?
38:51I do.
38:51And I think I have a lot of questions that I'm going to ask to whoever's responsible
38:55for you having a license to talk to anybody, okay?
38:57So just know that's what's going to be happening.
39:00Well, then maybe also ask them if they think someone without a baseline of mental instability
39:03and a history of emotional detachment of the home can be goaded into suicide
39:07by one casual conversation with a sympathetic relative stranger.
39:14Oh, this is such an awful thing.
39:17Look, I understand needing to explain it away somehow,
39:22but when an already mentally vulnerable person is put into such a challenging environment
39:28at an age where they're still struggling with coping skills
39:31and with the idea that the future even exists,
39:35not to mention a support system at home that just isn't up to the task in a real...
39:48So, as soon as court opens tomorrow,
39:51I'm going to file a temporary ex parte order of protection against you.
39:55And just to make it final...
39:57Fuck you!
39:57Okay.
40:11Did Mom go to sleep?
40:14She went to her room.
40:15Sure, she's not sleeping.
40:17Nobody sleeps in this house.
40:18Obviously.
40:29Okay.
40:30Talk show.
40:31Old movie.
40:32Infomercial.
40:33Where do you think Shane is now?
40:36Shit.
40:38I'm going to need a drink or ten for that conversation.
40:41Megan, I don't want to talk about heaven or whatever, okay?
40:45Because you don't think he is...
40:46If there is a place he is,
40:48I hope that everything makes sense to him.
40:51That he doesn't hurt anymore.
40:53Okay?
40:55Me too.
40:57Also, I wish there was a place like that for Mom to go.
41:03Yeah, I mean, Mom's still alive, but I get what you're saying.
41:16Mom and Dad went to Holy Spirit Purse Bingo, and he was supposed to come home after practice and make
41:22dinner.
41:23But he didn't.
41:26So I made it.
41:28And I saw him get dropped off by a car that I saw.
41:36Whose car it was.
41:41Okay, well, did Shane know this?
41:43Yes.
41:44When?
41:46Right when he came inside.
41:47Okay, what did he say?
41:49He said he was home the whole time.
41:50And he never asked you to say anything later to anybody, ever?
41:56He thought he would.
41:59He was waiting, but he never did.
42:05Why did he want me to?
42:09You know what?
42:09Maybe he was afraid.
42:13Yeah.
42:14Of you bringing Oliver into it.
42:16Of Oliver's family.
42:18Of what they might do to us, to you.
42:20I mean, who knows?
42:23With people who can be...
42:24what they are.
42:27You feel guilty for not saying...
42:32don't.
42:34Okay?
42:36It wouldn't have made any difference.
42:38It still would have all happened the exact same way,
42:41and you couldn't have stopped it.
42:42So please, please,
42:45don't let it derail your life.
42:49Okay?
43:21Ms. Martin?
43:23One of them.
43:26Which one are you?
43:29Shiloh.
43:30Is your mom Christy? Is she here, too?
43:32She's not here at the moment.
43:34You live here with her.
43:36Rub it in, why don't you?
43:39So, you're Shane's sister.
43:41Hey, can I ask a question?
43:43Yes, we are here to ask people questions
43:45about a guy named Oliver St. Ledger.
43:48Specifically about the possible revenge killing
43:51of a guy named Oliver St. Ledger.
43:53We spoke to Annette Sparling.
43:54She gave us your address.
43:56Does your sister live here, too?
43:58Megan or Ciara Wise?
44:00Which one do you call her?
44:04Look, I don't know where Megan lives.
44:06Okay?
44:07I don't even know where she is.
44:11Or if she's ever coming back.
44:37I've just been sitting here watching you breathe.
44:42You're Megan.
44:45You're Shane's sister.
44:49Yeah.
44:56The day that Paul Sparling died,
45:00I saw you.
45:03And I knew that you were lying.
45:08But I was no one
45:09compared to you and your family.
45:15And there was nothing that I could do.
45:20And it just kept spinning out of control
45:23my whole life.
45:25Even so many years later,
45:27spinning out of control.
45:29And I wanted to hurt you.
45:33I really, really wanted to hurt you.
45:38And so I made a plan.
45:43But then I started to know you.
45:46And I saw
45:48how lonely you were.
45:52That I didn't need to do anything
45:53to ruin your life
45:54because you were doing that on your own.
46:02I really wanted to tell you the truth.
46:06I had so many opportunities
46:08to tell you the truth
46:09and I didn't.
46:18I'm sorry.
46:24I am sorry.
46:25He was my best friend.
46:28And your brother,
46:29he didn't deserve that.
46:34Your brother didn't do anything.
46:36It was me.
46:41I know that.
46:45But I knew that.
46:51Thank you for saying that.
46:53Because I think I really needed
46:56you to say that to me.
47:05And I'm so in love with you.
47:09I'm so in love with you.
47:11Yeah.
47:11Yeah.
47:18Yeah.
47:39I can't say that I am surprised that you're a Tom Petty fan, but if I hear another Tom
47:43Petty song in the next million years, it'll be too fuckin' soon.
47:46When was Tom Petty bothering you, when I was driving and you were sleeping, or when I was
47:51driving and you were sleeping?
47:56So do we think Meghan Martin, slash Sierra Wise, is somewhere in the world with or without
48:05Oliver Kennedy?
48:06Yeah, we don't know that.
48:08I said we think, not we know, but you do agree that that's the first road we should go down
48:15to that.
48:15Okay, yeah, it's the first road, but it's not the only one.
48:25Come on.
48:27Come on.
49:00Come on.
49:04Come on.
49:08Come on.
49:10Good love is hard to find.
49:14Good love is hard to find.
49:18You got lucky things, you got lucky things when I found you.
49:35You put a hand on my cheek
49:39And then you turn your eyes away
49:43And it don't feel complete
49:48If I don't take you on the way
49:51It's cold, yeah, it's cold
49:58Remember, but in love it's hard to find
50:04But in love it's hard to find
50:08You got lucky, babe
50:11You got lucky, babe
50:14When I found you
50:22You got lucky, babe
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